Gangster in the WH

UW_Doog_Bot said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

Both parties but especially the Rats starting with Clinton have been bending over for the Chi Coms. They've been stealing us blind for years now and we have done nothing. CD is just a fucking crank with no answers and a raft of strawman ass fucks. No one is claiming that tariffs equal free trade or any of the other laundry list of crap he cites. Ask him what should be done about China IP theft and you'll get another one of his sweet Kunt acts. The guy has nothing.

Can you read? I told you skilled and educated Americans in California eat the Chinese for lunch every day. Better product. Better service. Better skills. That’s why you don’t get it. That’s why you are a failure. So sorry for you.

No answer but lots of mouth. Huawei, the Chinese tech company is currently the world’s biggest supplier of telecom network equipment and the number two cellphone producer. They had $100 Billion in revenue last year and they've been stealing from us for over decade. Gosh and CD the ignorant Kunt claimed that California was eating China's lunch. I "get" that you have nothing but your ignorant mouth.

Again, I’m sorry you don’t have the skills or capabilities to compete. It’s not a problem in capital markets. We win. Sounds like you’ve made a lot of poor life decisions Bob.

Except that we historically have these notions that inventors and innovators should get paid for doing so. The Chinese don't. In fact, per Marxist doctrine IP is all property of the state anyways. This is why China can't innovate shit. So they steal it from everyone else. Pretending it's not a problem with some defense of free markets is kind of disingenuous. Doubly so when they have actual detention camps with slave labor all over XinJiang and Tibet.

CirrhosisDawg said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

Both parties but especially the Rats starting with Clinton have been bending over for the Chi Coms. They've been stealing us blind for years now and we have done nothing. CD is just a fucking crank with no answers and a raft of strawman ass fucks. No one is claiming that tariffs equal free trade or any of the other laundry list of crap he cites. Ask him what should be done about China IP theft and you'll get another one of his sweet Kunt acts. The guy has nothing.

Can you read? I told you skilled and educated Americans in California eat the Chinese for lunch every day. Better product. Better service. Better skills. That’s why you don’t get it. That’s why you are a failure. So sorry for you.

No answer but lots of mouth. Huawei, the Chinese tech company is currently the world’s biggest supplier of telecom network equipment and the number two cellphone producer. They had $100 Billion in revenue last year and they've been stealing from us for over decade. Gosh and CD the ignorant Kunt claimed that California was eating China's lunch. I "get" that you have nothing but your ignorant mouth.

Again, I’m sorry you don’t have the skills or capabilities to compete. It’s not a problem in capital markets. We win. Sounds like you’ve made a lot of poor life decisions Bob.

Except that we historically have these notions that inventors and innovators should get paid for doing so. The Chinese don't. In fact, per Marxist doctrine IP is all property of the state anyways. This is why China can't innovate shit. So they steal it from everyone else. Pretending it's not a problem with some defense of free markets is kind of disingenuous. Doubly so when they have actual detention camps with slave labor all over XinJiang and Tibet.

Good points. David Ricardo had it right though. Highly skilled and competitive US labor will beat China every single time. A tariff regime defeats our advantage and reduces us to the level of mercantilists and protectionists. We are better off innovating, leading, producing and winning. The alternative is to reduce ourselves to the lowest common denominator of trumptardism.
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CirrhosisDawg said:

TurdBomber said:

BennyBeaver said:

RaceBannon said:

BennyBeaver said:

SFGbob said:

YellowSnow said:

Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.

I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.

Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.

Either way it will cost us billions.

My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.

We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.

Assuming they want to by the crap you import from China

I guess white trash needs those cheap knock off stolen goods, right @CirrhosisDawg ?

Be a better business man and stop relying on crap to make a buck

This is just such a dim, myopic view of how goods are manufactured in a global economy.

Our products are made of components sourced from all over the world, including the good ol' USA. Our products/services are recognized as the technological and quality gold standard in the industry, are in high demand and never the cheapest alternative.

We hold a dominant market position of #1 or #2 in almost every product line we produce in every region.

So, we will continue to source components from the best cost country in the short and medium term and pass the 25% tariff on to our customers. As such, the tariff will get passed on to you Mr. Race Bannon in the form of higher prices, because everything you touch in your daily life in the past, present and future will have to utilize our products.

I love this global/corporatist bullshit where people like BennieBrainwashed pretend that they care more about my prices being low instead of the exploding profit they make, when something like MacBooks are made in China vs California. The price didn't move an inch, but the profit increased five-fold when manufacturing moved off-shore.

It's all about profit, not quality or low prices, dumbass.

@UW_Doog_Bot do you want to reply to this retard about micro economics? I’m happy to do so myself but you do a good job explaining how supply-demand dynamics clear markets.

BennyBeaver said:

TurdBomber said:

BennyBeaver said:

RaceBannon said:

BennyBeaver said:

SFGbob said:

YellowSnow said:

Who knows if the new TUFF on China approach will work or not. But we do know that the old approach wasn't.

I like free trade with allies and frens. Maybe China just doesn't want to be our fren.

Something had to be done. Ignoring the problem wasn't working. China's theft of US intellectual property was costing us billions.

Either way it will cost us billions.

My company is being hit with the tariffs. Guess what? In the short-medium term, we aren't going to resource components away from the suppliers. Nope. That takes time and $.

We will pass the tariff along to our customer, who in turn will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to their customer, who will pass it along to the citizens of the US in the form of higher prices.

Assuming they want to by the crap you import from China

I guess white trash needs those cheap knock off stolen goods, right @CirrhosisDawg ?

Be a better business man and stop relying on crap to make a buck

This is just such a dim, myopic view of how goods are manufactured in a global economy.

Our products are made of components sourced from all over the world, including the good ol' USA. Our products/services are recognized as the technological and quality gold standard in the industry, are in high demand and never the cheapest alternative.

We hold a dominant market position of #1 or #2 in almost every product line we produce in every region.

So, we will continue to source components from the best cost country in the short and medium term and pass the 25% tariff on to our customers. As such, the tariff will get passed on to you Mr. Race Bannon in the form of higher prices, because everything you touch in your daily life in the past, present and future will have to utilize our products.

I love this global/corporatist bullshit where people like BennieBrainwashed pretend that they care more about my prices being low instead of the exploding profit they make, when something like MacBooks are made in China vs California. The price didn't move an inch, but the profit increased five-fold when manufacturing moved off-shore.

It's all about profit, not quality or low prices, dumbass.

Please stop misrepresenting my words, I'm simply illustrating the effect that tariffs will have.

It's all about profit, that's why we're in business. Therefore, when our costs are increased by 25% by an act we cannot control, we will pass that along to our customers, so we can maintain our profitability. In turn, your costs will increase on everything you touch. Everything.

The other option to avoid the tariffs, is to move more of our production to Mexico. This means the loss of high paying, Union jerbs here in the good ol' USA. This trade policy is just expediting these business decisions.