Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here
You're misreading or misrepresenting what he's saying.
Roadie has never given a shit about recruiting ... this is a very on brand comment for him
It's possible to understand the importance of recruiting while not personally getting invested in it.
Sure ... that’s totally fair
Getting massively invested is probably not healthy ... but having enough of a pulse to know whether a coach is doing their job is part of evaluating them
Recruiting is a leading indicator ... dismiss or ignore at your own risk
Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here
You're misreading or misrepresenting what he's saying.
Roadie has never given a shit about recruiting ... this is a very on brand comment for him
It's possible to understand the importance of recruiting while not personally getting invested in it.
Teq never seems to lose his boner for Roadie. Nit saying he wouldn't have responded to anyone else who posted that in Roadies place, but he wouldn't have been so county about it.
Roadie does, however, walk a fine line at times between expressing his own disinterest in rexeuiting and dismissing it as a lesser concern. In this case he kind of walks that line then acknowledges that shit recruiting is an issue. I infer that to be only if you care about 2024. I kind of do.
Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here
You had the most idiotic post in this thread about Kwat being a reason they are decommitting. It’s not. They committed because they had no other offers. Now they have them. It’s really that simple but you needed to try to be smart and offer up that this is proof that Kwat is a big loss.
Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here
You're misreading or misrepresenting what he's saying.
Roadie has never given a shit about recruiting ... this is a very on brand comment for him
It's possible to understand the importance of recruiting while not personally getting invested in it.
Teq never seems to lose his boner for Roadie. Nit saying he wouldn't have responded to anyone else who posted that in Roadies place, but he wouldn't have been so county about it.
Roadie does, however, walk a fine line at times between expressing his own disinterest in rexeuiting and dismissing it as a lesser concern. In this case he kind of walks that line then acknowledges that shit recruiting is an issue. I infer that to be only if you care about 2024. I kind of do.
Lake is obviously recruiting very poorly. It’s obvious. The only way to remedy it is to win next year. Most of the “leveling up” guys from those Clemson of the West classes are still on the team.
On paper, we are pretty stacked. A great season gets us attention. The final point in my earlier post was that Lake had a lackluster first real class and his current class is not off to a good start. That will very likely cost us down the line.
Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here
You had the most idiotic post in this thread about Kwat being a reason they are decommitting. It’s not. They committed because they had no other offers. Now they have them. It’s really that simple but you needed to try to be smart and offer up that this is proof that Kwat is a big loss.
It’s long known that players commit as much to the school/program as they do the coaches
K is widely respected as a top DC ... he left and we backfilled with Bobby Gregory who most here would prefer to not be associated with the program
K would have effectively been Jones position coach ... K as a position coach was replaced by Malloe who frankly doesn’t have a track record of success coaching this particular position
Mells moved from having Malloe as his position coach to effectively a 1st time coach
Sure ... it’s also very possible that more offers/interest are contributing factors
I personally don’t think we lose kids in recruiting when those kids are bought into the direction of the program ...
I personally don’t question anybody at this point that looks at the direction of this program with a degree of skepticism
Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here
You're misreading or misrepresenting what he's saying.
Roadie has never given a shit about recruiting ... this is a very on brand comment for him
It's possible to understand the importance of recruiting while not personally getting invested in it.
Teq never seems to lose his boner for Roadie. Nit saying he wouldn't have responded to anyone else who posted that in Roadies place, but he wouldn't have been so county about it.
Roadie does, however, walk a fine line at times between expressing his own disinterest in rexeuiting and dismissing it as a lesser concern. In this case he kind of walks that line then acknowledges that shit recruiting is an issue. I infer that to be only if you care about 2024. I kind of do.
I’d rip anybody that made those comments
I particularly rip Roadie because 1) he should know better and 2) back in his podding days he’d make similar shitastic takes that just make zero sense whatsoever
So if you want to say that I hold him to a higher standard ... that’s accurate
Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here
You're misreading or misrepresenting what he's saying.
Roadie has never given a shit about recruiting ... this is a very on brand comment for him
It's possible to understand the importance of recruiting while not personally getting invested in it.
Teq never seems to lose his boner for Roadie. Nit saying he wouldn't have responded to anyone else who posted that in Roadies place, but he wouldn't have been so county about it.
Roadie does, however, walk a fine line at times between expressing his own disinterest in rexeuiting and dismissing it as a lesser concern. In this case he kind of walks that line then acknowledges that shit recruiting is an issue. I infer that to be only if you care about 2024. I kind of do.
Lake is obviously recruiting very poorly. It’s obvious. The only way to remedy it is to win next year. Most of the “leveling up” guys from those Clemson of the West classes are still on the team.
On paper, we are pretty stacked. A great season gets us attention. The final point in my earlier post was that Lake had a lackluster first real class and his current class is not off to a good start. That will very likely cost us down the line.
Sure ... just win baby
Fast forward in the recruiting cycle and if I’m recruiting against Jimmy I just continue to drill home that Jimmy’s winning with Pete’s players and that since taking over Jimmy hasn’t done dick in recruiting (among other things)
Reality is that Jimmy’s flat out wrote checks that he isn’t cashing ... and there’s no evidence of that changing
Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here
You're misreading or misrepresenting what he's saying.
Roadie has never given a shit about recruiting ... this is a very on brand comment for him
It's possible to understand the importance of recruiting while not personally getting invested in it.
Teq never seems to lose his boner for Roadie. Nit saying he wouldn't have responded to anyone else who posted that in Roadies place, but he wouldn't have been so county about it.
Roadie does, however, walk a fine line at times between expressing his own disinterest in rexeuiting and dismissing it as a lesser concern. In this case he kind of walks that line then acknowledges that shit recruiting is an issue. I infer that to be only if you care about 2024. I kind of do.
Lake is obviously recruiting very poorly. It’s obvious. The only way to remedy it is to win next year. Most of the “leveling up” guys from those Clemson of the West classes are still on the team.
On paper, we are pretty stacked. A great season gets us attention. The final point in my earlier post was that Lake had a lackluster first real class and his current class is not off to a good start. That will very likely cost us down the line.
Sure ... just win baby
Fast forward in the recruiting cycle and if I’m recruiting against Jimmy I just continue to drill home that Jimmy’s winning with Pete’s players and that since taking over Jimmy hasn’t done dick in recruiting (among other things)
Reality is that Jimmy’s flat out wrote checks that he isn’t cashing ... and there’s no evidence of that changing
I don't know that your pitch has any traction with me as a player. I shut you out right after you say, "He's winning". If he didn't recruit well, I think I'm the player that's going to change that. I would think if he can win with them he can win with me.
So far I don't think kids care much about their position coach's individual success, not really. If Malloe was recruiting me and he was still on staff and Lake, a defensive coach, was saying the defense was going to stay the same, I wouldn't much care that Rip was now my point of contact. Shit, half the kids Oregon and USC have signed have position coaches that haven't done shit to produce NFL talent but they don't seem to care.
Don’t think it has to do with Kwat. He wasn’t a recruiter. They got offers, committed because of the excitement, and now have tons of other offers.
Fuck these guys. I don’t give a shit about 2024. Never have and it’s why as a fan I’ve always hated recruiting. Obviously it’s bad to lose these guys and just the overall news is mostly shitty.
Win the Pac 12 next year. That’s the only way to remedy this and even still, we’ll be behind the ball for the future after two shitty classes.
This is the most idiotic post in the history of this shithole ...
Comment #1: I don’t care about recruiting and downstream implications ... win now and that solves problems
Comment #2: Even if we win now we’ll be behind the ball in the future because if shitty recruiting
Special kind of fucktarded here
You're misreading or misrepresenting what he's saying.
Roadie has never given a shit about recruiting ... this is a very on brand comment for him
It's possible to understand the importance of recruiting while not personally getting invested in it.
Teq never seems to lose his boner for Roadie. Nit saying he wouldn't have responded to anyone else who posted that in Roadies place, but he wouldn't have been so county about it.
Roadie does, however, walk a fine line at times between expressing his own disinterest in rexeuiting and dismissing it as a lesser concern. In this case he kind of walks that line then acknowledges that shit recruiting is an issue. I infer that to be only if you care about 2024. I kind of do.
Lake is obviously recruiting very poorly. It’s obvious. The only way to remedy it is to win next year. Most of the “leveling up” guys from those Clemson of the West classes are still on the team.
On paper, we are pretty stacked. A great season gets us attention. The final point in my earlier post was that Lake had a lackluster first real class and his current class is not off to a good start. That will very likely cost us down the line.
Sure ... just win baby
Fast forward in the recruiting cycle and if I’m recruiting against Jimmy I just continue to drill home that Jimmy’s winning with Pete’s players and that since taking over Jimmy hasn’t done dick in recruiting (among other things)
Reality is that Jimmy’s flat out wrote checks that he isn’t cashing ... and there’s no evidence of that changing
I don't know that your pitch has any traction with me as a player. I shut you out right after you say, "He's winning". If he didn't recruit well, I think I'm the player that's going to change that. I would think if he can win with them he can win with me.
So far I don't think kids care much about their position coach's individual success, not really. If Malloe was recruiting me and he was still on staff and Lake, a defensive coach, was saying the defense was going to stay the same, I wouldn't much care that Rip was now my point of contact. Shit, half the kids Oregon and USC have signed have position coaches that haven't done shit to produce NFL talent but they don't seem to care.
And I’d say you’re thinking like a logical adult and not like a 16-18 year old teen
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Getting massively invested is probably not healthy ... but having enough of a pulse to know whether a coach is doing their job is part of evaluating them
Recruiting is a leading indicator ... dismiss or ignore at your own risk
Roadie does, however, walk a fine line at times between expressing his own disinterest in rexeuiting and dismissing it as a lesser concern. In this case he kind of walks that line then acknowledges that shit recruiting is an issue. I infer that to be only if you care about 2024. I kind of do.
On paper, we are pretty stacked. A great season gets us attention. The final point in my earlier post was that Lake had a lackluster first real class and his current class is not off to a good start. That will very likely cost us down the line.
K is widely respected as a top DC ... he left and we backfilled with Bobby Gregory who most here would prefer to not be associated with the program
K would have effectively been Jones position coach ... K as a position coach was replaced by Malloe who frankly doesn’t have a track record of success coaching this particular position
Mells moved from having Malloe as his position coach to effectively a 1st time coach
Sure ... it’s also very possible that more offers/interest are contributing factors
I personally don’t think we lose kids in recruiting when those kids are bought into the direction of the program ...
I personally don’t question anybody at this point that looks at the direction of this program with a degree of skepticism
I particularly rip Roadie because 1) he should know better and 2) back in his podding days he’d make similar shitastic takes that just make zero sense whatsoever
So if you want to say that I hold him to a higher standard ... that’s accurate
Fast forward in the recruiting cycle and if I’m recruiting against Jimmy I just continue to drill home that Jimmy’s winning with Pete’s players and that since taking over Jimmy hasn’t done dick in recruiting (among other things)
Reality is that Jimmy’s flat out wrote checks that he isn’t cashing ... and there’s no evidence of that changing
So far I don't think kids care much about their position coach's individual success, not really. If Malloe was recruiting me and he was still on staff and Lake, a defensive coach, was saying the defense was going to stay the same, I wouldn't much care that Rip was now my point of contact. Shit, half the kids Oregon and USC have signed have position coaches that haven't done shit to produce NFL talent but they don't seem to care.
I’m close to finishing....
Sounds like we’re still full