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New Poll Shows Almost HALF Of Women Want To Stay HOME, Not Work

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  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Making a rare appearance in the Tug to say:

    1. This belongs on the Finance board. I'll reprise it in slightly shinier wrapping at a later date.

    2. My wife stayed home. Can't say if they were better for that reason, or by reason of their superior swarthy genetics (Charles Murray's opinions notwithstanding). I will say this: I have three girls, and they are fucking educated and I have advised them to (1) have a career and (2) live near their mother.

    I'll amplify my rationale for #2. First, nobody will take care of those babies better than my wife, and it will be free, and it will free me to go fuck around and do whatever I want because my wife will be blissfully unaware and give no fucks about what I am doing. Second, the odds of marrying an asshole or loser can be greatly reduced based on where you meet him. Both of my girls in serious relationships (one of them is married) met Mr. Wonderful in college. Good. Slightly better odds than in HS or a fucking bar. The third one is dating a guy she met in grad school. Even better. But even with superior breeding and social engineering, there are still decent odds you are going to marry the wrong person. People change, and frankly, nobody really knows anybody until they've seen them react in the trenches.

    The problem with this little trip down reactionary lane with you well-intentioned gentlemen is this: the world in which women stayed home was also a world in which they had little power and influence and were beholden to the men in their lives for the basics of food and shelter, much less a "good life." Next to zero autonomy. Creep's kids will be self-sufficient well into the financial zone of wealth building where Eddie Murphy's "Half!!!!!!!" actually means something.

    But if you want to raise your daughters with that vulnerability, like the Mormons do, go right ahead. We? won't protest.

    So your wife stayed home but its a trip down reactionary lane for others to point out the benefits of it

    That weak shit don't fly here
    It's heavy shit Boomer. It is, in fact, a trip down reactionary lane because it is a trip down reactionary lane. That it is what it is is not something for which to take issue with me. It's not my trip; I didn't book it.*

    I'm just pointing out the downside. A guy your age ought to have piles of anecdotes of women you knew who had to slug it out in a miserable existence at home because it turns out dropping out of the work force for 20 years makes it kinda hard to be on your own economically. You see, I love my kids.

    As to the merits, I hear ya. Mrs. Creep stayed home and my kids are damn near perfect. But the next generation of Creepy Super Zips are going to be even more better off. Grandma Creepy will watch the kids during the day, read them Shakespeare and play classical music all day, and when he feels like it, Grampa Creepy will teach them to golf. AND, my daughters will always be in a position to tell their husbands to go fuck off if they ever get fat and/or lazy and/or otherwise not meet our high standards.

    *This is why the Finance board would do better with this. We? don't take things so personally. You guys get hysterical any time Kobe the Lib posts anything.

    This is hate speech.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,640
    edited March 2021

    @creepycoug you got issues at your joint. Got some trash accumulating over there

    My people are watching it. Not to worry.

    I thought I'd come over and say hi and see how things are going. Looks like you guys found your new punching bag.

  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,400 Standard Supporter

    thechatch said:

    thechatch said:

    Here’s the thing that shit-ass millennials and Gen Zers need to get through their heads.

    When you’re young, you’re poor and you’re expected to work your ass off in order to succeed and eventually provide for a family. Not everyone makes it. Not everyone is talented, or organized, or driven, or intelligent enough to reach the kinds of success that capitalism and the American way of life can produce.

    That said, the opportunity exists, and instead of whining and bitching like little children over free healthcare and debt forgiveness, it would benefit everyone if these people in TKS’ demo would simply shut the fuck up, pick up a lunch box, and go out and try to do something besides waxing philosophical on Twitter for a change.

    We all had to do it. There’s no fucking earthly reason why you shouldn’t, at our expense. Every generation in the history of the American experience has had to have the come to Jesus talk from those prior, but it seems very apparent you’ve taken the intellectually dishonest pandering by leftist media too seriously, and, instead of that sentinel talk from your parents leading toward work ethic, innovation, and new industry, it’s led to “Ok, Boomer” while you hold up your selfie stick for the Instagram post that you hope leads toward a “career” as an influencer or whatever.

    So, fuck your debt forgiveness and your free healthcare, and your universal basic income, and your green new deal. Go get a job and do some fucking work. We are wholly uninterested in sacrificing decades of labor and sacrifice so that you don’t have to pay off your degrees in sociology or art history.

    HTH

    I’m sure that felt really good to write but facts don’t care about your feelings.

    Millennials have 5% of the wealth in this country, at the same point boomers had 21%. We did not all go through this. But yeah man it’s about selfie sticks and avocado toast. We are wholly uninterested in taking advice from two generations that were handed great economy’s and ran them into the ground.
    Yet here you are with your hand out like a 6 year old, crying gimme gimme gimme. How old are you? Where did you go to school again? What degree program? What do you do for work?

    Why can’t you get your own health insurance? Why do you need someone else to pay your student loans? Why do you need the government to provide you with an income?

    We never asked for any of that shit. What makes you so fucking special?
    Medicare For All and cancelling student debt will not benefit me at all. My choice to support those policies is based on what will most benefit the people and economy of this country, both in the short term and the long term.

    You didn’t ask for any of that shit because you didn’t have to.
    How will paying for free shit for everyone benefit the economy? Lay that one out for me Einstein?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,486 Founders Club

    Making a rare appearance in the Tug to say:

    1. This belongs on the Finance board. I'll reprise it in slightly shinier wrapping at a later date.

    2. My wife stayed home. Can't say if they were better for that reason, or by reason of their superior swarthy genetics (Charles Murray's opinions notwithstanding). I will say this: I have three girls, and they are fucking educated and I have advised them to (1) have a career and (2) live near their mother.

    I'll amplify my rationale for #2. First, nobody will take care of those babies better than my wife, and it will be free, and it will free me to go fuck around and do whatever I want because my wife will be blissfully unaware and give no fucks about what I am doing. Second, the odds of marrying an asshole or loser can be greatly reduced based on where you meet him. Both of my girls in serious relationships (one of them is married) met Mr. Wonderful in college. Good. Slightly better odds than in HS or a fucking bar. The third one is dating a guy she met in grad school. Even better. But even with superior breeding and social engineering, there are still decent odds you are going to marry the wrong person. People change, and frankly, nobody really knows anybody until they've seen them react in the trenches.

    The problem with this little trip down reactionary lane with you well-intentioned gentlemen is this: the world in which women stayed home was also a world in which they had little power and influence and were beholden to the men in their lives for the basics of food and shelter, much less a "good life." Next to zero autonomy. Creep's kids will be self-sufficient well into the financial zone of wealth building where Eddie Murphy's "Half!!!!!!!" actually means something.

    But if you want to raise your daughters with that vulnerability, like the Mormons do, go right ahead. We? won't protest.

    So your wife stayed home but its a trip down reactionary lane for others to point out the benefits of it

    That weak shit don't fly here
    It's heavy shit Boomer. It is, in fact, a trip down reactionary lane because it is a trip down reactionary lane. That it is what it is is not something for which to take issue with me. It's not my trip; I didn't book it.*

    I'm just pointing out the downside. A guy your age ought to have piles of anecdotes of women you knew who had to slug it out in a miserable existence at home because it turns out dropping out of the work force for 20 years makes it kinda hard to be on your own economically. You see, I love my kids.

    As to the merits, I hear ya. Mrs. Creep stayed home and my kids are damn near perfect. But the next generation of Creepy Super Zips are going to be even more better off. Grandma Creepy will watch the kids during the day, read them Shakespeare and play classical music all day, and when he feels like it, Grampa Creepy will teach them to golf. AND, my daughters will always be in a position to tell their husbands to go fuck off if they ever get fat and/or lazy and/or otherwise not meet our high standards.

    *This is why the Finance board would do better with this. We? don't take things so personally. You guys get hysterical any time Kobe the Lib posts anything.

    Your motives are pure but others aren't post of the day. If your wife had worked your post would make sense but she stayed home. My wife worked and you're accusing me of what you did. That shit don't fly here. You need a board where no one can question anything because "take it to the tug" if you do.

    My mom wanted to go back to work as we got ready to LEAVE the house and my dad divorced her because of it. And I saw first hand how the credit rating went to the guy who worked all those years and she was treated like a teenager. I saw her attorney, the judge and my dad's attorney play golf with my dad many times. I saw how that worked out in the settlement.

    Don't tell me anything boy. I was there.

    All I said was if its good enough for you its good enough for anyone else here and being reactionary has nothing to do with it
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,640

    thechatch said:

    thechatch said:

    Here’s the thing that shit-ass millennials and Gen Zers need to get through their heads.

    When you’re young, you’re poor and you’re expected to work your ass off in order to succeed and eventually provide for a family. Not everyone makes it. Not everyone is talented, or organized, or driven, or intelligent enough to reach the kinds of success that capitalism and the American way of life can produce.

    That said, the opportunity exists, and instead of whining and bitching like little children over free healthcare and debt forgiveness, it would benefit everyone if these people in TKS’ demo would simply shut the fuck up, pick up a lunch box, and go out and try to do something besides waxing philosophical on Twitter for a change.

    We all had to do it. There’s no fucking earthly reason why you shouldn’t, at our expense. Every generation in the history of the American experience has had to have the come to Jesus talk from those prior, but it seems very apparent you’ve taken the intellectually dishonest pandering by leftist media too seriously, and, instead of that sentinel talk from your parents leading toward work ethic, innovation, and new industry, it’s led to “Ok, Boomer” while you hold up your selfie stick for the Instagram post that you hope leads toward a “career” as an influencer or whatever.

    So, fuck your debt forgiveness and your free healthcare, and your universal basic income, and your green new deal. Go get a job and do some fucking work. We are wholly uninterested in sacrificing decades of labor and sacrifice so that you don’t have to pay off your degrees in sociology or art history.

    HTH

    I’m sure that felt really good to write but facts don’t care about your feelings.

    Millennials have 5% of the wealth in this country, at the same point boomers had 21%. We did not all go through this. But yeah man it’s about selfie sticks and avocado toast. We are wholly uninterested in taking advice from two generations that were handed great economy’s and ran them into the ground.
    Yet here you are with your hand out like a 6 year old, crying gimme gimme gimme. How old are you? Where did you go to school again? What degree program? What do you do for work?

    Why can’t you get your own health insurance? Why do you need someone else to pay your student loans? Why do you need the government to provide you with an income?

    We never asked for any of that shit. What makes you so fucking special?
    Medicare For All and cancelling student debt will not benefit me at all. My choice to support those policies is based on what will most benefit the people and economy of this country, both in the short term and the long term.

    You didn’t ask for any of that shit because you didn’t have to.
    Most people I know, even here, even Race, want a healthcare system that will work and this is reasonably affordable. "Work" is the operative word. It's just proven to be a difficult nut to solve.

    Student loans is easy ... (1) Do NOT forgive them; and (2) get the government out of the student loan business.

    I'll pick this up on the Finance board. Feel free to stop by and hang out for a while. They'll be begging you to come back here inside of a week.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,486 Founders Club
    The more healthcare gets fixed the worse it gets

    But let's believe them this time
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,640

    Making a rare appearance in the Tug to say:

    1. This belongs on the Finance board. I'll reprise it in slightly shinier wrapping at a later date.

    2. My wife stayed home. Can't say if they were better for that reason, or by reason of their superior swarthy genetics (Charles Murray's opinions notwithstanding). I will say this: I have three girls, and they are fucking educated and I have advised them to (1) have a career and (2) live near their mother.

    I'll amplify my rationale for #2. First, nobody will take care of those babies better than my wife, and it will be free, and it will free me to go fuck around and do whatever I want because my wife will be blissfully unaware and give no fucks about what I am doing. Second, the odds of marrying an asshole or loser can be greatly reduced based on where you meet him. Both of my girls in serious relationships (one of them is married) met Mr. Wonderful in college. Good. Slightly better odds than in HS or a fucking bar. The third one is dating a guy she met in grad school. Even better. But even with superior breeding and social engineering, there are still decent odds you are going to marry the wrong person. People change, and frankly, nobody really knows anybody until they've seen them react in the trenches.

    The problem with this little trip down reactionary lane with you well-intentioned gentlemen is this: the world in which women stayed home was also a world in which they had little power and influence and were beholden to the men in their lives for the basics of food and shelter, much less a "good life." Next to zero autonomy. Creep's kids will be self-sufficient well into the financial zone of wealth building where Eddie Murphy's "Half!!!!!!!" actually means something.

    But if you want to raise your daughters with that vulnerability, like the Mormons do, go right ahead. We? won't protest.

    So your wife stayed home but its a trip down reactionary lane for others to point out the benefits of it

    That weak shit don't fly here
    It's heavy shit Boomer. It is, in fact, a trip down reactionary lane because it is a trip down reactionary lane. That it is what it is is not something for which to take issue with me. It's not my trip; I didn't book it.*

    I'm just pointing out the downside. A guy your age ought to have piles of anecdotes of women you knew who had to slug it out in a miserable existence at home because it turns out dropping out of the work force for 20 years makes it kinda hard to be on your own economically. You see, I love my kids.

    As to the merits, I hear ya. Mrs. Creep stayed home and my kids are damn near perfect. But the next generation of Creepy Super Zips are going to be even more better off. Grandma Creepy will watch the kids during the day, read them Shakespeare and play classical music all day, and when he feels like it, Grampa Creepy will teach them to golf. AND, my daughters will always be in a position to tell their husbands to go fuck off if they ever get fat and/or lazy and/or otherwise not meet our high standards.

    *This is why the Finance board would do better with this. We? don't take things so personally. You guys get hysterical any time Kobe the Lib posts anything.

    This is hate speech.
    It is? Set me straight.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915
    edited March 2021

    thechatch said:

    thechatch said:

    Here’s the thing that shit-ass millennials and Gen Zers need to get through their heads.

    When you’re young, you’re poor and you’re expected to work your ass off in order to succeed and eventually provide for a family. Not everyone makes it. Not everyone is talented, or organized, or driven, or intelligent enough to reach the kinds of success that capitalism and the American way of life can produce.

    That said, the opportunity exists, and instead of whining and bitching like little children over free healthcare and debt forgiveness, it would benefit everyone if these people in TKS’ demo would simply shut the fuck up, pick up a lunch box, and go out and try to do something besides waxing philosophical on Twitter for a change.

    We all had to do it. There’s no fucking earthly reason why you shouldn’t, at our expense. Every generation in the history of the American experience has had to have the come to Jesus talk from those prior, but it seems very apparent you’ve taken the intellectually dishonest pandering by leftist media too seriously, and, instead of that sentinel talk from your parents leading toward work ethic, innovation, and new industry, it’s led to “Ok, Boomer” while you hold up your selfie stick for the Instagram post that you hope leads toward a “career” as an influencer or whatever.

    So, fuck your debt forgiveness and your free healthcare, and your universal basic income, and your green new deal. Go get a job and do some fucking work. We are wholly uninterested in sacrificing decades of labor and sacrifice so that you don’t have to pay off your degrees in sociology or art history.

    HTH

    I’m sure that felt really good to write but facts don’t care about your feelings.

    Millennials have 5% of the wealth in this country, at the same point boomers had 21%. We did not all go through this. But yeah man it’s about selfie sticks and avocado toast. We are wholly uninterested in taking advice from two generations that were handed great economy’s and ran them into the ground.
    Yet here you are with your hand out like a 6 year old, crying gimme gimme gimme. How old are you? Where did you go to school again? What degree program? What do you do for work?

    Why can’t you get your own health insurance? Why do you need someone else to pay your student loans? Why do you need the government to provide you with an income?

    We never asked for any of that shit. What makes you so fucking special?
    Medicare For All and cancelling student debt will not benefit me at all. My choice to support those policies is based on what will most benefit the people and economy of this country, both in the short term and the long term.

    You didn’t ask for any of that shit because you didn’t have to.
    Most people I know, even here, even Race, want a healthcare system that will work and this is reasonably affordable. "Work" is the operative word. It's just proven to be a difficult nut to solve.

    Student loans is easy ... (1) Do NOT forgive them; and (2) get the government out of the student loan business.

    I'll pick this up on the Finance board. Feel free to stop by and hang out for a while. They'll be begging you to come back here inside of a week.
    So get the government out of the student loan biz, and in even deeper to the healthcare biz?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,580
    Sledog said:

    My wife quit work and stayed home to raise the kids. Wouldn't change that and I heartily recommend mom's at home. I don't want other people raising my kids! They could have turned out like HH or something.

    Yeah, who wants wealthy kids anyway?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    My wife quit work and stayed home to raise the kids. Wouldn't change that and I heartily recommend mom's at home. I don't want other people raising my kids! They could have turned out like HH or something.

    Yeah, who wants wealthy kids anyway?
    Money isn't everything. I'd rather my kids had character and integrity, traits you're completely void of.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,640

    Making a rare appearance in the Tug to say:

    1. This belongs on the Finance board. I'll reprise it in slightly shinier wrapping at a later date.

    2. My wife stayed home. Can't say if they were better for that reason, or by reason of their superior swarthy genetics (Charles Murray's opinions notwithstanding). I will say this: I have three girls, and they are fucking educated and I have advised them to (1) have a career and (2) live near their mother.

    I'll amplify my rationale for #2. First, nobody will take care of those babies better than my wife, and it will be free, and it will free me to go fuck around and do whatever I want because my wife will be blissfully unaware and give no fucks about what I am doing. Second, the odds of marrying an asshole or loser can be greatly reduced based on where you meet him. Both of my girls in serious relationships (one of them is married) met Mr. Wonderful in college. Good. Slightly better odds than in HS or a fucking bar. The third one is dating a guy she met in grad school. Even better. But even with superior breeding and social engineering, there are still decent odds you are going to marry the wrong person. People change, and frankly, nobody really knows anybody until they've seen them react in the trenches.

    The problem with this little trip down reactionary lane with you well-intentioned gentlemen is this: the world in which women stayed home was also a world in which they had little power and influence and were beholden to the men in their lives for the basics of food and shelter, much less a "good life." Next to zero autonomy. Creep's kids will be self-sufficient well into the financial zone of wealth building where Eddie Murphy's "Half!!!!!!!" actually means something.

    But if you want to raise your daughters with that vulnerability, like the Mormons do, go right ahead. We? won't protest.

    So your wife stayed home but its a trip down reactionary lane for others to point out the benefits of it

    That weak shit don't fly here
    It's heavy shit Boomer. It is, in fact, a trip down reactionary lane because it is a trip down reactionary lane. That it is what it is is not something for which to take issue with me. It's not my trip; I didn't book it.*

    I'm just pointing out the downside. A guy your age ought to have piles of anecdotes of women you knew who had to slug it out in a miserable existence at home because it turns out dropping out of the work force for 20 years makes it kinda hard to be on your own economically. You see, I love my kids.

    As to the merits, I hear ya. Mrs. Creep stayed home and my kids are damn near perfect. But the next generation of Creepy Super Zips are going to be even more better off. Grandma Creepy will watch the kids during the day, read them Shakespeare and play classical music all day, and when he feels like it, Grampa Creepy will teach them to golf. AND, my daughters will always be in a position to tell their husbands to go fuck off if they ever get fat and/or lazy and/or otherwise not meet our high standards.

    *This is why the Finance board would do better with this. We? don't take things so personally. You guys get hysterical any time Kobe the Lib posts anything.

    Your motives are pure but others aren't post of the day. If your wife had worked your post would make sense but she stayed home. My wife worked and you're accusing me of what you did. That shit don't fly here. You need a board where no one can question anything because "take it to the tug" if you do.

    My mom wanted to go back to work as we got ready to LEAVE the house and my dad divorced her because of it. And I saw first hand how the credit rating went to the guy who worked all those years and she was treated like a teenager. I saw her attorney, the judge and my dad's attorney play golf with my dad many times. I saw how that worked out in the settlement.

    Don't tell me anything boy. I was there.

    All I said was if its good enough for you its good enough for anyone else here and being reactionary has nothing to do with it
    I went through the same thing with my mom Race. Don't boy me ... my mom couldn't have been more hometowned if she tried. She got more fucked than a French whore during the Nazi occupation. He made it tough on her (and me) to make a point. She worked very hard when we left, but women weren't exactly running the show in the workforce in those days, and the early days were rough while she figured out what she would do. Fortunately, Mama Creep is a smart go-getter (what else would you expect?) and we got by ... barely.

    I see no hypocrisy on my part here. I pointed out there's a downside to staying at home, and there is. Let's see how many others on team Kobe-Hunter Goon Squad put their money where their mouths are and counsel their daughters to stay home for 10 or 15 or 20 years ... especially today and how fast things change. Or in @BearsWiin 's case, his sons.

    Yeah, my wife stayed home. But I'm not the guy here who is going to prosecute every point based solely on what I did. You've got your Team Tug drinking buddies for that; you don't need another one.

    There is nothing wrong with considering multiple sides of an issue. You should be thanking me for breaking up the party once in a while. It's a gift and a service.

  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,640
    SFGbob said:

    thechatch said:

    thechatch said:

    Here’s the thing that shit-ass millennials and Gen Zers need to get through their heads.

    When you’re young, you’re poor and you’re expected to work your ass off in order to succeed and eventually provide for a family. Not everyone makes it. Not everyone is talented, or organized, or driven, or intelligent enough to reach the kinds of success that capitalism and the American way of life can produce.

    That said, the opportunity exists, and instead of whining and bitching like little children over free healthcare and debt forgiveness, it would benefit everyone if these people in TKS’ demo would simply shut the fuck up, pick up a lunch box, and go out and try to do something besides waxing philosophical on Twitter for a change.

    We all had to do it. There’s no fucking earthly reason why you shouldn’t, at our expense. Every generation in the history of the American experience has had to have the come to Jesus talk from those prior, but it seems very apparent you’ve taken the intellectually dishonest pandering by leftist media too seriously, and, instead of that sentinel talk from your parents leading toward work ethic, innovation, and new industry, it’s led to “Ok, Boomer” while you hold up your selfie stick for the Instagram post that you hope leads toward a “career” as an influencer or whatever.

    So, fuck your debt forgiveness and your free healthcare, and your universal basic income, and your green new deal. Go get a job and do some fucking work. We are wholly uninterested in sacrificing decades of labor and sacrifice so that you don’t have to pay off your degrees in sociology or art history.

    HTH

    I’m sure that felt really good to write but facts don’t care about your feelings.

    Millennials have 5% of the wealth in this country, at the same point boomers had 21%. We did not all go through this. But yeah man it’s about selfie sticks and avocado toast. We are wholly uninterested in taking advice from two generations that were handed great economy’s and ran them into the ground.
    Yet here you are with your hand out like a 6 year old, crying gimme gimme gimme. How old are you? Where did you go to school again? What degree program? What do you do for work?

    Why can’t you get your own health insurance? Why do you need someone else to pay your student loans? Why do you need the government to provide you with an income?

    We never asked for any of that shit. What makes you so fucking special?
    Medicare For All and cancelling student debt will not benefit me at all. My choice to support those policies is based on what will most benefit the people and economy of this country, both in the short term and the long term.

    You didn’t ask for any of that shit because you didn’t have to.
    Most people I know, even here, even Race, want a healthcare system that will work and this is reasonably affordable. "Work" is the operative word. It's just proven to be a difficult nut to solve.

    Student loans is easy ... (1) Do NOT forgive them; and (2) get the government out of the student loan business.

    I'll pick this up on the Finance board. Feel free to stop by and hang out for a while. They'll be begging you to come back here inside of a week.
    So get the government out of the student loan biz, and in even deeper to the healthcare biz?
    I didn't say that.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,640
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    My wife quit work and stayed home to raise the kids. Wouldn't change that and I heartily recommend mom's at home. I don't want other people raising my kids! They could have turned out like HH or something.

    Yeah, who wants wealthy kids anyway?
    Money isn't everything. I'd rather my kids had character and integrity, traits you're completely void of.
    No; but it's a lot of things.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915
    edited March 2021

    SFGbob said:

    thechatch said:

    thechatch said:

    Here’s the thing that shit-ass millennials and Gen Zers need to get through their heads.

    When you’re young, you’re poor and you’re expected to work your ass off in order to succeed and eventually provide for a family. Not everyone makes it. Not everyone is talented, or organized, or driven, or intelligent enough to reach the kinds of success that capitalism and the American way of life can produce.

    That said, the opportunity exists, and instead of whining and bitching like little children over free healthcare and debt forgiveness, it would benefit everyone if these people in TKS’ demo would simply shut the fuck up, pick up a lunch box, and go out and try to do something besides waxing philosophical on Twitter for a change.

    We all had to do it. There’s no fucking earthly reason why you shouldn’t, at our expense. Every generation in the history of the American experience has had to have the come to Jesus talk from those prior, but it seems very apparent you’ve taken the intellectually dishonest pandering by leftist media too seriously, and, instead of that sentinel talk from your parents leading toward work ethic, innovation, and new industry, it’s led to “Ok, Boomer” while you hold up your selfie stick for the Instagram post that you hope leads toward a “career” as an influencer or whatever.

    So, fuck your debt forgiveness and your free healthcare, and your universal basic income, and your green new deal. Go get a job and do some fucking work. We are wholly uninterested in sacrificing decades of labor and sacrifice so that you don’t have to pay off your degrees in sociology or art history.

    HTH

    I’m sure that felt really good to write but facts don’t care about your feelings.

    Millennials have 5% of the wealth in this country, at the same point boomers had 21%. We did not all go through this. But yeah man it’s about selfie sticks and avocado toast. We are wholly uninterested in taking advice from two generations that were handed great economy’s and ran them into the ground.
    Yet here you are with your hand out like a 6 year old, crying gimme gimme gimme. How old are you? Where did you go to school again? What degree program? What do you do for work?

    Why can’t you get your own health insurance? Why do you need someone else to pay your student loans? Why do you need the government to provide you with an income?

    We never asked for any of that shit. What makes you so fucking special?
    Medicare For All and cancelling student debt will not benefit me at all. My choice to support those policies is based on what will most benefit the people and economy of this country, both in the short term and the long term.

    You didn’t ask for any of that shit because you didn’t have to.
    Most people I know, even here, even Race, want a healthcare system that will work and this is reasonably affordable. "Work" is the operative word. It's just proven to be a difficult nut to solve.

    Student loans is easy ... (1) Do NOT forgive them; and (2) get the government out of the student loan business.

    I'll pick this up on the Finance board. Feel free to stop by and hang out for a while. They'll be begging you to come back here inside of a week.
    So get the government out of the student loan biz, and in even deeper to the healthcare biz?
    I didn't say that.
    I'm asking a question. You did say you wanted the government out of the Student loan biz but you didn't say what you want the government to do about healthcare.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,915

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    My wife quit work and stayed home to raise the kids. Wouldn't change that and I heartily recommend mom's at home. I don't want other people raising my kids! They could have turned out like HH or something.

    Yeah, who wants wealthy kids anyway?
    Money isn't everything. I'd rather my kids had character and integrity, traits you're completely void of.
    No; but it's a lot of things.
    Few people with good character and integrity will starve in this country.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,640
    edited March 2021
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    thechatch said:

    thechatch said:

    Here’s the thing that shit-ass millennials and Gen Zers need to get through their heads.

    When you’re young, you’re poor and you’re expected to work your ass off in order to succeed and eventually provide for a family. Not everyone makes it. Not everyone is talented, or organized, or driven, or intelligent enough to reach the kinds of success that capitalism and the American way of life can produce.

    That said, the opportunity exists, and instead of whining and bitching like little children over free healthcare and debt forgiveness, it would benefit everyone if these people in TKS’ demo would simply shut the fuck up, pick up a lunch box, and go out and try to do something besides waxing philosophical on Twitter for a change.

    We all had to do it. There’s no fucking earthly reason why you shouldn’t, at our expense. Every generation in the history of the American experience has had to have the come to Jesus talk from those prior, but it seems very apparent you’ve taken the intellectually dishonest pandering by leftist media too seriously, and, instead of that sentinel talk from your parents leading toward work ethic, innovation, and new industry, it’s led to “Ok, Boomer” while you hold up your selfie stick for the Instagram post that you hope leads toward a “career” as an influencer or whatever.

    So, fuck your debt forgiveness and your free healthcare, and your universal basic income, and your green new deal. Go get a job and do some fucking work. We are wholly uninterested in sacrificing decades of labor and sacrifice so that you don’t have to pay off your degrees in sociology or art history.

    HTH

    I’m sure that felt really good to write but facts don’t care about your feelings.

    Millennials have 5% of the wealth in this country, at the same point boomers had 21%. We did not all go through this. But yeah man it’s about selfie sticks and avocado toast. We are wholly uninterested in taking advice from two generations that were handed great economy’s and ran them into the ground.
    Yet here you are with your hand out like a 6 year old, crying gimme gimme gimme. How old are you? Where did you go to school again? What degree program? What do you do for work?

    Why can’t you get your own health insurance? Why do you need someone else to pay your student loans? Why do you need the government to provide you with an income?

    We never asked for any of that shit. What makes you so fucking special?
    Medicare For All and cancelling student debt will not benefit me at all. My choice to support those policies is based on what will most benefit the people and economy of this country, both in the short term and the long term.

    You didn’t ask for any of that shit because you didn’t have to.
    Most people I know, even here, even Race, want a healthcare system that will work and this is reasonably affordable. "Work" is the operative word. It's just proven to be a difficult nut to solve.

    Student loans is easy ... (1) Do NOT forgive them; and (2) get the government out of the student loan business.

    I'll pick this up on the Finance board. Feel free to stop by and hang out for a while. They'll be begging you to come back here inside of a week.
    So get the government out of the student loan biz, and in even deeper to the healthcare biz?
    I didn't say that.
    I'm asking a question. You did say you wanted the government out of the Student loan biz.
    Yes, and we've talked about why that should be.

    Healthcare is a different animal. If you're healthy, you can work and save for tuition and then maybe borrow privately to finance a portion of your education. If there's less gov't subsidy, the schools will undoubtedly become more affordable. And, you don't have to go to college. You can be wildly successful without it.

    If you're not healthy and can't get healthy, you'll die or be incapacitated and won't be able to do shit and we'll have to either (1) take care of your or (2) walk over your corpse in the street on our way to work.

    Where I think I last left off on that discussion was, I don't have any great ideas. I recognize the inefficiency of government and I don't like the idea of death squad committees and reduced quality of care and all of that. I also recognize, or at least assume, that many people would be completely fucked without some kind of assistance to afford medical care when they are clearly in the statistical category of being uninsurable. I think about my FIL now, and how fucked he'd be w/o Medicare. And we are now in that fun process of getting smart about how you go from Medicare to Medicaid (asset sell-downs and all that related shit) to qualify for nursing home care, which is where he's headed.

    My official position on healthcare is, I don't know. I assume part of the reason we haven't resolved it as an issue in society is because it's a tough one and there's no consensus about what to do.
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    Too bad you guys built an economy where both people in a couple have to work.

    Given Tim’s previous comments, blaming feminism for why he can’t get laid, I wouldn’t take much of what he has to say here seriously.

    Yeah, it’s not easy for my wife and I to pay for our kids’ school, our retirements, and the retirement of every PERS pension in Oregon and federal employees. Now with the Rat’s public pension Covid bailout plan, we get to also secure the retirements for public workers in other failed stated like NY and CA.

    You’re a fookin idiot with zero life experience.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,751 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2021

    thechatch said:

    Sledog said:

    My wife quit work and stayed home to raise the kids. Wouldn't change that and I heartily recommend mom's at home. I don't want other people raising my kids! They could have turned out like HH or something.

    We still raise our kids, and it’s going to be easier to have more daytime interaction with them with the shift toward work from home. Both my parents worked and I was kind of a latchkey kid, but I played sports from the time I was 5 years old(soccer/baseball/football/basketball) and we did weekend activities starting at age 2(skiing/hiking/camping/fishing) . It’s really about daytime/school/activities during the week. They need to be involved in sports and ECs and those need to be prioritized over playing Xbox or watching TV. Same as it’s ever been.
    You played soccer? Damn. Sorry.

    And, no offense, but one of my screening questions for all male suitors of Creepy's brood of beauties is whether they were latchkey kids growing up. Many were turned away on that basis alone.

    I give no fucks on whether those trying to seduce my daughters were latchkey kids.

    I want to see tax returns, W-2s and trust account statements.

  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,640
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    My wife quit work and stayed home to raise the kids. Wouldn't change that and I heartily recommend mom's at home. I don't want other people raising my kids! They could have turned out like HH or something.

    Yeah, who wants wealthy kids anyway?
    Money isn't everything. I'd rather my kids had character and integrity, traits you're completely void of.
    No; but it's a lot of things.
    Few people with good character and integrity will starve in this country.
    Yeah, sure. Starving isn't my baseline. Money solves a lot of problems. And contrary to what the Beattles say, it can buy you love too. In fact, lots of it.
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    My wife quit work and stayed home to raise the kids. Wouldn't change that and I heartily recommend mom's at home. I don't want other people raising my kids! They could have turned out like HH or something.

    Yeah, who wants wealthy kids anyway?
    Hunter Biden says hello. He’s not a Drumpf though so let’s bash Don Jr. for trophy hunting.

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