Total disconnect from the AD on all fronts... They are not going to lift a finger unless there's a huge drop-off in doogs buying season tickets and merchandise. They are very much business-minded about the whole thing and just living in the moment. They don't even treat Oregon like a rival, as they have emotionally detached themselves from that concept. They've enjoyed the doogdom that lives within many of our fans, because of the success in the 80's and early 90's. That won't last long as old doogs will eventually die off or they'll get jaded and walk away (which is what happened to me). There's only so much of mediocre play and losing to the same teams (Cal, Stanford, & Oregon) in the same stupid fashion a fan can take. It's obvious that the AD doesn't hold the coaches accountable.
The UW AD surrendered a long time ago. Years ago, on doogman, there was discussion of the Marinerization of Husky football. Well, the process is complete. Competing for championships is hard and it also raises expectations. Why bother with that. It's hard! As long as your fanbase keeps spending their money on tickets, replica jerseys, and donations, all is well. Just enough revenue to keep things running.
Quite honestly, I have many other things I can spend my money on and they are all a hell of a lot more fun than Husky football. Detaching myself from this program has also been good for my psyche.
Fuck this team, fuck the AD, fuck the upper campus, fuck Seattle, and fuck King County. We'll never have the type of championship caliber football team that we expect with the clownshow "leadership" on all levels.
We were in the playoff FOUR years ago. Its possible to look at a situation objectively without dooging
But we? failed to improve upon that. Never mind losing the big bowl games. Losing conference games, often to the same teams multiple years in a row doesn't help with building any kind of momentum for the program. Wins get fans excited. Wins also bring recruits.
The "oh well, we went out there and tried hard" feeling that comes from the coaches and the AD is tiresome.
Improve? You mean win a natty? Not every year is going to be your best year and this was never going to be it. The fact that anyone is making judgments on this season is ridiculous with covid new hc oc and qb with a young lineup. All that and we lost 1 game to a decent team
Not looking solely at this season. Looking at the history of this program in the past 30 years...
There's a mediocre/loser mentality that permeates UWAD.
As went Mike Lude & Don James, so did accountability and the will to win.
It's fucking over! It's been over coming up on 30 years. The upper campus can't stomach a winning football team.
I am longtime season-ticket holder and am considering penning a similar letter. Mainly, I am "this close" to giving up the tickets to send a message to Jimmy about hiring JohnDon and retaining Bob and Boner, etc.
But to play a bit of devil's advocate, I'm genuinely curious how Jimmy and Jen could have responded differently this year.
Jimmy was one of the hottest coaching assistants out there. Hiring him to be HC and instill some much-needed energy seemed like a no-brainer. Could we have attracted someone better? Maybe? Probably not. Seemed like a natural successor. And we've all been begging for an arrogant alpha, rather than a technocratic beta accountant. I fucking loved him swinging his dick around at midcourt during the bball game, talking up the 2020 class and talking to the 2021 class. We haven't had that swagger back up by results since the Neu years.
I know Jen reveres Pete and rightly so, but you can't fault her for hiring Jimmy. Hell, Pete clearly knew he was done and the program needed a shot in the arm. You think Pete would endorse Jimmy if he was a disorganized Sark-like mess?
That said, was she supposed to micromanage him and tell him that his head coach hiring was contingent on firing Bob and Will and Boner? And hiring Kellen Moore and Gerald Alexander? I just don't see any AD doing that. Maybe I'm naive, but what HC would allow an AD to tell him what RBs coach to fire/hire unless there was some egregious behavior?
Aside from the retentions/hires, Jimmy brought instant energy to the program. And then it quickly fizzled. I have to think it was all COVID-related. Just think if he was actually able to live out his vision of promoting the Spring Game and bringing in recruits. I'm not giving him a pass while others' recruited their fucking faces off with competent, likable coaches. But it's a hell of a position for a first-time HC.
As for the season itself, you know Jen and Jimmy abhor Larry Scott as much as the rest of us. Think how many letters she's fielded about #FireLarryScott over the years from disgruntled season-ticket holders bitching about 8pm kickoffs. Furthermore, you don't think Jimmy realizes how second-rate the conference has become? So they had to play. And they wanted to play as originally scheduled, but when you have the brightest medical minds in the country talking about COVID-related heart conditions, what's Jimmy supposed to say? "Nah, they're just being too cautious. We can control this and we got it." This isn't the fucking myopic South.
Look, I hate the JohnDon hire and subsequent "Bo Schembechler" scheme. I hate Bob. I hate Jimmy's Pete Jr. personality when it comes to benching some dudes and not playing talent other spots. I hate how unexcited I am about signing day. The fact we lost Emeka and JTT is so disheartening. Yes, it feels like this year was make or break to right the ship after the most underwhelming 2019 season in recent Husky history. But it's a fucking pandemic. I guess I just don't know where to start in criticizing Jen for Jimmy's decision-making this season. Hell, more than half of this bored was chugging the Jimmy Comeback Kool-Aid post-Utah. Tell me how a better AD could have navigated 2020 from the start of the Lake Era to now. I'm ready to write the letter. I just need more understanding before I can blindly criticize what is arguably the most difficult situation for any CEO and business/department to navigate...ever.
And yet Oregon and USC are tanned rested and ready
Every other school fucked up or USC and Oregon are SERIOUS about football
My sarcastic Covid related reply would be a better fit for the Tug.
Well why don't you take it there then???!!!
Oregon is the most serious about football school in the Pac and it's not close right now. It's too bad that Bill Gates Sr was such a shitty parent and didn't raise his kid right.
I am longtime season-ticket holder and am considering penning a similar letter. Mainly, I am "this close" to giving up the tickets to send a message to Jimmy about hiring JohnDon and retaining Bob and Boner, etc.
But to play a bit of devil's advocate, I'm genuinely curious how Jimmy and Jen could have responded differently this year.
Jimmy was one of the hottest coaching assistants out there. Hiring him to be HC and instill some much-needed energy seemed like a no-brainer. Could we have attracted someone better? Maybe? Probably not. Seemed like a natural successor.
I know Jen reveres Pete and rightly so, but you can't fault her for hiring Jimmy.
That said, was she supposed to micromanage him and tell him that his head coach hiring was contingent on firing Bob and Will and Keith? And hiring Kellen Moore and Gerald Alexander? I just don't see any AD doing that. Maybe I'm naive, but what HC would allow an AD to tell him what RBs coach to fire/hire unless there was some egregious behavior?
Aside from the retentions/hires, Jimmy brought instant energy to the program. And then it quickly fizzled. I have to think it was all COVID-related. Just think if he was actually able to live out his vision of promoting the Spring Game and bringing in recruits. I'm not giving him a pass while others' recruited their fucking faces off with competent, likable coaches. But it's a hell of a position for a first-time HC.
As for the season itself, you know Jen and Jimmy abhor Larry Scott as much as the rest of us. Think how many letters she's fielded about #FireLarryScott over the years from disgruntled season-ticket holders bitching about 8pm kickoffs. Furthermore, you don't think Jimmy realizes how second-rate the conference has become? So they had to play. And they wanted to play as originally scheduled, but when you have the brightest medical minds in the country talking about COVID-related heart conditions, what's Jimmy supposed to say? "Nah, they're just being too cautious. We can control this and we got it." This isn't the fucking myopic South.
Look, I hate the JohnDon hire and subsequent "Bo Schembechler" scheme. I hate Bob. I hate Jimmy's Pete Jr. personality when it comes to benching some dudes and not playing talent other spots. I hate how unexcited I am about signing day. The fact we lost Emeka and JTT is so disheartening. Yes, it feels like this year was make or break to right the ship after the most underwhelming 2019 season in recent Husky history. But it's a fucking pandemic. I guess I just don't know where to start in criticizing Jen for Jimmy's decision-making this season. Hell, more than half of this bored was chugging the Jimmy Comeback Kool-Aid post-Utah. Tell me how a better AD could have navigated 2020 from the start of the Lake Era to now. I'm ready to write the letter. I just need more understanding before I can blindly criticize what is arguably the most difficult situation for any CEO and business/department to navigate...ever.
Very reasonable
At some point this fall I said I wouldn't call for the firing of the coach due to Covid 19 protocols. I was doing well too until we? gave Oregon our spot. Then all the bad memories started to come back.
There was very little UW could do with this hand in this league on this coast. That is fact checked true
But if we are going to bash the myopic south for entertaining me this fall I am out!
I agree with Teq, Yellow & venerable @RaceBannon (as always): The current CCG shitshow is on the conference first, secondarily on UW for supporting it.
Our playoff trip is starting to look like Iowa State in the Big 8 title game
Every 105 years...............
The problem with the playoff team is they didn't really look like they belonged even being pretty damn dominant out west that year
Then the LEVEL UP TO CLEMSON and Pete is a super recruiter bullshit and before you know it you're 8 and 5 with a first year head coach who was a career assistant
There is no plan to sustain the success. iDawg and I railed constantly that it is much easier to stay a loser than to stay a winner and it is HARD to stop being a loser
Give the ducks credit for trashcanning Helfrich and Willie in a hurry so the stench of being a loser didn't set in. Going from Gilby to Ty made us losers and getting excited about Sark proved it
Petersen had one good year and one decent year out of 6. If he's the standard then we still suck
We also lost to USC at home like a second tier team.
People forget we were the tallest midget chosen to be whipped by Bama. People forget that.
Total disconnect from the AD on all fronts... They are not going to lift a finger unless there's a huge drop-off in doogs buying season tickets and merchandise. They are very much business-minded about the whole thing and just living in the moment. They don't even treat Oregon like a rival, as they have emotionally detached themselves from that concept. They've enjoyed the doogdom that lives within many of our fans, because of the success in the 80's and early 90's. That won't last long as old doogs will eventually die off or they'll get jaded and walk away (which is what happened to me). There's only so much of mediocre play and losing to the same teams (Cal, Stanford, & Oregon) in the same stupid fashion a fan can take. It's obvious that the AD doesn't hold the coaches accountable.
The UW AD surrendered a long time ago. Years ago, on doogman, there was discussion of the Marinerization of Husky football. Well, the process is complete. Competing for championships is hard and it also raises expectations. Why bother with that. It's hard! As long as your fanbase keeps spending their money on tickets, replica jerseys, and donations, all is well. Just enough revenue to keep things running.
Quite honestly, I have many other things I can spend my money on and they are all a hell of a lot more fun than Husky football. Detaching myself from this program has also been good for my psyche.
Fuck this team, fuck the AD, fuck the upper campus, fuck Seattle, and fuck King County. We'll never have the type of championship caliber football team that we expect with the clownshow "leadership" on all levels.
We were in the playoff FOUR years ago. Its possible to look at a situation objectively without dooging
But we? failed to improve upon that. Never mind losing the big bowl games. Losing conference games, often to the same teams multiple years in a row doesn't help with building any kind of momentum for the program. Wins get fans excited. Wins also bring recruits.
The "oh well, we went out there and tried hard" feeling that comes from the coaches and the AD is tiresome.
Improve? You mean win a natty? Not every year is going to be your best year and this was never going to be it. The fact that anyone is making judgments on this season is ridiculous with covid new hc oc and qb with a young lineup. All that and we lost 1 game to a decent team
Not looking solely at this season. Looking at the history of this program in the past 30 years...
There's a mediocre/loser mentality that permeates UWAD.
As went Mike Lude & Don James, so did accountability and the will to win.
It's fucking over! It's been over coming up on 30 years. The upper campus can't stomach a winning football team.
Upper campus has hated winning football teams since WW1. Nothing's changed with us.
Yet we've still had some really good runs at times.
The same shit is happening everywhere, but when people aren't actually sick it gets swept under the rug...in programs and conferences that care about football.
If you're telling me our OL is in the hospital? JFC, obviously no game. But if it's being asymptomatic, and contract tracing is fuckin your team...real football schools know how to take care of it.
...that just isn't UW. In retrospect, it's a big part of why I haven't dooged in more than a decade. I've seen this before, and I ain't impressed by anything they've done.
PS - Jen, you got that Michigan game rescheduled yet...? Yeah, thought so.
Our playoff trip is starting to look like Iowa State in the Big 8 title game
Every 105 years...............
The problem with the playoff team is they didn't really look like they belonged even being pretty damn dominant out west that year
Then the LEVEL UP TO CLEMSON and Pete is a super recruiter bullshit and before you know it you're 8 and 5 with a first year head coach who was a career assistant
There is no plan to sustain the success. iDawg and I railed constantly that it is much easier to stay a loser than to stay a winner and it is HARD to stop being a loser
Give the ducks credit for trashcanning Helfrich and Willie in a hurry so the stench of being a loser didn't set in. Going from Gilby to Ty made us losers and getting excited about Sark proved it
Petersen had one good year and one decent year out of 6. If he's the standard then we still suck
We also lost to USC at home like a second tier team.
People forget we were the tallest midget chosen to be whipped by Bama. People forget that.
Our playoff trip is starting to look like Iowa State in the Big 8 title game
Every 105 years...............
The problem with the playoff team is they didn't really look like they belonged even being pretty damn dominant out west that year
Then the LEVEL UP TO CLEMSON and Pete is a super recruiter bullshit and before you know it you're 8 and 5 with a first year head coach who was a career assistant
There is no plan to sustain the success. iDawg and I railed constantly that it is much easier to stay a loser than to stay a winner and it is HARD to stop being a loser
Give the ducks credit for trashcanning Helfrich and Willie in a hurry so the stench of being a loser didn't set in. Going from Gilby to Ty made us losers and getting excited about Sark proved it
Petersen had one good year and one decent year out of 6. If he's the standard then we still suck
We also lost to USC at home like a second tier team.
People forget we were the tallest midget chosen to be whipped by Bama. People forget that.
I still think we win the semifinal if we somehow got the 3 seed in the 2016 playoff. I know that doesn't make any sense since Clemson beat 'Bama. But 'Bama's defense that year was all-fucking-world. I'm DOOGING, but I know we were better than that Meyer-led Buckeye team.
Total disconnect from the AD on all fronts... They are not going to lift a finger unless there's a huge drop-off in doogs buying season tickets and merchandise. They are very much business-minded about the whole thing and just living in the moment. They don't even treat Oregon like a rival, as they have emotionally detached themselves from that concept. They've enjoyed the doogdom that lives within many of our fans, because of the success in the 80's and early 90's. That won't last long as old doogs will eventually die off or they'll get jaded and walk away (which is what happened to me). There's only so much of mediocre play and losing to the same teams (Cal, Stanford, & Oregon) in the same stupid fashion a fan can take. It's obvious that the AD doesn't hold the coaches accountable.
The UW AD surrendered a long time ago. Years ago, on doogman, there was discussion of the Marinerization of Husky football. Well, the process is complete. Competing for championships is hard and it also raises expectations. Why bother with that. It's hard! As long as your fanbase keeps spending their money on tickets, replica jerseys, and donations, all is well. Just enough revenue to keep things running.
Quite honestly, I have many other things I can spend my money on and they are all a hell of a lot more fun than Husky football. Detaching myself from this program has also been good for my psyche.
Fuck this team, fuck the AD, fuck the upper campus, fuck Seattle, and fuck King County. We'll never have the type of championship caliber football team that we expect with the clownshow "leadership" on all levels.
We were in the playoff FOUR years ago. Its possible to look at a situation objectively without dooging
But we? failed to improve upon that. Never mind losing the big bowl games. Losing conference games, often to the same teams multiple years in a row doesn't help with building any kind of momentum for the program. Wins get fans excited. Wins also bring recruits.
The "oh well, we went out there and tried hard" feeling that comes from the coaches and the AD is tiresome.
Improve? You mean win a natty? Not every year is going to be your best year and this was never going to be it. The fact that anyone is making judgments on this season is ridiculous with covid new hc oc and qb with a young lineup. All that and we lost 1 game to a decent team
Not looking solely at this season. Looking at the history of this program in the past 30 years...
There's a mediocre/loser mentality that permeates UWAD.
As went Mike Lude & Don James, so did accountability and the will to win.
It's fucking over! It's been over coming up on 30 years. The upper campus can't stomach a winning football team.
Upper campus has hated winning football teams since WW1. Nothing's changed with us.
Yet we've still had some really good runs at times.
Name 1 team that has consistently won their conference all time. Every team has down years even an ohio state or bama
Total disconnect from the AD on all fronts... They are not going to lift a finger unless there's a huge drop-off in doogs buying season tickets and merchandise. They are very much business-minded about the whole thing and just living in the moment. They don't even treat Oregon like a rival, as they have emotionally detached themselves from that concept. They've enjoyed the doogdom that lives within many of our fans, because of the success in the 80's and early 90's. That won't last long as old doogs will eventually die off or they'll get jaded and walk away (which is what happened to me). There's only so much of mediocre play and losing to the same teams (Cal, Stanford, & Oregon) in the same stupid fashion a fan can take. It's obvious that the AD doesn't hold the coaches accountable.
The UW AD surrendered a long time ago. Years ago, on doogman, there was discussion of the Marinerization of Husky football. Well, the process is complete. Competing for championships is hard and it also raises expectations. Why bother with that. It's hard! As long as your fanbase keeps spending their money on tickets, replica jerseys, and donations, all is well. Just enough revenue to keep things running.
Quite honestly, I have many other things I can spend my money on and they are all a hell of a lot more fun than Husky football. Detaching myself from this program has also been good for my psyche.
Fuck this team, fuck the AD, fuck the upper campus, fuck Seattle, and fuck King County. We'll never have the type of championship caliber football team that we expect with the clownshow "leadership" on all levels.
We were in the playoff FOUR years ago. Its possible to look at a situation objectively without dooging
But we? failed to improve upon that. Never mind losing the big bowl games. Losing conference games, often to the same teams multiple years in a row doesn't help with building any kind of momentum for the program. Wins get fans excited. Wins also bring recruits.
The "oh well, we went out there and tried hard" feeling that comes from the coaches and the AD is tiresome.
Improve? You mean win a natty? Not every year is going to be your best year and this was never going to be it. The fact that anyone is making judgments on this season is ridiculous with covid new hc oc and qb with a young lineup. All that and we lost 1 game to a decent team
Not looking solely at this season. Looking at the history of this program in the past 30 years...
There's a mediocre/loser mentality that permeates UWAD.
As went Mike Lude & Don James, so did accountability and the will to win.
It's fucking over! It's been over coming up on 30 years. The upper campus can't stomach a winning football team.
Upper campus has hated winning football teams since WW1. Nothing's changed with us.
Yet we've still had some really good runs at times.
Name 1 team that has consistently won their conference all time. Every team has down years even an ohio state or bama
Let's look at the Mt Rushmore of College Football
Alabama - mediocre from 1983 to 2008 with the exception of beating @creepycoug in 1992.
Ohio State - No Natty from 1969 to 2001. Lost to Michigan like 9 years straight.
Notre Dame - not really elite from 1992 on. Last Natty in 1988. Could this be the year for @GrundleStiltzkin ? Prolly not.
Our playoff trip is starting to look like Iowa State in the Big 8 title game
Every 105 years...............
The problem with the playoff team is they didn't really look like they belonged even being pretty damn dominant out west that year
Then the LEVEL UP TO CLEMSON and Pete is a super recruiter bullshit and before you know it you're 8 and 5 with a first year head coach who was a career assistant
There is no plan to sustain the success. iDawg and I railed constantly that it is much easier to stay a loser than to stay a winner and it is HARD to stop being a loser
Give the ducks credit for trashcanning Helfrich and Willie in a hurry so the stench of being a loser didn't set in. Going from Gilby to Ty made us losers and getting excited about Sark proved it
Petersen had one good year and one decent year out of 6. If he's the standard then we still suck
We also lost to USC at home like a second tier team.
People forget we were the tallest midget chosen to be whipped by Bama. People forget that.
I still think we win the semifinal if we somehow got the 3 seed in the 2016 playoff. I know that doesn't make any sense since Clemson beat 'Bama. But 'Bama's defense that year was all-fucking-world. I'm DOOGING, but I know we were better than that Meyer-led Buckeye team.
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There's a mediocre/loser mentality that permeates UWAD.
As went Mike Lude & Don James, so did accountability and the will to win.
It's fucking over! It's been over coming up on 30 years. The upper campus can't stomach a winning football team.
But to play a bit of devil's advocate, I'm genuinely curious how Jimmy and Jen could have responded differently this year.
Jimmy was one of the hottest coaching assistants out there. Hiring him to be HC and instill some much-needed energy seemed like a no-brainer. Could we have attracted someone better? Maybe? Probably not. Seemed like a natural successor. And we've all been begging for an arrogant alpha, rather than a technocratic beta accountant. I fucking loved him swinging his dick around at midcourt during the bball game, talking up the 2020 class and talking to the 2021 class. We haven't had that swagger back up by results since the Neu years.
I know Jen reveres Pete and rightly so, but you can't fault her for hiring Jimmy. Hell, Pete clearly knew he was done and the program needed a shot in the arm. You think Pete would endorse Jimmy if he was a disorganized Sark-like mess?
That said, was she supposed to micromanage him and tell him that his head coach hiring was contingent on firing Bob and Will and Boner? And hiring Kellen Moore and Gerald Alexander? I just don't see any AD doing that. Maybe I'm naive, but what HC would allow an AD to tell him what RBs coach to fire/hire unless there was some egregious behavior?
Aside from the retentions/hires, Jimmy brought instant energy to the program. And then it quickly fizzled. I have to think it was all COVID-related. Just think if he was actually able to live out his vision of promoting the Spring Game and bringing in recruits. I'm not giving him a pass while others' recruited their fucking faces off with competent, likable coaches. But it's a hell of a position for a first-time HC.
As for the season itself, you know Jen and Jimmy abhor Larry Scott as much as the rest of us. Think how many letters she's fielded about #FireLarryScott over the years from disgruntled season-ticket holders bitching about 8pm kickoffs. Furthermore, you don't think Jimmy realizes how second-rate the conference has become? So they had to play. And they wanted to play as originally scheduled, but when you have the brightest medical minds in the country talking about COVID-related heart conditions, what's Jimmy supposed to say? "Nah, they're just being too cautious. We can control this and we got it." This isn't the fucking myopic South.
Look, I hate the JohnDon hire and subsequent "Bo Schembechler" scheme. I hate Bob. I hate Jimmy's Pete Jr. personality when it comes to benching some dudes and not playing talent other spots. I hate how unexcited I am about signing day. The fact we lost Emeka and JTT is so disheartening. Yes, it feels like this year was make or break to right the ship after the most underwhelming 2019 season in recent Husky history. But it's a fucking pandemic. I guess I just don't know where to start in criticizing Jen for Jimmy's decision-making this season. Hell, more than half of this bored was chugging the Jimmy Comeback Kool-Aid post-Utah. Tell me how a better AD could have navigated 2020 from the start of the Lake Era to now. I'm ready to write the letter. I just need more understanding before I can blindly criticize what is arguably the most difficult situation for any CEO and business/department to navigate...ever.
At some point this fall I said I wouldn't call for the firing of the coach due to Covid 19 protocols. I was doing well too until we? gave Oregon our spot. Then all the bad memories started to come back.
There was very little UW could do with this hand in this league on this coast. That is fact checked true
But if we are going to bash the myopic south for entertaining me this fall I am out!
People forget we were the tallest midget chosen to be whipped by Bama. People forget that.
Yet we've still had some really good runs at times.
The same shit is happening everywhere, but when people aren't actually sick it gets swept under the rug...in programs and conferences that care about football.
If you're telling me our OL is in the hospital? JFC, obviously no game. But if it's being asymptomatic, and contract tracing is fuckin your team...real football schools know how to take care of it.
...that just isn't UW. In retrospect, it's a big part of why I haven't dooged in more than a decade. I've seen this before, and I ain't impressed by anything they've done.
PS - Jen, you got that Michigan game rescheduled yet...? Yeah, thought so.
Alabama - mediocre from 1983 to 2008 with the exception of beating @creepycoug in 1992.
Ohio State - No Natty from 1969 to 2001. Lost to Michigan like 9 years straight.
Notre Dame - not really elite from 1992 on. Last Natty in 1988. Could this be the year for @GrundleStiltzkin ? Prolly not.
USC - lol.
Axed out the first paragraph because she likes to use my first name.
I remember it being longer. Probably because it was so painful to read.