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Sir Mells, 2022 3* DT, Henderson (Liberty), NV (Considering options)

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  • animateanimate Member Posts: 4,230
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    Henry Hulabaloo?

    I have to say, duck or not, that's quality.
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
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    Appropriate response to development ranking.
  • SourcesSources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,793
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    lawsandl said:



    Appropriate response to development ranking.

    Which part of the development process built on a rose bowl win with losses to OSU and Cal?
  • ntxduckntxduck Member Posts: 5,512
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    Tequilla said:

    Sources said:

    lawsandl said:



    Appropriate response to development ranking.

    Which part of the development process built on a rose bowl win with losses to OSU and Cal?
    Cristobal only won with Helfrich players
    I like to say Helfrich recruited like shit ...

    I like to give Mario credit for Herbert being a 1st rounder ...

    I like to ignore the fact that Helfrich recruited Herbert ...

    That’s what I like to do
    So Is the discussion about recruiting or development? Because helf coached herbs for 3 months (where herbs was awful) and Mario for 2 years, over which he improved massively
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,800
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    ntxduck said:

    Tequilla said:

    Sources said:

    lawsandl said:



    Appropriate response to development ranking.

    Which part of the development process built on a rose bowl win with losses to OSU and Cal?
    Cristobal only won with Helfrich players
    I like to say Helfrich recruited like shit ...

    I like to give Mario credit for Herbert being a 1st rounder ...

    I like to ignore the fact that Helfrich recruited Herbert ...

    That’s what I like to do
    So Is the discussion about recruiting or development? Because helf coached herbs for 3 months (where herbs was awful) and Mario for 2 years, over which he improved massively
    You tell me how you want to move the goalposts

    As for Herbert, he came a long way as a Senior so I’ll give him credit there

    For as good as he was, he felt neutered a bit at Oregon as Mario heavily emphasized the power running game

    I’ll be the first to admit that I didn’t see his NFL rookie year coming
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
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    edited June 2021
    Tequilla said:

    ntxduck said:

    Tequilla said:

    Sources said:

    lawsandl said:



    Appropriate response to development ranking.

    Which part of the development process built on a rose bowl win with losses to OSU and Cal?
    Cristobal only won with Helfrich players
    I like to say Helfrich recruited like shit ...

    I like to give Mario credit for Herbert being a 1st rounder ...

    I like to ignore the fact that Helfrich recruited Herbert ...

    That’s what I like to do
    So Is the discussion about recruiting or development? Because helf coached herbs for 3 months (where herbs was awful) and Mario for 2 years, over which he improved massively
    You tell me how you want to move the goalposts

    As for Herbert, he came a long way as a Senior so I’ll give him credit there

    For as good as he was, he felt neutered a bit at Oregon as Mario heavily emphasized the power running game

    I’ll be the first to admit that I didn’t see his NFL rookie year coming
    Did you watch any of UNLV's offense last year? Tell me who handicapped Herbert. Mario went and got the creative Penn State OC last year and not the "run the damn ball" OC.

    Honestly, I believe Cristobal's best attribute is the way he balances the roster and hires staff. I am slightly concerned about depth at corner. I would be happy to see Bobby Williams retire. If he lets his coordinators coach, development will be automatic.
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
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    edited June 2021


    Also, this is a frame that will look really good three years into an elite S&C program. He measured 6’5” 327.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,800
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    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    ntxduck said:

    Tequilla said:

    Sources said:

    lawsandl said:



    Appropriate response to development ranking.

    Which part of the development process built on a rose bowl win with losses to OSU and Cal?
    Cristobal only won with Helfrich players
    I like to say Helfrich recruited like shit ...

    I like to give Mario credit for Herbert being a 1st rounder ...

    I like to ignore the fact that Helfrich recruited Herbert ...

    That’s what I like to do
    So Is the discussion about recruiting or development? Because helf coached herbs for 3 months (where herbs was awful) and Mario for 2 years, over which he improved massively
    You tell me how you want to move the goalposts

    As for Herbert, he came a long way as a Senior so I’ll give him credit there

    For as good as he was, he felt neutered a bit at Oregon as Mario heavily emphasized the power running game

    I’ll be the first to admit that I didn’t see his NFL rookie year coming
    Did you watch any of UNLV's offense last year? Tell me who handicapped Herbert. Mario went and got the creative Penn State OC last year and not the "run the damn ball" OC.

    Honestly, I believe Cristobal's best attribute is the way he balances the roster and hires staff. I am slightly concerned about depth at corner. I would be happy to see Bobby Williams retire. If he lets his coordinators coach, development will be automatic.
    I know Nevada’s offense sucked and obvious relation to Oregon

    That said Mario is the HC and you don’t get to use the excuse that it was someone else’s fault when you’re the big boss. You hired them ... you’re responsible for them

    As for Moorhead ... I’m not 1000% sure he’s as great as people think he is
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,800
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    lawsandl said:



    Also, this is a frame that will look really good three years into an elite S&C program. He measured 6’5” 327.

    Oregon does have a history of big bodies in the middle

    I can see why we cooled and probably walked away after he said thanks but no thanks

  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
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    edited June 2021
    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    ntxduck said:

    Tequilla said:

    Sources said:

    lawsandl said:



    Appropriate response to development ranking.

    Which part of the development process built on a rose bowl win with losses to OSU and Cal?
    Cristobal only won with Helfrich players
    I like to say Helfrich recruited like shit ...

    I like to give Mario credit for Herbert being a 1st rounder ...

    I like to ignore the fact that Helfrich recruited Herbert ...

    That’s what I like to do
    So Is the discussion about recruiting or development? Because helf coached herbs for 3 months (where herbs was awful) and Mario for 2 years, over which he improved massively
    You tell me how you want to move the goalposts

    As for Herbert, he came a long way as a Senior so I’ll give him credit there

    For as good as he was, he felt neutered a bit at Oregon as Mario heavily emphasized the power running game

    I’ll be the first to admit that I didn’t see his NFL rookie year coming
    Did you watch any of UNLV's offense last year? Tell me who handicapped Herbert. Mario went and got the creative Penn State OC last year and not the "run the damn ball" OC.

    Honestly, I believe Cristobal's best attribute is the way he balances the roster and hires staff. I am slightly concerned about depth at corner. I would be happy to see Bobby Williams retire. If he lets his coordinators coach, development will be automatic.
    I know Nevada’s offense sucked and obvious relation to Oregon

    That said Mario is the HC and you don’t get to use the excuse that it was someone else’s fault when you’re the big boss. You hired them ... you’re responsible for them

    As for Moorhead ... I’m not 1000% sure he’s as great as people think he is
    Of course you don't. Also fuck off with the NYEB. Also, Arroyo was the OC when he was hired and provided enough continuity to win the Rose Bowl.

    Moorehead is good and an upgrade. NOC that you're not 1000% certain.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,800
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    edited June 2021
    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    ntxduck said:

    Tequilla said:

    Sources said:

    lawsandl said:



    Appropriate response to development ranking.

    Which part of the development process built on a rose bowl win with losses to OSU and Cal?
    Cristobal only won with Helfrich players
    I like to say Helfrich recruited like shit ...

    I like to give Mario credit for Herbert being a 1st rounder ...

    I like to ignore the fact that Helfrich recruited Herbert ...

    That’s what I like to do
    So Is the discussion about recruiting or development? Because helf coached herbs for 3 months (where herbs was awful) and Mario for 2 years, over which he improved massively
    You tell me how you want to move the goalposts

    As for Herbert, he came a long way as a Senior so I’ll give him credit there

    For as good as he was, he felt neutered a bit at Oregon as Mario heavily emphasized the power running game

    I’ll be the first to admit that I didn’t see his NFL rookie year coming
    Did you watch any of UNLV's offense last year? Tell me who handicapped Herbert. Mario went and got the creative Penn State OC last year and not the "run the damn ball" OC.

    Honestly, I believe Cristobal's best attribute is the way he balances the roster and hires staff. I am slightly concerned about depth at corner. I would be happy to see Bobby Williams retire. If he lets his coordinators coach, development will be automatic.
    I know Nevada’s offense sucked and obvious relation to Oregon

    That said Mario is the HC and you don’t get to use the excuse that it was someone else’s fault when you’re the big boss. You hired them ... you’re responsible for them

    As for Moorhead ... I’m not 1000% sure he’s as great as people think he is
    Of course you don't. Also fuck off with the NEB. Also, Arroyo was the OC when he was hired and provided enough continuity to win the Rose Bowl.
    Classic Quook logic

    Arroyo sucks ...

    But he provided continuity to win a Rose Bowl

    Can you play both ends more?

    My thoughts on Moorhead basically are as follows:

    He benefitted significantly from a RB like Barkley ... the offense took a step back the following year

    The tenure at Mississippi St was muddled as there were some moments with Nick Fitzgerald but it got real ugly at the end

    Hard to put too much stock in any thing from last year but if I was an Oregon fan I’d not be thrilled with how the QB position played out

    So in that sense, while I acknowledge a decent resume of good for Moorhead, I also see some areas of concern.

    Anything I’m saying about Moorhead at minimum it’s fair to say aunt Donovan so this isn’t me just bashing the Ducks just because

    WTF are you talking about with NEB?

  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,428
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    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    ntxduck said:

    Tequilla said:

    Sources said:

    lawsandl said:



    Appropriate response to development ranking.

    Which part of the development process built on a rose bowl win with losses to OSU and Cal?
    Cristobal only won with Helfrich players
    I like to say Helfrich recruited like shit ...

    I like to give Mario credit for Herbert being a 1st rounder ...

    I like to ignore the fact that Helfrich recruited Herbert ...

    That’s what I like to do
    So Is the discussion about recruiting or development? Because helf coached herbs for 3 months (where herbs was awful) and Mario for 2 years, over which he improved massively
    You tell me how you want to move the goalposts

    As for Herbert, he came a long way as a Senior so I’ll give him credit there

    For as good as he was, he felt neutered a bit at Oregon as Mario heavily emphasized the power running game

    I’ll be the first to admit that I didn’t see his NFL rookie year coming
    Did you watch any of UNLV's offense last year? Tell me who handicapped Herbert. Mario went and got the creative Penn State OC last year and not the "run the damn ball" OC.

    Honestly, I believe Cristobal's best attribute is the way he balances the roster and hires staff. I am slightly concerned about depth at corner. I would be happy to see Bobby Williams retire. If he lets his coordinators coach, development will be automatic.
    I know Nevada’s offense sucked and obvious relation to Oregon

    That said Mario is the HC and you don’t get to use the excuse that it was someone else’s fault when you’re the big boss. You hired them ... you’re responsible for them

    As for Moorhead ... I’m not 1000% sure he’s as great as people think he is
    Of course you don't. Also fuck off with the NYEB. Also, Arroyo was the OC when he was hired and provided enough continuity to win the Rose Bowl.

    Moorehead is good and an upgrade. NOC that you're not 1000% certain.
    I'm 1000% certain he sucks until he doesn't
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
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    edited June 2021
    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    ntxduck said:

    Tequilla said:

    Sources said:

    lawsandl said:



    Appropriate response to development ranking.

    Which part of the development process built on a rose bowl win with losses to OSU and Cal?
    Cristobal only won with Helfrich players
    I like to say Helfrich recruited like shit ...

    I like to give Mario credit for Herbert being a 1st rounder ...

    I like to ignore the fact that Helfrich recruited Herbert ...

    That’s what I like to do
    So Is the discussion about recruiting or development? Because helf coached herbs for 3 months (where herbs was awful) and Mario for 2 years, over which he improved massively
    You tell me how you want to move the goalposts

    As for Herbert, he came a long way as a Senior so I’ll give him credit there

    For as good as he was, he felt neutered a bit at Oregon as Mario heavily emphasized the power running game

    I’ll be the first to admit that I didn’t see his NFL rookie year coming
    Did you watch any of UNLV's offense last year? Tell me who handicapped Herbert. Mario went and got the creative Penn State OC last year and not the "run the damn ball" OC.

    Honestly, I believe Cristobal's best attribute is the way he balances the roster and hires staff. I am slightly concerned about depth at corner. I would be happy to see Bobby Williams retire. If he lets his coordinators coach, development will be automatic.
    I know Nevada’s offense sucked and obvious relation to Oregon

    That said Mario is the HC and you don’t get to use the excuse that it was someone else’s fault when you’re the big boss. You hired them ... you’re responsible for them

    As for Moorhead ... I’m not 1000% sure he’s as great as people think he is
    Of course you don't. Also fuck off with the NEB. Also, Arroyo was the OC when he was hired and provided enough continuity to win the Rose Bowl.
    Classic Quook logic

    Arroyo sucks ...

    But he provided continuity to win a Rose Bowl

    Can you play both ends more?

    My thoughts on Moorhead basically are as follows:

    He benefitted significantly from a RB like Barkley ... the offense took a step back the following year

    The tenure at Mississippi St was muddled as there were some moments with Nick Fitzgerald but it got real ugly at the end

    Hard to put too much stock in any thing from last year but if I was an Oregon fan I’d not be thrilled with how the QB position played out

    So in that sense, while I acknowledge a decent resume of good for Moorhead, I also see some areas of concern.

    Anything I’m saying about Moorhead at minimum it’s fair to say aunt Donovan so this isn’t me just bashing the Ducks just because

    WTF are you talking about with NEB?

    It's not quook logic to say Arroyo was below average and Mario wasn't punished for that. Mario's priority was S&C and the defensive coordinator. That was his constraint at the time of hiring.

    Moorehead gives a positive coaching effect relative to the talent and he's consistently done that. Is he perfect? No. He's an upgrade. There's really not a lot of good coordinators in the PAC as well.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,800
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    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    ntxduck said:

    Tequilla said:

    Sources said:

    lawsandl said:



    Appropriate response to development ranking.

    Which part of the development process built on a rose bowl win with losses to OSU and Cal?
    Cristobal only won with Helfrich players
    I like to say Helfrich recruited like shit ...

    I like to give Mario credit for Herbert being a 1st rounder ...

    I like to ignore the fact that Helfrich recruited Herbert ...

    That’s what I like to do
    So Is the discussion about recruiting or development? Because helf coached herbs for 3 months (where herbs was awful) and Mario for 2 years, over which he improved massively
    You tell me how you want to move the goalposts

    As for Herbert, he came a long way as a Senior so I’ll give him credit there

    For as good as he was, he felt neutered a bit at Oregon as Mario heavily emphasized the power running game

    I’ll be the first to admit that I didn’t see his NFL rookie year coming
    Did you watch any of UNLV's offense last year? Tell me who handicapped Herbert. Mario went and got the creative Penn State OC last year and not the "run the damn ball" OC.

    Honestly, I believe Cristobal's best attribute is the way he balances the roster and hires staff. I am slightly concerned about depth at corner. I would be happy to see Bobby Williams retire. If he lets his coordinators coach, development will be automatic.
    I know Nevada’s offense sucked and obvious relation to Oregon

    That said Mario is the HC and you don’t get to use the excuse that it was someone else’s fault when you’re the big boss. You hired them ... you’re responsible for them

    As for Moorhead ... I’m not 1000% sure he’s as great as people think he is
    Of course you don't. Also fuck off with the NEB. Also, Arroyo was the OC when he was hired and provided enough continuity to win the Rose Bowl.
    Classic Quook logic

    Arroyo sucks ...

    But he provided continuity to win a Rose Bowl

    Can you play both ends more?

    My thoughts on Moorhead basically are as follows:

    He benefitted significantly from a RB like Barkley ... the offense took a step back the following year

    The tenure at Mississippi St was muddled as there were some moments with Nick Fitzgerald but it got real ugly at the end

    Hard to put too much stock in any thing from last year but if I was an Oregon fan I’d not be thrilled with how the QB position played out

    So in that sense, while I acknowledge a decent resume of good for Moorhead, I also see some areas of concern.

    Anything I’m saying about Moorhead at minimum it’s fair to say aunt Donovan so this isn’t me just bashing the Ducks just because

    WTF are you talking about with NEB?

    It's not quook logic to say Arroyo was below average and Mario wasn't punished for that. Mario's priority was S&C and the defensive coordinator. That was his constraint at the time of hiring.

    Moorehead gives a positive coaching effect relative to the talent and he's consistently done that. Is he perfect? No. He's an upgrade. There's really not a lot of good coordinators in the PAC as well.
    Whatever ... there’s always an excuse for Mario ... it’s fine and I get it the guy walks on water

    Agree with you that P12 assistants in general leave a lot to be desired
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,147
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    lawsandl said:



    Also, this is a frame that will look really good three years into an elite S&C program. He measured 6’5” 327.

    You can't teach cankles!
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