Gangster in the WH
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It would be great if you had the ability to compete. Successful Americans in California do. Sad.SFGbob said:
He doesn't care. He has his talking points and he'll repeat them as many times as he has to.Doogles said:
They are STEALING the innovation part and skipping to the producing and winning. It's not that hard to understand.CirrhosisDawg said:
Good points. David Ricardo had it right though. Highly skilled and competitive US labor will beat China every single time. A tariff regime defeats our advantage and reduces us to the level of mercantilists and protectionists. We are better off innovating, leading, producing and winning. The alternative is to reduce ourselves to the lowest common denominator of trumptardism.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that we historically have these notions that inventors and innovators should get paid for doing so. The Chinese don't. In fact, per Marxist doctrine IP is all property of the state anyways. This is why China can't innovate shit. So they steal it from everyone else. Pretending it's not a problem with some defense of free markets is kind of disingenuous. Doubly so when they have actual detention camps with slave labor all over XinJiang and Tibet.CirrhosisDawg said:
Again, I’m sorry you don’t have the skills or capabilities to compete. It’s not a problem in capital markets. We win. Sounds like you’ve made a lot of poor life decisions Bob.SFGbob said:
No answer but lots of mouth. Huawei, the Chinese tech company is currently the world’s biggest supplier of telecom network equipment and the number two cellphone producer. They had $100 Billion in revenue last year and they've been stealing from us for over decade. Gosh and CD the ignorant Kunt claimed that California was eating China's lunch. I "get" that you have nothing but your ignorant mouth.CirrhosisDawg said:
Can you read? I told you skilled and educated Americans in California eat the Chinese for lunch every day. Better product. Better service. Better skills. That’s why you don’t get it. That’s why you are a failure. So sorry for you.SFGbob said:Both parties but especially the Rats starting with Clinton have been bending over for the Chi Coms. They've been stealing us blind for years now and we have done nothing. CD is just a fucking crank with no answers and a raft of strawman ass fucks. No one is claiming that tariffs equal free trade or any of the other laundry list of crap he cites. Ask him what should be done about China IP theft and you'll get another one of his sweet Kunt acts. The guy has nothing.
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Doogles said:
They are STEALING the innovation part and skipping to the producing and winning. It's not that hard to understand.CirrhosisDawg said:
Good points. David Ricardo had it right though. Highly skilled and competitive US labor will beat China every single time. A tariff regime defeats our advantage and reduces us to the level of mercantilists and protectionists. We are better off innovating, leading, producing and winning. The alternative is to reduce ourselves to the lowest common denominator of trumptardism.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that we historically have these notions that inventors and innovators should get paid for doing so. The Chinese don't. In fact, per Marxist doctrine IP is all property of the state anyways. This is why China can't innovate shit. So they steal it from everyone else. Pretending it's not a problem with some defense of free markets is kind of disingenuous. Doubly so when they have actual detention camps with slave labor all over XinJiang and Tibet.CirrhosisDawg said:
Again, I’m sorry you don’t have the skills or capabilities to compete. It’s not a problem in capital markets. We win. Sounds like you’ve made a lot of poor life decisions Bob.SFGbob said:
No answer but lots of mouth. Huawei, the Chinese tech company is currently the world’s biggest supplier of telecom network equipment and the number two cellphone producer. They had $100 Billion in revenue last year and they've been stealing from us for over decade. Gosh and CD the ignorant Kunt claimed that California was eating China's lunch. I "get" that you have nothing but your ignorant mouth.CirrhosisDawg said:
Can you read? I told you skilled and educated Americans in California eat the Chinese for lunch every day. Better product. Better service. Better skills. That’s why you don’t get it. That’s why you are a failure. So sorry for you.SFGbob said:Both parties but especially the Rats starting with Clinton have been bending over for the Chi Coms. They've been stealing us blind for years now and we have done nothing. CD is just a fucking crank with no answers and a raft of strawman ass fucks. No one is claiming that tariffs equal free trade or any of the other laundry list of crap he cites. Ask him what should be done about China IP theft and you'll get another one of his sweet Kunt acts. The guy has nothing.
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CirrhosisDawg said:
Can you read? I told you skilled and educated Americans in California eat the Chinese for lunch every day. Better product. Better service. Better skills. That’s why you don’t get it. That’s why you are a failure. So sorry for you.SFGbob said:Both parties but especially the Rats starting with Clinton have been bending over for the Chi Coms. They've been stealing us blind for years now and we have done nothing. CD is just a fucking crank with no answers and a raft of strawman ass fucks. No one is claiming that tariffs equal free trade or any of the other laundry list of crap he cites. Ask him what should be done about China IP theft and you'll get another one of his sweet Kunt acts. The guy has nothing.
You sound like Michael Dukakis, aka Alfred E. Newman, with your generic "good jobs at good wages" trope.
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In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that. -
Go easy on poor little Cirrho. He's in Finance. His hands have never touched an honest days work.SFGbob said:
No answer but lots of mouth. Huawei, the Chinese tech company is currently the world’s biggest supplier of telecom network equipment and the number two cellphone producer. They had $100 Billion in revenue last year and they've been stealing from us for over decade. Gosh and CD the ignorant Kunt claimed that California was eating China's lunch. I "get" that you have nothing but your ignorant mouth.CirrhosisDawg said:
Can you read? I told you skilled and educated Americans in California eat the Chinese for lunch every day. Better product. Better service. Better skills. That’s why you don’t get it. That’s why you are a failure. So sorry for you.SFGbob said:Both parties but especially the Rats starting with Clinton have been bending over for the Chi Coms. They've been stealing us blind for years now and we have done nothing. CD is just a fucking crank with no answers and a raft of strawman ass fucks. No one is claiming that tariffs equal free trade or any of the other laundry list of crap he cites. Ask him what should be done about China IP theft and you'll get another one of his sweet Kunt acts. The guy has nothing.
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ThudBomberFS supports tax increases, lower growth, lower income, and decreased wealth for poor-ass trumptards because of China. Of course he does.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that. -
You wouldn't last a day in business Cirrho. Don't lose your job. You need it like Oxygen.CirrhosisDawg said:
ThudBomberFS supports tax increases, lower growth, lower income, and decreased wealth for poor-ass trumptards because of China. Of course he does.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that. -
So then he'd be okay with it if the Chinese came in and stole the money out of his accounts.TurdBomber said:
Go easy on poor little Cirrho. He's in Finance. His hands have never touched an honest days work.SFGbob said:
No answer but lots of mouth. Huawei, the Chinese tech company is currently the world’s biggest supplier of telecom network equipment and the number two cellphone producer. They had $100 Billion in revenue last year and they've been stealing from us for over decade. Gosh and CD the ignorant Kunt claimed that California was eating China's lunch. I "get" that you have nothing but your ignorant mouth.CirrhosisDawg said:
Can you read? I told you skilled and educated Americans in California eat the Chinese for lunch every day. Better product. Better service. Better skills. That’s why you don’t get it. That’s why you are a failure. So sorry for you.SFGbob said:Both parties but especially the Rats starting with Clinton have been bending over for the Chi Coms. They've been stealing us blind for years now and we have done nothing. CD is just a fucking crank with no answers and a raft of strawman ass fucks. No one is claiming that tariffs equal free trade or any of the other laundry list of crap he cites. Ask him what should be done about China IP theft and you'll get another one of his sweet Kunt acts. The guy has nothing.
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Then I would punish them by paying 25 pct more on consumer goods i purchase. What else can we do?!?1!SFGbob said:
So then he'd be okay with it if the Chinese came in and stole the money out of his accounts.TurdBomber said:
Go easy on poor little Cirrho. He's in Finance. His hands have never touched an honest days work.SFGbob said:
No answer but lots of mouth. Huawei, the Chinese tech company is currently the world’s biggest supplier of telecom network equipment and the number two cellphone producer. They had $100 Billion in revenue last year and they've been stealing from us for over decade. Gosh and CD the ignorant Kunt claimed that California was eating China's lunch. I "get" that you have nothing but your ignorant mouth.CirrhosisDawg said:
Can you read? I told you skilled and educated Americans in California eat the Chinese for lunch every day. Better product. Better service. Better skills. That’s why you don’t get it. That’s why you are a failure. So sorry for you.SFGbob said:Both parties but especially the Rats starting with Clinton have been bending over for the Chi Coms. They've been stealing us blind for years now and we have done nothing. CD is just a fucking crank with no answers and a raft of strawman ass fucks. No one is claiming that tariffs equal free trade or any of the other laundry list of crap he cites. Ask him what should be done about China IP theft and you'll get another one of his sweet Kunt acts. The guy has nothing.
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Appears you can bend over and take like a bitch CD, you seem really good at that.CirrhosisDawg said:
Then I would punish them by paying 25 pct more on consumer goods i purchase. What else can we do?!?1!SFGbob said:
So then he'd be okay with it if the Chinese came in and stole the money out of his accounts.TurdBomber said:
Go easy on poor little Cirrho. He's in Finance. His hands have never touched an honest days work.SFGbob said:
No answer but lots of mouth. Huawei, the Chinese tech company is currently the world’s biggest supplier of telecom network equipment and the number two cellphone producer. They had $100 Billion in revenue last year and they've been stealing from us for over decade. Gosh and CD the ignorant Kunt claimed that California was eating China's lunch. I "get" that you have nothing but your ignorant mouth.CirrhosisDawg said:
Can you read? I told you skilled and educated Americans in California eat the Chinese for lunch every day. Better product. Better service. Better skills. That’s why you don’t get it. That’s why you are a failure. So sorry for you.SFGbob said:Both parties but especially the Rats starting with Clinton have been bending over for the Chi Coms. They've been stealing us blind for years now and we have done nothing. CD is just a fucking crank with no answers and a raft of strawman ass fucks. No one is claiming that tariffs equal free trade or any of the other laundry list of crap he cites. Ask him what should be done about China IP theft and you'll get another one of his sweet Kunt acts. The guy has nothing.
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There’s the white flag.SFGbob said:
Appears you can bend over and take like a bitch CD, you seem really good at that.CirrhosisDawg said:
Then I would punish them by paying 25 pct more on consumer goods i purchase. What else can we do?!?1!SFGbob said:
So then he'd be okay with it if the Chinese came in and stole the money out of his accounts.TurdBomber said:
Go easy on poor little Cirrho. He's in Finance. His hands have never touched an honest days work.SFGbob said:
No answer but lots of mouth. Huawei, the Chinese tech company is currently the world’s biggest supplier of telecom network equipment and the number two cellphone producer. They had $100 Billion in revenue last year and they've been stealing from us for over decade. Gosh and CD the ignorant Kunt claimed that California was eating China's lunch. I "get" that you have nothing but your ignorant mouth.CirrhosisDawg said:
Can you read? I told you skilled and educated Americans in California eat the Chinese for lunch every day. Better product. Better service. Better skills. That’s why you don’t get it. That’s why you are a failure. So sorry for you.SFGbob said:Both parties but especially the Rats starting with Clinton have been bending over for the Chi Coms. They've been stealing us blind for years now and we have done nothing. CD is just a fucking crank with no answers and a raft of strawman ass fucks. No one is claiming that tariffs equal free trade or any of the other laundry list of crap he cites. Ask him what should be done about China IP theft and you'll get another one of his sweet Kunt acts. The guy has nothing.
And he probably works for his Father-In-Law.
More of the kunt act.
Your kunt is sore.
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Bleeding heart progressives should be demanding a quarantine of all Nations that utilize child slave labor in the global economy.
I spend 200 bucks on sneakers that cost 5 bucks to make. Surely there is some wiggle room here. -
Jfc. @UW_Doog_Bot clean up on aisle 1.Doogles said:Bleeding heart progressives should be demanding a quarantine of all Nations that utilize child slave labor in the global economy.
I spend 200 bucks on sneakers that cost 5 bucks to make. Surely there is some wiggle room here.
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In summation:CirrhosisDawg said:
Jfc. @UW_Doog_Bot clean up on aisle 1.Doogles said:Bleeding heart progressives should be demanding a quarantine of all Nations that utilize child slave labor in the global economy.
I spend 200 bucks on sneakers that cost 5 bucks to make. Surely there is some wiggle room here.
I apologize since you’ve already addressed this once today. You are very good at explaining markets and micro economics.
The Right: Free markets work best! Except internationally, we need to control international markets.
The Left: Free markets work best! Except domestically, we need to control domestic markets.
Doog_Bot: *sigh*
I'd Pinochet the lot of you if I didn't believe in the universality of human rights. -
Anyone that thinks one dogmatic thought applies in THIS economy is fooling themselves
There are no free markets so accusing people of a lack of ideological purity on the matter is a waste of time.
I root for the USA. Unabashedly.
Why would I want us to be Chi Coms or Eurotrash? If you do that's fine, the democrats will take your vote. So will H's intellectual conservative Never Trumpers
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Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet. -
Jimminy Christmas - what have I done?! 76 replies and all I wanted to do was post a severed horse head gif for @creepycoug
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From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!! -
[The document was riddled with reversals by China that undermined core U.S. demands, the sources told Reuters.
In each of the seven chapters of the draft trade deal, China had deleted its commitments to change laws to resolve core complaints that caused the United States to launch a trade war: Theft of U.S. intellectual property and trade secrets; forced technology transfers; competition policy; access to financial services; and currency manipulation.]
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If you can't trust a Communist who can you trust?
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TrumpRaceBannon said:If you can't trust a Communist who can you trust?
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NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue. -
Trump understands that the the US government exists to protect and support the US people and industry, not actively work to undermine manufacturing base like they have the past 30 years.RaceBannon said:Anyone that thinks one dogmatic thought applies in THIS economy is fooling themselves
There are no free markets so accusing people of a lack of ideological purity on the matter is a waste of time.
I root for the USA. Unabashedly.
Why would I want us to be Chi Coms or Eurotrash? If you do that's fine, the democrats will take your vote. So will H's intellectual conservative Never Trumpers
Its why we have elections -
Why so angry benny?BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
This carpet layer destroyed every argument you made
What do you mean not from China when that's where you get your cheap shit. It doesn't matter if you follow rules here once you destroy the environment there
WE ONLY HAVE 12 YEARS TO LIVE
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I'm a black belt and have run programs in India and China. Sure, it's a bitch to change over but how do you think those suppliers ended up in China in the first place? They weren't there 20-30 years ago.BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue. -
BennyBeaver said:
Either way it will cost us billions.SFGbob said:
Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.YellowSnow said:Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.
I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.
My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.
We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.
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So wait you're a 6' tall former rugby player with a black belt? I'm glad I've never tried to fight you in real life.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm a black belt and have run programs in India and China. Sure, it's a bitch to change over but how do you think those suppliers ended up in China in the first place? They weren't there 20-30 years ago.BennyBeaver said:
NO NOT FROM CHINA YOU FUCKING BELLEND.RaceBannon said:
From China? laughing Bolton gifBennyBeaver said:
Thank you Captain Obvious.TurdBomber said:
In all seriousness, it sounds like you're a tool, then. Diversify your sourcing, stop being a tool and make yourself less dependent and vulnerable to tariffs, if you can. We all gotta tighten our belts sometimes.BennyBeaver said:
I’m not advocating for any other policy, just illustrating the effects tariffs are having on my industry, and in turn the 🇺🇸 consumer.UW_Doog_Bot said:Benny, how would you address these problems with China alternatively though? The simple fact is that they need our market a lot more than we need theirs. Supply chains are already moving away from China as cheap labor dries up and as the population begins to age. Vietnam, India, etc. Opening our markets to them(which once upon a time I believed in) has failed to do anything other than create a neo-facist almost super power in the world.
Sorry not sorry, a little short term pain for American consumers is a small price to pay to avoid a world dominated by the CCP. It's definitely preferable to world war 3 nuclear bugaloo. Happy to hear the alternative method to bring the CCP to heel that's better. Convince me and I'll advocate for that.
Resourcing is not like flipping a switch, not when you are beholden to safety and quality standards. Dual sourcing has it's benefits but also detriments, like not maximizing your purchasing power.
Either way, the tariffs will hit you in the wallet.
That shitty air that has us only having 12 years to live is a direct result of companies closing their eyes to how the shit they buy from China is made
But AMERICA pulled out of the Paris Accords!!!!!!!!
Do you have any idea what ISO or QS or IATF means? Rhetorical question. Carpet layers would have not clue.
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We? You sound super important being able to post on an message board arguing with strangers all day and what not.BennyBeaver said:
This is just such a dim, myopic view of how goods are manufactured in a global economy.RaceBannon said:
Assuming they want to by the crap you import from ChinaBennyBeaver said:
Either way it will cost us billions.SFGbob said:
Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.YellowSnow said:Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.
I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.
My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.
We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.
I guess white trash needs those cheap knock off stolen goods, right @CirrhosisDawg ?
Be a better business man and stop relying on crap to make a buck
Our products are made of components sourced from all over the world, including the good ol' USA. Our products/services are recognized as the technological and quality gold standard in the industry, are in high demand and never the cheapest alternative.
We hold a dominant market position of #1 or #2 in almost every product line we produce in every region.
So, we will continue to source components from the best cost country in the short and medium term and pass the 25% tariff on to our customers. As such, the tariff will get passed on to you Mr. Race Bannon in the form of higher prices, because everything you touch in your daily life in the past, present and future will have to utilize our products.
