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"OKG" is racist according to Oregon

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  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    edited April 2019
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    I don't think Pete is a racist. But it's like saying 'i don't think Pete actually wants his dog to bit people' - if the dog bites people and Pete explains it away every time as a product of unique circumstances, you have to be like 'does Pete REALLY want the dog not to bite people if he's not doing anything to prevent it?'

    Yeah, there may be an issue of bias and you didn’t throw the racist term around but more referring to the negative recruiting. Btw, I heard it was a player saying this and not the staff at Oregon. That was the insinuation at 247, I was told.
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  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,255
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    lawsandl said:

    I am a Duck fan and this is part and parcel of the “everything is racist” cultural milieu.

    That's because you're white and see things through the white people lens.

    Oh, we just happened to not recruit Tre'Shaun (Sav'ell's friend) and we are just happening to not recruit Gee Scott and DJ Rodgers (insert white people 'case by case basis' excuse here). And now Justin Flowe, Kayvon and Darnell Washington are all guys that haven't really been on our radar.

    And, under Pete we have gotten one white parent or African parents on almost everyone... white people are like 'this is nitpicky' because they don't understand how stupid that sounds to people who live in black culture (which is not a monolith). This is like a little kid thinking that them saying they didn't eat a cookie when chocolate chips are all over their face is convincing.

    White people are like 'HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF RACISM' and black people are like 'uh, look around'.

    I don't think Pete is a racist, but I think Pete defines OKG in such a way that it so heavily slants toward slow strategy 'at least one white or African' parent, private school light skin u kids.

    If you don't understand the difference between Kevin King's household and Aaron Fuller's or Ariel Ngata's then you just aren't really familiar with modern black life in America on any level.
    This. It’s similar to how coach k only used to recruit kids with 2 parents (2 dads ?!)
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    Meek said:

    so, are you guys saying that Smalls avoided coming to UW this weekend because he's now drifting (drifted?) away from being interested in UW?

    I see that Emeka was tweeting from Oregon this weekend as well.



    How bad is this situation fellas?

    Well, it's not GOOD.
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    lawsandl said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    I don't think Pete is a racist. But it's like saying 'i don't think Pete actually wants his dog to bit people' - if the dog bites people and Pete explains it away every time as a product of unique circumstances, you have to be like 'does Pete REALLY want the dog not to bite people if he's not doing anything to prevent it?'

    Yeah, there may be an issue of bias and you didn’t throw the racist term around but more referring to the negative recruiting. Btw, I heard it was a player saying this and not the staff at Oregon. That was the insinuation at 247, I was told.
    I actually heard from a relatively reliable source that it was a concerted effort by the staff. I don't know specifically who.

    But honestly, the data is damning. So, it's an easy point to make. If I were Oregon, the first fucking thing I would say to Sav'ell's parents is - 'we know you want your son to play close to home. How about playing somewhere that isn't using him up and doesn't respect him or his culture? Almost all players on UW have one white parent and usually the white parent was dominant in acculturating the kids. It's a white washed program. Here, we don't think there's anything wrong with being black, and we aren't trying to turn Sav'ell into a white guy.'
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  • huskyhooligan
    huskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,035 Swaye's Wigwam


    We've kinda come so far!
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  • genzhusky
    genzhusky Member Posts: 7
    OKG system is basically asking for yes men and there is no room for overt individuality or personalities who can disrupt the system. It just so happens that this OKG mantra does not extend to a specific demographic. So like its not straight up racism, but you can argue that the system disadvantages or discriminates against the recruitment of African Americans. I'm not saying that I believe this but in today's PC culture everything is racist and it's honestly really easy to make the argument that OKG is racist. Personally I don't care how they act as long as they can ball but as long as Pete is the coach, his OKG system will stay in some capacity.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,242
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    Meek said:

    so, are you guys saying that Smalls avoided coming to UW this weekend because he's now drifting (drifted?) away from being interested in UW?

    I see that Emeka was tweeting from Oregon this weekend as well.



    How bad is this situation fellas?

    Well, it's not GOOD.
    There's obviously work that needs to be done to blow the narrative that others are trying to advance out of the water.

    As big of an issue to me is the fact that during Spring Ball we largely go off the radar when it comes to really being front and center with recruits. We essentially allow other programs to run around unchecked during this period and it leaves us with work to do afterwards. The cost/benefit of this is for a different discussion.

    Point being that there's work that needs to be done ... and possibly more work than normal.

    It's quite obvious at this point that Oregon will do just about anything to try to tear us down. Negative recruiting in the end is generally a losing strategy and comes from a position of weakness. But UW does need to be aware of what is going on around them. It's one thing to focus on yourself and do what you do better than others. But on the other end, you got to understand what your competitors are doing around you. That's why there is that whole keep your friends close and enemies closer.
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