PM to my Righties (Bob, Sled, Race, et. all)
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Revenue isnt a problem. Spending is.
Take for instance our friendly neighborhood Sound Transit -
Traffic sucks and cuts into worker productivity. What's the solution? Raising rider ticket prices is one way to start.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Revenue isnt a problem. Spending is.
Take for instance our friendly neighborhood Sound Transit
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So you want less riders?Baseman said:
Traffic sucks and cuts into worker productivity. What's the solution? Raising rider ticket prices is one way to start.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Revenue isnt a problem. Spending is.
Take for instance our friendly neighborhood Sound Transit
We do collect enough revenue. Taxes are inherently unfair. I like a flat tax with everyone paying something
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The solution is not wasting fuck loads of money on never ending budget overruns and still coming up with garbage like the West Sesttle bridge
https://mynorthwest.com/1818005/graft-corruption-west-seattle-bridge/? -
Spending is out of control and has been out of control since 2008. We aren't taxed too little we just spend too much.Baseman said:Curious on your fellas opinion of the current tax system? Personal income brackets? Corporate? The proper structure balancing pro growth with an ever growing deficit and national debt. Considering this, how can we? avoid ending up like Greece?
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Steve Bannon wanted a 44% rate for the top bracket
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It's a spending problem. The Portland area just passed another wannabe sales tax to "fix" homelessness. So, the working private sector will have their costs increased and having leftards spend money to "fix" homelessness will result in the same effectiveness as feeding rats to get rid of them. Ignoring crime and then trying to force people onto public transit seems a bit backward.
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I’m for the Fair Tax- No April 15th for individuals, IRS will be smaller with no power over individuals, lobbyists will have minimal power and won’t have all the opportunities to enrich politicians. We will get all of our paycheck except maybe the payroll tax for SS.
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I'd be willing to treat all income equal but not at 37%. If Buffet wants to pay the same rate as his secretary then lets do 15% across the board
Any changes require a change of mindset. The government isn't your ATM, you are. People don't work hard everyday so you can sit in mom's basement and yell at people about the flu while demanding the government pays the rent for you
This system works when people carry their weight and then there is plenty left over for those that truly can't
Wonder why one of the lessons of the Vid isn't how healthy single occupancy vehicles are and stand alone housing. Distancing. Instead the planner still want to jam folks together like a NY nursing home -
Lower the marginal percentage on the first $100,000 of income, personal and corporate. Small business owners like you actually end up better than you are now. As profit grows the marginal percentages increase. How about the growing deficit and national debt? Eliminate Medicare and Social Security? How can we justify for the folks who've already paid in?RaceBannon said:
So you want less riders?Baseman said:
Traffic sucks and cuts into worker productivity. What's the solution? Raising rider ticket prices is one way to start.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Revenue isnt a problem. Spending is.
Take for instance our friendly neighborhood Sound Transit
We do collect enough revenue. Taxes are inherently unfair. I like a flat tax with everyone paying something
I don't hate producers like some folks.
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The deficit and debt are spendingBaseman said:
Lower the marginal percentage on the first $100,000 of income, personal and corporate. Small business owners like you actually end up better than you are now. As profit grows the marginal percentages increase. How about the growing deficit and national debt? Eliminate Medicare and Social Security? How can we justify for the folks who've already paid in?RaceBannon said:
So you want less riders?Baseman said:
Traffic sucks and cuts into worker productivity. What's the solution? Raising rider ticket prices is one way to start.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Revenue isnt a problem. Spending is.
Take for instance our friendly neighborhood Sound Transit
We do collect enough revenue. Taxes are inherently unfair. I like a flat tax with everyone paying something
I don't hate producers like some folks.
You can't justify for the folks who have paid in. And it will never stop as long as people are
Adding national health and even more entitlements doesn't seem like a solution -
Oh and fuck AOC and her "there should never be billionaires" That's socialism. I'm a leftist primarily due to the struggles of most working Americans to achieve a reasonable middle class lifestyle. Medical costs are way to high. Education is way to expensive and as a country we are have fallen as the rest of the world catches up. Student loans are out of control and is a drain on the overall economy.
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Do open borders increase the struggles of most working Americans to achieve a reasonable middle class lifestyle? If you care about the private sector American middle class how in the hell can you be a leftard? Open borders and the green gaia religion fraud cost them hundreds of billions. You do realize the leftards own the public education system?
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I don't disagree. Lefties have to give on welfare for the lazy. That said, free markets have failed miserably reigning in rising health care and education costs. Infrastructure sucks. Population growth increases the number of drivers on the road. How do you fix? Spending less makes sense on paper. Cutting welfare isn't enough. As a country we can't keep kicking the can down the road. At some point we have to address, no?RaceBannon said:I'd be willing to treat all income equal but not at 37%. If Buffet wants to pay the same rate as his secretary then lets do 15% across the board
Any changes require a change of mindset. The government isn't your ATM, you are. People don't work hard everyday so you can sit in mom's basement and yell at people about the flu while demanding the government pays the rent for you
This system works when people carry their weight and then there is plenty left over for those that truly can't
Wonder why one of the lessons of the Vid isn't how healthy single occupancy vehicles are and stand alone housing. Distancing. Instead the planner still want to jam folks together like a NY nursing home
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Greece became Greece because they took the benefits of the Euro but wanted no oversight. They only got into the Euro because they lied about outstanding debt. When they signed up for their debts they thought they could default or inflate their way out and socialize their bad decisions to the EU.Baseman said:Curious on your fellas opinion of the current tax system? Personal income brackets? Corporate? The proper structure balancing pro growth with an ever growing deficit and national debt. Considering this, how can we? avoid ending up like Greece?
The states themselves are way more comparable to Greece than the Feds.
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Health care hasn't been free market in 50 yearsBaseman said:
I don't disagree. Lefties have to give on the welfare for the lazy. That said free markets have failed miserably reigning in rising health care and education costs. Infrastructure sucks. Population growth increases the number of drivers on the road. How do you fix? Spending less makes sense on paper. Cutting welfare isn't enough. As a country we can't keep kicking the can down the road. At some point we have to address, no?RaceBannon said:I'd be willing to treat all income equal but not at 37%. If Buffet wants to pay the same rate as his secretary then lets do 15% across the board
Any changes require a change of mindset. The government isn't your ATM, you are. People don't work hard everyday so you can sit in mom's basement and yell at people about the flu while demanding the government pays the rent for you
This system works when people carry their weight and then there is plenty left over for those that truly can't
Wonder why one of the lessons of the Vid isn't how healthy single occupancy vehicles are and stand alone housing. Distancing. Instead the planner still want to jam folks together like a NY nursing home -
Education costs what it costs because of Uncle Sugar and his college loans programs. All the "free" money in the system has distorted supply and demand curves for college costs.Baseman said:
I don't disagree. Lefties have to give on the welfare for the lazy. That said free markets have failed miserably reigning in rising health care and education costs. Infrastructure sucks. Population growth increases the number of drivers on the road. How do you fix? Spending less makes sense on paper. Cutting welfare isn't enough. As a country we can't keep kicking the can down the road. At some point we have to address, no?RaceBannon said:I'd be willing to treat all income equal but not at 37%. If Buffet wants to pay the same rate as his secretary then lets do 15% across the board
Any changes require a change of mindset. The government isn't your ATM, you are. People don't work hard everyday so you can sit in mom's basement and yell at people about the flu while demanding the government pays the rent for you
This system works when people carry their weight and then there is plenty left over for those that truly can't
Wonder why one of the lessons of the Vid isn't how healthy single occupancy vehicles are and stand alone housing. Distancing. Instead the planner still want to jam folks together like a NY nursing home
edit: Hope @UW_Doog_Bot doesn't shit all over me -
Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
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Trillion dollar yearly deficits can't continue. The national debt, currently at $25 trillion, continues growing higher. At some point interest payments are going to drag us down.Bob_C said:
Greece became Greece because they took the benefits of the Euro but wanted no oversight. They only got into the Euro because they lied about outstanding debt. When they signed up for their debts they thought they could default or inflate their way out and socialize their bad decisions to the EU.Baseman said:Curious on your fellas opinion of the current tax system? Personal income brackets? Corporate? The proper structure balancing pro growth with an ever growing deficit and national debt. Considering this, how can we? avoid ending up like Greece?
The states themselves are way more comparable to Greece than the Feds. -
Taxation is theft
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I always found the "Buffet pays less than his secretary!" argument as justification for increasing taxes quite amusing. The real solution would be to lower taxes on the poor downtrodden and abused secretary.RaceBannon said:I'd be willing to treat all income equal but not at 37%. If Buffet wants to pay the same rate as his secretary then lets do 15% across the board
Any changes require a change of mindset. The government isn't your ATM, you are. People don't work hard everyday so you can sit in mom's basement and yell at people about the flu while demanding the government pays the rent for you
This system works when people carry their weight and then there is plenty left over for those that truly can't
Wonder why one of the lessons of the Vid isn't how healthy single occupancy vehicles are and stand alone housing. Distancing. Instead the planner still want to jam folks together like a NY nursing home -
Swaye said:
Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Cutting national defense makes sense. Aircraft carriers and fancy planes cost too much. We hardly spend on defending cyber terrorism, the real threat going forward. Fewer soldiers reduces medical and retirement obligations. Invading Iraq fucked us. Thanks Dick Chaney. Keeping troops in Afghanistan makes little sense.Swaye said:Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Getting off oil would go along way in saving $ and reducing terrorism against Americans. You can't change the Arabs. Let them blow each other up.
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We've gotten off of Arab oil. Little noted IMO.
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THAT.Baseman said:Swaye said:Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Cutting national defense makes sense. Aircraft carriers and fancy planes cost too much. We hardly spend on defending cyber terrorism, the real threat going forward. Fewer soldiers reduces medical and retirement obligations. Invading Iraq fucked us. Thanks Dick Chaney. Keeping troops in Afghanistan makes little sense.Swaye said:Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Getting off oil would go along way in saving $ and reducing terrorism against Americans. You can't change the Arabs. Let them blow each other up.
Split, baby, split.
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See a lefty and a righty can agree. The issue is none of the asshole GOP faggots in DC would agree with me. They are all bought and paid for by defense contractors. Just like all the Dem losers are bought and paid for by teachers unions, which is why education will never see meaningful change. When I say I hate both parties and all politicians I mean it. I am a conservative, but the GOP hasn't been conservative since Reagan. They are a bunch of asshats. Dems are just worse with all their bullshit SJW mother Earth refuse. We are all fucked. And we elected the band of losers fucking us. Both parties. Only reason I like Trump is because they all hate him (and he punishes China unlike all the rest of them because all the rest of them are bought and paid for). If they all hate you, you can't be that wrong for America.Baseman said:Swaye said:Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Cutting national defense makes sense. Aircraft carriers and fancy planes cost too much. We hardly spend on defending cyber terrorism, the real threat going forward. Fewer soldiers reduces medical and retirement obligations. Invading Iraq fucked us. Thanks Dick Chaney. Keeping troops in Afghanistan makes little sense.Swaye said:Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Getting off oil would go along way in saving $ and reducing terrorism against Americans. You can't change the Arabs. Let them blow each other up. -
Chinese and Indian families willing to pay retail. Eliminating college loans excludes a yuge percentage of Americans. Millions more unskilled workers fucks us, no? I support the idea of spending cuts but there are unintended negative consequences for workers. Small business needs enough customers that can afford goods and services.Swaye said:
Education costs what it costs because of Uncle Sugar and his college loans programs. All the "free" money in the system has distorted supply and demand curves for college costs.Baseman said:
I don't disagree. Lefties have to give on the welfare for the lazy. That said free markets have failed miserably reigning in rising health care and education costs. Infrastructure sucks. Population growth increases the number of drivers on the road. How do you fix? Spending less makes sense on paper. Cutting welfare isn't enough. As a country we can't keep kicking the can down the road. At some point we have to address, no?RaceBannon said:I'd be willing to treat all income equal but not at 37%. If Buffet wants to pay the same rate as his secretary then lets do 15% across the board
Any changes require a change of mindset. The government isn't your ATM, you are. People don't work hard everyday so you can sit in mom's basement and yell at people about the flu while demanding the government pays the rent for you
This system works when people carry their weight and then there is plenty left over for those that truly can't
Wonder why one of the lessons of the Vid isn't how healthy single occupancy vehicles are and stand alone housing. Distancing. Instead the planner still want to jam folks together like a NY nursing home
edit: Hope @UW_Doog_Bot doesn't shit all over me -
Agree to a certain extent. The only thing keeping the world in order and the most peaceful its ever been is American military R&D. Could we still lead by a mile with less money? Probably especially considering the debacle that was the Middle EastBaseman said:Swaye said:Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Cutting national defense makes sense. Aircraft carriers and fancy planes cost too much. We hardly spend on defending cyber terrorism, the real threat going forward. Fewer soldiers reduces medical and retirement obligations. Invading Iraq fucked us. Thanks Dick Chaney. Keeping troops in Afghanistan makes little sense.Swaye said:Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Getting off oil would go along way in saving $ and reducing terrorism against Americans. You can't change the Arabs. Let them blow each other up.
The second Russia or China were to surpass the US with anti ICBM technology we have big problems on our hands
China allegedly has already hacked a fuckton of stuff on all sorts of military tech. Their problem is they cant actually figure out how to manufacture some of the components ie jet engines -
Massive injections of bleach to unionized public employees.Baseman said:Curious on your fellas opinion of the current tax system? Personal income brackets? Corporate? The proper structure balancing pro growth with an ever growing deficit and national debt. Considering this, how can we? avoid ending up like Greece?
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Yeah. I don't agree on imposing tariffs, tho. China doesn't pay. Americans do.Swaye said:
See a lefty and a righty can agree. The issue is none of the asshole GOP faggots in DC would agree with me. They are all bought and paid for by defense contractors. Just like all the Dem losers are bought and paid for by teachers unions, which is why education will never see meaningful change. When I say I hate both parties and all politicians I mean it. I am a conservative, but the GOP hasn't been conservative since Reagan. They are a bunch of asshats. Dems are just worse with all their bullshit SJW mother Earth refuse. We are all fucked. And we elected the band of losers fucking us. Both parties. Only reason I like Trump is because they all hate him (and he punishes China unlike all the rest of them because all the rest of them are bought and paid for). If they all hate you, you can't be that wrong for America.Baseman said:Swaye said:Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Cutting national defense makes sense. Aircraft carriers and fancy planes cost too much. We hardly spend on defending cyber terrorism, the real threat going forward. Fewer soldiers reduces medical and retirement obligations. Invading Iraq fucked us. Thanks Dick Chaney. Keeping troops in Afghanistan makes little sense.Swaye said:Also, we need to massively cut spending EVERYWHERE including traditional "conservative" areas like defense. In fact, I'd say an across the board, every single government entity, 17% cut is what I would like to see. Would you lose some services? Yep. Fuck em. Government is involved in too much shit anyway. Take your gender studies grant and shove it up your ass. 12 aircraft carriers? 10 would do just fine. Shrink it ALL.
Getting off oil would go along way in saving $ and reducing terrorism against Americans. You can't change the Arabs. Let them blow each other up.
