You all laugh, but this was a real live debate over at Doogman years back. It morphed into a state level debate where people were comparing / competing over which state had the better geographical topography and greater natural beauty. CastlerockRon/royotis was throwing down for Washington, arguing that Oregon just didn't have an answer for Mt. Rayonier. There were protracted arguments between morons over whether Olympic National Park was better than Crescent Lake, etc. etc.
This literally went on for months and people were taking it seriously.
So who won?!!
Washington, of course.
Lake Chelan was the tie breaker. The Oregonians had no answer.
I have to go with Oregon from a geological / topography perspective. I prefer Bachelor to any of the WA ski resorts although Seattle is way closer to Whistler. Oregon's wine country is way better than Washington's. Oregon coast is better too. The Bend / Sunriver area is fantastic.
This is my point exactly. It turns into a dick measuring contest over who has better ski resorts, wineries, weed, breweries, mountain ranges, coastline, beaches, hiking etc. Now imagine living in fucking Dallas, Houston, Atlanta etc. for a bit and realizing how pedantic that argument is when you have (almost) none of those.
One thing is certain, Eastern Oregon>>>>Eastern Washington and it's not even close. Love me some Eastern Oregon.
Heh, was about to come say the opposite. Other than Bend/Redmond, Eastern Oregon sucks in my opinion. Difference being no Columbia River to moisten up the joint.
Eastern Oregon's got Bend (technically central but east of the mountains so whatever), Steens Mountain, the Alvord Desert, the Wallowas, the Elkhorns, Newberry, the Oregon Outback, and the Columbia River also... The list goes on. For outdoorsy, Eastern O has Eastern WA licked.
One thing is certain, Eastern Oregon>>>>Eastern Washington and it's not even close. Love me some Eastern Oregon.
Heh, was about to come say the opposite. Other than Bend/Redmond, Eastern Oregon sucks in my opinion. Difference being no Columbia River to moisten up the joint.
Eastern Oregon's got Bend (technically central but east of the mountains so whatever), Steens Mountain, the Alvord Desert, the Wallowas, the Elkhorns, Newberry, the Oregon Outback, and the Columbia River also... The list goes on. For outdoorsy, Eastern O has Eastern WA licked.
All that is true. Smith Rocks and all that are very cool.
That said, my favorite land area anywhere is north central Washington and the greater Chelan Valley. That area, which is the analog to Canada's Okanogan, is heaven on earth for me.
You all laugh, but this was a real live debate over at Doogman years back. It morphed into a state level debate where people were comparing / competing over which state had the better geographical topography and greater natural beauty. CastlerockRon/royotis was throwing down for Washington, arguing that Oregon just didn't have an answer for Mt. Rayonier. There were protracted arguments between morons over whether Olympic National Park was better than Crescent Lake, etc. etc.
This literally went on for months and people were taking it seriously.
So who won?!!
Washington, of course.
Lake Chelan was the tie breaker. The Oregonians had no answer.
I have to go with Oregon from a geological / topography perspective. I prefer Bachelor to any of the WA ski resorts although Seattle is way closer to Whistler. Oregon's wine country is way better than Washington's. Oregon coast is better too. The Bend / Sunriver area is fantastic.
One thing is certain, Eastern Oregon>>>>Eastern Washington and it's not even close. Love me some Eastern Oregon.
Heh, was about to come say the opposite. Other than Bend/Redmond, Eastern Oregon sucks in my opinion. Difference being no Columbia River to moisten up the joint.
Eastern Oregon's got Bend (technically central but east of the mountains so whatever), Steens Mountain, the Alvord Desert, the Wallowas, the Elkhorns, Newberry, the Oregon Outback, and the Columbia River also... The list goes on. For outdoorsy, Eastern O has Eastern WA licked.
The Selkirks, Palouse Falls and Lake Roosevelt say kiss my lily white ass.
And anybody who thinks swill out of Oregon is in the same league as Walla Walla and the Columbia Basin is out of their fucking mind.
Portland and Seattle, Washington and Oregon - those are the same things. If you think the place you’re taking shits is better or different then you’re wrong.
Same shit. Trees, rain, hobos. Just a few degrees latitude difference. Amazon, Microsoft, Intel, Nike. Same shit.
Sales tax and pumping gas are the difference, that’s it. We have to rely on our football teams to tell us what is better.
Seattle is objectively superior to Portland, and I say this as someone who hates both cities.
Same exact shit. It’s the same city, just two hours away. I have to spend time in both, and there’s no difference. Portland has better food, Seattle is less stabby.
As someone who likes both Seattle and Portland, they are way fucking different
Seattle is an international city with a fuckton of business and construction going on. It feels like living in a big city to live here and work downtown
Portland is what you get if you combined Tacoma, Eugene, and Spokane. Fun to visit and go to clubs in. Not a big city feeling. Walking around feels like youre in Tacoma.
Not to mention there's a significant difference in geography (sorry creep) throughout the rest of each respective state. The sound and islands are uniquely WA, and there's an actual mountain range running through the spine of the state. OR meanwhile has a developed coast line that WA doesn't have, yet outside of a few isolated peaks, lacks an actual range. Then there's the huge differences between the two cities that you brought up.
I'm not going to dive into the dick measuring contest between the two, but it's incredibly stupid to try to make the case that the two states are one and the same. They're not. This is not an Iowa versus Nebraska case study.
There's an actual mountain range running through Oregon. The difference in actual height of the range is hard to discern and is a detail to the average outdoorsman. Agreed on the Sound. Coastal Oregon is just better than coastal Washington except for the ONP stretch which competes well, but Oregon wins the coast thing hands down, and not just because of development.
They are not exactly the same but they share many, many similarities. Oregon has a lot of very beautiful wilderness areas ... that was the point of my post. Two idiots once tried to make this an actual debate, when there's really nothing to debate.
About 1/2 dozen of my favorite places in the world are in Washington and about 1/2 dozen are in Oregon. The Sound is pretty to look at but island life in the Sound, and the Sound itself, isn't in my wheelhouse. We like to take a ferry ride now and then but I'm a freshwater guy up here and a salt water guy in the tropics. Never, ever the other way around.
Anderson island would like to have a word with you about fresh water in the Sound.
One thing is certain, Eastern Oregon>>>>Eastern Washington and it's not even close. Love me some Eastern Oregon.
Heh, was about to come say the opposite. Other than Bend/Redmond, Eastern Oregon sucks in my opinion. Difference being no Columbia River to moisten up the joint.
Eastern Oregon's got Bend (technically central but east of the mountains so whatever), Steens Mountain, the Alvord Desert, the Wallowas, the Elkhorns, Newberry, the Oregon Outback, and the Columbia River also... The list goes on. For outdoorsy, Eastern O has Eastern WA licked.
The Selkirks, Palouse Falls and Lake Roosevelt say kiss my lily white ass.
And anybody who thinks swill out of Oregon is in the same league as Walla Walla and the Columbia Basin is out of their fucking mind.
E. WA doesn’t begin and end at Lake Chelan.
Man. I haven't disagreed with you about this many things in one post in a loooong tim.
I'm just going to focus on the most egregious of those comments: Yes. Yes, it does.
Portland and Seattle, Washington and Oregon - those are the same things. If you think the place you’re taking shits is better or different then you’re wrong.
Same shit. Trees, rain, hobos. Just a few degrees latitude difference. Amazon, Microsoft, Intel, Nike. Same shit.
Sales tax and pumping gas are the difference, that’s it. We have to rely on our football teams to tell us what is better.
Seattle is objectively superior to Portland, and I say this as someone who hates both cities.
Same exact shit. It’s the same city, just two hours away. I have to spend time in both, and there’s no difference. Portland has better food, Seattle is less stabby.
As someone who likes both Seattle and Portland, they are way fucking different
Seattle is an international city with a fuckton of business and construction going on. It feels like living in a big city to live here and work downtown
Portland is what you get if you combined Tacoma, Eugene, and Spokane. Fun to visit and go to clubs in. Not a big city feeling. Walking around feels like youre in Tacoma.
Not to mention there's a significant difference in geography (sorry creep) throughout the rest of each respective state. The sound and islands are uniquely WA, and there's an actual mountain range running through the spine of the state. OR meanwhile has a developed coast line that WA doesn't have, yet outside of a few isolated peaks, lacks an actual range. Then there's the huge differences between the two cities that you brought up.
I'm not going to dive into the dick measuring contest between the two, but it's incredibly stupid to try to make the case that the two states are one and the same. They're not. This is not an Iowa versus Nebraska case study.
Except for the Cascades, which only run through the entire state.
One thing is certain, Eastern Oregon>>>>Eastern Washington and it's not even close. Love me some Eastern Oregon.
Heh, was about to come say the opposite. Other than Bend/Redmond, Eastern Oregon sucks in my opinion. Difference being no Columbia River to moisten up the joint.
Eastern Oregon's got Bend (technically central but east of the mountains so whatever), Steens Mountain, the Alvord Desert, the Wallowas, the Elkhorns, Newberry, the Oregon Outback, and the Columbia River also... The list goes on. For outdoorsy, Eastern O has Eastern WA licked.
The Selkirks, Palouse Falls and Lake Roosevelt say kiss my lily white ass.
And anybody who thinks swill out of Oregon is in the same league as Walla Walla and the Columbia Basin is out of their fucking mind.
E. WA doesn’t begin and end at Lake Chelan.
Not saying E. WA is bad. It's great. You're right... The Selkirks, Chelan, the Palouse, etc... All great. But I'll take E. Oregon 9 times out of 10 vs. E. WA. It's a different league. Not many understand the splendor of E. Oregon.
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That said, my favorite land area anywhere is north central Washington and the greater Chelan Valley. That area, which is the analog to Canada's Okanogan, is heaven on earth for me.
Glacier carved fjords are cool af.
Also, why do you hate the San Juan Islands?
What kind of monster are you???
These people Are shelter challenged!!!
And anybody who thinks swill out of Oregon is in the same league as Walla Walla and the Columbia Basin is out of their fucking mind.
E. WA doesn’t begin and end at Lake Chelan.
Literally sark>ty poty.
I'm just going to focus on the most egregious of those comments: Yes. Yes, it does.
I'll take Washington in this one. Say, 7 to 3 in a battle of the retards.
As a whole though, WA > O.