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Tequilla
Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
Anybody else ready to join the “we’d be better off if he wasn’t at UW” club?
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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145
    Fuck off and LIPO. Jesus.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,673 Founders Club
    But we have a great offensive line and Roberts decommitting wasn't on Huff its on Jimmy

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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Fuck off and LIPO. Jesus.

    You clearly hate the classic case of abundance that was first and right
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    I'm pessimistic but trying to keep an open mind until the end of this season and the next recruiting cycle.

    It’s fair to keep an open mind

    On the field they should be good this year … anything in the 8-4 range sends the alarm bells into a full scale alert of the highest levels

    It’s one thing to me if we got our targets and the stars weren’t where you’d like them

    But we’re seeing significant numbers of decommits AND whiffing on many of our top targets (particularly some that should be layups

    The biggest worry is likely to come when we see heavy attrition in the off-season … that has the chance to topple the house of cards Jimmy is presiding over
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,673 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    These will be hilarious to bump when UW wins the conference this year

    BONEM
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,072
    If I had a dollar for every LIPO post from PGOS I’d be a rich man.

    Well, At least I’d be able to afford some cheap skinny hookers.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,673 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    I'm pessimistic but trying to keep an open mind until the end of this season and the next recruiting cycle.

    It’s fair to keep an open mind

    On the field they should be good this year … anything in the 8-4 range sends the alarm bells into a full scale alert of the highest levels

    It’s one thing to me if we got our targets and the stars weren’t where you’d like them

    But we’re seeing significant numbers of decommits AND whiffing on many of our top targets (particularly some that should be layups

    The biggest worry is likely to come when we see heavy attrition in the off-season … that has the chance to topple the house of cards Jimmy is presiding over
    If they suck this year I will fight my way back off the bandwagon

    I reuse to panic over the future until after the season
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,199 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    These will be hilarious to bump when UW wins the conference this year

    I expect UW to do well this season. That's not the point. Rick in his second season won the Rose Bowl.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990
    We should be decent this year, but Jimmy will need to change if he hopes to have any future here.

    If he doesn't overhaul the entire coaching and recruiting staff come December, then a world could exist...
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,199 Founders Club

    We should be decent this year, but Jimmy will need to change if he hopes to have any future here.

    If he doesn't overhaul the entire coaching and recruiting staff come December, then a world could exist...

    I agree with Teq in that if we go 8-4 this season with this easy schedule, that would be a red alert
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    ntxduck said:

    These will be hilarious to bump when UW wins the conference this year

    And that changes things how?

    If anything that further cements Jimmy and barring a massive change in his approach will just further prolong the likely change

    I doubt Oregon trades that CFP appearance with Helf … you take success when you can get it

    That said, it’s also important to know when to get off that sinking ship
  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,029 Founders Club
    Like many, still holding out judgement until we get into this season, but serious question even though I know UW isn't serious enough about football to do it - do you think blowing things up at the end of the season is possible if things don't go well? If this season isn't a big success what is there to get excited about going forward other than a five-star QB who is a back up? A slow regression might actually be worse than just blowing things up early and at least generating some momentum.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,673 Founders Club

    Like many, still holding out judgement until we get into this season, but serious question even though I know UW isn't serious enough about football to do it - do you think blowing things up at the end of the season is possible if things don't go well? If this season isn't a big success what is there to get excited about going forward other than a five-star QB who is a back up? A slow regression might actually be worse than just blowing things up early and at least generating some momentum.

    Short of a scandal there is no record bad enough to get Jimmy fired after this year. We? all know that but what else is there to talk about?

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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,670 Swaye's Wigwam
    I'm not going to fire a head coach over offseason roster management before he coaches an actual football season.

    I do see where things are headed though. It's impossible not to. We get to watch it play out in slow motion.

    Then again, a really stellar season is possible and then who knows?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,673 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    We are in a stage of denial if we think all it takes to change recruiting momentum is winning on the field

    And you're in denial if you don't think the league and the school took a big hit off the field during covid

    The only way to change the narrative is to change the narrative. USC fans are freaking out too as they should I guess.

    People forget that the last meaningful Husky game was another gutless loss to Oregon in 2019

    Sounds like some of you want Jimmy to fail just so you can say you were right - Hi Kim
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    We are in a stage of denial if we think all it takes to change recruiting momentum is winning on the field

    And you're in denial if you don't think the league and the school took a big hit off the field during covid

    The only way to change the narrative is to change the narrative. USC fans are freaking out too as they should I guess.

    People forget that the last meaningful Husky game was another gutless loss to Oregon in 2019

    Sounds like some of you want Jimmy to fail just so you can say you were right - Hi Kim
    That’s the best you’ve got?

    I don’t even need to untie the gloves for this …

    Have I not said how COVID and the P12 response hurt perception big time? Nope … I said that

    BTW, that’s a big factor on those players good enough to leave the region and go to the SEC or Ohio or Clemson … you won’t find much of me criticizing this staff for failing to land Emeka or JTT … they didn’t help themselves with either but those battles were long lost

    I’m talking about the fact that there have been more decommits this year than there were under Pete’s tenure

    I’m talking about this staff regularly striking out repeatedly on their top targets

    And if you want to go to this place, I’m talking about Lake effectively pushing K (by all accounts one of the top assistants in the country) out the door to the point he latched on with Sark … who is as far away from OKG as it gets

    Let’s ignore the fact that Oregon has had no problem flipping the switch on recruiting operating on effectively the same set of conditions that UW was over the last 12-18 months

    Let’s ignore the fact that CLAY FUCKING HELTON managed to make some staff changes and see an uptick in recruiting during this period as well

    I don’t want Jimmy to fail … far from it … but he’s setting this program up to return to .500 (or worse) in the next 3-5 years
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    Tequilla said:

    This isn’t what the comments from a leader looks like
    Exactly. Take some fucking ownership instead of blaming the kids. Vorel should have followed up and asked why this never happened under Pete.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    We are in a stage of denial if we think all it takes to change recruiting momentum is winning on the field

    And you're in denial if you don't think the league and the school took a big hit off the field during covid

    The only way to change the narrative is to change the narrative. USC fans are freaking out too as they should I guess.

    People forget that the last meaningful Husky game was another gutless loss to Oregon in 2019

    Sounds like some of you want Jimmy to fail just so you can say you were right - Hi Kim
    Win the Pac-12 and then make some staff changes. That's the only plan I can come up with to get back on track.
    Which is a tough message as it is right?

    How do you position yourself to have a loyal staff going forward if their reward for winning a conference is a pink slip and buyout since the odds of them getting promotions are slim to none for most

    This is what it looks like when you double down on the wrong path over and over
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    His older, much less relatable boss had no problem with decommitments. Quite the opposite actually, and it was a point of pride.