Too bad you guys built an economy where both people in a couple have to work.
Given Tim’s previous comments, blaming feminism for why he can’t get laid, I wouldn’t take much of what he has to say here seriously.
If Dimocrats acted like they did in the 70s, I'd support them.
They don't. They sold out decades ago. Now it's all woke and feminist bullshit and carrying water for China and the one percent. Sad.
The woke shit stays. There’s bullshit like manspreading, science is white supremacy, black people cant be racist, there’s dumb shit for sure. And then you’ve got the libs painting BLM and rainbows on bombs we drop on kids. But one of our biggest concerns class reductionism. We do not believe that all oppression is a byproduct of class so racial justice, lgbtq rights, we’re not leaving those behind.
My experience with the left, and I mean Bernie/AOC and over, is most of the woke shit that gets amplified isn’t what we believe in but some of it is. If that’s a deal breaker, then that’s too bad. But we’ll always have room for you if you change your mind.
I think a lot more people are into stupid shit like manspreading than you think. I've had arguments with "friends" over that stuff. They take it very seriously because their Seattle feminist mommies told them to and how bad men are.
Maybe. At the very least I can say there are people on the left who call that shit stupid. It hasn’t been my experience that a lot of us take it seriously but I could definitely be wrong.
Some do. My main point is a lot of people, especially evil white folks 40-70, are sick of this crap. They see the Dimocrats for what they are. The good ones are purged or pushed to the side. Including myself, I can think of several centrists and center left types who voted for Trump and are just done with them and all their bullshit. Alienating swing voters isn't a good strategy.
1. This belongs on the Finance board. I'll reprise it in slightly shinier wrapping at a later date.
2. My wife stayed home. Can't say if they were better for that reason, or by reason of their superior swarthy genetics (Charles Murray's opinions notwithstanding). I will say this: I have three girls, and they are fucking educated and I have advised them to (1) have a career and (2) live near their mother.
I'll amplify my rationale for #2. First, nobody will take care of those babies better than my wife, and it will be free, and it will free me to go fuck around and do whatever I want because my wife will be blissfully unaware and give no fucks about what I am doing. Second, the odds of marrying an asshole or loser can be greatly reduced based on where you meet him. Both of my girls in serious relationships (one of them is married) met Mr. Wonderful in college. Good. Slightly better odds than in HS or a fucking bar. The third one is dating a guy she met in grad school. Even better. But even with superior breeding and social engineering, there are still decent odds you are going to marry the wrong person. People change, and frankly, nobody really knows anybody until they've seen them react in the trenches.
The problem with this little trip down reactionary lane with you well-intentioned gentlemen is this: the world in which women stayed home was also a world in which they had little power and influence and were beholden to the men in their lives for the basics of food and shelter, much less a "good life." Next to zero autonomy. Creep's kids will be self-sufficient well into the financial zone of wealth building where Eddie Murphy's "Half!!!!!!!" actually means something.
But if you want to raise your daughters with that vulnerability, like the Mormons do, go right ahead. We? won't protest.
So your wife stayed home but its a trip down reactionary lane for others to point out the benefits of it
That weak shit don't fly here
It's heavy shit Boomer. It is, in fact, a trip down reactionary lane because it is a trip down reactionary lane. That it is what it is is not something for which to take issue with me. It's not my trip; I didn't book it.*
I'm just pointing out the downside. A guy your age ought to have piles of anecdotes of women you knew who had to slug it out in a miserable existence at home because it turns out dropping out of the work force for 20 years makes it kinda hard to be on your own economically. You see, I love my kids.
As to the merits, I hear ya. Mrs. Creep stayed home and my kids are damn near perfect. But the next generation of Creepy Super Zips are going to be even more better off. Grandma Creepy will watch the kids during the day, read them Shakespeare and play classical music all day, and when he feels like it, Grampa Creepy will teach them to golf. AND, my daughters will always be in a position to tell their husbands to go fuck off if they ever get fat and/or lazy and/or otherwise not meet our high standards.
*This is why the Finance board would do better with this. We? don't take things so personally. You guys get hysterical any time Kobe the Lib posts anything.
Your motives are pure but others aren't post of the day. If your wife had worked your post would make sense but she stayed home. My wife worked and you're accusing me of what you did. That shit don't fly here. You need a board where no one can question anything because "take it to the tug" if you do.
My mom wanted to go back to work as we got ready to LEAVE the house and my dad divorced her because of it. And I saw first hand how the credit rating went to the guy who worked all those years and she was treated like a teenager. I saw her attorney, the judge and my dad's attorney play golf with my dad many times. I saw how that worked out in the settlement.
Don't tell me anything boy. I was there.
All I said was if its good enough for you its good enough for anyone else here and being reactionary has nothing to do with it
I went through the same thing with my mom Race. Don't boy me ... my mom couldn't have been more hometowned if she tried. She got more fucked than a French whore during the Nazi occupation. He made it tough on her (and me) to make a point. She worked very hard when we left, but women weren't exactly running the show in the workforce in those days, and the early days were rough while she figured out what she would do. Fortunately, Mama Creep is a smart go-getter (what else would you expect?) and we got by ... barely.
I see no hypocrisy on my part here. I pointed out there's a downside to staying at home, and there is. Let's see how many others on team Kobe-Hunter Goon Squad put their money where their mouths are and counsel their daughters to stay home for 10 or 15 or 20 years ... especially today and how fast things change. Or in @BearsWiin 's case, his sons.
Yeah, my wife stayed home. But I'm not the guy here who is going to prosecute every point based solely on what I did. You've got your Team Tug drinking buddies for that; you don't need another one.
There is nothing wrong with considering multiple sides of an issue. You should be thanking me for breaking up the party once in a while. It's a gift and a service.
You did nothing of the sort. You added nothing
It was a complete failure on your part.
@creepycoug got board with his lame bored and finally broke down and slummed it again here. He did so seemingly to tell us peasants how he’s railways been rich and amazing as he shits on people like me who were poor after college and built our own lives and made our own money.
Do you ever not draft behind Race?
Where did I say I was always rich and wasn't poor after college? Is this one of your "I didn't read the thread again" posts?
How is your money you're own money and mine isn't my own money? How did that work? You sound like you don't like capitalism or something.
I was basing it off of your “that sounds boring af” post in response to @Prestonluv saying he lived in a 900 sq ft. house at one point in his life. Fuck, I started out living in LA after college in a tiny studio apartment with a friend and wouldn’t trade it for a thing.
Maybe you didn’t mean to come across as an arrogant douchebag, but that’s the vibe I’m getting from you in this thread. My opinion only.
Naaah, he often puts out that vibe.
Pompous and off-putting, I think we call it.
Yeah, I do believe that is what "we" called it.
You know Bob, I actually like you. I think we'd actually get along quite well in "real life."
You'll just have to understand that, if I am going to make a run of the Finance board, I'm going to have to portray a more polished image. I know it doesn't play well here, what with all the serious faces and what not.
“My bored is way better because we’re? civil (nope) and smart (very few) so I’m going to slum it for a bit on the Tug and insult everyone there because I need an ego boost.”
They're right ... the people who say you get emotional over these things. A lot of sarcasm flew over your head today. Were you sensitive as a boy?
It’s not sarcasm. You come across as an arrogant douchebag to me. Why does that matter? “The people who say” is a sign of insecurity, btw. As a friend.
It's sarcasm. Read through the thread. Not every word. Say, 85%. It's obvious unless you don't want it to be.
I've laid out enough of my own foibles and past troubles on HCH for two life-times. There is no reason to overreact or take those comments too seriously. I assume we all are sufficiently aware we live in a part of the country full of people who could buy all of us many times over with a day's simple interest in one cash account. The humility is there.
My wife quit work and stayed home to raise the kids. Wouldn't change that and I heartily recommend mom's at home. I don't want other people raising my kids! They could have turned out like HH or something.
We still raise our kids, and it’s going to be easier to have more daytime interaction with them with the shift toward work from home. Both my parents worked and I was kind of a latchkey kid, but I played sports from the time I was 5 years old(soccer/baseball/football/basketball) and we did weekend activities starting at age 2(skiing/hiking/camping/fishing) . It’s really about daytime/school/activities during the week. They need to be involved in sports and ECs and those need to be prioritized over playing Xbox or watching TV. Same as it’s ever been.
You played soccer? Damn. Sorry.
And, no offense, but one of my screening questions for all male suitors of Creepy's brood of beauties is whether they were latchkey kids growing up. Many were turned away on that basis alone.
I give no fucks on whether those trying to seduce my daughters were latchkey kids.
I want to see tax returns, W-2s and trust account statements.
Geez I only had boys. If I had girls my guns would have very clean and the tractor may have had a few more hours on it!
My wife quit work and stayed home to raise the kids. Wouldn't change that and I heartily recommend mom's at home. I don't want other people raising my kids! They could have turned out like HH or something.
We still raise our kids, and it’s going to be easier to have more daytime interaction with them with the shift toward work from home. Both my parents worked and I was kind of a latchkey kid, but I played sports from the time I was 5 years old(soccer/baseball/football/basketball) and we did weekend activities starting at age 2(skiing/hiking/camping/fishing) . It’s really about daytime/school/activities during the week. They need to be involved in sports and ECs and those need to be prioritized over playing Xbox or watching TV. Same as it’s ever been.
You played soccer? Damn. Sorry.
And, no offense, but one of my screening questions for all male suitors of Creepy's brood of beauties is whether they were latchkey kids growing up. Many were turned away on that basis alone.
I give no fucks on whether those trying to seduce my daughters were latchkey kids.
I want to see tax returns, W-2s and trust account statements.
Geez I only had boys. If I had girls my guns would have very clean and the tractor may have had a few more hours on it!
1. This belongs on the Finance board. I'll reprise it in slightly shinier wrapping at a later date.
2. My wife stayed home. Can't say if they were better for that reason, or by reason of their superior swarthy genetics (Charles Murray's opinions notwithstanding). I will say this: I have three girls, and they are fucking educated and I have advised them to (1) have a career and (2) live near their mother.
I'll amplify my rationale for #2. First, nobody will take care of those babies better than my wife, and it will be free, and it will free me to go fuck around and do whatever I want because my wife will be blissfully unaware and give no fucks about what I am doing. Second, the odds of marrying an asshole or loser can be greatly reduced based on where you meet him. Both of my girls in serious relationships (one of them is married) met Mr. Wonderful in college. Good. Slightly better odds than in HS or a fucking bar. The third one is dating a guy she met in grad school. Even better. But even with superior breeding and social engineering, there are still decent odds you are going to marry the wrong person. People change, and frankly, nobody really knows anybody until they've seen them react in the trenches.
The problem with this little trip down reactionary lane with you well-intentioned gentlemen is this: the world in which women stayed home was also a world in which they had little power and influence and were beholden to the men in their lives for the basics of food and shelter, much less a "good life." Next to zero autonomy. Creep's kids will be self-sufficient well into the financial zone of wealth building where Eddie Murphy's "Half!!!!!!!" actually means something.
But if you want to raise your daughters with that vulnerability, like the Mormons do, go right ahead. We? won't protest.
So your wife stayed home but its a trip down reactionary lane for others to point out the benefits of it
That weak shit don't fly here
It's heavy shit Boomer. It is, in fact, a trip down reactionary lane because it is a trip down reactionary lane. That it is what it is is not something for which to take issue with me. It's not my trip; I didn't book it.*
I'm just pointing out the downside. A guy your age ought to have piles of anecdotes of women you knew who had to slug it out in a miserable existence at home because it turns out dropping out of the work force for 20 years makes it kinda hard to be on your own economically. You see, I love my kids.
As to the merits, I hear ya. Mrs. Creep stayed home and my kids are damn near perfect. But the next generation of Creepy Super Zips are going to be even more better off. Grandma Creepy will watch the kids during the day, read them Shakespeare and play classical music all day, and when he feels like it, Grampa Creepy will teach them to golf. AND, my daughters will always be in a position to tell their husbands to go fuck off if they ever get fat and/or lazy and/or otherwise not meet our high standards.
*This is why the Finance board would do better with this. We? don't take things so personally. You guys get hysterical any time Kobe the Lib posts anything.
Sounds like all the pussy around you made you a real bitch. You sound like a giant vagina
Well, I had just enough in the way of balls to take care of business so my kids didn't have to wear garage sale clothes. So, not quite that bitch and pussy.
Sounds like you had a different experience. Sounds like your kids will tell their kids stories about growing up wearing hand-me-downs. I wonder what they'll all think of you.
I actually feel sorry for you. You sound miserable and exactly like my mom. Judging people on their finances and social status instead of their character. My kids dont think like you and hopefully your kids dont think like you either.
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I've laid out enough of my own foibles and past troubles on HCH for two life-times. There is no reason to overreact or take those comments too seriously. I assume we all are sufficiently aware we live in a part of the country full of people who could buy all of us many times over with a day's simple interest in one cash account. The humility is there.
Do it for @BearsWiin