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If Hop Loses Out

RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
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Is there still no way he gets fired? I would hope losing out and a 12th place finish for a team that was once ranked in the top 25 should do it.

Any way to get him fired is best for the program at this point. Upper campus bullshit about Green should be used as well. Hopefully some other players also have terrible grades and have very little chance at graduating. This isn’t mediocre and a slight below .500 conference record. This is 12th place in the PAC.

And I know it’s not Stewart’s fault (although his play had dropped off big time) but I hope we never get a one and done again because each year we have had one, we have completely sucked. Anytime an average program or worse gets those guys, they are still bad.

Can’t see how even Cohen wouldn’t consider it at this point. 12th in the conference with two one and done first rounders, a five star transfer, and a couple up class men off last year’s PAC 12 champs.
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  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,357
    Kim Grinolds and some other dawgman people are pedaling this notion that Sam Timmons was forced to give up his jersey # to Isaiah Stewart and that caused a morale hit with the team that snowballed into the shitshow that has been this season. If true, that is some seriously shitty team management by Hopkins.
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,521 Standard Supporter
    ThomasFremont said:

    The incompetence is reaching epic proportions. We have the in season roster mismanagement, lack of player development for anyone on the roster, inability to keep Green eligible, an offense that makes you contemplate the heat death of the universe, and zero recruits for 2020.

    Plus the inability to win a fucking game.

    What exactly are the positives?

    -a regular season title in a down year for the conference.

    -a tourney win against a mid major before getting shit on by UNC.

    -a good recruiting class that he’s managed to lead to the PAC-12 cellar.

    Is anyone still on board with this guy???

    Zero recruits for 2020 is probably the best argument against this guy. Supposedly recruiting is his forte'. Failing to reload for when Stewart (who for sure will be one and done) and McDaniels (good riddance) is comical.

    Didn't watch last night but he got absolutely PWNED by WSU's new guy on Sunday. No way that team should be on the floor vs. all this talent. Cuog plays hard all the time. Hop's guys sort of turn it on and off when they have all the feels.

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  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    No coach, in any P5 conference, should survive the season if he finishes dead last. Factor in the inherent advantages this program has, the roster, the preseason hype, and the complete clusterfuck that followed, and I'd be okay with a midseason firing. Cut our losses and blow this shit up now. Winning in college basketball isn't that fucking hard.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,812 Founders Club
    @Shenexon ?
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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,789
    The Season (Has Been) Over

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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,789
    bananasnblondes said:

    dnc said:

    bananasnblondes said:

    Kim Grinolds and some other dawgman people are pedaling this notion that Sam Timmons was forced to give up his jersey # to Isaiah Stewart and that caused a morale hit with the team that snowballed into the shitshow that has been this season. If true, that is some seriously shitty team management by Hopkins.

    Doogman would find a way to blame the shit season on the one decent player on the team.

    Fuck them.
    Ty needs more time being resurrected on the doogman basketball bored


    "Feel bad...
    For HC Hopkins. By all accounts this is a decent man with great BB pedigree who came and connected with a community and resurrected this program from mediocracy.

    This year, unfortunately, he gets saddled with a terrific dunderhead like McDaniels who sabotages key games at key moments. He knows they'll pack the box against Stewart but not a single one of the perimeter guys can sink a shot when the team needs it. Green totally misreads the "fine print" on transfer that he actually needs to succeed in school to play BB here, and that sets the whole tone for the season. The team gets a second half lead and then goes to sleep. The players are simply not listening to the coaches.

    What a waste for a fine man"
    Blame the players for the coaches failure.

    LRR
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  • BaldwinIVBaldwinIV Member Posts: 797
    edited February 2020
    Don't think so. Find me a P5 OC hire that screamed 'categorical failure' more than Donovan. Remember, unproven OCs or 1st-time OCs at least give you the "I hope he turns out good" card to play. With Donovan you have multiple instances of extreme incompetence, including finishing 111th at PSU which is a program very similar to ours in the Big Ten. And then rotting away in the NFL as the secretarial assistant to the running backs coach of a dead, soon-to-be-fired staff. It's a 0/10. Not even a 1/10.

    It's the worst on paper OC P5 hire of the modern era.
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  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,730 Standard Supporter
    ntxduck said:

    bananasnblondes said:

    Kim Grinolds and some other dawgman people are pedaling this notion that Sam Timmons was forced to give up his jersey # to Isaiah Stewart and that caused a morale hit with the team that snowballed into the shitshow that has been this season. If true, that is some seriously shitty team management by Hopkins.

    Jfc. There’s 0 chance this is true, and if it is, a team that is so mentally weak that they get upset over something as stupid as this is going nowhere
    well we? kind of went nowhere
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  • insinceredawginsinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    BaldwinIV said:

    Cohen is in for a rough year. Hopkins is flaming out to a degree of failure never remotely imagined. Lake almost assuredly will be a massive bust, as evidenced by his hiring of Donovan which might be the worst OC hire in the history of college football. Both are first-time HCs learning on the job, massively, massively in over their heads. At an elite university and with the tools and recruiting base to succeed quickly and sustainably.

    Embarrassing.

    Women's hoops is in the shitter too. Year 3 of Wynn and there's been zero improvement. What a great time to announce the new basketball facility!
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  • insinceredawginsinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    BaldwinIV said:

    Don't think so. Find me a P5 OC hire that screamed 'categorical failure' more than Donovan. Remember, unproven OCs or 1st-time OCs at least give you the "I hope he turns out good" card to play. With Donovan you have multiple instances of extreme incompetence, including finishing 111th at PSU which is a program very similar to ours in the Big Ten. And then rotting away in the NFL as the secretarial assistant to the running backs coach of a dead, soon-to-be-fired staff. It's a 0/10. Not even a 1/10.

    It's the worst on paper OC P5 hire of the modern era.

    but but but he talked to Joe Brady once so he must be good!
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,812 Founders Club
    insinceredawg said:

    BaldwinIV said:

    Don't think so. Find me a P5 OC hire that screamed 'categorical failure' more than Donovan. Remember, unproven OCs or 1st-time OCs at least give you the "I hope he turns out good" card to play. With Donovan you have multiple instances of extreme incompetence, including finishing 111th at PSU which is a program very similar to ours in the Big Ten. And then rotting away in the NFL as the secretarial assistant to the running backs coach of a dead, soon-to-be-fired staff. It's a 0/10. Not even a 1/10.

    It's the worst on paper OC P5 hire of the modern era.

    but but but he talked to Joe Brady once so he must be good!
    And he brushed the sleeve of Sean McVey once
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  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,931
    This team is the definition of The Disease of Me
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