Promote Gregory to DC?
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He's landed Quentin Moore, Chance Bogan, kept Cade for another year, has shown promise and effort on the recruiting trail, and can clearly coach. I'd give him a solid grade for the 9 months he's been TE coach.insinceredawg said:
Best TE room? We have Cade for one more year and a bunch of unproven guys. The only big recruiting win Cato's gotten turned out to be a methhead.CallMeBigErn said:
Other than the fact that we have one of the best TE rooms in the country? Give Paopao some credit, but give Cato credit too.Tequilla said:
And what evidence is there that Cato's worth a damn other than he finishes in the Top 3 often?CallMeBigErn said:Hot take. Gregory is going to be pretty much identical to Coach K as DC. If you liked Coach K, you should be okay with this move. It takes Gregory off the recruiting trail somewhat, which is a positive. I will accept debates about hiring a QC guy as DL coach, but that has worked out pretty good for Cato. I'm in LIPO mode.
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They called me but I told them I had bugs to kill.hardhat said: -
Paopao/Garbers landed Redman. Cato was hired after Redman was already signed.Tequilla said:
We don't have one of the best TE rooms in the country ... that's pretty damn comicalCallMeBigErn said:
Other than the fact that we have one of the best TE rooms in the country? Give Paopao some credit, but give Cato credit too.Tequilla said:
And what evidence is there that Cato's worth a damn other than he finishes in the Top 3 often?CallMeBigErn said:Hot take. Gregory is going to be pretty much identical to Coach K as DC. If you liked Coach K, you should be okay with this move. It takes Gregory off the recruiting trail somewhat, which is a positive. I will accept debates about hiring a QC guy as DL coach, but that has worked out pretty good for Cato. I'm in LIPO mode.
Cade's great but the reality is that he's a local kid that any kind of competent recruiter could have and should have kept at UW.
I'll give credit for getting Redman on board ... he should be a stud. But at this point, he's all potential and no real substance.
And for those quick to say "yeah but" on the Redman comment, rewind 2 years ago and those comments would have been said about Culp who has gone from a "wait until you see what he's going to do" to a "decent part of the rotation but his limitations catching the ball effectively turn him into a high end JAG" type of player to date.
Cato hasn't done jack shit. -
Also, this program is such a low rent joke. Let Jimmy cook? sure.gif. I mean yeah, maybe the meal tastes delicious, but here is a live look at Jimmys kitchen right now:
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Yeah, but still.insinceredawg said:
Paopao/Garbers landed Redman. Cato was hired after Redman was already signed.Tequilla said:
We don't have one of the best TE rooms in the country ... that's pretty damn comicalCallMeBigErn said:
Other than the fact that we have one of the best TE rooms in the country? Give Paopao some credit, but give Cato credit too.Tequilla said:
And what evidence is there that Cato's worth a damn other than he finishes in the Top 3 often?CallMeBigErn said:Hot take. Gregory is going to be pretty much identical to Coach K as DC. If you liked Coach K, you should be okay with this move. It takes Gregory off the recruiting trail somewhat, which is a positive. I will accept debates about hiring a QC guy as DL coach, but that has worked out pretty good for Cato. I'm in LIPO mode.
Cade's great but the reality is that he's a local kid that any kind of competent recruiter could have and should have kept at UW.
I'll give credit for getting Redman on board ... he should be a stud. But at this point, he's all potential and no real substance.
And for those quick to say "yeah but" on the Redman comment, rewind 2 years ago and those comments would have been said about Culp who has gone from a "wait until you see what he's going to do" to a "decent part of the rotation but his limitations catching the ball effectively turn him into a high end JAG" type of player to date.
Cato hasn't done jack shit. -
I am failing to see why this is a negative?insinceredawg said:
Best TE room? We have Cade for one more year and a bunch of unproven guys. The only big recruiting win Cato's gotten turned out to be a methhead.CallMeBigErn said:
Other than the fact that we have one of the best TE rooms in the country? Give Paopao some credit, but give Cato credit too.Tequilla said:
And what evidence is there that Cato's worth a damn other than he finishes in the Top 3 often?CallMeBigErn said:Hot take. Gregory is going to be pretty much identical to Coach K as DC. If you liked Coach K, you should be okay with this move. It takes Gregory off the recruiting trail somewhat, which is a positive. I will accept debates about hiring a QC guy as DL coach, but that has worked out pretty good for Cato. I'm in LIPO mode.
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Cade stayed because he didn't have enough film on him to get a high enough pick this year to make it worth the while ... coming back and he'll very likely be an easy Top 2 round guy. It makes sense.CallMeBigErn said:
He's landed Quentin Moore, Chance Bogan, kept Cade for another year, has shown promise and effort on the recruiting trail, and can clearly coach. I'd give him a solid grade for the 9 months he's been TE coach.insinceredawg said:
Best TE room? We have Cade for one more year and a bunch of unproven guys. The only big recruiting win Cato's gotten turned out to be a methhead.CallMeBigErn said:
Other than the fact that we have one of the best TE rooms in the country? Give Paopao some credit, but give Cato credit too.Tequilla said:
And what evidence is there that Cato's worth a damn other than he finishes in the Top 3 often?CallMeBigErn said:Hot take. Gregory is going to be pretty much identical to Coach K as DC. If you liked Coach K, you should be okay with this move. It takes Gregory off the recruiting trail somewhat, which is a positive. I will accept debates about hiring a QC guy as DL coach, but that has worked out pretty good for Cato. I'm in LIPO mode.
Moore was a local kid that while I am optimistic on it being a good get we need to be realistic at what we're doing here. Moore is hopefully a high end guy that is getting brought in to fill gaps in recruiting that effectively didn't pan out for a few years. He wasn't the highest TE on the board last year for us and we missed on the higher targets.
Bogan looks like he's a nice prospect and I look forward to seeing his development. Keeping local players home is a sign of competence vs being a disaster. For me to view a coach as being pretty good or better, you need to start winning recruiting battles against programs that are above your weight class and/or kids from out of the area that you're competing against at least relatively peer schools. Scott Huff is worth a damn. Cato ain't even close to that level at this point. -
This + recruiting has been subpar. Couch sale szn is upon us.dnc said:
He looks okay though I'd say the jury is still out.CallMeBigErn said:
Cato has looked like a pretty damn good internal promotion from quality control. LIPO.dnc said:Not only did we promote the shit LB coach to DC, we promoted the "defensive quality control" guy to DL coach.
No creativity. No effort. NOGAF.
Jimmy has made four staff hires since he's been HC (and multiple moves within the staff.
Jon Donovan
Terrence Brown
Two internal quality control coaches
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Was more of a generic "as a program we got him on board" and the reality with the timing of Paopao leaving, if you recall there was a lot of uncertainty when Pete left and efforts to make sure that everybody was kept in that class. So I'll give credit for being able to keep Redman from going elsewhere.insinceredawg said:
Paopao/Garbers landed Redman. Cato was hired after Redman was already signed.Tequilla said:
We don't have one of the best TE rooms in the country ... that's pretty damn comicalCallMeBigErn said:
Other than the fact that we have one of the best TE rooms in the country? Give Paopao some credit, but give Cato credit too.Tequilla said:
And what evidence is there that Cato's worth a damn other than he finishes in the Top 3 often?CallMeBigErn said:Hot take. Gregory is going to be pretty much identical to Coach K as DC. If you liked Coach K, you should be okay with this move. It takes Gregory off the recruiting trail somewhat, which is a positive. I will accept debates about hiring a QC guy as DL coach, but that has worked out pretty good for Cato. I'm in LIPO mode.
Cade's great but the reality is that he's a local kid that any kind of competent recruiter could have and should have kept at UW.
I'll give credit for getting Redman on board ... he should be a stud. But at this point, he's all potential and no real substance.
And for those quick to say "yeah but" on the Redman comment, rewind 2 years ago and those comments would have been said about Culp who has gone from a "wait until you see what he's going to do" to a "decent part of the rotation but his limitations catching the ball effectively turn him into a high end JAG" type of player to date.
Cato hasn't done jack shit.
Other than that, there's nothing to really view at this point other than Redman looks to be a good looking prospect that is in a spot to take the torch from Cade in 2022. -
Tryon came out in support of Rip Rowan, so he at least has that going for him.
Has any player come out in support of Gregory at this point? Ariel Ngata seemed to subtweet the hiring with laughing emojis, but I have yet to see support from any players.
