I think people are chasing the dragon a bit because of Myles Gaskin. We were spoiled having him for 4 years, and people like Fudgie really want one of the 47 RBs on the roster to break away from the pack and be the next Gaskin. So Fudgie is putting down McGrew, who’s a genuinely good but not elite player, because we already know he isn’t ever going to be Gaskin. Then he can Doog it up about the unproven RBs because there’s a small chance that they could be a diamond in the rough.
I agree that’s it’s frustrating to give a ton of carries to McGrew/Pleasant/Newton when the younger guys like Cam Davis have shown occasional flashes. But those established guys are still solid players, and the likelihood is that the young guys aren’t going any better than them. If they were, then they’d be getting a ton of carries over established guys like Gaskin did early on.
Blame KB for missing on all the big time RB recruits, but I don’t think he plays objectively worse players just because they’ve been around longer.
He’s fine against the OSU, WSU, Arizona etc. but he hasn’t really done shit against anyone good ever.
McGrew was good in Autzen in 2018 … just off the top of my head
It’s a dumb argument because we don’t play that many opponents that would be considered good by the board. Players tend to do worse against good opponents too.
McGrew has been our best RB at times the last two years. That said, he’s nothing special. We need to be better at RB.
He’s fine against the OSU, WSU, Arizona etc. but he hasn’t really done shit against anyone good ever.
McGrew was good in Autzen in 2018 … just off the top of my head
It’s a dumb argument because we don’t play that many opponents that would be considered good by the board. Players tend to do worse against good opponents too.
McGrew has been our best RB at times the last two years. That said, he’s nothing special. We need to be better at RB.
Washington's biggest bowl wins were all with solid but not great RBs. 1984 Orange Bowl (J. Robinson) 1992 Rose Bowl (Barry and Bryant) 2001 Rose Bowl (Rich Alexis and Willie Hurst) Total NFL carries for this group: 0.
You’re cherry picking.
‘85: Jacques Robinson, RICK FENNEY
‘92: Beno Bryant, Jay Barry, NAPOLEON KAUFMAN
‘01: Willie Hurst, Braxton Cleman, Rich Alexis, Paul Arnold
These are three of the best RB rooms UW has ever seen. Fenney and Kaufman both had long NFL careers.
I like this kid as an athlete. I am not sure I like him at tailback. And he is committed to a school that doesn’t run the damn ball. Either way it will be I retesting.
I think they're going to be a lot more balanced as Leach's players graduate out.
They are incredibly dumb if they don’t use Borghi heavily. PGOS and I have been on the Borghi bandwagon for years.
He’s really good tho. I saw him truck Hufunga from USC a few years ago. He should and would be an All Conference RB if they actually use him.
I remember when we were making fun of the cougs for taking a white RB, but the kid can play and catch extremely well out of the backfield. I think he will make an NFL roster one day
McGrew would actually thrive at WSU.
He wouldn’t see the field.
He's a good little scatback with good hands. He would pick up a lot of yards on draw plays and check down screens. More space for him to maneuver. He is ill fitted to what UW has been doing.
They have the same guy, but he’s also bigger, faster, stronger, and has better hands.
The backup is probably better than McGrew too.
Yeah, Borghi is similiar and bigger and likely better. McGrew is a very skilled back though, he would do even better at WSU than at UW.
I like this kid as an athlete. I am not sure I like him at tailback. And he is committed to a school that doesn’t run the damn ball. Either way it will be I retesting.
I think they're going to be a lot more balanced as Leach's players graduate out.
They are incredibly dumb if they don’t use Borghi heavily. PGOS and I have been on the Borghi bandwagon for years.
He’s really good tho. I saw him truck Hufunga from USC a few years ago. He should and would be an All Conference RB if they actually use him.
I remember when we were making fun of the cougs for taking a white RB, but the kid can play and catch extremely well out of the backfield. I think he will make an NFL roster one day
McGrew would actually thrive at WSU.
He wouldn’t see the field.
He's a good little scatback with good hands. He would pick up a lot of yards on draw plays and check down screens. More space for him to maneuver. He is ill fitted to what UW has been doing.
He honestly just kinda sucks.
Another shit take.
McGrew has averaged 5.8 ypc on 98 attempts the past two years. He produces when he plays. He's no pussy, getting most of his yards inside the tackles. You don't see him dance around for 1yd. He's plant and go. He should get the majority of the carries until he proves he can't. ( He won't.)
Cam Davis: 4.3 ypc avg on 17 attempts. He hasn't done shit. A 4-star TBS special, so of course he's better. Maybe he is but i'll wait until I see it before I crown him.
Im not sucking off Davis? I think he could be good. I don’t think we’re beating anyone good with a midget that runs 4.6 getting a decent amount of carries.
There you go again.
McGrew ran a 4.38 at the Nike opening, 4.49 at the most recent combine and a 4.03 Pro agility, tops among the RBs
He ran a 10.56 100 at the California HS State Track Championship, good enough for 2nd place.
He's not slow.
He gets caught from behind quite a bit. When he committed, I thought he would be a home run threat. He’s not.
There's being caught from behind and there is being caught from the angle. I haven't seen McGrew caught from behind once where he had a clear lane and the secondary player didn't have an angle. Ahmed was a home threat but what did he break? 2 long runs in his career? (SC is one) When you run between the tackles you have to get through traffic which slows you down. McGrew isn't going to dance and wait for the homerun, he's going to get his yards getting through the hole and finding the second level. He's not doing it on toss sweeps it's between the tackles.
Very rare for a running back to rip off a homerun unless it's a well blocked wide sweep or the defenders completely whiff inside (rare)
He ranks well among Pac 12 rushers. His longest run is only 27 yards which makes his average that more impressive. He doesn't have an 80 yard run inflate his average. Scheme has a lot to do with explosiveness. TBS Darling Austin Jones has one of the lower AYPC. 5 star Stephen Carr is near the bottom.
McGrew lead the conference in TD per rush @ 10%. That's a homerun threat, even if in the red-zone
I'm with you as far as McGrew having the best insticts between the tackles and being overall pretty productive. But he does fizzle out after 20 yards. I think his longest TD run, like 45 or 50 yards, was against BYU. Haven't seen that against quality P5 competition.
Washington's biggest bowl wins were all with solid but not great RBs. 1984 Orange Bowl (J. Robinson) 1992 Rose Bowl (Barry and Bryant) 2001 Rose Bowl (Rich Alexis and Willie Hurst) Total NFL carries for this group: 0.
You’re cherry picking.
‘85: Jacques Robinson, RICK FENNEY
‘92: Beno Bryant, Jay Barry, NAPOLEON KAUFMAN
‘01: Willie Hurst, Braxton Cleman, Rich Alexis, Paul Arnold
These are three of the best RB rooms UW has ever seen. Fenney and Kaufman both had long NFL careers.
Kaufman was not much of a contributor on the 91 team at fb as I remember the majority of his carries came once we throttled teams. Once Bryant got hurt he took over as the dude the next year.
I remember watching many blowouts excited for him to get carries on the prime sports Sunday night replay. Can’t speak to the 84 team.
I like this kid as an athlete. I am not sure I like him at tailback. And he is committed to a school that doesn’t run the damn ball. Either way it will be I retesting.
I think they're going to be a lot more balanced as Leach's players graduate out.
They are incredibly dumb if they don’t use Borghi heavily. PGOS and I have been on the Borghi bandwagon for years.
He’s really good tho. I saw him truck Hufunga from USC a few years ago. He should and would be an All Conference RB if they actually use him.
I remember when we were making fun of the cougs for taking a white RB, but the kid can play and catch extremely well out of the backfield. I think he will make an NFL roster one day
McGrew would actually thrive at WSU.
He wouldn’t see the field.
He's a good little scatback with good hands. He would pick up a lot of yards on draw plays and check down screens. More space for him to maneuver. He is ill fitted to what UW has been doing.
He honestly just kinda sucks.
Another shit take.
McGrew has averaged 5.8 ypc on 98 attempts the past two years. He produces when he plays. He's no pussy, getting most of his yards inside the tackles. You don't see him dance around for 1yd. He's plant and go. He should get the majority of the carries until he proves he can't. ( He won't.)
Cam Davis: 4.3 ypc avg on 17 attempts. He hasn't done shit. A 4-star TBS special, so of course he's better. Maybe he is but i'll wait until I see it before I crown him.
Im not sucking off Davis? I think he could be good. I don’t think we’re beating anyone good with a midget that runs 4.6 getting a decent amount of carries.
There you go again.
McGrew ran a 4.38 at the Nike opening, 4.49 at the most recent combine and a 4.03 Pro agility, tops among the RBs
He ran a 10.56 100 at the California HS State Track Championship, good enough for 2nd place.
He's not slow.
He gets caught from behind quite a bit. When he committed, I thought he would be a home run threat. He’s not.
There's being caught from behind and there is being caught from the angle. I haven't seen McGrew caught from behind once where he had a clear lane and the secondary player didn't have an angle. Ahmed was a home threat but what did he break? 2 long runs in his career? (SC is one) When you run between the tackles you have to get through traffic which slows you down. McGrew isn't going to dance and wait for the homerun, he's going to get his yards getting through the hole and finding the second level. He's not doing it on toss sweeps it's between the tackles.
Very rare for a running back to rip off a homerun unless it's a well blocked wide sweep or the defenders completely whiff inside (rare)
He ranks well among Pac 12 rushers. His longest run is only 27 yards which makes his average that more impressive. He doesn't have an 80 yard run inflate his average. Scheme has a lot to do with explosiveness. TBS Darling Austin Jones has one of the lower AYPC. 5 star Stephen Carr is near the bottom.
McGrew lead the conference in TD per rush @ 10%. That's a homerun threat, even if in the red-zone
I'm with you as far as McGrew having the best insticts between the tackles and being overall pretty productive. But he does fizzle out after 20 yards. I think his longest TD run, like 45 or 50 yards, was against BYU. Haven't seen that against quality P5 competition.
Uh...excuse me?
BYU will play anyone u consider "quality P5 competition" and they'll do it anytime, anywhere! They LET Coastal Carolina win so that all the big boys won't be scared next year.
This obsession with breakaway speed and taking it to the house is overrated … you can count on one hand the number of times this is even in playing during the year
When it’s there you obviously want it to go the distance
That said, I want the RB that turns no gain into 3, 2 into 6, has the balance and body lean to always fall forward. Those incremental yards are really the difference between a good and average/bad RB
Washington's biggest bowl wins were all with solid but not great RBs. 1984 Orange Bowl (J. Robinson) 1992 Rose Bowl (Barry and Bryant) 2001 Rose Bowl (Rich Alexis and Willie Hurst) Total NFL carries for this group: 0.
You’re cherry picking.
‘85: Jacques Robinson, RICK FENNEY
‘92: Beno Bryant, Jay Barry, NAPOLEON KAUFMAN
‘01: Willie Hurst, Braxton Cleman, Rich Alexis, Paul Arnold
These are three of the best RB rooms UW has ever seen. Fenney and Kaufman both had long NFL careers.
Washington's biggest bowl wins were all with solid but not great RBs. 1984 Orange Bowl (J. Robinson) 1992 Rose Bowl (Barry and Bryant) 2001 Rose Bowl (Rich Alexis and Willie Hurst) Total NFL carries for this group: 0.
You’re cherry picking.
‘85: Jacques Robinson, RICK FENNEY
‘92: Beno Bryant, Jay Barry, NAPOLEON KAUFMAN
‘01: Willie Hurst, Braxton Cleman, Rich Alexis, Paul Arnold
These are three of the best RB rooms UW has ever seen. Fenney and Kaufman both had long NFL careers.
96 is the best room. Dillon and Sheehee.
And all it got us was a holiday bowl participation ribbon and ass raping from notre dame and Colorado.
Washington's biggest bowl wins were all with solid but not great RBs. 1984 Orange Bowl (J. Robinson) 1992 Rose Bowl (Barry and Bryant) 2001 Rose Bowl (Rich Alexis and Willie Hurst) Total NFL carries for this group: 0.
You’re cherry picking.
‘85: Jacques Robinson, RICK FENNEY
‘92: Beno Bryant, Jay Barry, NAPOLEON KAUFMAN
‘01: Willie Hurst, Braxton Cleman, Rich Alexis, Paul Arnold
These are three of the best RB rooms UW has ever seen. Fenney and Kaufman both had long NFL careers.
This obsession with breakaway speed and taking it to the house is overrated … you can count on one hand the number of times this is even in playing during the year
When it’s there you obviously want it to go the distance
That said, I want the RB that turns no gain into 3, 2 into 6, has the balance and body lean to always fall forward. Those incremental yards are really the difference between a good and average/bad RB
I agree that getting positive yards when it’s not blocked perfectly is more important, but big runs for TD’s are huge. We absolutely are missing that and McGrew is not a home run threat. I’ve seen him caught from behind on kickoff returns as well.
This obsession with breakaway speed and taking it to the house is overrated … you can count on one hand the number of times this is even in playing during the year
When it’s there you obviously want it to go the distance
That said, I want the RB that turns no gain into 3, 2 into 6, has the balance and body lean to always fall forward. Those incremental yards are really the difference between a good and average/bad RB
I agree that getting positive yards when it’s not blocked perfectly is more important, but big runs for TD’s are huge. We absolutely are missing that and McGrew is not a home run threat. I’ve seen him caught from behind on kickoff returns as well.
McGrew would have to actually get past his wedge to get caught from behind on kickoffs. He's perhaps the worst kickoff returner I've ever seen, but he's great at reading his blocks and getting yards as a running back. Two very different skills.
This obsession with breakaway speed and taking it to the house is overrated … you can count on one hand the number of times this is even in playing during the year
When it’s there you obviously want it to go the distance
That said, I want the RB that turns no gain into 3, 2 into 6, has the balance and body lean to always fall forward. Those incremental yards are really the difference between a good and average/bad RB
I agree that getting positive yards when it’s not blocked perfectly is more important, but big runs for TD’s are huge. We absolutely are missing that and McGrew is not a home run threat. I’ve seen him caught from behind on kickoff returns as well.
Those plays can win games you're otherwise losing and they bury teams that were otherwise hanging around. Having someone getting touches out of the backfield who is a legit threat to house it is an important consideration. It's not a deal breaker for any one running back. It's just a weapon I think you should always have.
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McGrew has been our best RB at times the last two years. That said, he’s nothing special. We need to be better at RB.
‘85: Jacques Robinson, RICK FENNEY
‘92: Beno Bryant, Jay Barry, NAPOLEON KAUFMAN
‘01: Willie Hurst, Braxton Cleman, Rich Alexis, Paul Arnold
These are three of the best RB rooms UW has ever seen. Fenney and Kaufman both had long NFL careers.
I remember watching many blowouts excited for him to get carries on the prime sports Sunday night replay. Can’t speak to the 84 team.
BYU will play anyone u consider "quality P5 competition" and they'll do it anytime, anywhere! They LET Coastal Carolina win so that all the big boys won't be scared next year.
When it’s there you obviously want it to go the distance
That said, I want the RB that turns no gain into 3, 2 into 6, has the balance and body lean to always fall forward. Those incremental yards are really the difference between a good and average/bad RB
Lambo was worthless.