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WTF is Climate Change?

Swaye
Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
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  • I don't care. No one can do a fucking thing about it one way or the other. It's just a matter of who gets rich off it.

    Clean, renewable, energy solutions.

    Hth
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    I care. I'm always hearing about how great this country is. I'd rather see us live up to that than shrug our shoulders and say "waddya gonna do?"
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,832 Founders Club
    The reality is America remains the world leader in energy and environment and technologies. You can stop worrying. Big Energy is on it
  • Rex Tillerson
    CEO, ExxonMobil
    Under Tillerson, oil behemoth ExxonMobil posted the biggest corporate profits in history in 2008. At this year's annual meeting, Tillerson reassured shareholders that the oil economy will never disappear. And that's fine, said Tillerson, because "what good is it to save the planet if humanity suffers?" Aside from the direct impacts the company's fossil fuels have on intensifying climate change, under Tillerson the company has contributed millions to distorting public knowledge and understanding of climate science.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-denier-elite-20130912

  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    Rex Tillerson
    CEO, ExxonMobil
    Under Tillerson, oil behemoth ExxonMobil posted the biggest corporate profits in history in 2008. At this year's annual meeting, Tillerson reassured shareholders that the oil economy will never disappear. And that's fine, said Tillerson, because "what good is it to save the planet if humanity suffers?" Aside from the direct impacts the company's fossil fuels have on intensifying climate change, under Tillerson the company has contributed millions to distorting public knowledge and understanding of climate science.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-denier-elite-20130912

    Great sound bite.
  • dnc said:

    Rex Tillerson
    CEO, ExxonMobil
    Under Tillerson, oil behemoth ExxonMobil posted the biggest corporate profits in history in 2008. At this year's annual meeting, Tillerson reassured shareholders that the oil economy will never disappear. And that's fine, said Tillerson, because "what good is it to save the planet if humanity suffers?" Aside from the direct impacts the company's fossil fuels have on intensifying climate change, under Tillerson the company has contributed millions to distorting public knowledge and understanding of climate science.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-denier-elite-20130912

    Rolling Stone is your political source?

    CollegeDoog has reached death2ducks territory in this thread.

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/jun/28/exxonmobil-climate-change-rex-tillerson
  • "The Kochs have contributed $5 million to Americans for Prosperity, the driving force behind the Tea Party. They also gave nearly $25 million to conservative think tanks like the Heritage Foundation and the Cato Institute, two of the leading players in the climate-denial racket. And to help kill climate legislation in Congress, Koch spent $38 million on lobbying — more than any energy company except ExxonMobil and Chevron. Last year, besides underwriting a host of conservative candidates in the midterm elections, the Koch brothers backed Proposition 23, the unsuccessful effort to end California's crackdown on climate pollution, and funded attacks against the EPA's right to regulate carbon emissions. In David Koch's twisted view, global warming is actually good for us. "The Earth will be able to support enormously more people," he says, "because a far greater land area will be available to produce food."


  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,353 Founders Club
    America is so awful...

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,832 Founders Club
    Good. I trust the guys that have skin in the game and have succeeded in life over some moron screaming Koch brothers. CollegeDoog is d2d all the way

    Still no plan either
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Nice standards as always guys.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited January 2014

    Good. I trust the guys that have skin in the game and have succeeded in life over some moron screaming Koch brothers. CollegeDoog is d2d all the way

    Still no plan either

    Let's trust big oil execs?

    Did you really just say that?

    Your take on climate change is laughable.

    First you say that the science is dishonest because the earth is billions of years old.

    Wouldn't the scientists have thought of that and accounted for it? But someone in real estate surely knows better about what is scientifically honest.

    My plan (the plan of the educated masses that embrace the science) has always been to invest in clean/renewable solutions while easing off fossil fuels like coal and crude oil. Natural gas, which burns much cleaner than other fossil fuels, should be what we rely on in the intermittent process, as the US has a domestic abundance.

    For every Solyndra there's a Tesla. You have to buy a ticket to win the raffle.

    The tropical regions of the oceans swallow the equivalent of 170 billion barrels of oil in solar megajoules daily, more than enough to power the United States for years. Solar is by far the biggest potential resource we could tap into, and it is imperative that we find ways to make the sun > energy process more efficient.

    There are tidal, hydrogen, nuclear, hydroelectric, geothermal, biomass, and biofuel options that are still being researched.

    Middlebury College gets nearly all of its power from our Biomass plant, which heats woodchips to create energy. As a result we are on pace to become carbon neutral in 2016.

    The options are out there and desperately need funding in order to advance.

    The big oil companies are fixed on continuing their massively profitable oil production and ignore these alternatives.

    That's why they spend millions on lobbying annually.

    But by all means let's trust Koch Industries to lead us into the world of alternative energies.

    "lol"


  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Good. I trust the guys that have skin in the game and have succeeded in life over some moron screaming Koch brothers. CollegeDoog is d2d all the way

    Still no plan either

    Let's trust big oil execs?

    Did you really just say that?

    Your take on climate change is laughable.

    First you say that the science is dishonest because the earth is billions of years old.

    Wouldn't the scientists have thought of that and accounted for it? But someone in real estate surely knows better about what is scientifically honest.

    My plan (the plan of the educated masses that embrace the science) has always been to invest in clean/renewable solutions while easing off fossil fuels like coal and crude oil. Natural gas, which burns much cleaner than other fossil fuels, should be what we rely on in the intermittent process, as the US has a domestic abundance.

    For every Solyndra there's a Tesla. You have to buy a ticket to win the raffle.

    The tropical regions of the oceans swallow 170 billion barrels of oil in solar megajoules daily, more than enough to power the United States for years. That looks to be the best sustainable energy resource out there, and it is imperative that we find ways to make the sun > energy process more efficient.

    There are tidal, hydrogen, nuclear, hydroelectric, geothermal, biomass, and biofuel options that are still being researched.

    Middlebury College gets nearly all of its power from our Biomass plant, which heats woodchips to create energy. As a result we are on pace to become carbon neutral in 2016.

    The options are out there and desperately need funding in order to advance.

    The big oil companies are fixed on continuing their oil production and ignore these alternatives.

    That's why they spend millions on lobbying annually.

    But by all means let's trust Koch Industries to lead us into the world of alternative energies.

    "lol"


    Disagree
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    Good. I trust the guys that have skin in the game and have succeeded in life over some moron screaming Koch brothers. CollegeDoog is d2d all the way

    Still no plan either

    First you say that the science is dishonest because the earth is billions of years old.

    Also, the only reason we know how old the earth is science.
  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam
    A lot of lack of real world experience in this fucking thread.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,832 Founders Club
    I never said that
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited January 2014

    A lot of lack of real world experience in this fucking thread.

    ^
    Cop-out response

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,832 Founders Club
    Wake me up when doog boy has something real to talk about
  • "Stats are great if you realize that looking at 30 years in comparison to a planet that is billions of years old is what we call a small sample size"

    -Race Bannon
  • Middlebury College gets nearly all of its power from our Biomass plant, which heats woodchips to create energy. As a result we are on pace to become carbon neutral in 2016.



    Sounds like the destruction of the forest.

    "Since 2009, the biomass system has reduced the College’s carbon emissions by nearly 40 percent and the use of #6 fuel oil by one-half, or about a million gallons per year. On average, over the past four years, this has saved the College well over $1 million in fuel costs. Some 20,000 tons of woodchips, harvested within 75 miles of campus, are used annually in lieu of that oil. According to the latest Forest Inventory Analysis by the U.S. Forest Service, that amount represents less than 1 percent of the area’s net forest growth (growth minus removals/harvest).


    http://www.middlebury.edu/sustainability/news-events/news/2013/summernews13/node/454116

    Are you even trying?
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    If only everybody used wood chips for fuel. The world would be a much better place.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,832 Founders Club

    "Stats are great if you realize that looking at 30 years in comparison to a planet that is billions of years old is what we call a small sample size"

    -Race Bannon

    Where did I say anything about science? Looks like you lied
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,832 Founders Club
    I like to say that burning wood on a global scale will reduce carbon.


    Why do I need to try. CollegeDoogFS
  • I like to say that burning wood on a global scale will reduce carbon.


    Why do I need to try. CollegeDoogFS

    It's an example of an ambitious attempt at sustainable energy working.

    You might want to stop before you embarrass yourself further.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited January 2014

    "Stats are great if you realize that looking at 30 years in comparison to a planet that is billions of years old is what we call a small sample size"

    -Race Bannon

    Where did I say anything about science? Looks like you lied
    The stats ARE the science.

    It's fucking data.

    Christ!
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,832 Founders Club
    Sample size is data too you fucking moron
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,832 Founders Club

    I like to say that burning wood on a global scale will reduce carbon.


    Why do I need to try. CollegeDoogFS

    It's an example of an ambitious attempt at sustainable energy working.

    You might want to stop before you embarrass yourself further.
    I hear they're burning your parents money too. Global scale moron, no one cares that your college burns wood for power