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  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 6,277
    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    ...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

    Narrator: They won't...

    I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

    If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.
    I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

    Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

    There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.
    My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

    The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.
    Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

    Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.
    What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

    All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

    Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

    4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

    Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

    Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

    Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.
    But Washington post of the day

    Petersen took a 7-6 team to the playoffs then back to 8-5

    Meathead has one good season in his fucking career

    Just because the recruiting fan boys love him doesn't change that
    Justin Herbert turned into Mike Vick for a game in that Rose Bowl.

    Oregon won with 200 yards, all coming from Herbert running for his life in a collapsed pocket

    Mario's QB looked amazing last year.

    Lets see what he does without Helfs recruits

    Also...@ Ohio State is going to be a fucking blood. Bath.
    Wasn’t this a Ballz refrain? The 2019 class was a big part of the 2019 season, especially the defense.

    It’s absolutely mind boggling what y’all are telling yourself.
    You and @thechatch should get back to serving coffee and selling vacuum cleaners and fuck off.
    Don’t get emotional, @haie
  • SourcesSources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,004 Founders Club
    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    ...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

    Narrator: They won't...

    I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

    If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.
    I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

    Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

    There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.
    My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

    The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.
    Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

    Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.
    What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

    All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

    Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

    4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

    Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

    Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

    Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.
    But Washington post of the day

    Petersen took a 7-6 team to the playoffs then back to 8-5

    Meathead has one good season in his fucking career

    Just because the recruiting fan boys love him doesn't change that
    Justin Herbert turned into Mike Vick for a game in that Rose Bowl.

    Oregon won with 200 yards, all coming from Herbert running for his life in a collapsed pocket

    Mario's QB looked amazing last year.

    Lets see what he does without Helfs recruits

    Also...@ Ohio State is going to be a fucking blood. Bath.
    Wasn’t this a Ballz refrain? The 2019 class was a big part of the 2019 season, especially the defense.

    It’s absolutely mind boggling what y’all are telling yourself.
    You fucking sucked last year with Marios guy at QB hth.

    Both on offense and defense.
    There was uneven play throughout the entire season for everyone in the league. That’s the data point you’re doing to use? It’s awfully convenient from your POV.

    Oregon replaced it’s top 6 OL, installed a new offense and did so with 3 spring practices, one week of voluntary workouts and an an abbreviated fall camp. That probably explains more than meat being an average coach.
    You lost to Beaver and had a bunch if Iowa State 2 stars run a train on your program hth
    Iowa State is a top 10 team. Stop.
    :D
    They’re on every preseason list as top 10. You’re just smarter than everyone else.
    Indiana all over again.
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,900 Swaye's Wigwam
    thechatch said:

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    ...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

    Narrator: They won't...

    I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

    If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.
    I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

    Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

    There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.
    My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

    The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.
    Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

    Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.
    What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

    All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

    Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

    4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

    Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

    Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

    Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.
    But Washington post of the day

    Petersen took a 7-6 team to the playoffs then back to 8-5

    Meathead has one good season in his fucking career

    Just because the recruiting fan boys love him doesn't change that
    Justin Herbert turned into Mike Vick for a game in that Rose Bowl.

    Oregon won with 200 yards, all coming from Herbert running for his life in a collapsed pocket

    Mario's QB looked amazing last year.

    Lets see what he does without Helfs recruits

    Also...@ Ohio State is going to be a fucking blood. Bath.
    Wasn’t this a Ballz refrain? The 2019 class was a big part of the 2019 season, especially the defense.

    It’s absolutely mind boggling what y’all are telling yourself.
    You and @thechatch should get back to serving coffee and selling vacuum cleaners and fuck off.
    Don’t get emotional, @haie
    This is emotional? You new here? How may vacuum cleaners today? We need that vacation to Bend secured for you little guy!
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    Sources said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    ...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

    Narrator: They won't...

    I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

    If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.
    I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

    Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

    There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.
    My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

    The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.
    Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

    Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.
    What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

    All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

    Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

    4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

    Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

    Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

    Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.
    But Washington post of the day

    Petersen took a 7-6 team to the playoffs then back to 8-5

    Meathead has one good season in his fucking career

    Just because the recruiting fan boys love him doesn't change that
    Justin Herbert turned into Mike Vick for a game in that Rose Bowl.

    Oregon won with 200 yards, all coming from Herbert running for his life in a collapsed pocket

    Mario's QB looked amazing last year.

    Lets see what he does without Helfs recruits

    Also...@ Ohio State is going to be a fucking blood. Bath.
    Wasn’t this a Ballz refrain? The 2019 class was a big part of the 2019 season, especially the defense.

    It’s absolutely mind boggling what y’all are telling yourself.
    You fucking sucked last year with Marios guy at QB hth.

    Both on offense and defense.
    There was uneven play throughout the entire season for everyone in the league. That’s the data point you’re doing to use? It’s awfully convenient from your POV.

    Oregon replaced it’s top 6 OL, installed a new offense and did so with 3 spring practices, one week of voluntary workouts and an an abbreviated fall camp. That probably explains more than meat being an average coach.
    You lost to Beaver and had a bunch if Iowa State 2 stars run a train on your program hth
    Iowa State is a top 10 team. Stop.
    :D
    They’re on every preseason list as top 10. You’re just smarter than everyone else.
    Indiana all over again.
    Wat
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,900 Swaye's Wigwam
    lawsandl said:

    Sources said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    ...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

    Narrator: They won't...

    I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

    If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.
    I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

    Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

    There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.
    My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

    The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.
    Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

    Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.
    What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

    All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

    Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

    4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

    Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

    Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

    Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.
    But Washington post of the day

    Petersen took a 7-6 team to the playoffs then back to 8-5

    Meathead has one good season in his fucking career

    Just because the recruiting fan boys love him doesn't change that
    Justin Herbert turned into Mike Vick for a game in that Rose Bowl.

    Oregon won with 200 yards, all coming from Herbert running for his life in a collapsed pocket

    Mario's QB looked amazing last year.

    Lets see what he does without Helfs recruits

    Also...@ Ohio State is going to be a fucking blood. Bath.
    Wasn’t this a Ballz refrain? The 2019 class was a big part of the 2019 season, especially the defense.

    It’s absolutely mind boggling what y’all are telling yourself.
    You fucking sucked last year with Marios guy at QB hth.

    Both on offense and defense.
    There was uneven play throughout the entire season for everyone in the league. That’s the data point you’re doing to use? It’s awfully convenient from your POV.

    Oregon replaced it’s top 6 OL, installed a new offense and did so with 3 spring practices, one week of voluntary workouts and an an abbreviated fall camp. That probably explains more than meat being an average coach.
    You lost to Beaver and had a bunch if Iowa State 2 stars run a train on your program hth
    Iowa State is a top 10 team. Stop.
    :D
    They’re on every preseason list as top 10. You’re just smarter than everyone else.
    Indiana all over again.
    Wat
    You. My beer.

    @thechatch My vacuum cleaner.

    Now.
  • QuietcowskeeQuietcowskee Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,350 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited August 2021
    Imagine the 2009 Seahawk (7-9) playoff team getting smoked by New Orleans like they were supposed to. Then…for some strange reason, this team’s “12s” immediately talk tons of shit to anyone who will listen.

    Does this sound familiar?

  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,433 Founders Club
    haie said:

    thechatch said:

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    ...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

    Narrator: They won't...

    I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

    If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.
    I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

    Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

    There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.
    My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

    The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.
    Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

    Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.
    What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

    All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

    Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

    4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

    Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

    Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

    Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.
    But Washington post of the day

    Petersen took a 7-6 team to the playoffs then back to 8-5

    Meathead has one good season in his fucking career

    Just because the recruiting fan boys love him doesn't change that
    Justin Herbert turned into Mike Vick for a game in that Rose Bowl.

    Oregon won with 200 yards, all coming from Herbert running for his life in a collapsed pocket

    Mario's QB looked amazing last year.

    Lets see what he does without Helfs recruits

    Also...@ Ohio State is going to be a fucking blood. Bath.
    Wasn’t this a Ballz refrain? The 2019 class was a big part of the 2019 season, especially the defense.

    It’s absolutely mind boggling what y’all are telling yourself.
    You and @thechatch should get back to serving coffee and selling vacuum cleaners and fuck off.
    Don’t get emotional, @haie
    This is emotional? You new here? How may vacuum cleaners today? We need that vacation to Bend secured for you little guy!
    Free Pub!!
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    Imagine the 2009 Seahawk (7-9) playoff team getting smoked by New Orleans like they were supposed to. Then…for some strange reason, this team’s “12s” immediately talk tons of shit to anyone who will listen.

    Does this sound familiar?

    I don’t know. Did the score first half points?
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,056 Swaye's Wigwam
    lawsandl said:

    I’m no Duck apologist not do I know if Christoballz is a good coach or not but here are some facts.

    He’s recruiting at a high level and talent can make up for shitty coaching.

    I don’t hold his record at FIU/FAU whatever U against him. That was basically an expansion team.

    Just like Jimmy, both coaches are in LIPO mode but Christoballz has things trending slightly better due to the recruiting results.

    It can.

    For Oregon it hasn't.

    I kind of see Oregon like Helton's USC... the dude did win a Rose Bowl. But they're not an elite program.
    Cristobal is Helton. Okay. Cristobal is actually respected.
    I hate to say it but nothing brings out the irrational Oregon hate like bad times in Huskyville.
    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    ...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

    Narrator: They won't...

    I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

    If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.
    I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

    Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

    There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.
    My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

    The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.
    Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

    Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.
    What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

    All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

    Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

    4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

    Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

    Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

    Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.
    But Washington post of the day

    Petersen took a 7-6 team to the playoffs then back to 8-5

    Meathead has one good season in his fucking career

    Just because the recruiting fan boys love him doesn't change that
    Justin Herbert turned into Mike Vick for a game in that Rose Bowl.

    Oregon won with 200 yards, all coming from Herbert running for his life in a collapsed pocket

    Mario's QB looked amazing last year.

    Lets see what he does without Helfs recruits

    Also...@ Ohio State is going to be a fucking blood. Bath.
    Wasn’t this a Ballz refrain? The 2019 class was a big part of the 2019 season, especially the defense.

    It’s absolutely mind boggling what y’all are telling yourself.
    You fucking sucked last year with Marios guy at QB hth.

    Both on offense and defense.
    There was uneven play throughout the entire season for everyone in the league. That’s the data point you’re doing to use? It’s awfully convenient from your POV.

    Oregon replaced it’s top 6 OL, installed a new offense and did so with 3 spring practices, one week of voluntary workouts and an an abbreviated fall camp. That probably explains more than meat being an average coach.
    You lost to Beaver and had a bunch if Iowa State 2 stars run a train on your program hth
    Iowa State is a top 10 team. Stop.
    :D
    They’re on every preseason list as top 10. You’re just smarter than everyone else.
    Theyre in the top 10 because they beat a team who lost to Cal and Beav in their last game. Hate to say it, but the mockery is pretty legit.
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    chuck said:

    lawsandl said:

    I’m no Duck apologist not do I know if Christoballz is a good coach or not but here are some facts.

    He’s recruiting at a high level and talent can make up for shitty coaching.

    I don’t hold his record at FIU/FAU whatever U against him. That was basically an expansion team.

    Just like Jimmy, both coaches are in LIPO mode but Christoballz has things trending slightly better due to the recruiting results.

    It can.

    For Oregon it hasn't.

    I kind of see Oregon like Helton's USC... the dude did win a Rose Bowl. But they're not an elite program.
    Cristobal is Helton. Okay. Cristobal is actually respected.
    I hate to say it but nothing brings out the irrational Oregon hate like bad times in Huskyville.
    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    ...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

    Narrator: They won't...

    I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

    If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.
    I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

    Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

    There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.
    My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

    The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.
    Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

    Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.
    What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

    All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

    Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

    4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

    Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

    Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

    Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.
    But Washington post of the day

    Petersen took a 7-6 team to the playoffs then back to 8-5

    Meathead has one good season in his fucking career

    Just because the recruiting fan boys love him doesn't change that
    Justin Herbert turned into Mike Vick for a game in that Rose Bowl.

    Oregon won with 200 yards, all coming from Herbert running for his life in a collapsed pocket

    Mario's QB looked amazing last year.

    Lets see what he does without Helfs recruits

    Also...@ Ohio State is going to be a fucking blood. Bath.
    Wasn’t this a Ballz refrain? The 2019 class was a big part of the 2019 season, especially the defense.

    It’s absolutely mind boggling what y’all are telling yourself.
    You fucking sucked last year with Marios guy at QB hth.

    Both on offense and defense.
    There was uneven play throughout the entire season for everyone in the league. That’s the data point you’re doing to use? It’s awfully convenient from your POV.

    Oregon replaced it’s top 6 OL, installed a new offense and did so with 3 spring practices, one week of voluntary workouts and an an abbreviated fall camp. That probably explains more than meat being an average coach.
    You lost to Beaver and had a bunch if Iowa State 2 stars run a train on your program hth
    Iowa State is a top 10 team. Stop.
    :D
    They’re on every preseason list as top 10. You’re just smarter than everyone else.
    Theyre in the top 10 because they beat a team who lost to Cal and Beav in their last game. Hate to say it, but the mockery is pretty legit.
    UW’s last game was against Stanford aka Bellevue High and ended in a loss. Iowa State also beat Oklahoma.
  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 6,277
    chuck said:

    lawsandl said:

    I’m no Duck apologist not do I know if Christoballz is a good coach or not but here are some facts.

    He’s recruiting at a high level and talent can make up for shitty coaching.

    I don’t hold his record at FIU/FAU whatever U against him. That was basically an expansion team.

    Just like Jimmy, both coaches are in LIPO mode but Christoballz has things trending slightly better due to the recruiting results.

    It can.

    For Oregon it hasn't.

    I kind of see Oregon like Helton's USC... the dude did win a Rose Bowl. But they're not an elite program.
    Cristobal is Helton. Okay. Cristobal is actually respected.
    I hate to say it but nothing brings out the irrational Oregon hate like bad times in Huskyville.
    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    ...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

    Narrator: They won't...

    I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

    If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.
    I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

    Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

    There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.
    My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

    The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.
    Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

    Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.
    What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

    All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

    Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

    4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

    Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

    Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

    Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.
    But Washington post of the day

    Petersen took a 7-6 team to the playoffs then back to 8-5

    Meathead has one good season in his fucking career

    Just because the recruiting fan boys love him doesn't change that
    Justin Herbert turned into Mike Vick for a game in that Rose Bowl.

    Oregon won with 200 yards, all coming from Herbert running for his life in a collapsed pocket

    Mario's QB looked amazing last year.

    Lets see what he does without Helfs recruits

    Also...@ Ohio State is going to be a fucking blood. Bath.
    Wasn’t this a Ballz refrain? The 2019 class was a big part of the 2019 season, especially the defense.

    It’s absolutely mind boggling what y’all are telling yourself.
    You fucking sucked last year with Marios guy at QB hth.

    Both on offense and defense.
    There was uneven play throughout the entire season for everyone in the league. That’s the data point you’re doing to use? It’s awfully convenient from your POV.

    Oregon replaced it’s top 6 OL, installed a new offense and did so with 3 spring practices, one week of voluntary workouts and an an abbreviated fall camp. That probably explains more than meat being an average coach.
    You lost to Beaver and had a bunch if Iowa State 2 stars run a train on your program hth
    Iowa State is a top 10 team. Stop.
    :D
    They’re on every preseason list as top 10. You’re just smarter than everyone else.
    Theyre in the top 10 because they beat a team who lost to Cal and Beav in their last game. Hate to say it, but the mockery is pretty legit.
    Can’t wait for the game in Seattle
  • QuietcowskeeQuietcowskee Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,350 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited August 2021
    lawsandl said:

    chuck said:

    lawsandl said:

    I’m no Duck apologist not do I know if Christoballz is a good coach or not but here are some facts.

    He’s recruiting at a high level and talent can make up for shitty coaching.

    I don’t hold his record at FIU/FAU whatever U against him. That was basically an expansion team.

    Just like Jimmy, both coaches are in LIPO mode but Christoballz has things trending slightly better due to the recruiting results.

    It can.

    For Oregon it hasn't.

    I kind of see Oregon like Helton's USC... the dude did win a Rose Bowl. But they're not an elite program.
    Cristobal is Helton. Okay. Cristobal is actually respected.
    I hate to say it but nothing brings out the irrational Oregon hate like bad times in Huskyville.
    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    ...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

    Narrator: They won't...

    I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

    If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.
    I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

    Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

    There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.
    My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

    The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.
    Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

    Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.
    What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

    All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

    Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

    4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

    Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

    Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

    Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.
    But Washington post of the day

    Petersen took a 7-6 team to the playoffs then back to 8-5

    Meathead has one good season in his fucking career

    Just because the recruiting fan boys love him doesn't change that
    Justin Herbert turned into Mike Vick for a game in that Rose Bowl.

    Oregon won with 200 yards, all coming from Herbert running for his life in a collapsed pocket

    Mario's QB looked amazing last year.

    Lets see what he does without Helfs recruits

    Also...@ Ohio State is going to be a fucking blood. Bath.
    Wasn’t this a Ballz refrain? The 2019 class was a big part of the 2019 season, especially the defense.

    It’s absolutely mind boggling what y’all are telling yourself.
    You fucking sucked last year with Marios guy at QB hth.

    Both on offense and defense.
    There was uneven play throughout the entire season for everyone in the league. That’s the data point you’re doing to use? It’s awfully convenient from your POV.

    Oregon replaced it’s top 6 OL, installed a new offense and did so with 3 spring practices, one week of voluntary workouts and an an abbreviated fall camp. That probably explains more than meat being an average coach.
    You lost to Beaver and had a bunch if Iowa State 2 stars run a train on your program hth
    Iowa State is a top 10 team. Stop.
    :D
    They’re on every preseason list as top 10. You’re just smarter than everyone else.
    Theyre in the top 10 because they beat a team who lost to Cal and Beav in their last game. Hate to say it, but the mockery is pretty legit.
    UW’s last game was against Stanford aka Bellevue High and ended in a loss. Iowa State also beat Oklahoma.
    Yep. Even played Stanford with their good QB!
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    edited August 2021

    lawsandl said:

    chuck said:

    lawsandl said:

    I’m no Duck apologist not do I know if Christoballz is a good coach or not but here are some facts.

    He’s recruiting at a high level and talent can make up for shitty coaching.

    I don’t hold his record at FIU/FAU whatever U against him. That was basically an expansion team.

    Just like Jimmy, both coaches are in LIPO mode but Christoballz has things trending slightly better due to the recruiting results.

    It can.

    For Oregon it hasn't.

    I kind of see Oregon like Helton's USC... the dude did win a Rose Bowl. But they're not an elite program.
    Cristobal is Helton. Okay. Cristobal is actually respected.
    I hate to say it but nothing brings out the irrational Oregon hate like bad times in Huskyville.
    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    ...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

    Narrator: They won't...

    I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

    If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.
    I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

    Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

    There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.
    My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

    The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.
    Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

    Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.
    What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

    All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

    Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

    4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

    Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

    Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

    Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.
    But Washington post of the day

    Petersen took a 7-6 team to the playoffs then back to 8-5

    Meathead has one good season in his fucking career

    Just because the recruiting fan boys love him doesn't change that
    Justin Herbert turned into Mike Vick for a game in that Rose Bowl.

    Oregon won with 200 yards, all coming from Herbert running for his life in a collapsed pocket

    Mario's QB looked amazing last year.

    Lets see what he does without Helfs recruits

    Also...@ Ohio State is going to be a fucking blood. Bath.
    Wasn’t this a Ballz refrain? The 2019 class was a big part of the 2019 season, especially the defense.

    It’s absolutely mind boggling what y’all are telling yourself.
    You fucking sucked last year with Marios guy at QB hth.

    Both on offense and defense.
    There was uneven play throughout the entire season for everyone in the league. That’s the data point you’re doing to use? It’s awfully convenient from your POV.

    Oregon replaced it’s top 6 OL, installed a new offense and did so with 3 spring practices, one week of voluntary workouts and an an abbreviated fall camp. That probably explains more than meat being an average coach.
    You lost to Beaver and had a bunch if Iowa State 2 stars run a train on your program hth
    Iowa State is a top 10 team. Stop.
    :D
    They’re on every preseason list as top 10. You’re just smarter than everyone else.
    Theyre in the top 10 because they beat a team who lost to Cal and Beav in their last game. Hate to say it, but the mockery is pretty legit.
    UW’s last game was against Stanford aka Bellevue High and ended in a loss. Iowa State also beat Oklahoma.
    Yep. Even played Stanford with their good QB!
    Oh. For fuck’s sake.
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,056 Swaye's Wigwam
    lawsandl said:

    chuck said:

    lawsandl said:

    I’m no Duck apologist not do I know if Christoballz is a good coach or not but here are some facts.

    He’s recruiting at a high level and talent can make up for shitty coaching.

    I don’t hold his record at FIU/FAU whatever U against him. That was basically an expansion team.

    Just like Jimmy, both coaches are in LIPO mode but Christoballz has things trending slightly better due to the recruiting results.

    It can.

    For Oregon it hasn't.

    I kind of see Oregon like Helton's USC... the dude did win a Rose Bowl. But they're not an elite program.
    Cristobal is Helton. Okay. Cristobal is actually respected.
    I hate to say it but nothing brings out the irrational Oregon hate like bad times in Huskyville.
    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    ...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

    Narrator: They won't...

    I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

    If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.
    I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

    Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

    There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.
    My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

    The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.
    Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

    Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.
    What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

    All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

    Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

    4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

    Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

    Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

    Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.
    But Washington post of the day

    Petersen took a 7-6 team to the playoffs then back to 8-5

    Meathead has one good season in his fucking career

    Just because the recruiting fan boys love him doesn't change that
    Justin Herbert turned into Mike Vick for a game in that Rose Bowl.

    Oregon won with 200 yards, all coming from Herbert running for his life in a collapsed pocket

    Mario's QB looked amazing last year.

    Lets see what he does without Helfs recruits

    Also...@ Ohio State is going to be a fucking blood. Bath.
    Wasn’t this a Ballz refrain? The 2019 class was a big part of the 2019 season, especially the defense.

    It’s absolutely mind boggling what y’all are telling yourself.
    You fucking sucked last year with Marios guy at QB hth.

    Both on offense and defense.
    There was uneven play throughout the entire season for everyone in the league. That’s the data point you’re doing to use? It’s awfully convenient from your POV.

    Oregon replaced it’s top 6 OL, installed a new offense and did so with 3 spring practices, one week of voluntary workouts and an an abbreviated fall camp. That probably explains more than meat being an average coach.
    You lost to Beaver and had a bunch if Iowa State 2 stars run a train on your program hth
    Iowa State is a top 10 team. Stop.
    :D
    They’re on every preseason list as top 10. You’re just smarter than everyone else.
    Theyre in the top 10 because they beat a team who lost to Cal and Beav in their last game. Hate to say it, but the mockery is pretty legit.
    UW’s last game was against Stanford aka Bellevue High and ended in a loss. Iowa State also beat Oklahoma.
    I'm sorry...was someone talking about UW? Sure wasn't me.

    Gawd you're such a fucking toolbag.
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,233

    There is nothing irrational about hating Oregon

    Irrational is this cult over a lifetime loser like Cristobal because everyone says he's a great recruiter

    Truer words have never been spoken.

  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,056 Swaye's Wigwam

    There is nothing irrational about hating Oregon

    Irrational is this cult over a lifetime loser like Cristobal because everyone says he's a great recruiter

    Hate was a poor choice of words. Agree. I hate em too.

    But...the Oregon obsession grows like a fungus with certain posters everytime things look a little bleak at UW. It's not at embarrassing levels yet, but it feels like that's coming.
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    edited August 2021
    chuck said:

    lawsandl said:

    chuck said:

    lawsandl said:

    I’m no Duck apologist not do I know if Christoballz is a good coach or not but here are some facts.

    He’s recruiting at a high level and talent can make up for shitty coaching.

    I don’t hold his record at FIU/FAU whatever U against him. That was basically an expansion team.

    Just like Jimmy, both coaches are in LIPO mode but Christoballz has things trending slightly better due to the recruiting results.

    It can.

    For Oregon it hasn't.

    I kind of see Oregon like Helton's USC... the dude did win a Rose Bowl. But they're not an elite program.
    Cristobal is Helton. Okay. Cristobal is actually respected.
    I hate to say it but nothing brings out the irrational Oregon hate like bad times in Huskyville.
    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    haie said:

    ...there's no excuse for Washington not to roll.

    Narrator: They won't...

    I'm going to again disagree with everyone about last year's games "not counting." It was football. The better prepared teams with the better gameplans won. I judge a coach based off how well their team performs relative to the talent on hand. That was a for-win roster that struggled HARD to win three. They were real football games that really counted, and it was at best a C- grade from the staff. To me, THAT'S the disturbing trend.

    If winning 11 games, leading to improved recruiting, is your path to optimism, you weren't watching in 2020, when actual, honest to god football was being played. I agree this is probably the most complete overall roster in the conference (linebacker depth aside), which is why I'm going to be so pissed when they lose four or five games.
    I‘d say 50-50 agree/disagree. Covid season games counted, but they also weren’t indicative of what teams and coaching staffs are capable of.

    Both Washington and Oregon had new OCs that were neutered by the lack of install. Rosters were out of shape because the conference didn’t care enough, teams were playing with guys they didn’t want to play. Cale Millen is a real team player, but I would have preferred to not see him being forced to make special team tackles in the conference championship game.

    There’s only so much coaching can do when you don’t have time or players to coach. 2020 gave us some answers but it raised just as many questions.
    My understanding is that UW, at least, got a full allotment of spring and fall practices in. Is this not the case? COVID is such a weird excuse. The Huskies were without two players, neither of whom were projected on the two deep. They had the full team on hand, and they practiced. If the players weren't held accountable for conditioning because COVID, that's a knock on the staff.

    The Huskies played at full strength except for missing Ryan Bowman against Stanford. As president of the Ryan Bowman fan club, I'm comfortable saying that if missing Ryan Bowman is the difference between a win and a loss against a homeless team, your skeaad has problems, and you need to open to fuckin' eyes.
    Oregon got 3/15 spring practices and kids were off campus for all of the offseason schedule except a week of voluntary summer workouts. I have to think it was similar for UW.

    Fall camp was abbreviated too. Oregon missed 1/3 scrimmages due to a false positive covid test. It was a horrible time to install a new offense.
    What have you seen that says Oregon is trending in the right direction?

    All I've seen is Cristobal have one decent season starting mostly Helfrich/Taggert recruits...

    Thibodeaux, Sewell, Wright led defense allowed 28 PPG last year. You're rolling w. a Boston College transfer at QB because your staff ruined Shough.

    4-3 w. a total ass beating by Iowa State. Oof.

    Iowa State vs UW would’ve been the same except zero first half points for UW. Let’s be real. Iowa State was Bellevue High on steroids.

    Also, meat took a 7-6 team to 9-4 and then 12-2. He’s hired up and recruited well.

    Have fun with the season. Morris just overthrew another receiver and the on target throw was dropped. Fingers crossed Otton stays healthy. He goes down and big ooofffff.
    But Washington post of the day

    Petersen took a 7-6 team to the playoffs then back to 8-5

    Meathead has one good season in his fucking career

    Just because the recruiting fan boys love him doesn't change that
    Justin Herbert turned into Mike Vick for a game in that Rose Bowl.

    Oregon won with 200 yards, all coming from Herbert running for his life in a collapsed pocket

    Mario's QB looked amazing last year.

    Lets see what he does without Helfs recruits

    Also...@ Ohio State is going to be a fucking blood. Bath.
    Wasn’t this a Ballz refrain? The 2019 class was a big part of the 2019 season, especially the defense.

    It’s absolutely mind boggling what y’all are telling yourself.
    You fucking sucked last year with Marios guy at QB hth.

    Both on offense and defense.
    There was uneven play throughout the entire season for everyone in the league. That’s the data point you’re doing to use? It’s awfully convenient from your POV.

    Oregon replaced it’s top 6 OL, installed a new offense and did so with 3 spring practices, one week of voluntary workouts and an an abbreviated fall camp. That probably explains more than meat being an average coach.
    You lost to Beaver and had a bunch if Iowa State 2 stars run a train on your program hth
    Iowa State is a top 10 team. Stop.
    :D
    They’re on every preseason list as top 10. You’re just smarter than everyone else.
    Theyre in the top 10 because they beat a team who lost to Cal and Beav in their last game. Hate to say it, but the mockery is pretty legit.
    UW’s last game was against Stanford aka Bellevue High and ended in a loss. Iowa State also beat Oklahoma.
    I'm sorry...was someone talking about UW? Sure wasn't me.

    Gawd you're such a fucking toolbag.
    A toolbag? Oh, shit.
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042

    There is nothing irrational about hating Oregon

    Irrational is this cult over a lifetime loser like Cristobal because everyone says he's a great recruiter

    There is nothing irrational about hating Washington, either, based on the series history.

    Irrational is believing that a great position coach necessarily translates into a great head coach.

    There is no cult re: Meat that I know of.

    He’s 2-0 vs. Washington.

    He’s made decent/good coordinator hires, instead of hiring from within like Helfrich did initially.

    Thankfully, their sub-mediocre OC moved on after Herbert’s senior year and became Head Coach at UNLV.
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