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Sir Mells, 2022 3* DT, Henderson (Liberty), NV (Considering options)

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  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    I’ll just say the Quooks forte isn’t in player development

    Lol. It’s really cute that this narrative is still a thing.
    Is it not accurate?

    Can you give me examples of players that got materially better at Oregon?
    Johnny Johnson is night and day better.

    You want me to list the rest?
    Who?
    Johnny Johnson had around 750 yards in 2019. The year before he dropped everything. He’s preseason all-pac selection.
    Alex Forsyth was 2nd team all-pac last year after nothing. Troy Dye looked way better last year. Jamal Hill put it together at the end of the year last year. Breeze was headed no where and blew up. Popo Aumavae improved over the 2019 season. DJ James improved last season.

    Spring game surprise was Dawson Jaramillo and Treven Ma’ae. They were markedly better.

    Good Luck.







    You lost me when you leveraged Brady Breeze’s slow ass
    Did he get materially better at Oregon?
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,747
    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    I’ll just say the Quooks forte isn’t in player development

    Lol. It’s really cute that this narrative is still a thing.
    Is it not accurate?

    Can you give me examples of players that got materially better at Oregon?
    Johnny Johnson is night and day better.

    You want me to list the rest?
    Who?
    Johnny Johnson had around 750 yards in 2019. The year before he dropped everything. He’s preseason all-pac selection.
    Alex Forsyth was 2nd team all-pac last year after nothing. Troy Dye looked way better last year. Jamal Hill put it together at the end of the year last year. Breeze was headed no where and blew up. Popo Aumavae improved over the 2019 season. DJ James improved last season.

    Spring game surprise was Dawson Jaramillo and Treven Ma’ae. They were markedly better.

    Good Luck.







    You lost me when you leveraged Brady Breeze’s slow ass
    Did he get materially better at Oregon?
    Ranked in the 200s as a recruit. Drafted in the 200s.

    It’s a win for Oregon development but not a big one by any means.
  • ntxduckntxduck Member Posts: 5,728
    edited June 2021
    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    I’ll just say the Quooks forte isn’t in player development

    Lol. It’s really cute that this narrative is still a thing.
    Is it not accurate?

    Can you give me examples of players that got materially better at Oregon?
    Johnny Johnson is night and day better.

    You want me to list the rest?
    Who?
    Johnny Johnson had around 750 yards in 2019. The year before he dropped everything. He’s preseason all-pac selection.
    Alex Forsyth was 2nd team all-pac last year after nothing. Troy Dye looked way better last year. Jamal Hill put it together at the end of the year last year. Breeze was headed no where and blew up. Popo Aumavae improved over the 2019 season. DJ James improved last season.

    Spring game surprise was Dawson Jaramillo and Treven Ma’ae. They were markedly better.

    Good Luck.







    You lost me when you leveraged Brady Breeze’s slow ass
    Did he get materially better at Oregon?
    Ranked in the 200s as a recruit. Drafted in the 200s.

    It’s a win for Oregon development but not a big one by any means.
    Well if we’re looking at guys who outperformed their recruiting rankings with their draft position;

    Herbert. 3*, 659 nationally.
    Sewell 4*, 57 nationally
    Holland 4*, 165 nationally
    Lemieux, 3* 498 nationally
    Dye, 3*, 595 nationally

    KT was the #2 player nationally and will go around there—but if you’ve watched him he was basically invisible the first 3/4 of his freshmen year before a switch flipped and he started to get it. And was vastly improved last “season”.

    I don’t really even like this metric because the last couple of years (and going forward) Oregon isn’t really taking any sub 400 guys. Feels like by this standard they’re being punished for recruiting too well. If you take 18/25 sub 400 guys of course you’re going to have more kids who get drafted above their recruit ranking—because those kids are more likely to be undersized coming out of hs and turn into late bloomers. But I rather be the program pulling in 18/25 top 250 guys.

  • 1to392831weretaken1to392831weretaken Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,631 Swaye's Wigwam
    ntxduck said:

    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    I’ll just say the Quooks forte isn’t in player development

    Lol. It’s really cute that this narrative is still a thing.
    Is it not accurate?

    Can you give me examples of players that got materially better at Oregon?
    Johnny Johnson is night and day better.

    You want me to list the rest?
    Who?
    Johnny Johnson had around 750 yards in 2019. The year before he dropped everything. He’s preseason all-pac selection.
    Alex Forsyth was 2nd team all-pac last year after nothing. Troy Dye looked way better last year. Jamal Hill put it together at the end of the year last year. Breeze was headed no where and blew up. Popo Aumavae improved over the 2019 season. DJ James improved last season.

    Spring game surprise was Dawson Jaramillo and Treven Ma’ae. They were markedly better.

    Good Luck.







    You lost me when you leveraged Brady Breeze’s slow ass
    Did he get materially better at Oregon?
    Ranked in the 200s as a recruit. Drafted in the 200s.

    It’s a win for Oregon development but not a big one by any means.
    Well if we’re looking at guys who outperformed their recruiting rankings with their draft position;

    Herbert. 3*, 659 nationally.
    Sewell 4*, 57 nationally
    Holland 4*, 165 nationally
    Lemieux, 3* 498 nationally
    Dye, 3*, 595 nationally

    KT was the #2 player nationally and will go around there—but if you’ve watched him he was basically invisible the first 3/4 of his freshmen year before a switch flipped and he started to get it. And was vastly improved last “season”.

    I don’t really even like this metric because the last couple of years (and going forward) Oregon isn’t really taking any sub 400 guys. Feels like by this standard they’re being punished for recruiting too well. If you take 18/25 sub 400 guys of course you’re going to have more kids who get drafted above their recruit ranking—because those kids are more likely to be undersized coming out of hs and turn into late bloomers. But I rather be the program pulling in 18/25 top 250 guys.

    People shit on KT here, but his improvement from 2019 to 2020 was dramatic. Whether that translates to the NFL or not, IDGAF, but at this level he's awfully useful now.
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    edited June 2021
    Oregon got materially better from 2018 to 2019 under Mario. They regressed last year after what was essentially two draft classes gone and no offseason regiment. Everyone but Husky fans see the writing on the wall that large NFL draft classes will become the norm. We don’t need 82 composites to turn into draft picks to be a developmental program.
  • TommySQCTommySQC Member Posts: 5,813
    You realize where you are, right?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,017 Founders Club
    lawsandl said:

    Oregon got materially better from 2018 to 2019 under Mario. They regressed last year after what was essentially two draft classes gone and no offseason regiment. Everyone but Husky fans see the writing on the wall that large NFL draft classes will become the norm. We don’t need 82 composites to turn into draft picks to be a developmental program.

    All I see from UW football is shit about all our? NFL guys

    I don't give a fuck about them I sure don't give a fuck about ducks

    Except Herbert
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    lawsandl said:

    Oregon got materially better from 2018 to 2019 under Mario. They regressed last year after what was essentially two draft classes gone and no offseason regiment. Everyone but Husky fans see the writing on the wall that large NFL draft classes will become the norm. We don’t need 82 composites to turn into draft picks to be a developmental program.

    All I see from UW football is shit about all our? NFL guys

    I don't give a fuck about them I sure don't give a fuck about ducks

    Except Herbert
    Big NFL classes only matter if they result in better recruiting.
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,366
    Win the Rose Bowl or LEAVE
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    edited June 2021

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    Oregon got materially better from 2018 to 2019 under Mario. They regressed last year after what was essentially two draft classes gone and no offseason regiment. Everyone but Husky fans see the writing on the wall that large NFL draft classes will become the norm. We don’t need 82 composites to turn into draft picks to be a developmental program.

    All I see from UW football is shit about all our? NFL guys

    I don't give a fuck about them I sure don't give a fuck about ducks

    Except Herbert
    Big NFL classes only matter if they result in better recruiting.
    They matter for the same reason stars do. The teams with the most NFL players are typically the best teams. Shocking concept, I know.
    Sure, there’s a correlation. My point is that Oregon could win a National Championship and I couldn’t care less about the number of NFL picks. The only reason I care is for the recruiting advantage.

    Michigan puts ton of talent into the NFL. However, they have holes on their roster.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,747
    ntxduck said:

    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    I’ll just say the Quooks forte isn’t in player development

    Lol. It’s really cute that this narrative is still a thing.
    Is it not accurate?

    Can you give me examples of players that got materially better at Oregon?
    Johnny Johnson is night and day better.

    You want me to list the rest?
    Who?
    Johnny Johnson had around 750 yards in 2019. The year before he dropped everything. He’s preseason all-pac selection.
    Alex Forsyth was 2nd team all-pac last year after nothing. Troy Dye looked way better last year. Jamal Hill put it together at the end of the year last year. Breeze was headed no where and blew up. Popo Aumavae improved over the 2019 season. DJ James improved last season.

    Spring game surprise was Dawson Jaramillo and Treven Ma’ae. They were markedly better.

    Good Luck.







    You lost me when you leveraged Brady Breeze’s slow ass
    Did he get materially better at Oregon?
    Ranked in the 200s as a recruit. Drafted in the 200s.

    It’s a win for Oregon development but not a big one by any means.
    Well if we’re looking at guys who outperformed their recruiting rankings with their draft position;

    Herbert. 3*, 659 nationally.
    Sewell 4*, 57 nationally
    Holland 4*, 165 nationally
    Lemieux, 3* 498 nationally
    Dye, 3*, 595 nationally

    KT was the #2 player nationally and will go around there—but if you’ve watched him he was basically invisible the first 3/4 of his freshmen year before a switch flipped and he started to get it. And was vastly improved last “season”.

    I don’t really even like this metric because the last couple of years (and going forward) Oregon isn’t really taking any sub 400 guys. Feels like by this standard they’re being punished for recruiting too well. If you take 18/25 sub 400 guys of course you’re going to have more kids who get drafted above their recruit ranking—because those kids are more likely to be undersized coming out of hs and turn into late bloomers. But I rather be the program pulling in 18/25 top 250 guys.

    I'm not arguing that Oregon hasn't developed some people well. I was simply pointing out that Breeze is not the right person to evidence it.
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    I’ll just say the Quooks forte isn’t in player development

    Lol. It’s really cute that this narrative is still a thing.
    Is it not accurate?

    Can you give me examples of players that got materially better at Oregon?
    Johnny Johnson is night and day better.

    You want me to list the rest?
    Who?
    Johnny Johnson had around 750 yards in 2019. The year before he dropped everything. He’s preseason all-pac selection.
    Johnny Johnson averaged 57.7 yards per game as a junior.

    He averaged 38.1 yards per game as a senior.

    Whoever named him preseason all-pac is a dumbass.
    Those are pretty meaningless stats. Try and dig a little deeper. I am not saying he’s a lock for 1st team all-pac. He’s a good receiver and he wasn’t.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,747
    ntxduck said:

    He seems like a good fit for the Ducks. Total flake.

    5% chance he’s still committed by October
    He's not getting a better offer than Oregon and he's no longer offered by Washington.

    Pretty sure he's all yours unless you're suggesting Oregon will pull his offer too.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,747
    lawsandl said:

    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    I’ll just say the Quooks forte isn’t in player development

    Lol. It’s really cute that this narrative is still a thing.
    Is it not accurate?

    Can you give me examples of players that got materially better at Oregon?
    Johnny Johnson is night and day better.

    You want me to list the rest?
    Who?
    Johnny Johnson had around 750 yards in 2019. The year before he dropped everything. He’s preseason all-pac selection.
    Johnny Johnson averaged 57.7 yards per game as a junior.

    He averaged 38.1 yards per game as a senior.

    Whoever named him preseason all-pac is a dumbass.
    Those are pretty meaningless stats. Try and dig a little deeper. I am not saying he’s a lock for 1st team all-pac. He’s a good receiver and he wasn’t.
    We agree 38 yards per game is pretty meaningless.
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    I’ll just say the Quooks forte isn’t in player development

    Lol. It’s really cute that this narrative is still a thing.
    Is it not accurate?

    Can you give me examples of players that got materially better at Oregon?
    Johnny Johnson is night and day better.

    You want me to list the rest?
    Who?
    Johnny Johnson had around 750 yards in 2019. The year before he dropped everything. He’s preseason all-pac selection.
    Johnny Johnson averaged 57.7 yards per game as a junior.

    He averaged 38.1 yards per game as a senior.

    Whoever named him preseason all-pac is a dumbass.
    Those are pretty meaningless stats. Try and dig a little deeper. I am not saying he’s a lock for 1st team all-pac. He’s a good receiver and he wasn’t.
    We agree 38 yards per game is pretty meaningless.
    Last season was a mulligan.
  • 1to392831weretaken1to392831weretaken Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,631 Swaye's Wigwam
    Fuck anybody who says the games last season didn't count.

    Except @RaceBannon. He cool...
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