PM to my Righties (Bob, Sled, Race, et. all)
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I always found the "Buffet pays less than his secretary!" argument as justification for increasing taxes quite amusing. The real solution would be to lower taxes on the poor downtrodden and abused secretary.RaceBannon said:I'd be willing to treat all income equal but not at 37%. If Buffet wants to pay the same rate as his secretary then lets do 15% across the board
Any changes require a change of mindset. The government isn't your ATM, you are. People don't work hard everyday so you can sit in mom's basement and yell at people about the flu while demanding the government pays the rent for you
This system works when people carry their weight and then there is plenty left over for those that truly can't
Wonder why one of the lessons of the Vid isn't how healthy single occupancy vehicles are and stand alone housing. Distancing. Instead the planner still want to jam folks together like a NY nursing home -
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Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Cutting national defense makes sense. Aircraft carriers and fancy planes cost too much. We hardly spend on defending cyber terrorism, the real threat going forward. Fewer soldiers reduces medical and retirement obligations. Invading Iraq fucked us. Thanks Dick Chaney. Keeping troops in Afghanistan makes little sense.Swaye said:Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Getting off oil would go along way in saving $ and reducing terrorism against Americans. You can't change the Arabs. Let them blow each other up.
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We've gotten off of Arab oil. Little noted IMO.
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THAT.Baseman said:Swaye said:Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Cutting national defense makes sense. Aircraft carriers and fancy planes cost too much. We hardly spend on defending cyber terrorism, the real threat going forward. Fewer soldiers reduces medical and retirement obligations. Invading Iraq fucked us. Thanks Dick Chaney. Keeping troops in Afghanistan makes little sense.Swaye said:Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Getting off oil would go along way in saving $ and reducing terrorism against Americans. You can't change the Arabs. Let them blow each other up.
Split, baby, split.
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See a lefty and a righty can agree. The issue is none of the asshole GOP faggots in DC would agree with me. They are all bought and paid for by defense contractors. Just like all the Dem losers are bought and paid for by teachers unions, which is why education will never see meaningful change. When I say I hate both parties and all politicians I mean it. I am a conservative, but the GOP hasn't been conservative since Reagan. They are a bunch of asshats. Dems are just worse with all their bullshit SJW mother Earth refuse. We are all fucked. And we elected the band of losers fucking us. Both parties. Only reason I like Trump is because they all hate him (and he punishes China unlike all the rest of them because all the rest of them are bought and paid for). If they all hate you, you can't be that wrong for America.Baseman said:Swaye said:Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Cutting national defense makes sense. Aircraft carriers and fancy planes cost too much. We hardly spend on defending cyber terrorism, the real threat going forward. Fewer soldiers reduces medical and retirement obligations. Invading Iraq fucked us. Thanks Dick Chaney. Keeping troops in Afghanistan makes little sense.Swaye said:Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Getting off oil would go along way in saving $ and reducing terrorism against Americans. You can't change the Arabs. Let them blow each other up. -
Chinese and Indian families willing to pay retail. Eliminating college loans excludes a yuge percentage of Americans. Millions more unskilled workers fucks us, no? I support the idea of spending cuts but there are unintended negative consequences for workers. Small business needs enough customers that can afford goods and services.Swaye said:
Education costs what it costs because of Uncle Sugar and his college loans programs. All the "free" money in the system has distorted supply and demand curves for college costs.Baseman said:
I don't disagree. Lefties have to give on the welfare for the lazy. That said free markets have failed miserably reigning in rising health care and education costs. Infrastructure sucks. Population growth increases the number of drivers on the road. How do you fix? Spending less makes sense on paper. Cutting welfare isn't enough. As a country we can't keep kicking the can down the road. At some point we have to address, no?RaceBannon said:I'd be willing to treat all income equal but not at 37%. If Buffet wants to pay the same rate as his secretary then lets do 15% across the board
Any changes require a change of mindset. The government isn't your ATM, you are. People don't work hard everyday so you can sit in mom's basement and yell at people about the flu while demanding the government pays the rent for you
This system works when people carry their weight and then there is plenty left over for those that truly can't
Wonder why one of the lessons of the Vid isn't how healthy single occupancy vehicles are and stand alone housing. Distancing. Instead the planner still want to jam folks together like a NY nursing home
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Agree to a certain extent. The only thing keeping the world in order and the most peaceful its ever been is American military R&D. Could we still lead by a mile with less money? Probably especially considering the debacle that was the Middle EastBaseman said:Swaye said:Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Cutting national defense makes sense. Aircraft carriers and fancy planes cost too much. We hardly spend on defending cyber terrorism, the real threat going forward. Fewer soldiers reduces medical and retirement obligations. Invading Iraq fucked us. Thanks Dick Chaney. Keeping troops in Afghanistan makes little sense.Swaye said:Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Getting off oil would go along way in saving $ and reducing terrorism against Americans. You can't change the Arabs. Let them blow each other up.
The second Russia or China were to surpass the US with anti ICBM technology we have big problems on our hands
China allegedly has already hacked a fuckton of stuff on all sorts of military tech. Their problem is they cant actually figure out how to manufacture some of the components ie jet engines -
Massive injections of bleach to unionized public employees.Baseman said:Curious on your fellas opinion of the current tax system? Personal income brackets? Corporate? The proper structure balancing pro growth with an ever growing deficit and national debt. Considering this, how can we? avoid ending up like Greece?
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Yeah. I don't agree on imposing tariffs, tho. China doesn't pay. Americans do.Swaye said:
See a lefty and a righty can agree. The issue is none of the asshole GOP faggots in DC would agree with me. They are all bought and paid for by defense contractors. Just like all the Dem losers are bought and paid for by teachers unions, which is why education will never see meaningful change. When I say I hate both parties and all politicians I mean it. I am a conservative, but the GOP hasn't been conservative since Reagan. They are a bunch of asshats. Dems are just worse with all their bullshit SJW mother Earth refuse. We are all fucked. And we elected the band of losers fucking us. Both parties. Only reason I like Trump is because they all hate him (and he punishes China unlike all the rest of them because all the rest of them are bought and paid for). If they all hate you, you can't be that wrong for America.Baseman said:Swaye said:Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Cutting national defense makes sense. Aircraft carriers and fancy planes cost too much. We hardly spend on defending cyber terrorism, the real threat going forward. Fewer soldiers reduces medical and retirement obligations. Invading Iraq fucked us. Thanks Dick Chaney. Keeping troops in Afghanistan makes little sense.Swaye said:Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Getting off oil would go along way in saving $ and reducing terrorism against Americans. You can't change the Arabs. Let them blow each other up.
