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WTF is Climate Change?
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The USA currently produces more oil than it imports. For so many years we were told we needed to be energy independent. Now that we are, the game has shifted to "climate change "
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We can go back and forth on this all we want but it doesn't seem to be producing anything.
Fortunately this thread looks to have changed some attitudes about whether climate change is occurring, but the question now stands: where do we go next.
I think trusting the big energy companies in the long run is not the solution. You think I'm putting my faith in the wrong people, and should LIPO. We can argue all we want but it seems no one's opinion is ever going to change.
Maybe it's time to stop arguing and enjoy this site for what it is and not try to make it The Woodshed.
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Good Christ. You've reached passion territory in this thread.CollegeDoog said:We can go back and forth on this all we want but it doesn't seem to be producing anything.
Fortunately this thread looks to have changed some attitudes about whether climate change is occurring, but the question now stands: where do we go next.
I think trusting the big energy companies in the long run is not the solution. You think I'm putting my faith in the wrong people, and should LIPO. We can argue all we want but it seems no one's opinion is ever going to change.
Maybe it's time to stop arguing and enjoy this site for what it is and not try to make it The Woodshed.
Ever is a long time. I'm pretty sure your opinion will change at some point. Most idealic collegedoogs have very different opinions 20 years later. -
So say you
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I used to think you were better at this.CollegeDoog said:So say you
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You as well
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This thread needs a dose of 007duck's "This Little War Between You Two Is Getting Old" WWII meme.
And then, to DIAFF. -
The only thing this thread accomplished is proving that Collegedoog is your typical college student at a liberal school.
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That's what I used to think, but the CollegeDoog vs. RaceDamone sword fight has learned me a thang or two.creepycoug said:
Is it when everything gets all hot and shit?Swaye said:Does he poast here?
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This is the only good thread I have ever started. Don't kill it with fire (unless it's sustainable wood chip fire).dnc said:This thread needs a dose of 007duck's "This Little War Between You Two Is Getting Old" WWII meme.
And then, to DIAFF. -
Best post in thread.RaceBannon said:
Great moving of the goal posts as always. I'm pretty sure that MadSon is a scientist for an oil company and he agrees with you. Should we put him on the government payroll instead or will you admit that oil companies are doing the research and development that you say we need in a blazing flash of the obvious.CollegeDoog said:
Actually this is where you show your gullibility. Oil is great until it's gone.RaceBannon said:
Yeah you covered it.CollegeDoog said:
Lol. Let's trust big oil. Thought we covered that.RaceBannon said:
I turned to my wife and said, thank God CollegeDoog's generation is here to tell us we need years of research and development. I hope all the energy companies start R&D departments right away. Otherwise we'll have to burn biomasses of tax dollars to get the job done.CollegeDoog said:
No solution is easy. It's going to take years of research and development.CuntWaffle said:
You make it sound like the solution is so easy though? I'm confused?CollegeDoog said:
Except when complex problems are being discussed.PurpleJ said:
Brevity is a virtue.CollegeDoog said:
Great simplistic response as always.PurpleJ said:
Burning wood for fuel is the kind of innovative green solution that America needs to embrace in order to save the environment. I can't believe no one thought of that sooner.salemcoog said:
This is shaping up to be a really cool weak for wood chips.PurpleJ said:If only everybody used wood chips for fuel. The world would be a much better place.
But it is necessary.
Geeze kid, have a drink or something
KOCH BROTHERS FAUX NEWS!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!
Who fueled the jet with efficient jet fuel? Big oil or Middleburry's biomass reactor?
Who has led the way in innovation if not the people actually getting the oil? This is where you show your gullibility and lack of real world experience.
Stop using oil and then pop off
Somehow we got from kerosene lamps to rocket fuel. I'm guessing it was the R&D of big corporations.
Look we get it - you're young and impressionable and your surrounded by alarmists with the crises of the week and you fall for them. We've been there which is why we like to fuck with you. If all the shit each generation has been told was true we's all be dead.
Mega billion corporations will continue to want to be mega billion corporations. Their lust for survival will trump the government's lust for greed and boondoggles.
I don't put my faith in either one, I just know that you don't bet against human nature. Your trust in the government and full faith trust in the anti corporate retards you hang with will pass when you get more real world experience.
The standard of living we enjoy and the money your dad made are brought to you by the same folks you mock me for defending. It's you that are simplistic in your response to this basic fact of life in these United States
I like CollegeDoog. He thinks we are all pissing on his youth and treating him like a kid. Truth is, like Race says, most all of us were idealists as youth, and rightly so. You SHOULD be all hot and bothered about some issue when you are young and tooling around a college campus. I was all worked up about one thing or another bumbling around Red Square in the 90's...and 20 years later, I can't even recall what kept me all worked up and crusading back then, besides getting drunk or laid. Which brings me to...
You are actually doing this thing right. While I think some life's experience will start tilting your world view on things like wood chips, for now, keep doing what you're doing, because I bet this indignant rage at Big Oil is helping you pull some serious trim at a liberal college in Vermont. And that is really what this time in your life should be about, deep introspective thought that relies on limited experience, but leads to numerous encounters with "two in the pink one in the stink" chain drive hookers at a little wood chip burning liberal school in Vermont.
I actually envy you a bit. Now post pics of some PETA bitches you've been banging out! -
If my hatred of Sounders fans could be bottled, it would power the Sun.oregonblitzkrieg said:I'm for any research that will eventually deprive the Arab countries of a necessary worldwide resource. People who want a return to the stone age need to be put back into the stone age. They aren't fit to be in control of something so important because they can't even control themselves. BTW, there is tons of energy in all that Arab animosity, I'm sure we could harness it in some way and turn it into a resource to fuel our cars.
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Collegedoog is going to feel like a real jackass in 5 years when his PHD in climate nets him zero prospects in the real world and hes greeting customers at walmart and cleaning up safeco field on the weekend after events to make ends meet "shoulda studied sport science"
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Rickshaws and horse & buggies are the answers to our future problems.
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If you're not a liberal at twenty you don't have a heart. If you're not a conservative at forty you don't have a brain.Swaye said:
Best post in thread.RaceBannon said:
Great moving of the goal posts as always. I'm pretty sure that MadSon is a scientist for an oil company and he agrees with you. Should we put him on the government payroll instead or will you admit that oil companies are doing the research and development that you say we need in a blazing flash of the obvious.CollegeDoog said:
Actually this is where you show your gullibility. Oil is great until it's gone.RaceBannon said:
Yeah you covered it.CollegeDoog said:
Lol. Let's trust big oil. Thought we covered that.RaceBannon said:
I turned to my wife and said, thank God CollegeDoog's generation is here to tell us we need years of research and development. I hope all the energy companies start R&D departments right away. Otherwise we'll have to burn biomasses of tax dollars to get the job done.CollegeDoog said:
No solution is easy. It's going to take years of research and development.CuntWaffle said:
You make it sound like the solution is so easy though? I'm confused?CollegeDoog said:
Except when complex problems are being discussed.PurpleJ said:
Brevity is a virtue.CollegeDoog said:
Great simplistic response as always.PurpleJ said:
Burning wood for fuel is the kind of innovative green solution that America needs to embrace in order to save the environment. I can't believe no one thought of that sooner.salemcoog said:
This is shaping up to be a really cool weak for wood chips.PurpleJ said:If only everybody used wood chips for fuel. The world would be a much better place.
But it is necessary.
Geeze kid, have a drink or something
KOCH BROTHERS FAUX NEWS!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!
Who fueled the jet with efficient jet fuel? Big oil or Middleburry's biomass reactor?
Who has led the way in innovation if not the people actually getting the oil? This is where you show your gullibility and lack of real world experience.
Stop using oil and then pop off
Somehow we got from kerosene lamps to rocket fuel. I'm guessing it was the R&D of big corporations.
Look we get it - you're young and impressionable and your surrounded by alarmists with the crises of the week and you fall for them. We've been there which is why we like to fuck with you. If all the shit each generation has been told was true we's all be dead.
Mega billion corporations will continue to want to be mega billion corporations. Their lust for survival will trump the government's lust for greed and boondoggles.
I don't put my faith in either one, I just know that you don't bet against human nature. Your trust in the government and full faith trust in the anti corporate retards you hang with will pass when you get more real world experience.
The standard of living we enjoy and the money your dad made are brought to you by the same folks you mock me for defending. It's you that are simplistic in your response to this basic fact of life in these United States
I like CollegeDoog. He thinks we are all pissing on his youth and treating him like a kid. Truth is, like Race says, most all of us were idealists as youth, and rightly so. You SHOULD be all hot and bothered about some issue when you are young and tooling around a college campus. I was all worked up about one thing or another bumbling around Red Square in the 90's...and 20 years later, I can't even recall what kept me all worked up and crusading back then, besides getting drunk or laid. Which brings me to...
You are actually doing this thing right. While I think some life's experience will start tilting your world view on things like wood chips, for now, keep doing what you're doing, because I bet this indignant rage at Big Oil is helping you pull some serious trim at a liberal college in Vermont. And that is really what this time in your life should be about, deep introspective thought that relies on limited experience, but leads to numerous encounters with "two in the pink one in the stink" chain drive hookers at a little wood chip burning liberal school in Vermont.
I actually envy you a bit. Now post pics of some PETA bitches you've been banging out! -
I know you're being sarcastic but I'm not going for a PhD in climate science.phineas said:Collegedoog is going to feel like a real jackass in 5 years when his PHD in climate nets him zero prospects in the real world and hes greeting customers at walmart and cleaning up safeco field on the weekend after events to make ends meet "shoulda studied sport science"
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allpurpleallgold said:
If you're not a liberal at twenty you don't have a heart. If you're not a conservative at forty you don't have a brain.Swaye said:
Best post in thread.RaceBannon said:
Great moving of the goal posts as always. I'm pretty sure that MadSon is a scientist for an oil company and he agrees with you. Should we put him on the government payroll instead or will you admit that oil companies are doing the research and development that you say we need in a blazing flash of the obvious.CollegeDoog said:
Actually this is where you show your gullibility. Oil is great until it's gone.RaceBannon said:
Yeah you covered it.CollegeDoog said:
Lol. Let's trust big oil. Thought we covered that.RaceBannon said:
I turned to my wife and said, thank God CollegeDoog's generation is here to tell us we need years of research and development. I hope all the energy companies start R&D departments right away. Otherwise we'll have to burn biomasses of tax dollars to get the job done.CollegeDoog said:
No solution is easy. It's going to take years of research and development.CuntWaffle said:
You make it sound like the solution is so easy though? I'm confused?CollegeDoog said:
Except when complex problems are being discussed.PurpleJ said:
Brevity is a virtue.CollegeDoog said:
Great simplistic response as always.PurpleJ said:
Burning wood for fuel is the kind of innovative green solution that America needs to embrace in order to save the environment. I can't believe no one thought of that sooner.salemcoog said:
This is shaping up to be a really cool weak for wood chips.PurpleJ said:If only everybody used wood chips for fuel. The world would be a much better place.
But it is necessary.
Geeze kid, have a drink or something
KOCH BROTHERS FAUX NEWS!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!
Who fueled the jet with efficient jet fuel? Big oil or Middleburry's biomass reactor?
Who has led the way in innovation if not the people actually getting the oil? This is where you show your gullibility and lack of real world experience.
Stop using oil and then pop off
Somehow we got from kerosene lamps to rocket fuel. I'm guessing it was the R&D of big corporations.
Look we get it - you're young and impressionable and your surrounded by alarmists with the crises of the week and you fall for them. We've been there which is why we like to fuck with you. If all the shit each generation has been told was true we's all be dead.
Mega billion corporations will continue to want to be mega billion corporations. Their lust for survival will trump the government's lust for greed and boondoggles.
I don't put my faith in either one, I just know that you don't bet against human nature. Your trust in the government and full faith trust in the anti corporate retards you hang with will pass when you get more real world experience.
The standard of living we enjoy and the money your dad made are brought to you by the same folks you mock me for defending. It's you that are simplistic in your response to this basic fact of life in these United States
I like CollegeDoog. He thinks we are all pissing on his youth and treating him like a kid. Truth is, like Race says, most all of us were idealists as youth, and rightly so. You SHOULD be all hot and bothered about some issue when you are young and tooling around a college campus. I was all worked up about one thing or another bumbling around Red Square in the 90's...and 20 years later, I can't even recall what kept me all worked up and crusading back then, besides getting drunk or laid. Which brings me to...
You are actually doing this thing right. While I think some life's experience will start tilting your world view on things like wood chips, for now, keep doing what you're doing, because I bet this indignant rage at Big Oil is helping you pull some serious trim at a liberal college in Vermont. And that is really what this time in your life should be about, deep introspective thought that relies on limited experience, but leads to numerous encounters with "two in the pink one in the stink" chain drive hookers at a little wood chip burning liberal school in Vermont.
I actually envy you a bit. Now post pics of some PETA bitches you've been banging out! -
Swaye said:
Best post in thread.RaceBannon said:
Great moving of the goal posts as always. I'm pretty sure that MadSon is a scientist for an oil company and he agrees with you. Should we put him on the government payroll instead or will you admit that oil companies are doing the research and development that you say we need in a blazing flash of the obvious.CollegeDoog said:
Actually this is where you show your gullibility. Oil is great until it's gone.RaceBannon said:
Yeah you covered it.CollegeDoog said:
Lol. Let's trust big oil. Thought we covered that.RaceBannon said:
I turned to my wife and said, thank God CollegeDoog's generation is here to tell us we need years of research and development. I hope all the energy companies start R&D departments right away. Otherwise we'll have to burn biomasses of tax dollars to get the job done.CollegeDoog said:
No solution is easy. It's going to take years of research and development.CuntWaffle said:
You make it sound like the solution is so easy though? I'm confused?CollegeDoog said:
Except when complex problems are being discussed.PurpleJ said:
Brevity is a virtue.CollegeDoog said:
Great simplistic response as always.PurpleJ said:
Burning wood for fuel is the kind of innovative green solution that America needs to embrace in order to save the environment. I can't believe no one thought of that sooner.salemcoog said:
This is shaping up to be a really cool weak for wood chips.PurpleJ said:If only everybody used wood chips for fuel. The world would be a much better place.
But it is necessary.
Geeze kid, have a drink or something
KOCH BROTHERS FAUX NEWS!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!
Who fueled the jet with efficient jet fuel? Big oil or Middleburry's biomass reactor?
Who has led the way in innovation if not the people actually getting the oil? This is where you show your gullibility and lack of real world experience.
Stop using oil and then pop off
Somehow we got from kerosene lamps to rocket fuel. I'm guessing it was the R&D of big corporations.
Look we get it - you're young and impressionable and your surrounded by alarmists with the crises of the week and you fall for them. We've been there which is why we like to fuck with you. If all the shit each generation has been told was true we's all be dead.
Mega billion corporations will continue to want to be mega billion corporations. Their lust for survival will trump the government's lust for greed and boondoggles.
I don't put my faith in either one, I just know that you don't bet against human nature. Your trust in the government and full faith trust in the anti corporate retards you hang with will pass when you get more real world experience.
The standard of living we enjoy and the money your dad made are brought to you by the same folks you mock me for defending. It's you that are simplistic in your response to this basic fact of life in these United States
I like CollegeDoog. He thinks we are all pissing on his youth and treating him like a kid. Truth is, like Race says, most all of us were idealists as youth, and rightly so. You SHOULD be all hot and bothered about pounding as much strange as possible when you are young and tooling around a college campus. I was all worked up about one thing or another bumbling around Red Square in the 90's...and 20 years later, I can't even recall what kept me all worked up and crusading back then, besides getting drunk or laid. Which brings me to...
You are actually doing this thing right. While I think some life's experience will start tilting your world view on things like wood chips, for now, keep doing what you're doing, because I bet this indignant rage at Big Oil is helping you pull some serious trim at a liberal college in Vermont. And that is really what this time in your life should be about, deep introspective thought that relies on limited experience, but leads to numerous encounters with "two in the pink one in the stink" chain drive hookers at a little wood chip burning liberal school in Vermont.
I actually envy you a bit. Now post pics of some PETA bitches you've been banging out! -
Thanks for that flashback. I HAD been drinking heavily. I even bumped it for great justice!dnc said: -
Holy Sh!t that is a beatdown on an epic level...RaceBannon said:The citation is several threads that exposed your lack of logic. That was evident from my last post and why you switched to attack mode.
I did take on your plan - burning wood on a global scale is not the answer.
My plan has also been clearly delineated in thread after thread. We need the efficient carbon found in oil and natural gas, we need to keep it affordable for people to use. The market will adjust to alternatives when they make sense for the market.
I'm not the one advocating that we make what we have unaffordable without having anything to replace it that will actually work.
America leads the world in energy, environment, and technology and I'm comfortable with that. You response was a wood burning at a college in Vermont. I guess I'm just too weak minded to see how that is anything other than a local thing that I have no issue with per se, but it is no solution to the global demand for energy.
The fact that this world wide alarmist climate religion is focused squarely on the USA when its the developing world that is dirty as we were a century ago leads me to think it is quite possible there is an ulterior motive here by the usual anti capitalist suspects that have been trying to undermine America for a century now.
You need the plan. We need efficient energy, carbon provides that, America makes it cleaner all the time. Until you come up with something better there is no need to sit around crying about it. We all benefit from it. Admit it.
This is about the 23rd time I've said the same thing, If you don't get it then check yourself. -
Interesting thread...sorry I missed out on all the fun.
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There will be plenty more as long asHoustonHusky said:Interesting thread...sorry I missed out on all the fun.
ObamaDroneCollegeDoog is around.
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I'm surprised more people didn't rally around him. Surely we have some Sounders fans on this bored.CuntWaffle said:
There will be plenty more as long asHoustonHusky said:Interesting thread...sorry I missed out on all the fun.
ObamaDroneCollegeDoog is around. -
Most people don't find it worth their time to engage with fucktards.
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He had it under control. Race and Damone sounded like the 50ish upper middle class worthless whites that they are.Swaye said:
I'm surprised more people didn't rally around him. Surely we have some Sounders fans on this bored.CuntWaffle said:
There will be plenty more as long asHoustonHusky said:Interesting thread...sorry I missed out on all the fun.
ObamaDroneCollegeDoog is around. -
Stop sucking CollegeDoogs dick.allpurpleallgold said:
He had it under control. Race and Damone sounded like the 50ish upper middle class worthless whites that they are.Swaye said:
I'm surprised more people didn't rally around him. Surely we have some Sounders fans on this bored.CuntWaffle said:
There will be plenty more as long asHoustonHusky said:Interesting thread...sorry I missed out on all the fun.
ObamaDroneCollegeDoog is around. -
Stop sucking Exxon Mobil's dick.MikeDamone said:
Stop sucking CollegeDoogs dick.allpurpleallgold said:
He had it under control. Race and Damone sounded like the 50ish upper middle class worthless whites that they are.Swaye said:
I'm surprised more people didn't rally around him. Surely we have some Sounders fans on this bored.CuntWaffle said:
There will be plenty more as long asHoustonHusky said:Interesting thread...sorry I missed out on all the fun.
ObamaDroneCollegeDoog is around. -
At least I know I'm freeallpurpleallgold said:
He had it under control. Race and Damone sounded like the 50ish upper middle class worthless whites that they are.Swaye said:
I'm surprised more people didn't rally around him. Surely we have some Sounders fans on this bored.CuntWaffle said:
There will be plenty more as long asHoustonHusky said:Interesting thread...sorry I missed out on all the fun.
ObamaDroneCollegeDoog is around.
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