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  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    Lers confirmed in twitter space, time to doog out

    Who the fuck is Lers
  • RealRhino
    RealRhino Member Posts: 615
    Spoadie! Oh my god, I feel like the adults in "It" who had kinda forgot all about that demonic clown and suddenly it all comes rushing back!

    But also, who the fuck is Donte Williams? Has he ever actually coached anybody that could play? You'll pardon me if I don't doog out about becoming USC of the last 10 years, signing great recruits and watching them turn into 5th-round draft picks. I remember Bill Simmons's basketball book wherein he argued that if a guy considered great was really so great, why was he fucking traded? Same question: if having Donte Williams is so great, why can't he seem to stay on a staff for more than a year or two? Arizona, 1 year. Nebraska, 1 yr. Oregon, 2 yrs. All in the same role. USC, 2 years. And don't tell he left because he was getting better offers. If he was so great, the school would've paid what it took to keep him.

    Bill Parcells, the smartest man of our age, said it best: don't tell me about the labor, show me the baby.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    Lers confirmed in twitter space, time to doog out

    Who the fuck is Lers
    typo sadly
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    RealRhino said:

    Spoadie! Oh my god, I feel like the adults in "It" who had kinda forgot all about that demonic clown and suddenly it all comes rushing back!

    But also, who the fuck is Donte Williams? Has he ever actually coached anybody that could play? You'll pardon me if I don't doog out about becoming USC of the last 10 years, signing great recruits and watching them turn into 5th-round draft picks. I remember Bill Simmons's basketball book wherein he argued that if a guy considered great was really so great, why was he fucking traded? Same question: if having Donte Williams is so great, why can't he seem to stay on a staff for more than a year or two? Arizona, 1 year. Nebraska, 1 yr. Oregon, 2 yrs. All in the same role. USC, 2 years. And don't tell he left because he was getting better offers. If he was so great, the school would've paid what it took to keep him.

    Bill Parcells, the smartest man of our age, said it best: don't tell me about the labor, show me the baby.

    Ok. Would you rather have Will Harris or Bob Gregory on staff?
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    Lers confirmed in twitter space, time to doog out

    Who the fuck is Lers
    typo sadly
    eh, Lars doesn't know shit. I hate to admit it but the Dawgman mods are actually pretty dialed in when it comes to news within the UW AD. It's the recruiting side where they're clueless cause the coaches feed them bad info and no recruits want to talk to them.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327
    RealRhino said:

    Spoadie! Oh my god, I feel like the adults in "It" who had kinda forgot all about that demonic clown and suddenly it all comes rushing back!

    But also, who the fuck is Donte Williams? Has he ever actually coached anybody that could play? You'll pardon me if I don't doog out about becoming USC of the last 10 years, signing great recruits and watching them turn into 5th-round draft picks. I remember Bill Simmons's basketball book wherein he argued that if a guy considered great was really so great, why was he fucking traded? Same question: if having Donte Williams is so great, why can't he seem to stay on a staff for more than a year or two? Arizona, 1 year. Nebraska, 1 yr. Oregon, 2 yrs. All in the same role. USC, 2 years. And don't tell he left because he was getting better offers. If he was so great, the school would've paid what it took to keep him.

    Bill Parcells, the smartest man of our age, said it best: don't tell me about the labor, show me the baby.

    He left for a better situation each time up to usc. We are the downgrade in his career. Hth.

    And he lands big time players. That is the significance. There may be a thread or two out there with all the details but I haven’t checked.
  • RealRhino
    RealRhino Member Posts: 615
    What I see is Will Harris is putting out two CBs that will get picked In the first two days of the NFL draft, while all Dante Williams is putting out feelers and resumes. So yes, at this point I’d take Harris.

    And you’re telling me that leaving Oregon after a RB to go to the sinking USS Helton is a step up? Ok.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam
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    RealRhino said:

    What I see is Will Harris is putting out two CBs that will get picked In the first two days of the NFL draft, while all Dante Williams is putting out feelers and resumes. So yes, at this point I’d take Harris.

    And you’re telling me that leaving Oregon after a RB to go to the sinking USS Helton is a step up? Ok.

    Williams raises questions for sure, however Harris is shit at recruiting and it will show in a big way next season.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327
    RealRhino said:

    What I see is Will Harris is putting out two CBs that will get picked In the first two days of the NFL draft, while all Dante Williams is putting out feelers and resumes. So yes, at this point I’d take Harris.

    And you’re telling me that leaving Oregon after a RB to go to the sinking USS Helton is a step up? Ok.

    One of the worst takes I have seen. Harris is worthless. Provides no value to the program. Does he even coach the corners? He had been focusing on then safeties prior. Our safeties have been worthless for multiple years now.
  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457

    RealRhino said:

    What I see is Will Harris is putting out two CBs that will get picked In the first two days of the NFL draft, while all Dante Williams is putting out feelers and resumes. So yes, at this point I’d take Harris.

    And you’re telling me that leaving Oregon after a RB to go to the sinking USS Helton is a step up? Ok.

    One of the worst takes I have seen. Harris is worthless. Provides no value to the program. Does he even coach the corners? He had been focusing on then safeties prior. Our safeties have been worthless for multiple years now.
    Yeah, if he sucks at crootin’ and can’t corch, uhh what good is he exactly?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    chuck said:

    Swaye said:

    By popular demand, unless Stalin nukes it and me, the ONT! We can gab about leopard print jackets, smokers voices, awkward hugs, underage coaches daughters, and maybe even The Haen Train (ask Julie she knows what's up).



    If you were to put a thought bubble above DeBoer here based on Cohen's personality and his expression, what would it say? I would go with something like "I think this goofy chick might actually want a piece of my deboner".
    You guys going to KEG House later? I guess Deboner’s got a sweet fuckin’ spoadie.


    Spoadie, lullzzzzzz. Top 3 drunk, in a bad way, came from a spoadie at a UW marching band party. Shoutout @MelloDawg .
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,843

    chuck said:

    Swaye said:

    By popular demand, unless Stalin nukes it and me, the ONT! We can gab about leopard print jackets, smokers voices, awkward hugs, underage coaches daughters, and maybe even The Haen Train (ask Julie she knows what's up).



    If you were to put a thought bubble above DeBoer here based on Cohen's personality and his expression, what would it say? I would go with something like "I think this goofy chick might actually want a piece of my deboner".
    You guys going to KEG House later? I guess Deboner’s got a sweet fuckin’ spoadie.


    Spoadie, lullzzzzzz. Top 3 drunk, in a bad way, came from a spoadie at a UW marching band party. Shoutout @MelloDawg .
    Was I there? If they were also doing tubes of nitrous, then perhaps I was.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    MelloDawg said:

    chuck said:

    Swaye said:

    By popular demand, unless Stalin nukes it and me, the ONT! We can gab about leopard print jackets, smokers voices, awkward hugs, underage coaches daughters, and maybe even The Haen Train (ask Julie she knows what's up).



    If you were to put a thought bubble above DeBoer here based on Cohen's personality and his expression, what would it say? I would go with something like "I think this goofy chick might actually want a piece of my deboner".
    You guys going to KEG House later? I guess Deboner’s got a sweet fuckin’ spoadie.


    Spoadie, lullzzzzzz. Top 3 drunk, in a bad way, came from a spoadie at a UW marching band party. Shoutout @MelloDawg .
    Was I there? If they were also doing tubes of nitrous, then perhaps I was.
    This was... spring break tim of 1994. I think.
  • PurpleReign
    PurpleReign Member Posts: 5,479
    Do we have any spies in the field right now?
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    my sources say Haener and Cropper are BOTH portaling here. Donte Williams is also coming here and may bring a few USC decommits with him.

    Source?
  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457

    my sources say Haener and Cropper are BOTH portaling here. Donte Williams is also coming here and may bring a few USC decommits with him.

    It’s bullshit until it isn’t.
  • RealRhino
    RealRhino Member Posts: 615

    RealRhino said:

    What I see is Will Harris is putting out two CBs that will get picked In the first two days of the NFL draft, while all Dante Williams is putting out feelers and resumes. So yes, at this point I’d take Harris.

    And you’re telling me that leaving Oregon after a RB to go to the sinking USS Helton is a step up? Ok.

    One of the worst takes I have seen. Harris is worthless. Provides no value to the program. Does he even coach the corners? He had been focusing on then safeties prior. Our safeties have been worthless for multiple years now.
    This is what people that stroke it to TBSing say. It's the same thing I heard about Strausser at OL. Tell me, is our OL better now than it was in 2016? It was what I heard about Babushka. Tell me, is our QB play and offense better now than it was when he was here? It was what I heard about Brent Pease at WR. Tell me, is our WR play better now than when Dante and Ross were here?

    Recruiting means fuck all if you can't fucking coach. The performance on the field isn't just what matters most, it's ALL that matters. And none of Donte Williams's corners have performed.

  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327
    RealRhino said:

    RealRhino said:

    What I see is Will Harris is putting out two CBs that will get picked In the first two days of the NFL draft, while all Dante Williams is putting out feelers and resumes. So yes, at this point I’d take Harris.

    And you’re telling me that leaving Oregon after a RB to go to the sinking USS Helton is a step up? Ok.

    One of the worst takes I have seen. Harris is worthless. Provides no value to the program. Does he even coach the corners? He had been focusing on then safeties prior. Our safeties have been worthless for multiple years now.
    This is what people that stroke it to TBSing say. It's the same thing I heard about Strausser at OL. Tell me, is our OL better now than it was in 2016? It was what I heard about Babushka. Tell me, is our QB play and offense better now than it was when he was here? It was what I heard about Brent Pease at WR. Tell me, is our WR play better now than when Dante and Ross were here?

    Recruiting means fuck all if you can't fucking coach. The performance on the field isn't just what matters most, it's ALL that matters. And none of Donte Williams's corners have performed.

    You’re so lost.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    RealRhino said:

    RealRhino said:

    What I see is Will Harris is putting out two CBs that will get picked In the first two days of the NFL draft, while all Dante Williams is putting out feelers and resumes. So yes, at this point I’d take Harris.

    And you’re telling me that leaving Oregon after a RB to go to the sinking USS Helton is a step up? Ok.

    One of the worst takes I have seen. Harris is worthless. Provides no value to the program. Does he even coach the corners? He had been focusing on then safeties prior. Our safeties have been worthless for multiple years now.
    This is what people that stroke it to TBSing say. It's the same thing I heard about Strausser at OL. Tell me, is our OL better now than it was in 2016? It was what I heard about Babushka. Tell me, is our QB play and offense better now than it was when he was here? It was what I heard about Brent Pease at WR. Tell me, is our WR play better now than when Dante and Ross were here?

    Recruiting means fuck all if you can't fucking coach. The performance on the field isn't just what matters most, it's ALL that matters. And none of Donte Williams's corners have performed.

    Nice false equivalences dude. You aren't as smart as you think.
  • RealRhino
    RealRhino Member Posts: 615

    RealRhino said:

    RealRhino said:

    What I see is Will Harris is putting out two CBs that will get picked In the first two days of the NFL draft, while all Dante Williams is putting out feelers and resumes. So yes, at this point I’d take Harris.

    And you’re telling me that leaving Oregon after a RB to go to the sinking USS Helton is a step up? Ok.

    One of the worst takes I have seen. Harris is worthless. Provides no value to the program. Does he even coach the corners? He had been focusing on then safeties prior. Our safeties have been worthless for multiple years now.
    This is what people that stroke it to TBSing say. It's the same thing I heard about Strausser at OL. Tell me, is our OL better now than it was in 2016? It was what I heard about Babushka. Tell me, is our QB play and offense better now than it was when he was here? It was what I heard about Brent Pease at WR. Tell me, is our WR play better now than when Dante and Ross were here?

    Recruiting means fuck all if you can't fucking coach. The performance on the field isn't just what matters most, it's ALL that matters. And none of Donte Williams's corners have performed.

    Nice false equivalences dude. You aren't as smart as you think.
    OK. You'll see when our DB play is underwhelming and then some other coach will actually get players to PERFORM and then you'll be saying, "Yeah, but those were Donte's recruits" as if that means shit. As far as I can see he hasn't coached one fucking guy that can play. Show me where I'm wrong.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    RealRhino said:

    RealRhino said:

    RealRhino said:

    What I see is Will Harris is putting out two CBs that will get picked In the first two days of the NFL draft, while all Dante Williams is putting out feelers and resumes. So yes, at this point I’d take Harris.

    And you’re telling me that leaving Oregon after a RB to go to the sinking USS Helton is a step up? Ok.

    One of the worst takes I have seen. Harris is worthless. Provides no value to the program. Does he even coach the corners? He had been focusing on then safeties prior. Our safeties have been worthless for multiple years now.
    This is what people that stroke it to TBSing say. It's the same thing I heard about Strausser at OL. Tell me, is our OL better now than it was in 2016? It was what I heard about Babushka. Tell me, is our QB play and offense better now than it was when he was here? It was what I heard about Brent Pease at WR. Tell me, is our WR play better now than when Dante and Ross were here?

    Recruiting means fuck all if you can't fucking coach. The performance on the field isn't just what matters most, it's ALL that matters. And none of Donte Williams's corners have performed.

    Nice false equivalences dude. You aren't as smart as you think.
    OK. You'll see when our DB play is underwhelming and then some other coach will actually get players to PERFORM and then you'll be saying, "Yeah, but those were Donte's recruits" as if that means shit. As far as I can see he hasn't coached one fucking guy that can play. Show me where I'm wrong.
    You can have 2 DB coaches. They're giving him a bullshit CO-DC for that reason to recruit and do nothing else hth
  • sinceredawg
    sinceredawg Member Posts: 834

    RealRhino said:

    RealRhino said:

    RealRhino said:

    What I see is Will Harris is putting out two CBs that will get picked In the first two days of the NFL draft, while all Dante Williams is putting out feelers and resumes. So yes, at this point I’d take Harris.

    And you’re telling me that leaving Oregon after a RB to go to the sinking USS Helton is a step up? Ok.

    One of the worst takes I have seen. Harris is worthless. Provides no value to the program. Does he even coach the corners? He had been focusing on then safeties prior. Our safeties have been worthless for multiple years now.
    This is what people that stroke it to TBSing say. It's the same thing I heard about Strausser at OL. Tell me, is our OL better now than it was in 2016? It was what I heard about Babushka. Tell me, is our QB play and offense better now than it was when he was here? It was what I heard about Brent Pease at WR. Tell me, is our WR play better now than when Dante and Ross were here?

    Recruiting means fuck all if you can't fucking coach. The performance on the field isn't just what matters most, it's ALL that matters. And none of Donte Williams's corners have performed.

    Nice false equivalences dude. You aren't as smart as you think.
    OK. You'll see when our DB play is underwhelming and then some other coach will actually get players to PERFORM and then you'll be saying, "Yeah, but those were Donte's recruits" as if that means shit. As far as I can see he hasn't coached one fucking guy that can play. Show me where I'm wrong.
    News alert. Our db play is likely to suck next year because our three most highly recruited players are all leaving the secondary and we have Jack shit behind them to replace them.

    Safety play has been an abortion for years. McDuffie has been our best cb since setting foot on campus as a true freshmen so don’t tell me Harris developed him.

    It’s not all about getting the most highly recruited guys. It’s about getting the guys you want with physical traits and developing them. None of these guys below look like Dbs
    For a top 25 program.

    Williams. Hasn’t developed.
    Irvin. Hasn’t developed
    Hampton hasn’t developed. And doesn’t play even when he is the only fucking safety to hit someone over the past two years.
    Turner hasn’t developed and is the worst uw safety of my lifetime.
    Fabuclanananan. Nothing.

    Powell probably next man up and may be okay.
    Mckinnie who admittedly sucked in coverage at us found a home at Utah and started a bunch of games and looked like a Pac12 safety for the conference champs.

    We have gone from highly recruited guys waiting in the wings chomping at the bit like Taylor and Murphy to take over Jack shit.

    Look deeper. I want williams because he lands guys at all positions (not just db) and is amazing at getting guys onboard. He needs an additional db expert on staff most likely as there are 5 on the field at a time. Harris is not that guy. Doesn’t land players nor does he develop guys.

    Well articulated. I'm on this side. Harris hasn't developed shit. Death to Will Harris.
  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,552 Swaye's Wigwam

    RealRhino said:

    RealRhino said:

    RealRhino said:

    What I see is Will Harris is putting out two CBs that will get picked In the first two days of the NFL draft, while all Dante Williams is putting out feelers and resumes. So yes, at this point I’d take Harris.

    And you’re telling me that leaving Oregon after a RB to go to the sinking USS Helton is a step up? Ok.

    One of the worst takes I have seen. Harris is worthless. Provides no value to the program. Does he even coach the corners? He had been focusing on then safeties prior. Our safeties have been worthless for multiple years now.
    This is what people that stroke it to TBSing say. It's the same thing I heard about Strausser at OL. Tell me, is our OL better now than it was in 2016? It was what I heard about Babushka. Tell me, is our QB play and offense better now than it was when he was here? It was what I heard about Brent Pease at WR. Tell me, is our WR play better now than when Dante and Ross were here?

    Recruiting means fuck all if you can't fucking coach. The performance on the field isn't just what matters most, it's ALL that matters. And none of Donte Williams's corners have performed.

    Nice false equivalences dude. You aren't as smart as you think.
    OK. You'll see when our DB play is underwhelming and then some other coach will actually get players to PERFORM and then you'll be saying, "Yeah, but those were Donte's recruits" as if that means shit. As far as I can see he hasn't coached one fucking guy that can play. Show me where I'm wrong.
    You can have 2 DB coaches. They're giving him a bullshit CO-DC for that reason to recruit and do nothing else hth
    If they pay him as much/more than the other D coaches just to recruit and be a figurehead on the field (especially the CB/Safeties coaches) how will that play in the coaches room?
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327
    godawgst said:

    RealRhino said:

    RealRhino said:

    RealRhino said:

    What I see is Will Harris is putting out two CBs that will get picked In the first two days of the NFL draft, while all Dante Williams is putting out feelers and resumes. So yes, at this point I’d take Harris.

    And you’re telling me that leaving Oregon after a RB to go to the sinking USS Helton is a step up? Ok.

    One of the worst takes I have seen. Harris is worthless. Provides no value to the program. Does he even coach the corners? He had been focusing on then safeties prior. Our safeties have been worthless for multiple years now.
    This is what people that stroke it to TBSing say. It's the same thing I heard about Strausser at OL. Tell me, is our OL better now than it was in 2016? It was what I heard about Babushka. Tell me, is our QB play and offense better now than it was when he was here? It was what I heard about Brent Pease at WR. Tell me, is our WR play better now than when Dante and Ross were here?

    Recruiting means fuck all if you can't fucking coach. The performance on the field isn't just what matters most, it's ALL that matters. And none of Donte Williams's corners have performed.

    Nice false equivalences dude. You aren't as smart as you think.
    OK. You'll see when our DB play is underwhelming and then some other coach will actually get players to PERFORM and then you'll be saying, "Yeah, but those were Donte's recruits" as if that means shit. As far as I can see he hasn't coached one fucking guy that can play. Show me where I'm wrong.
    You can have 2 DB coaches. They're giving him a bullshit CO-DC for that reason to recruit and do nothing else hth
    If they pay him as much/more than the other D coaches just to recruit and be a figurehead on the field (especially the CB/Safeties coaches) how will that play in the coaches room?
    Hopefully it would motivate them. Kwat didn’t have his massive assistant salary because he was a recruiting machine. It’s because for a time he was so good at what he did it made him hard to replace. Different people on the staff are expected to be have different strengths and weaknesses. Perform and get paid. Or don’t.
  • PasadenaHuskyFan
    PasadenaHuskyFan Member Posts: 611
    TheHB said:

    my sources say Haener and Cropper are BOTH portaling here. Donte Williams is also coming here and may bring a few USC decommits with him.

    It’s bullshit until it isn’t.
    It’s happening book it