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Vega Ioane, 2022 3* OL, Graham (Graham-Kapowsin), WA (respect his decision)

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  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990
    Huff (and Jen) needs to go
  • Geevis_and_Butthead
    Geevis_and_Butthead Member Posts: 1,000
    chuck said:

    It's the only thing Deboner has done so far that really leaves me scratching my head.

    Was keeping Junior Adams any different than retaining Huff based on what we saw from the WR's the past couple years?

    Or bringing along six assistants from Fresno State?

    Or hiring a guy who hasn't coached on the West Coast in a decade to be the program's "in" with the Polynesian community?

    DeBoer's track record indicates he's probably a pretty good coach, but I don't get the sense he has a good feel for what it takes to thread the needle to be truly successful at UW.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,717 Founders Club

    chuck said:

    It's the only thing Deboner has done so far that really leaves me scratching my head.

    Was keeping Junior Adams any different than retaining Huff based on what we saw from the WR's the past couple years?

    Or bringing along six assistants from Fresno State?

    Or hiring a guy who hasn't coached on the West Coast in a decade to be the program's "in" with the Polynesian community?

    DeBoer's track record indicates he's probably a pretty good coach, but I don't get the sense he has a good feel for what it takes to thread the needle to be truly successful at UW.

    On the job training doesn't train itself

  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,155

    chuck said:

    It's the only thing Deboner has done so far that really leaves me scratching my head.

    Was keeping Junior Adams any different than retaining Huff based on what we saw from the WR's the past couple years?

    Or bringing along six assistants from Fresno State?

    Or hiring a guy who hasn't coached on the West Coast in a decade to be the program's "in" with the Polynesian community?

    DeBoer's track record indicates he's probably a pretty good coach, but I don't get the sense he has a good feel for what it takes to thread the needle to be truly successful at UW.

    Sounds like we should LIPO
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    It's the only thing Deboner has done so far that really leaves me scratching my head.

    Was keeping Junior Adams any different than retaining Huff based on what we saw from the WR's the past couple years?

    Or bringing along six assistants from Fresno State?

    Or hiring a guy who hasn't coached on the West Coast in a decade to be the program's "in" with the Polynesian community?

    DeBoer's track record indicates he's probably a pretty good coach, but I don't get the sense he has a good feel for what it takes to thread the needle to be truly successful at UW.

    Adams is gone. The new guy got what he wanted but wasn't offered. I'll give a passing grade on that.

    Also no issues with his other hires. It's obvious the checkbook was never open as far as we were led to believe, so he opted for guys he knew he could work with.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    edited February 2022
    Let’s be honest, even if uw got the kid. He would still be a soft piece of shit under Huff. Dude can’t coach
  • TrumpsWall
    TrumpsWall Member Posts: 476
  • RealRhino
    RealRhino Member Posts: 615
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    There is some noise out there suggesting Vega was planning on signing with UW up until his in-home meeting with DeBoer.


    Thats....concerning

    Yikes
  • BeerThirty
    BeerThirty Member Posts: 2,465
    He won't be there more than 2 years.
  • KrunkJuice
    KrunkJuice Member Posts: 2,070

    As pathetic as it sounds, we will get at least two of those guys when they transfer. They will probably transfer because they suck, but still.

    Agbo and Nabou are gonna get recruited over by next year. Vega less so because Franklin isn't as ruthless as Sark and Jimbo.
  • Geevis_and_Butthead
    Geevis_and_Butthead Member Posts: 1,000
    edited February 2022

    As pathetic as it sounds, we will get at least two of those guys when they transfer. They will probably transfer because they suck, but still.

    Agbo and Nabou are gonna get recruited over by next year. Vega less so because Franklin isn't as ruthless as Sark and Jimbo.
    What part of 5-7, 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, 8-4, 9-4, 3-2, 5-7, fired by USC and fired by the Falcons indicates Sark is ruthless?
  • RealRhino
    RealRhino Member Posts: 615

    As pathetic as it sounds, we will get at least two of those guys when they transfer. They will probably transfer because they suck, but still.

    Just thought of it now: My policy as the coach would be in-state guys don't get to transfer back. Fuck 'em, let 'em go to Oregon State or Fresneck or join the other Ford at Idaho (St.?). You leave chasing clout, fuck off when you come crawling back. You aren't who I'd want, anyway.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,155

    As pathetic as it sounds, we will get at least two of those guys when they transfer. They will probably transfer because they suck, but still.

    Agbo and Nabou are gonna get recruited over by next year. Vega less so because Franklin isn't as ruthless as Sark and Jimbo.
    What part of 5-7, 7-6, 7-6, 7-6, 8-4, 9-4, 3-2, 5-7, fired by USC and fired by the Falcons indicates Sark is ruthless?
    Ruthlessly mediocre
  • DawgtillDeath
    DawgtillDeath Member Posts: 155
    RealRhino said:

    As pathetic as it sounds, we will get at least two of those guys when they transfer. They will probably transfer because they suck, but still.

    Just thought of it now: My policy as the coach would be in-state guys don't get to transfer back. Fuck 'em, let 'em go to Oregon State or Fresneck or join the other Ford at Idaho (St.?). You leave chasing clout, fuck off when you come crawling back. You aren't who I'd want, anyway.
    So you would tell good players that would upgrade our roster to fuck off because you were butt hurt they didn't pick UDUB out of highschool?
  • RealRhino
    RealRhino Member Posts: 615

    RealRhino said:

    As pathetic as it sounds, we will get at least two of those guys when they transfer. They will probably transfer because they suck, but still.

    Just thought of it now: My policy as the coach would be in-state guys don't get to transfer back. Fuck 'em, let 'em go to Oregon State or Fresneck or join the other Ford at Idaho (St.?). You leave chasing clout, fuck off when you come crawling back. You aren't who I'd want, anyway.
    So you would tell good players that would upgrade our roster to fuck off because you were butt hurt they didn't pick UDUB out of highschool?
    Yup. #1, they probably aren't upgrading the roster that much. If they were that good, they'd stay where they are. #2, if they fall for some of that bullshit that makes them think it's better at PSU or Oregon or whatever, and then they quit when they don't get the instant gratification, I'm not sure they're the kind of serious player I'd want on my roster anyway.

    I don't want in-state kids thinking, "Oh, I'll try to make it at Clemson, and if I don't, no big deal, I can always just come back to Washington. I'm not interested in being a safety school for these guys.



  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam
    RealRhino said:

    RealRhino said:

    As pathetic as it sounds, we will get at least two of those guys when they transfer. They will probably transfer because they suck, but still.

    Just thought of it now: My policy as the coach would be in-state guys don't get to transfer back. Fuck 'em, let 'em go to Oregon State or Fresneck or join the other Ford at Idaho (St.?). You leave chasing clout, fuck off when you come crawling back. You aren't who I'd want, anyway.
    So you would tell good players that would upgrade our roster to fuck off because you were butt hurt they didn't pick UDUB out of highschool?
    Yup. #1, they probably aren't upgrading the roster that much. If they were that good, they'd stay where they are. #2, if they fall for some of that bullshit that makes them think it's better at PSU or Oregon or whatever, and then they quit when they don't get the instant gratification, I'm not sure they're the kind of serious player I'd want on my roster anyway.

    I don't want in-state kids thinking, "Oh, I'll try to make it at Clemson, and if I don't, no big deal, I can always just come back to Washington. I'm not interested in being a safety school for these guys.



    The thing you've ignored in your posts on this subject is that transfers aren't happening for the same old reasons. It's now free agency and players who are upgrades to almost any roster are taking part in it.

    What you're really saying, given the new environment, is that you don't want players who follow the best offer rather than committing ti a program. I'm afraid that's not going to be a viable approach anymore. The programs willing to play that game can and will buy their way into contention.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,198
    We’ll never forget Sark’s magical 8-4 campaign….
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    I’m not convinced saying that local players that leave aren’t welcomed back is a good idea …

    But I’m also not convinced that there aren’t valid points within the take
  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795

    Sark is getting fired during these guy’s redshirt season. I doubt he makes it to next year.

    Texas has to play Bama week 2. Bring the plungers
  • KrunkJuice
    KrunkJuice Member Posts: 2,070
    NEsnake12 said:

    Sark is getting fired during these guy’s redshirt season. I doubt he makes it to next year.

    Texas has to play Bama week 2. Bring the plungers