You know who else looked confident when he stepped on the field? Jake Haener did against North Dakota. You know who else got rave reviews in practice reports? Jake Haener did. Then he stepped on the field against a real team and provided me with one of the more surreal moments of my Husky fandom (#MillenialDoogAlert, #NeverForget). Not saying Shough = Haener, but I do think it’s fair to say you really have no idea what he’s going to look like as a starter game in and game out.
If Shough is the starter, he’s better than serviceable. Oregon has a known quantity at qb. Also, Shough is 6’4” 220 has good arm strength and was a blue chip talent out high school. Haener was always going to have to compensate for his physical shortcomings.
Jacob Sirmon is 6'5" 234 with better arm strength and was ranked 50 spots higher than Shough out of high school and nobody on here is jerking off about him because he hasn't proven shit on the field yet, just like Shough.
Sirmon also was getting beat by Morris. I am not anointing Shough as the next great one. I have more faith in our qbs precisely because Sirmon hasn’t stood out and Oregon has a senior transfer and a someone they feel good about.
Seriously, I mentioned Shough’s measurables to Haener. Stop acting like it’s anything more.
You mean by the guy behind him on the depth chart?
I for one wish UW had gotten one of the many grad transfer QBs this year to provide that floor for Sirmon or whoever to try to top.
No doubt. Brown has been a mostly mediocre QB against mediocre competition and has had two devastating injuries to the same knee. Adding him to our mix would not make me feel significantly better about our QB room other than simply adding another body for the competition.
You know who else looked confident when he stepped on the field? Jake Haener did against North Dakota. You know who else got rave reviews in practice reports? Jake Haener did. Then he stepped on the field against a real team and provided me with one of the more surreal moments of my Husky fandom (#MillenialDoogAlert, #NeverForget). Not saying Shough = Haener, but I do think it’s fair to say you really have no idea what he’s going to look like as a starter game in and game out.
If Shough is the starter, he’s better than serviceable. Oregon has a known quantity at qb. Also, Shough is 6’4” 220 has good arm strength and was a blue chip talent out high school. Haener was always going to have to compensate for his physical shortcomings.
Jacob Sirmon is 6'5" 234 with better arm strength and was ranked 50 spots higher than Shough out of high school and nobody on here is jerking off about him because he hasn't proven shit on the field yet, just like Shough.
Sirmon also was getting beat by Morris. I am not anointing Shough as the next great one. I have more faith in our qbs precisely because Sirmon hasn’t stood out and Oregon has a senior transfer and a someone they feel good about.
Seriously, I mentioned Shough’s measurables to Haener. Stop acting like it’s anything more.
Sirmon was the backup last year hth
That would make sense since Morris had a redshirt.
I for one wish UW had gotten one of the many grad transfer QBs this year to provide that floor for Sirmon or whoever to try to top.
No doubt. Brown has been a mostly mediocre QB against mediocre competition and has had two devastating injuries to the same knee. Adding him to our mix would not make me feel significantly better about our QB room other than simply adding another body for the competition.
He’s more Prukop than Vernon Adams.
You’re overselling the injury. It is not “devastating.”
With regards to defenses, they play ND and Clemson regularly. Those two defenses are better than any we face. You’re spinning the narrative.
Oregon's defense gave up 31 points to a Chris Petersen offense last year. That's not elite in my book.
Oregon’s defense will be better next year. It’s hard to argue that too.
Agreed Oregon's defense should improve with the returning starters. Will be interesting to see whether Oregon or Washington has the #1 D in the conference next year. Hype is all Oregon from sportswriters right now - which is understandable - but I'll take the DC who had the #1 D for 4 of the last 5 years. And the visible improvement from our D over last season (after returning 2 starters) was phenomenal. Gave up like 11 PPG in the last four games after benching Manu.
You're a .500 program since James quit which was a looooooooooooooong time ago.
This is where UW has proven itself to belong. Best case scenario the 2020 season gets cancelled because you all know you're staring down the barrel of another 6/7 win season.
You’re the LA Clippers of College Football. Shut the fuck up.
That's a lot of chins for a BtP low-hanging-fruit-post. It must have been the .500 comment.
The possible saving grace will be the season (if it happens). We have the horses to win the pac 12. With the guys we have returning and the quality of the guys replacing last years starters there is absolutely no excuse for not winning the pac 12. If Jimmy is up to the job, we will absolutely FUCK in recruiting down the stretch. If we go 8-5 or something, we will likely have the 4th best class in the north (closer to OSU and WSU than to the top 3) and you might as well fire the whole staff and start over cuz it'll be all downhill from there.
Um. You? have a big question mark at QB. Since when in the P12 does a team with a ? at QB is a team in "no excuse for not winning the P12" territory?
That, and the guy running the show is a guy who turned in a mediocre performance as a D coordinator last season and whose claim to fame is being a good d-back coach.
I think there will be PLENTY of excuses if Washington doesn't win the P12. I'd be rather surprised if you? did.
You're a .500 program since James quit which was a looooooooooooooong time ago.
This is where UW has proven itself to belong. Best case scenario the 2020 season gets cancelled because you all know you're staring down the barrel of another 6/7 win season.
You’re the LA Clippers of College Football. Shut the fuck up.
Three Rose Bowl wins in the last ten years...checks out.
Let me paint a better picture. Since the Doogfather quit UW has as many 2 or less win seasons as conference titles.
Let me help; 7-4, 7-4, 7-4, 6-6, 7-5, 7-6, 6-6, 1-10, 2-9, 5-7, 4-9, 0-12, 5-7, 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, 7-6.
Do you see the pattern forming here? You're a fucking shit program. The one good coach you've have since color TV died of old age.
Just because good football players grow up near a shitty program that doesn't mean they should or are going to go there. Go ask ASU how that's working out for them.
0 National Championsips.
Losing record versus UW.
All the ducks have is selective history. I too can point to a certain point at your history and laugh at it.
You realize that your post is internally contradictory, yes? If that's "all the ducks have", then, by definition, it's all Washington has.
You're a .500 program since James quit which was a looooooooooooooong time ago.
This is where UW has proven itself to belong. Best case scenario the 2020 season gets cancelled because you all know you're staring down the barrel of another 6/7 win season.
You’re the LA Clippers of College Football. Shut the fuck up.
Three Rose Bowl wins in the last ten years...checks out.
Let me paint a better picture. Since the Doogfather quit UW has as many 2 or less win seasons as conference titles.
Let me help; 7-4, 7-4, 7-4, 6-6, 7-5, 7-6, 6-6, 1-10, 2-9, 5-7, 4-9, 0-12, 5-7, 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, 7-6.
Do you see the pattern forming here? You're a fucking shit program. The one good coach you've have since color TV died of old age.
Just because good football players grow up near a shitty program that doesn't mean they should or are going to go there. Go ask ASU how that's working out for them.
0 National Championsips.
Losing record versus UW.
All the ducks have is selective history. I too can point to a certain point at your history and laugh at it.
Also, last 4 years, UW has undoubtedly been the more sucessfull program. You don't even have recent history. Just last year lol.
UW's 17 year plan to not win a Rose Bowl? Ok...
You beat the 3rd best team in the big 10.
Please shut the fuck up.
So how good was the last Oregon team that UW beat?
You dumb fucks never seem to understand that these jabs work equally in the other direction.
You should have stayed in the Tacoma crack house with Ballz.
You're a .500 program since James quit which was a looooooooooooooong time ago.
This is where UW has proven itself to belong. Best case scenario the 2020 season gets cancelled because you all know you're staring down the barrel of another 6/7 win season.
You’re the LA Clippers of College Football. Shut the fuck up.
Three Rose Bowl wins in the last ten years...checks out.
Let me paint a better picture. Since the Doogfather quit UW has as many 2 or less win seasons as conference titles.
Let me help; 7-4, 7-4, 7-4, 6-6, 7-5, 7-6, 6-6, 1-10, 2-9, 5-7, 4-9, 0-12, 5-7, 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, 7-6.
Do you see the pattern forming here? You're a fucking shit program. The one good coach you've have since color TV died of old age.
Just because good football players grow up near a shitty program that doesn't mean they should or are going to go there. Go ask ASU how that's working out for them.
0 National Championsips.
Losing record versus UW.
All the ducks have is selective history. I too can point to a certain point at your history and laugh at it.
Also, last 4 years, UW has undoubtedly been the more sucessfull program. You don't even have recent history. Just last year lol.
So, selective history?
So, 3 of the last 4? Great job. Great effert. You probably need a new handle.
I for one wish UW had gotten one of the many grad transfer QBs this year to provide that floor for Sirmon or whoever to try to top.
No doubt. Brown has been a mostly mediocre QB against mediocre competition and has had two devastating injuries to the same knee. Adding him to our mix would not make me feel significantly better about our QB room other than simply adding another body for the competition.
He’s more Prukop than Vernon Adams.
You’re overselling the injury. It is not “devastating.”
With regards to defenses, they play ND and Clemson regularly. Those two defenses are better than any we face. You’re spinning the narrative.
He’s thrown 3 passes against Clemson and Notre Dame combined since his freshman year.
You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
Oregon's defense gave up 31 points to a Chris Petersen offense last year. That's not elite in my book.
Oregon’s defense will be better next year. It’s hard to argue that too.
Agreed Oregon's defense should improve with the returning starters. Will be interesting to see whether Oregon or Washington has the #1 D in the conference next year. Hype is all Oregon from sportswriters right now - which is understandable - but I'll take the DC who had the #1 D for 4 of the last 5 years. And the visible improvement from our D over last season (after returning 2 starters) was phenomenal. Gave up like 11 PPG in the last four games after benching Manu.
The possible saving grace will be the season (if it happens). We have the horses to win the pac 12. With the guys we have returning and the quality of the guys replacing last years starters there is absolutely no excuse for not winning the pac 12. If Jimmy is up to the job, we will absolutely FUCK in recruiting down the stretch. If we go 8-5 or something, we will likely have the 4th best class in the north (closer to OSU and WSU than to the top 3) and you might as well fire the whole staff and start over cuz it'll be all downhill from there.
This is doogy as fuck. We don’t even know if we have a quarterback, and there’s no spring ball this year. That is not a recipe for any kind of championship outside of the sustainability natty.
How is it dooging to say that with the talent we've acquired over the last 4 years, theres no excuse for not winning the pac 12? That's literally the opposite of dooging. Fuck the "we dont know if we have a qb" narrative. You have 3 4* recruits. Get one of them to play at a high level! Nobody else had spring ball so why should we fold the cards and say, "well theres no hope this year. I guess we might be better next year when we have spring ball and a new freshman qb."
Saying UW has as good of shot as any other team is different than saying there’s no excuses. There’s not one reason to put UW as a front runner. That includes talent acquisition over the last 4 years.
Who has vastly better returning talent than us? I dont think we are returning amazing talent, but the rest of the PAC is dreck as well. Cal returns their QB but they lose all their studs on defense and have not recruited well in the last few years. Oregon is in the exact same spot as us QB-wise and has to replace 4/5 of their o line. ASU loses their 2 biggest offensive weapons. USC has Helton. Again, if Jimmy is the guy, He should win with THIS group in THIS conference.
Our DL and DB groups should be at the top of the conference with who we have returning. Otten should be one of the best TEs. Our WR group should be VASTLY upgraded compared to last year. If those things dont happen, then Jimmy is not the right coach. If they do happen, we win the conference.
You're selling us short. We're not dreck. We whined for millenia about achieving that elusive 50% blue chip ratio and guess what? We're fucking there. We're beyond it. We have talent EVERYWHERE. Now I don't know about y'all, but I expect Jimmy to use that talent to roll the fuck out of people. The defense is fucking locked and loaded and could be the best we've seen. I'm seeing predictions of "likely 7-6" in here. Fucking Christ. What happened to these poor people?
The possible saving grace will be the season (if it happens). We have the horses to win the pac 12. With the guys we have returning and the quality of the guys replacing last years starters there is absolutely no excuse for not winning the pac 12. If Jimmy is up to the job, we will absolutely FUCK in recruiting down the stretch. If we go 8-5 or something, we will likely have the 4th best class in the north (closer to OSU and WSU than to the top 3) and you might as well fire the whole staff and start over cuz it'll be all downhill from there.
This is doogy as fuck. We don’t even know if we have a quarterback, and there’s no spring ball this year. That is not a recipe for any kind of championship outside of the sustainability natty.
How is it dooging to say that with the talent we've acquired over the last 4 years, theres no excuse for not winning the pac 12? That's literally the opposite of dooging. Fuck the "we dont know if we have a qb" narrative. You have 3 4* recruits. Get one of them to play at a high level! Nobody else had spring ball so why should we fold the cards and say, "well theres no hope this year. I guess we might be better next year when we have spring ball and a new freshman qb."
Saying UW has as good of shot as any other team is different than saying there’s no excuses. There’s not one reason to put UW as a front runner. That includes talent acquisition over the last 4 years.
Who has vastly better returning talent than us? I dont think we are returning amazing talent, but the rest of the PAC is dreck as well. Cal returns their QB but they lose all their studs on defense and have not recruited well in the last few years. Oregon is in the exact same spot as us QB-wise and has to replace 4/5 of their o line. ASU loses their 2 biggest offensive weapons. USC has Helton. Again, if Jimmy is the guy, He should win with THIS group in THIS conference.
Our DL and DB groups should be at the top of the conference with who we have returning. Otten should be one of the best TEs. Our WR group should be VASTLY upgraded compared to last year. If those things dont happen, then Jimmy is not the right coach. If they do happen, we win the conference.
You're selling us short. We're not dreck. We whined for millenia about achieving that elusive 50% blue chip ratio and guess what? We're fucking there. We're beyond it. We have talent EVERYWHERE. Now I don't know about y'all, but I expect Jimmy to use that talent to roll the fuck out of people. The defense is fucking locked and loaded and could be the best we've seen. I'm seeing predictions of "likely 7-6" in here. Fucking Christ. What happened to these poor people?
The front seven last year was vulnerable. The qb play was inconsistent. If you think addition by subtraction makes you better because “blue chip” talent, you might reconsider expectations. The cream should have risen to the top at linebacker last year and it didn’t.
There was no cream at LB.
You havent spent enough time watching specific UW players, experienced or otherwise, to write intelligently about expectations for this year. Dont be a simpleton flame like that pompous moron mooster.
You made my point. There was no cream at LB. I watched every UW game. I can opine just as much as everyone here.
UW has a tough row to hoe next season to win the conference. I have much more faith in the qb play at Oregon. There are less holes to fill in defense. The schedule sets up well for Oregon.
Quook
Where are the holes on defense? Also, Shough has looked good in limited play and we have a senior qb that’s played a bunch. Oregon has a higher floor than UW. If you think otherwise, explain why.
You have no reason to have more faith in Oregon QB's. Neither of us have any reason to have any faith in our QB's.
I didn't say anything about Oregon having holes to fill on defense. Neither defense has holes to fill.
Oregon has a senior grad qb that played a ton of football. It’s hard to argue otherwise.
He's never even completed 60% of his passes in the shitty ACC and now he's transferring into a new system with a shortened offseason.
If that makes you confident, you're a Quook.
hth
I would have gone in another direction: I would have focused on Shough, because he's a talented kid who's been in the system a while now, got to draft behind a 4-year starter and had some decent garbage time. That's a better argument than the BC kid.
Still, I'd say it's true that it's quooking to say that Oregon's situation at QB is better, when really nobody has a clue how the kid will do when it's his job in game time.
The possible saving grace will be the season (if it happens). We have the horses to win the pac 12. With the guys we have returning and the quality of the guys replacing last years starters there is absolutely no excuse for not winning the pac 12. If Jimmy is up to the job, we will absolutely FUCK in recruiting down the stretch. If we go 8-5 or something, we will likely have the 4th best class in the north (closer to OSU and WSU than to the top 3) and you might as well fire the whole staff and start over cuz it'll be all downhill from there.
This is doogy as fuck. We don’t even know if we have a quarterback, and there’s no spring ball this year. That is not a recipe for any kind of championship outside of the sustainability natty.
How is it dooging to say that with the talent we've acquired over the last 4 years, theres no excuse for not winning the pac 12? That's literally the opposite of dooging. Fuck the "we dont know if we have a qb" narrative. You have 3 4* recruits. Get one of them to play at a high level! Nobody else had spring ball so why should we fold the cards and say, "well theres no hope this year. I guess we might be better next year when we have spring ball and a new freshman qb."
Saying UW has as good of shot as any other team is different than saying there’s no excuses. There’s not one reason to put UW as a front runner. That includes talent acquisition over the last 4 years.
Who has vastly better returning talent than us? I dont think we are returning amazing talent, but the rest of the PAC is dreck as well. Cal returns their QB but they lose all their studs on defense and have not recruited well in the last few years. Oregon is in the exact same spot as us QB-wise and has to replace 4/5 of their o line. ASU loses their 2 biggest offensive weapons. USC has Helton. Again, if Jimmy is the guy, He should win with THIS group in THIS conference.
Our DL and DB groups should be at the top of the conference with who we have returning. Otten should be one of the best TEs. Our WR group should be VASTLY upgraded compared to last year. If those things dont happen, then Jimmy is not the right coach. If they do happen, we win the conference.
You're selling us short. We're not dreck. We whined for millenia about achieving that elusive 50% blue chip ratio and guess what? We're fucking there. We're beyond it. We have talent EVERYWHERE. Now I don't know about y'all, but I expect Jimmy to use that talent to roll the fuck out of people. The defense is fucking locked and loaded and could be the best we've seen. I'm seeing predictions of "likely 7-6" in here. Fucking Christ. What happened to these poor people?
The front seven last year was vulnerable. The qb play was inconsistent. If you think addition by subtraction makes you better because “blue chip” talent, you might reconsider expectations. The cream should have risen to the top at linebacker last year and it didn’t.
There was no cream at LB.
You havent spent enough time watching specific UW players, experienced or otherwise, to write intelligently about expectations for this year. Dont be a simpleton flame like that pompous moron mooster.
You made my point. There was no cream at LB. I watched every UW game. I can opine just as much as everyone here.
UW has a tough row to hoe next season to win the conference. I have much more faith in the qb play at Oregon. There are less holes to fill in defense. The schedule sets up well for Oregon.
Quook
Where are the holes on defense? Also, Shough has looked good in limited play and we have a senior qb that’s played a bunch. Oregon has a higher floor than UW. If you think otherwise, explain why.
You have no reason to have more faith in Oregon QB's. Neither of us have any reason to have any faith in our QB's.
I didn't say anything about Oregon having holes to fill on defense. Neither defense has holes to fill.
Oregon has a senior grad qb that played a ton of football. It’s hard to argue otherwise.
He's never even completed 60% of his passes in the shitty ACC and now he's transferring into a new system with a shortened offseason.
If that makes you confident, you're a Quook.
hth
I would have gone in another direction: I would have focused on Shough, because he's a talented kid who's been in the system a while now, got to draft behind a 4-year starter and had some decent garbage time. That's a better argument than the BC kid.
Still, I'd say it's true that it's quooking to say that Oregon's situation at QB is better, when really nobody has a clue how the kid will do when it's his job in game time.
I would feel worse if Shough couldn’t beat out Haener.
You know who else looked confident when he stepped on the field? Jake Haener did against North Dakota. You know who else got rave reviews in practice reports? Jake Haener did. Then he stepped on the field against a real team and provided me with one of the more surreal moments of my Husky fandom (#MillenialDoogAlert, #NeverForget). Not saying Shough = Haener, but I do think it’s fair to say you really have no idea what he’s going to look like as a starter game in and game out.
If Shough is the starter, he’s better than serviceable. Oregon has a known quantity at qb. Also, Shough is 6’4” 220 has good arm strength and was a blue chip talent out high school. Haener was always going to have to compensate for his physical shortcomings.
Jacob Sirmon is 6'5" 234 with better arm strength and was ranked 50 spots higher than Shough out of high school and nobody on here is jerking off about him because he hasn't proven shit on the field yet, just like Shough.
Sirmon also was getting beat by Morris. I am not anointing Shough as the next great one. I have more faith in our qbs precisely because Sirmon hasn’t stood out and Oregon has a senior transfer and a someone they feel good about.
Seriously, I mentioned Shough’s measurables to Haener. Stop acting like it’s anything more.
You just say whatever you want to support your quookish confidence. Nowhere, at no time has there been anything coming out of practice reports saying that Morris was beating out Sirmon. Sirmon was the QB off the bench last season. That's what we know, and that's what you know. Quit making shit up.
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He’s more Prukop than Vernon Adams.
With regards to defenses, they play ND and Clemson regularly. Those two defenses are better than any we face. You’re spinning the narrative.
That, and the guy running the show is a guy who turned in a mediocre performance as a D coordinator last season and whose claim to fame is being a good d-back coach.
I think there will be PLENTY of excuses if Washington doesn't win the P12. I'd be rather surprised if you? did.
You dumb fucks never seem to understand that these jabs work equally in the other direction.
You should have stayed in the Tacoma crack house with Ballz.
So, 3 of the last 4? Great job. Great effert. You probably need a new handle.
You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
I guess I take it all back. The P12 is fucked.
Still, I'd say it's true that it's quooking to say that Oregon's situation at QB is better, when really nobody has a clue how the kid will do when it's his job in game time.