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How is Trump going to handle the immigration issue come election time?
oregonblitzkrieg
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He's been an abysmal failure on this, his supposed signature issue. He's been nothing but talk and hot air. A big windbag. There is still no wall. Invaders are pouring in by the millions. His administration is either complicit or incompetent. Likely both. The other side is for open borders. So is Trump apparently. He's done NOTHING to stop the invasion. He's been so spineless that he even backed down on putting real pressure on the communist president of Mexico.
It will take some yuge action on his part to get many of his former supporters back on his side again, big action to get these supporters to pick up a ballot and vote him in again.
It will take some yuge action on his part to get many of his former supporters back on his side again, big action to get these supporters to pick up a ballot and vote him in again.
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Trump will win that argument easy...
Btw, why do you blame the moderator? Shouldn't the candidates be blamed for how they answered?
The moderator who asked those questions - the guy who asked a few questions in Spanish - I assume was hand picked as part of some hackneyed attempt at appearing ethnic and inclusive. Ok, fair enough. At least there's some strategy. But then he asks a question that is going to alienate the political center. Stupid.
They don't need to ask that question. What are the people sympathetic to that view going to do? Vote for Trump?
If the guy was actually representative of the Cuban community and it was in fact an attempt to cull the dummies and ID who will support paying for such a program, then I applaud them for at least being honest and transparent in running the debate. In that case, the DNC should have sent these idiots a memo about what happens when D candidates align themselves with fringe social issues and forget their historic working class base.
I said this in another post: it's too back Hickenlooper is such a shadow and unknown. He has a solid background as a governor, and he seems to be a political moderate and maybe even lean a little to the right of center on the economy, more than once make his position on socialism known. But he probably doesn't stand a chance.
Can you explain to Trump voters why he's a racist and talk about the extra security you have now?
Our independent media at work
He campaigns on winning the house by fixing it and actually wins the house he will have to do something...its gotten bad enough his base might not even scream about the Dreamers as much.
I would guess part of his problem is that he thought if he did tax cuts and "fixed" immigration (in a half-assed way because Paul Ryan and company wouldn't have signed off on much) in the first 2 years he's have nothing to run on (and would have pissed off part of his base) and would be a lame duck...don't agree, but my opinion isn't important.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/07/15/michigan-swing-voters-blast-2020-democrats-on-immigration-we-need-to-focus-on-americans/
“Michigan swing voters are, by a majority, siding with President Trump’s “America First” immigration agenda and blasting plans by 2020 Democrat presidential primary candidates to open the United States-Mexico border, decriminalize illegal immigration, and provide free healthcare to all illegal aliens.
An Axios report which chronicled a focus group of Michigan swing voters — those who voted for Mitt Romney in 2012, but switched to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and those who voted for Barack Obama twice, but switched to vote for Trump in 2016 — finds that by a majority these voters prefer Trump’s low-immigration, high-wage economic model as opposed to the 2020 Democrats’ plans to allow an unlimited flow of foreign workers to the country, legally and illegally.”
A recent Zogby Analytics poll, conducted for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, surveyed Michigan voters on a number of immigration issues and found that a majority support Trump’s immigration agenda.
For instance, more than 54 percent of Michigan voters said they support ending the country’s mass importation of legal low-wage foreign workers, nearly half said they support ending the process known as “chain migration” whereby newly naturalized citizens can bring an unlimited number of foreign relatives to the country, 77 percent said they support a nationwide ban on employers hiring illegal aliens, and 55 percent said they are more likely to support a 2020 presidential candidate who agrees with the details of these plans.
Mandatory E-Verify, which is part of President Trump’s most recent immigration plan, gets sweeping support from the overwhelming majority of likely American voters in swing states such as Arizona, Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
The latest Zogby Analytics poll conducted for the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) finds that across these six swing states, support for nationwide, mandatory E-Verify ranges from 75 percent to nearly 82 percent among all likely voters.
you are right that trump has failed on his signature issue.
The Actual Pauline Kael Quote—Not As Bad, and Worse
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/culture-civilization/the-actual-pauline-kael-quote—not-as-bad-and-worse/
“The clearest example of the bizarrely naive quality of hermetic liberal provincialism was attributed to the New Yorker film critic Pauline Kael almost 40 years ago, and has been discussed in right-wing circles ever since. It went something like this: “I can’t believe Nixon won. I don’t know anyone who voted for him.” Several years ago, I went on an admittedly desultory search for the original quote and was unable to locate it.”
The unfortunate fact is that Democrats are underwater on the immigration issue like almost every policy position.