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As long as your condo isn't in downtown Seattle and/or a 1 bedroom, I'm happy to put it on the market for you and prove Redfin wrong. That's what I'm happy to do.DerekJohnson said:
My condo had dropped in value by $17,000, according to RedfinYellowSnow said:
Looking at Zillow now. Is there a law that every home has to be pueblo influenced architecture?DerekJohnson said:
It has cooled offYellowSnow said:
Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good when it comes to real estate.Doog_de_Jour said:
Seriously. I feel like relocating anywhere is like chess...you have to be two or three steps ahead of your opponent in real estate or else you get squeezed out.creepycoug said:@pawz you're up. This is your area ese.
As much as I’m trying to be more dispassionate about this stuff, my heart does go out to the locals who have lived (and invested) in these communities. Just as they’re ready to buy their first home a bunch of rich pricks swoop in from out of state. And as the article states, it’s not like their wages are being adjusted for the higher cost of living. Seattlities are doing the very thing to other cities that was done to them a few decades ago.
I keep trying to divine where is the next hot spot going to be among the medium size towns. Seems like anything within 45 mins of a GA airport and having good outdoor recreation amenities is long since discovered. How are prices in Taos @DerekJohnson ? -
Lots to unpack here ... but I'ma gonna only pick 3 ...YellowSnow said:
That people are on the move is no surprise. Covid really changed how the 'haves' commute and choose where to live. No doubt.
Redfin. El oh El. I'll never take seriously the advice or 'market perspective' offered by a Redfin agent. Roflcopters.
I'll concede a data scientist writing from the hard data on their backend servers is chintereseting perspective, but any sort of advice from run of the mill broker? Fuck right Off with that nonsense.
True story, I was showing a home in Medina literally 4 blocks from BG3 and the Redfin agent and buyer started having a spirited discussion on whether Medina Elementary was in the Bellevue School District. I couldn't handle it anymore. In a slightly more polite manner, I put my foot down to say YES YOU FUCKING MORON (Redfin Agent), OF COURSE IT'S BSD. This is seriously elementary shit (no pun intended).
Reading over the charts provided by the data scientists.... I would have lost a left-nut betting that people moving FROM Seattle went anywhere near Cali, let alone LA.
Chinteresting that Seattle's inflow is mostly from DENVER???!! I haven't run into a single fucking person moving here from Denver. Not a one. In fairness we cater to the Big Tech segment of the market, however again I would have bet heavily on the inflow coming FROM the SFO/Bay area.
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The amount of “never texans” asking me neighborhood/school advice while they browse from Portland, socal, Seattle has gone from zero to about 10 in the last 6 months.
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Spare bedroom in the trailer is open. By "spare bedroom" I mean fold down kitchen table.Doog_de_Jour said:
As one of the people who previously predicted Seattle’s DOOM.gif, you might be right. Rents are dropping and the light rail will be coming. Who knows? I think for you @creepycoug it’s smart to let it ride.creepycoug said:I know it's not fun to use as an example, but I believe in Seattle bouncing back and will stay long here. I know I'm going to move someday, but the days of me relocating and finding another job at the same level and comp. as what I have here are behind me. I have entertained a couple of recruiters and almost bit on two offers, but ultimately decided fuck it, I'll stay and finish here.
My reasons to relocate aren’t financial...I’ve just lived here too long and desperately want a change. -
Come to West Virginia with me. I'll take you deer hunting.creepycoug said:
I feel you sista. I've been itching to get out for a while, even if ostensibly Seattle has much going for it. The weather has tended to bother me more as I age.Doog_de_Jour said:
As one of the people who previously predicted Seattle’s DOOM.gif, you might be right. Rents are dropping and the light rail will be coming. Who knows? I think for you @creepycoug it’s smart to let it ride.creepycoug said:I know it's not fun to use as an example, but I believe in Seattle bouncing back and will stay long here. I know I'm going to move someday, but the days of me relocating and finding another job at the same level and comp. as what I have here are behind me. I have entertained a couple of recruiters and almost bit on two offers, but ultimately decided fuck it, I'll stay and finish here.
My reasons to relocate aren’t financial...I’ve just lived here too long and desperately want a change.
With the kids going to school back east, I have done extensive travel ... not just to the big obvious spots, but all around following them in sports. I've been all over western Mass, all over upstate NY, all over Connecticut and this past summer all around Rhode Island and the coast. There are a lot of cool places to live back there and, if you stay out of upstate NY, you get better weather. Hear me out before lol'ing at me. Yeah, the winters are more harsh and last longer ... but you see blue sky and sun MUCH more often than you do here, and I have found that matters to me. I can handle the cold despite my swarthy genetics; I just need to see the fucking sky at least 3 times a week.
Cali is wonderful but as I've reported previously, it's not my vibe. In terms of places I've felt I could move to and be happy, many are in greater New England. Boston is the shit, but way too fucking expensive. It's like a half-click more pricey than here. But Providence is really nice. New Port is super nice (but spendy). Hartford, eh, not so much. But there are a lot of smaller towns that are close enough to the cities in NE that you could choose from. There are a shit load of them on the Connecticut southern coast along Long Island Sound, and RI is full of waterfront. I also really like Western Mass. Any of those college towns, like Amherst, Northampton, etc. would do. Saratoga Springs may just be the coolest small town I've been to anywhere, but the weather is different in upstate than it is in New England proper. It's a lot like here with the grey, only way harsher. Of course the problem with New England are the taxes unless you're in New Hampshire. They don't call it Taxachussetts for nothing. -
If I ever move away from Texas I’m probably heading back to Nashville or somewhere in North Carolina. Beautiful areas...seasons...low tax...and generally more laid back folks than most areas. Heard New Mexico is nice as well but only driven through it.
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@pawz do you see a trend that the Redfins and Zillows over- or underestimate values? Or is it just random all-over-the-place shit?pawz said:
Lots to unpack here ... but I'ma gonna only pick 3 ...YellowSnow said:
That people are on the move is no surprise. Covid really changed how the 'haves' commute and choose where to live. No doubt.
Redfin. El oh El. I'll never take seriously the advice or 'market perspective' offered by a Redfin agent. Roflcopters.
I'll concede a data scientist writing from the hard data on their backend servers is chintereseting perspective, but any sort of advice from run of the mill broker? Fuck right Off with that nonsense.
True story, I was showing a home in Medina literally 4 blocks from BG3 and the Redfin agent and buyer started having a spirited discussion on whether Medina Elementary was in the Bellevue School District. I couldn't handle it anymore. In a slightly more polite manner, I put my foot down to say YES YOU FUCKING MORON (Redfin Agent), OF COURSE IT'S BSD. This is seriously elementary shit (no pun intended).
Reading over the charts provided by the data scientists.... I would have lost a left-nut betting that people moving FROM Seattle went anywhere near Cali, let alone LA.
Chinteresting that Seattle's inflow is mostly from DENVER???!! I haven't run into a single fucking person moving here from Denver. Not a one. In fairness we cater to the Big Tech segment of the market, however again I would have bet heavily on the inflow coming FROM the SFO/Bay area. -
If it's a cookie cutter, track neighborhood sure.gif ...creepycoug said:
@pawz do you see a trend that the Redfins and Zillows over- or underestimate values? Or is it just random all-over-the-place shit?pawz said:
Lots to unpack here ... but I'ma gonna only pick 3 ...YellowSnow said:
That people are on the move is no surprise. Covid really changed how the 'haves' commute and choose where to live. No doubt.
Redfin. El oh El. I'll never take seriously the advice or 'market perspective' offered by a Redfin agent. Roflcopters.
I'll concede a data scientist writing from the hard data on their backend servers is chintereseting perspective, but any sort of advice from run of the mill broker? Fuck right Off with that nonsense.
True story, I was showing a home in Medina literally 4 blocks from BG3 and the Redfin agent and buyer started having a spirited discussion on whether Medina Elementary was in the Bellevue School District. I couldn't handle it anymore. In a slightly more polite manner, I put my foot down to say YES YOU FUCKING MORON (Redfin Agent), OF COURSE IT'S BSD. This is seriously elementary shit (no pun intended).
Reading over the charts provided by the data scientists.... I would have lost a left-nut betting that people moving FROM Seattle went anywhere near Cali, let alone LA.
Chinteresting that Seattle's inflow is mostly from DENVER???!! I haven't run into a single fucking person moving here from Denver. Not a one. In fairness we cater to the Big Tech segment of the market, however again I would have bet heavily on the inflow coming FROM the SFO/Bay area.
If there is a ton of variety, custom like West Bellevue? GTFO...
My experience is its usually not accurate and it causes major head aches when Sellers wonder why we told them a number lower....
Cheap quip o' the Day: Its a Zestimate, not a Zappraisal -
I like that. I think that Zestimated range doesn't seem to be to off the mark. We? listed out Seattle home at the low end of the Zestimate and it sold for the high end of the Zestimate. Single family homes in King Country should be priced to be under contract within in 7 days of listing. If it takes more than this, your a greedy jack ass with a crappy agent.pawz said:
If it's a cookie cutter, track neighborhood sure.gif ...creepycoug said:
@pawz do you see a trend that the Redfins and Zillows over- or underestimate values? Or is it just random all-over-the-place shit?pawz said:
Lots to unpack here ... but I'ma gonna only pick 3 ...YellowSnow said:
That people are on the move is no surprise. Covid really changed how the 'haves' commute and choose where to live. No doubt.
Redfin. El oh El. I'll never take seriously the advice or 'market perspective' offered by a Redfin agent. Roflcopters.
I'll concede a data scientist writing from the hard data on their backend servers is chintereseting perspective, but any sort of advice from run of the mill broker? Fuck right Off with that nonsense.
True story, I was showing a home in Medina literally 4 blocks from BG3 and the Redfin agent and buyer started having a spirited discussion on whether Medina Elementary was in the Bellevue School District. I couldn't handle it anymore. In a slightly more polite manner, I put my foot down to say YES YOU FUCKING MORON (Redfin Agent), OF COURSE IT'S BSD. This is seriously elementary shit (no pun intended).
Reading over the charts provided by the data scientists.... I would have lost a left-nut betting that people moving FROM Seattle went anywhere near Cali, let alone LA.
Chinteresting that Seattle's inflow is mostly from DENVER???!! I haven't run into a single fucking person moving here from Denver. Not a one. In fairness we cater to the Big Tech segment of the market, however again I would have bet heavily on the inflow coming FROM the SFO/Bay area.
If there is a ton of variety, custom like West Bellevue? GTFO...
My experience is its usually not accurate and it causes major head aches when Sellers wonder why we told them a number lower....
Cheap quip o' the Day: Its a Zestimate, not a Zappraisal -
I wouldn't have bet LA either. But Cali, when I think about it, makes some sense. As a general rule, people in the PNW like California. It's a beautiful state, and the weather is fucking nailz. But, it has a $$ problem that keeps a lot us? up here in the rain.pawz said:
Lots to unpack here ... but I'ma gonna only pick 3 ...YellowSnow said:
That people are on the move is no surprise. Covid really changed how the 'haves' commute and choose where to live. No doubt.
Redfin. El oh El. I'll never take seriously the advice or 'market perspective' offered by a Redfin agent. Roflcopters.
I'll concede a data scientist writing from the hard data on their backend servers is chintereseting perspective, but any sort of advice from run of the mill broker? Fuck right Off with that nonsense.
True story, I was showing a home in Medina literally 4 blocks from BG3 and the Redfin agent and buyer started having a spirited discussion on whether Medina Elementary was in the Bellevue School District. I couldn't handle it anymore. In a slightly more polite manner, I put my foot down to say YES YOU FUCKING MORON (Redfin Agent), OF COURSE IT'S BSD. This is seriously elementary shit (no pun intended).
Reading over the charts provided by the data scientists.... I would have lost a left-nut betting that people moving FROM Seattle went anywhere near Cali, let alone LA.
Chinteresting that Seattle's inflow is mostly from DENVER???!! I haven't run into a single fucking person moving here from Denver. Not a one. In fairness we cater to the Big Tech segment of the market, however again I would have bet heavily on the inflow coming FROM the SFO/Bay area.
With crazy low interest rates and some ability to maybe take advantage of pricing by being a contrarian, I can see people saying, "It's now or never" to make a move, especially to So Cal.
