Too bad you guys built an economy where both people in a couple have to work.
Given Tim’s previous comments, blaming feminism for why he can’t get laid, I wouldn’t take much of what he has to say here seriously.
No they dont in most cases. It's a matter of whether couples want to struggle financially in order to have a stay at home parent.
My kids had a stay at home mom their whole childhood. We struggled financially the first 4-5 years because of this but learned how to survive. Maybe we didn't go on vacation and maybe we didn't have nice cars or own a home....but guess what....nobody else raised our kids either. Nobody else changed their diaper during the day or got to see them walk and talk first. My wife saw everything and was there for them at all times during day and I was there at night time when I got home from work. People have their priorities fucked up. They value positions and social standing and nice cars over family.
I made around 40k a year the first 3 years on average and about 70k on average the next three years.
40k single income family is lower class in seattle and 70k is lower middle class in seattle. I eventually made more but we lived on scraps for the first 5-6 years and it was all worth it
My kids are 18 and 21 and super sweet and kind and respectful. I'm not saying that kids can't be that way from homes that have both parents working or from single parent homes....I'm saying it happens more often when you have a loving parent there at all times to care for them and guide them especially when they are young.
When my kids both hit elementary school then their mom found a part time job during day.
Easy peasy.
I have no problem saying that couples who both decide to work full time in the first 5-6 years of their kids life are doing them a disservice
This last one is trying to create the best, cleanest, in a vacuum scenario for can millennial parents live a middle class life with kids on a single income and when they gets there, they says this.
Actually implementing this in real life would require very strong patience and discipline. This would mean virtually no eating at restaurants, international travel, or expensive purchases in general, including in years that are several years before actually having children in order to build up a substantial nest egg. It would require that they consistently be able to get raises that exceed inflation and not have any substantial period of unemployment. In other words, it would require substantial luck and willingness to pinch pennies for decades. But if you have a bachelor’s degree and run the table, the numbers do work.
No, for most of us it is not a choice between dual incomes and struggling a little bit. Even in your worthless, anecdotal life story, your wife still eventually got a part time job. It is a dual income economy if you want kids. That is what the numbers show.
We are a dual income household, with mom working from home for the foreseeable future. It would be easy to manage if kids were in school and had access to summer camps and sports.
As things are now, it ain’t easy....but living in woke King Co ain’t cheap these days. Gotta work hard so that other people can have their free needles.
Too bad you guys built an economy where both people in a couple have to work.
Given Tim’s previous comments, blaming feminism for why he can’t get laid, I wouldn’t take much of what he has to say here seriously.
No they dont in most cases. It's a matter of whether couples want to struggle financially in order to have a stay at home parent.
My kids had a stay at home mom their whole childhood. We struggled financially the first 4-5 years because of this but learned how to survive. Maybe we didn't go on vacation and maybe we didn't have nice cars or own a home....but guess what....nobody else raised our kids either. Nobody else changed their diaper during the day or got to see them walk and talk first. My wife saw everything and was there for them at all times during day and I was there at night time when I got home from work. People have their priorities fucked up. They value positions and social standing and nice cars over family.
I made around 40k a year the first 3 years on average and about 70k on average the next three years.
40k single income family is lower class in seattle and 70k is lower middle class in seattle. I eventually made more but we lived on scraps for the first 5-6 years and it was all worth it
My kids are 18 and 21 and super sweet and kind and respectful. I'm not saying that kids can't be that way from homes that have both parents working or from single parent homes....I'm saying it happens more often when you have a loving parent there at all times to care for them and guide them especially when they are young.
When my kids both hit elementary school then their mom found a part time job during day.
Easy peasy.
I have no problem saying that couples who both decide to work full time in the first 5-6 years of their kids life are doing them a disservice
This last one is trying to create the best, cleanest, in a vacuum scenario for can millennial parents live a middle class life with kids on a single income and when they gets there, they says this.
Actually implementing this in real life would require very strong patience and discipline. This would mean virtually no eating at restaurants, international travel, or expensive purchases in general, including in years that are several years before actually having children in order to build up a substantial nest egg. It would require that they consistently be able to get raises that exceed inflation and not have any substantial period of unemployment. In other words, it would require substantial luck and willingness to pinch pennies for decades. But if you have a bachelor’s degree and run the table, the numbers do work.
No, for most of us it is not a choice between dual incomes and struggling a little bit. Even in your worthless, anecdotal life story, your wife still eventually got a part time job. It is a dual income economy if you want kids. That is what the numbers show.
She got the job mainly for adult interaction. By the time she got it I was making more money.
We lived in a 900 square foot home. We never went out. We didn't go on a vacation until they were 7 and 10. We never did anything expensive. We shopped at low income stores and got our clothes from garage sales in upper class neighborhoods.
We had one car and no financial help from anyone.
You can post all the links you want. I lived it in one of the richest cities on the face of this earth.
Too bad you guys built an economy where both people in a couple have to work.
Given Tim’s previous comments, blaming feminism for why he can’t get laid, I wouldn’t take much of what he has to say here seriously.
No they dont in most cases. It's a matter of whether couples want to struggle financially in order to have a stay at home parent.
My kids had a stay at home mom their whole childhood. We struggled financially the first 4-5 years because of this but learned how to survive. Maybe we didn't go on vacation and maybe we didn't have nice cars or own a home....but guess what....nobody else raised our kids either. Nobody else changed their diaper during the day or got to see them walk and talk first. My wife saw everything and was there for them at all times during day and I was there at night time when I got home from work. People have their priorities fucked up. They value positions and social standing and nice cars over family.
I made around 40k a year the first 3 years on average and about 70k on average the next three years.
40k single income family is lower class in seattle and 70k is lower middle class in seattle. I eventually made more but we lived on scraps for the first 5-6 years and it was all worth it
My kids are 18 and 21 and super sweet and kind and respectful. I'm not saying that kids can't be that way from homes that have both parents working or from single parent homes....I'm saying it happens more often when you have a loving parent there at all times to care for them and guide them especially when they are young.
When my kids both hit elementary school then their mom found a part time job during day.
Easy peasy.
I have no problem saying that couples who both decide to work full time in the first 5-6 years of their kids life are doing them a disservice
This last one is trying to create the best, cleanest, in a vacuum scenario for can millennial parents live a middle class life with kids on a single income and when they gets there, they says this.
Actually implementing this in real life would require very strong patience and discipline. This would mean virtually no eating at restaurants, international travel, or expensive purchases in general, including in years that are several years before actually having children in order to build up a substantial nest egg. It would require that they consistently be able to get raises that exceed inflation and not have any substantial period of unemployment. In other words, it would require substantial luck and willingness to pinch pennies for decades. But if you have a bachelor’s degree and run the table, the numbers do work.
No, for most of us it is not a choice between dual incomes and struggling a little bit. Even in your worthless, anecdotal life story, your wife still eventually got a part time job. It is a dual income economy if you want kids. That is what the numbers show.
She got the job mainly for adult interaction. By the time she got it I was making more money.
We lived in a 900 square foot home. We never went out. We didn't go on a vacation until they were 7 and 10. We never did anything expensive. We shopped at low income stores and got our clothes from garage sales in upper class neighborhoods.
We had one car and no financial help from anyone.
You can post all the links you want. I lived it in one of the richest cities on the face of this earth.
It can be extremely difficult for people to accept that a system that worked for them, that benefits them, doesn’t work.
I’m reminded of this photo
This was used by the right to prove that poor people could work their way up, that black people could make it in America. A singular example to disprove statistical fact. The American dream is more real in Denmark, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Iceland, Netherlands, Switzerland, Belgium, Austria, Luxembourg, Germany, France, Slovenia, Canada, Japan, Australia, Malta, Ireland, Czechia, Singapore, UK, New Zealand, Estonia, Portugal, South Korea and Lithuania. And down here at 27th, in social mobility, is the United States of America. But that one lady made it so everything must be fine.
You worked hard, you sacrificed, you made it, no one is taking that away from you. Lots of people work hard, lots of people sacrifice, you’re not a special snowflake.
Here’s the thing that shit-ass millennials and Gen Zers need to get through their heads.
When you’re young, you’re poor and you’re expected to work your ass off in order to succeed and eventually provide for a family. Not everyone makes it. Not everyone is talented, or organized, or driven, or intelligent enough to reach the kinds of success that capitalism and the American way of life can produce.
That said, the opportunity exists, and instead of whining and bitching like little children over free healthcare and debt forgiveness, it would benefit everyone if these people in TKS’ demo would simply shut the fuck up, pick up a lunch box, and go out and try to do something besides waxing philosophical on Twitter for a change.
We all had to do it. There’s no fucking earthly reason why you shouldn’t, at our expense. Every generation in the history of the American experience has had to have the come to Jesus talk from those prior, but it seems very apparent you’ve taken the intellectually dishonest pandering by leftist media too seriously, and, instead of that sentinel talk from your parents leading toward work ethic, innovation, and new industry, it’s led to “Ok, Boomer” while you hold up your selfie stick for the Instagram post that you hope leads toward a “career” as an influencer or whatever.
So, fuck your debt forgiveness and your free healthcare, and your universal basic income, and your green new deal. Go get a job and do some fucking work. We are wholly uninterested in sacrificing decades of labor and sacrifice so that you don’t have to pay off your degrees in sociology or art history.
Here’s the thing that shit-ass millennials and Gen Zers need to get through their heads.
When you’re young, you’re poor and you’re expected to work your ass off in order to succeed and eventually provide for a family. Not everyone makes it. Not everyone is talented, or organized, or driven, or intelligent enough to reach the kinds of success that capitalism and the American way of life can produce.
That said, the opportunity exists, and instead of whining and bitching like little children over free healthcare and debt forgiveness, it would benefit everyone if these people in TKS’ demo would simply shut the fuck up, pick up a lunch box, and go out and try to do something besides waxing philosophical on Twitter for a change.
We all had to do it. There’s no fucking earthly reason why you shouldn’t, at our expense. Every generation in the history of the American experience has had to have the come to Jesus talk from those prior, but it seems very apparent you’ve taken the intellectually dishonest pandering by leftist media too seriously, and, instead of that sentinel talk from your parents leading toward work ethic, innovation, and new industry, it’s led to “Ok, Boomer” while you hold up your selfie stick for the Instagram post that you hope leads toward a “career” as an influencer or whatever.
So, fuck your debt forgiveness and your free healthcare, and your universal basic income, and your green new deal. Go get a job and do some fucking work. We are wholly uninterested in sacrificing decades of labor and sacrifice so that you don’t have to pay off your degrees in sociology or art history.
Too bad you guys built an economy where both people in a couple have to work.
Given Tim’s previous comments, blaming feminism for why he can’t get laid, I wouldn’t take much of what he has to say here seriously.
No they dont in most cases. It's a matter of whether couples want to struggle financially in order to have a stay at home parent.
My kids had a stay at home mom their whole childhood. We struggled financially the first 4-5 years because of this but learned how to survive. Maybe we didn't go on vacation and maybe we didn't have nice cars or own a home....but guess what....nobody else raised our kids either. Nobody else changed their diaper during the day or got to see them walk and talk first. My wife saw everything and was there for them at all times during day and I was there at night time when I got home from work. People have their priorities fucked up. They value positions and social standing and nice cars over family.
I made around 40k a year the first 3 years on average and about 70k on average the next three years.
40k single income family is lower class in seattle and 70k is lower middle class in seattle. I eventually made more but we lived on scraps for the first 5-6 years and it was all worth it
My kids are 18 and 21 and super sweet and kind and respectful. I'm not saying that kids can't be that way from homes that have both parents working or from single parent homes....I'm saying it happens more often when you have a loving parent there at all times to care for them and guide them especially when they are young.
When my kids both hit elementary school then their mom found a part time job during day.
Easy peasy.
I have no problem saying that couples who both decide to work full time in the first 5-6 years of their kids life are doing them a disservice
This last one is trying to create the best, cleanest, in a vacuum scenario for can millennial parents live a middle class life with kids on a single income and when they gets there, they says this.
Actually implementing this in real life would require very strong patience and discipline. This would mean virtually no eating at restaurants, international travel, or expensive purchases in general, including in years that are several years before actually having children in order to build up a substantial nest egg. It would require that they consistently be able to get raises that exceed inflation and not have any substantial period of unemployment. In other words, it would require substantial luck and willingness to pinch pennies for decades. But if you have a bachelor’s degree and run the table, the numbers do work.
No, for most of us it is not a choice between dual incomes and struggling a little bit. Even in your worthless, anecdotal life story, your wife still eventually got a part time job. It is a dual income economy if you want kids. That is what the numbers show.
She got the job mainly for adult interaction. By the time she got it I was making more money.
We lived in a 900 square foot home. We never went out. We didn't go on a vacation until they were 7 and 10. We never did anything expensive. We shopped at low income stores and got our clothes from garage sales in upper class neighborhoods.
We had one car and no financial help from anyone.
You can post all the links you want. I lived it in one of the richest cities on the face of this earth.
It can be extremely difficult for people to accept that a system that worked for them, that benefits them, doesn’t work.
I’m reminded of this photo
This was used by the right to prove that poor people could work their way up, that black people could make it in America. A singular example to disprove statistical fact. The American dream is more real in Denmark, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Iceland, Netherlands, Switzerland, Belgium, Austria, Luxembourg, Germany, France, Slovenia, Canada, Japan, Australia, Malta, Ireland, Czechia, Singapore, UK, New Zealand, Estonia, Portugal, South Korea and Lithuania. And down here at 27th, in social mobility, is the United States of America. But that one lady made it so everything must be fine.
You worked hard, you sacrificed, you made it, no one is taking that away from you. Lots of people work hard, lots of people sacrifice, you’re not a special snowflake.
You are so full of crap, man. Open your F'ing eyes.
Here’s the thing that shit-ass millennials and Gen Zers need to get through their heads.
When you’re young, you’re poor and you’re expected to work your ass off in order to succeed and eventually provide for a family. Not everyone makes it. Not everyone is talented, or organized, or driven, or intelligent enough to reach the kinds of success that capitalism and the American way of life can produce.
That said, the opportunity exists, and instead of whining and bitching like little children over free healthcare and debt forgiveness, it would benefit everyone if these people in TKS’ demo would simply shut the fuck up, pick up a lunch box, and go out and try to do something besides waxing philosophical on Twitter for a change.
We all had to do it. There’s no fucking earthly reason why you shouldn’t, at our expense. Every generation in the history of the American experience has had to have the come to Jesus talk from those prior, but it seems very apparent you’ve taken the intellectually dishonest pandering by leftist media too seriously, and, instead of that sentinel talk from your parents leading toward work ethic, innovation, and new industry, it’s led to “Ok, Boomer” while you hold up your selfie stick for the Instagram post that you hope leads toward a “career” as an influencer or whatever.
So, fuck your debt forgiveness and your free healthcare, and your universal basic income, and your green new deal. Go get a job and do some fucking work. We are wholly uninterested in sacrificing decades of labor and sacrifice so that you don’t have to pay off your degrees in sociology or art history.
HTH
This is completely dialed in. Capitalism, man. It works. Put in the work, reap the dividends of your efforts. Don' t put in the work, live with the consequences.
Too bad you guys built an economy where both people in a couple have to work.
Given Tim’s previous comments, blaming feminism for why he can’t get laid, I wouldn’t take much of what he has to say here seriously.
Both people having to work has been a staple of American life since the 70s.
Dual income households didn’t pass single income households until the 80s. Guess who was president then.
And you're lying as usual.
The trend toward both parents working started in the 50s and continued to increase through the 60s and the 70s under both Republican and Rat Presidents but when you're a fucking moron you think it was caused by Reagan.
Too bad you guys built an economy where both people in a couple have to work.
Given Tim’s previous comments, blaming feminism for why he can’t get laid, I wouldn’t take much of what he has to say here seriously.
Dual incomes are more necessary in your liberal sanctuaries. But your ignorance is noted.
We can’t all get paid to not grow food and live in 5 bedroom $100,000 homes. Some of us actually need to drive the economy of the worlds superpower.
Is this where you stick your head up your ass again and claim that all rural agricultural areas receive farm price supports? Btw, why does a guy who ceaselessly advocates for Federal government handouts object to farm price supports? You love government handouts in every other situation.
Too bad you guys built an economy where both people in a couple have to work.
Given Tim’s previous comments, blaming feminism for why he can’t get laid, I wouldn’t take much of what he has to say here seriously.
If Dimocrats acted like they did in the 70s, I'd support them.
They don't. They sold out decades ago. Now it's all woke and feminist bullshit and carrying water for China and the one percent. Sad.
The woke shit stays. There’s bullshit like manspreading, science is white supremacy, black people cant be racist, there’s dumb shit for sure. And then you’ve got the libs painting BLM and rainbows on bombs we drop on kids. But one of our biggest concerns class reductionism. We do not believe that all oppression is a byproduct of class so racial justice, lgbtq rights, we’re not leaving those behind.
My experience with the left, and I mean Bernie/AOC and over, is most of the woke shit that gets amplified isn’t what we believe in but some of it is. If that’s a deal breaker, then that’s too bad. But we’ll always have room for you if you change your mind.
I think a lot more people are into stupid shit like manspreading than you think. I've had arguments with "friends" over that stuff. They take it very seriously because their Seattle feminist mommies told them to and how bad men are.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/us-birthrate-decline-millennials-delay-having-kids-2019-5?amp
https://agranato.medium.com/can-a-millennial-single-earner-support-a-traditional-middle-class-family-8a1e2fee20be
This last one is trying to create the best, cleanest, in a vacuum scenario for can millennial parents live a middle class life with kids on a single income and when they gets there, they says this.
Actually implementing this in real life would require very strong patience and discipline. This would mean virtually no eating at restaurants, international travel, or expensive purchases in general, including in years that are several years before actually having children in order to build up a substantial nest egg. It would require that they consistently be able to get raises that exceed inflation and not have any substantial period of unemployment. In other words, it would require substantial luck and willingness to pinch pennies for decades. But if you have a bachelor’s degree and run the table, the numbers do work.
No, for most of us it is not a choice between dual incomes and struggling a little bit. Even in your worthless, anecdotal life story, your wife still eventually got a part time job. It is a dual income economy if you want kids. That is what the numbers show.
4 years from now nothing will have changed - life and death go on. and us little folks get fucked by government
As things are now, it ain’t easy....but living in woke King Co ain’t cheap these days. Gotta work hard so that other people can have their free needles.
By the time she got it I was making more money.
We lived in a 900 square foot home. We never went out. We didn't go on a vacation until they were 7 and 10. We never did anything expensive. We shopped at low income stores and got our clothes from garage sales in upper class neighborhoods.
We had one car and no financial help from anyone.
You can post all the links you want. I lived it in one of the richest cities on the face of this earth.
Point being, take this up with your baby girl AOC, as her district is one of the biggest offenders of the slave labor lifestyle you speak of.
I’m reminded of this photo
This was used by the right to prove that poor people could work their way up, that black people could make it in America. A singular example to disprove statistical fact. The American dream is more real in Denmark, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Iceland, Netherlands, Switzerland, Belgium, Austria, Luxembourg, Germany, France, Slovenia, Canada, Japan, Australia, Malta, Ireland, Czechia, Singapore, UK, New Zealand, Estonia, Portugal, South Korea and Lithuania. And down here at 27th, in social mobility, is the United States of America. But that one lady made it so everything must be fine.
You worked hard, you sacrificed, you made it, no one is taking that away from you. Lots of people work hard, lots of people sacrifice, you’re not a special snowflake.
Shocking that mass shooters didn’t have a good home life.
Very chinsightful.
When you’re young, you’re poor and you’re expected to work your ass off in order to succeed and eventually provide for a family. Not everyone makes it. Not everyone is talented, or organized, or driven, or intelligent enough to reach the kinds of success that capitalism and the American way of life can produce.
That said, the opportunity exists, and instead of whining and bitching like little children over free healthcare and debt forgiveness, it would benefit everyone if these people in TKS’ demo would simply shut the fuck up, pick up a lunch box, and go out and try to do something besides waxing philosophical on Twitter for a change.
We all had to do it. There’s no fucking earthly reason why you shouldn’t, at our expense. Every generation in the history of the American experience has had to have the come to Jesus talk from those prior, but it seems very apparent you’ve taken the intellectually dishonest pandering by leftist media too seriously, and, instead of that sentinel talk from your parents leading toward work ethic, innovation, and new industry, it’s led to “Ok, Boomer” while you hold up your selfie stick for the Instagram post that you hope leads toward a “career” as an influencer or whatever.
So, fuck your debt forgiveness and your free healthcare, and your universal basic income, and your green new deal. Go get a job and do some fucking work. We are wholly uninterested in sacrificing decades of labor and sacrifice so that you don’t have to pay off your degrees in sociology or art history.
HTH
t put in the work, live with the consequences.
The trend toward both parents working started in the 50s and continued to increase through the 60s and the 70s under both Republican and Rat Presidents but when you're a fucking moron you think it was caused by Reagan.