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  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    Sac - with Pepe to USC and Dewark trending there, the pecking order is clear.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,789
    dtd said:

    dnc said:

    dtd said:

    dnc said:

    DJDuck said:

    As of now these are the class rankings of schools we are talking about:

    #11 Oregon

    #54 Washington

    #60 USC

    Facts about 3 star recruits in this years class

    Clemson has FIVE 3 star commits

    Alabama has THREE 3 star commits

    LSU has FIVE 3 star commits

    Raw numbers are meaningless at this point, the only thing that matters (for a school that has any decent ability to recruit anyway) are percentages.

    Clemson: 4 3 stars out of 18 commits = 87.8% blue chips, overall average score of 94.56 (1st)
    Bama: 3 3 stars out of 15 commits = 80% blue chips, overall average score of 93.35 (4th)
    LSU: 5 3 stars out of 20 commits = 75% blue chips, overall average score of 92.47 (5th)
    Oregon: 7 3 stars out of 13 commits = 46.15% blue chips, overall average score of 89.58 (19th)
    Washington: 3 3 stars out of 6 commits = 50% blue chips, overall average score of 89.06 (21st)

    Washington and Oregon's classes are roughly equal right now. You can argue Oregon's is better because fuller is better than emptier, but OTOH Oregon's top commit in these calculations isn't really committed to them and Washington's class is definitely trending better of late.

    I'm honestly kind of surprised by how much Oregon's recruiting momentum has slowed down, I didn't expect that. Ever since the shit they pulled with Smalls it's like they can only take 3 stars. It's almost like karma's a bitch...
    This is fair, but come on, it's a lot easier to shoot 50% from 3 on 2 attempts per game.
    True, but when you're talking about a program which took 15 four stars and 8 3 stars last year, but is at 50-50 right now, I'd rather have more spots open than more spots filled in that scenario.
    I mean, yeah, UW is recruiting very very well, but dudes are committing earlier and earlier and the number of blue chip prospects later in the recruiting cycle is lower and lower. You'd rather have 3/6 than 6/13 because one time ever y'all got more than 50% 4 stars? And yes, it's awfully fucking hot for February. Also, the whole stars thing is bullshit. The rating makes a helluva lot more sense.
    I understand your reasoning and it's fairly sound. Based on the kids UW is in on, I feel confident we are going to do better than 50%.

    I agree the number rating thing is better than stars. The star concept is decent in theory but awful in practice. There's just way too much disparity between the top 3 stars and the bottom.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,789
    lawsandl said:

    dtd said:

    DJDuck said:

    Well Oregon has at least won a playoff game and been in two NC games. I don’t think any other PAC 12 team has won a playoff game. I could be wrong. We won that game and with it the Rose Bowl.

    It’s a tell that you have to keep trying to have to convince yourself of where UW is compared to others. It speaks to your insecurity.😂

    Yeah two head coaches ago. What have they done lately?
    https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401012766

    Nothing else matters, amiright?

    It was a good win for Oregon. The walk off 6 may be a pivotal moment for the program. However, do remember Oregon fans are less than five years off playing for an NC. No one is settling for a victory against a rival.
    It could have been a pivotal moment but then you? played like shit the rest of the year.
  • dtddtd Member Posts: 5,035 Standard Supporter
    salemcoog said:

    DJDuck said:

    Well Oregon has at least won a playoff game and been in two NC games. I don’t think any other PAC 12 team has won a playoff game. I could be wrong. We won that game and with it the Rose Bowl.

    It’s a tell that you have to keep trying to have to convince yourself of where UW is compared to others. It speaks to your insecurity.😂

    It's moar of a tell that the CFP has only been around a few years and you don't know which Pac 12 teams have won playoff games.
    huh?
  • dtddtd Member Posts: 5,035 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    dtd said:

    DJDuck said:

    Well Oregon has at least won a playoff game and been in two NC games. I don’t think any other PAC 12 team has won a playoff game. I could be wrong. We won that game and with it the Rose Bowl.

    It’s a tell that you have to keep trying to have to convince yourself of where UW is compared to others. It speaks to your insecurity.😂

    Yeah two head coaches ago. What have they done lately?
    https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401012766

    Nothing else matters, amiright?

    It was a good win for Oregon. The walk off 6 may be a pivotal moment for the program. However, do remember Oregon fans are less than five years off playing for an NC. No one is settling for a victory against a rival.
    It could have been a pivotal moment but then you? played like shit the rest of the year.
    FWIT, they played like shit before that too.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,789
    dtd said:

    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    dtd said:

    DJDuck said:

    Well Oregon has at least won a playoff game and been in two NC games. I don’t think any other PAC 12 team has won a playoff game. I could be wrong. We won that game and with it the Rose Bowl.

    It’s a tell that you have to keep trying to have to convince yourself of where UW is compared to others. It speaks to your insecurity.😂

    Yeah two head coaches ago. What have they done lately?
    https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401012766

    Nothing else matters, amiright?

    It was a good win for Oregon. The walk off 6 may be a pivotal moment for the program. However, do remember Oregon fans are less than five years off playing for an NC. No one is settling for a victory against a rival.
    It could have been a pivotal moment but then you? played like shit the rest of the year.
    FWIT, they played like shit before that too.
    I mean you were 5-1 and ranked #12 after that game. I agree it was an optimistic view but you certainly had a chance for that win to galvanize some things and spring you guys forward.
  • PetermanPeterman Member Posts: 675

    I like to brag about winning a semi game under Helfrich while blaming him for the last three years of dreck

    Is that what you like to do??
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    dtd said:

    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    dtd said:

    DJDuck said:

    Well Oregon has at least won a playoff game and been in two NC games. I don’t think any other PAC 12 team has won a playoff game. I could be wrong. We won that game and with it the Rose Bowl.

    It’s a tell that you have to keep trying to have to convince yourself of where UW is compared to others. It speaks to your insecurity.😂

    Yeah two head coaches ago. What have they done lately?
    https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401012766

    Nothing else matters, amiright?

    It was a good win for Oregon. The walk off 6 may be a pivotal moment for the program. However, do remember Oregon fans are less than five years off playing for an NC. No one is settling for a victory against a rival.
    It could have been a pivotal moment but then you? played like shit the rest of the year.
    FWIT, they played like shit before that too.
    Oregon went 4-7, 7-5 and 9-4. It’s almost like there’s a trend. Will Oregon bust through and win 10? Who knows? The walk off six certainly will give the team confidence that they can play with anyone in this league.

    Now proceed with Cristobal = Sark.
  • IPukeOregonGrellowIPukeOregonGrellow Member Posts: 2,183

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    Someone got pancakes block too. Must mean they’re weak.

    That was a walk-on and it wasn't a pancake. It was a hold as he was reaching to make the tackle and then a block in the back to the ground and wasn't called. We all know Oregon got lucky. Do I need to post pictures of UW's championship trophy?
    Block in the back...lol

    Uh yeah watch the play. Bronson reaches to making the tackle and the Oregon lineman holds him and then blocks him in the back and falls on him. That's not a pancake. That's a penalty. Home cooking. Won't happen this season. 135-54. #1 in the North. Conference Champs.




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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,802 Founders Club
    lawsandl said:

    dtd said:

    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    dtd said:

    DJDuck said:

    Well Oregon has at least won a playoff game and been in two NC games. I don’t think any other PAC 12 team has won a playoff game. I could be wrong. We won that game and with it the Rose Bowl.

    It’s a tell that you have to keep trying to have to convince yourself of where UW is compared to others. It speaks to your insecurity.😂

    Yeah two head coaches ago. What have they done lately?
    https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401012766

    Nothing else matters, amiright?

    It was a good win for Oregon. The walk off 6 may be a pivotal moment for the program. However, do remember Oregon fans are less than five years off playing for an NC. No one is settling for a victory against a rival.
    It could have been a pivotal moment but then you? played like shit the rest of the year.
    FWIT, they played like shit before that too.
    Oregon went 4-7, 7-5 and 9-4. It’s almost like there’s a trend. Will Oregon bust through and win 10? Who knows? The walk off six certainly will give the team confidence that they can play with anyone in this league.

    Now proceed with Cristobal = Sark.
    OK


  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,802 Founders Club
    It is nice that @lawsandl admits that UW is the standard of the league
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    It is nice that @lawsandl admits that UW is the standard of the league

    It’s hard to argue otherwise.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    lawsandl said:

    Sac - with Pepe to USC and Dewark trending there, the pecking order is clear.

    Uh yeah it is. USC and Oregon scraping the bottom of the barrel. USC still ahead of Oregon in the pecking order. UW didn't offer either of those guys.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    Someone got pancakes block too. Must mean they’re weak.

    That was a walk-on and it wasn't a pancake. It was a hold as he was reaching to make the tackle and then a block in the back to the ground and wasn't called. We all know Oregon got lucky. Do I need to post pictures of UW's championship trophy?
    Block in the back...lol

    Uh yeah watch the play. Bronson reaches to making the tackle and the Oregon lineman holds him and then blocks him in the back and falls on him. That's not a pancake. That's a penalty. Home cooking. Won't happen this season. 135-54. #1 in the North. Conference Champs.




    image

    Lol a freeze frame before Bronson reaches to make the tackle and the hold occurs. FAIL.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    lawsandl said:

    dtd said:

    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    dtd said:

    DJDuck said:

    Well Oregon has at least won a playoff game and been in two NC games. I don’t think any other PAC 12 team has won a playoff game. I could be wrong. We won that game and with it the Rose Bowl.

    It’s a tell that you have to keep trying to have to convince yourself of where UW is compared to others. It speaks to your insecurity.😂

    Yeah two head coaches ago. What have they done lately?
    https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401012766

    Nothing else matters, amiright?

    It was a good win for Oregon. The walk off 6 may be a pivotal moment for the program. However, do remember Oregon fans are less than five years off playing for an NC. No one is settling for a victory against a rival.
    It could have been a pivotal moment but then you? played like shit the rest of the year.
    FWIT, they played like shit before that too.
    Oregon went 4-7, 7-5 and 9-4. It’s almost like there’s a trend. Will Oregon bust through and win 10? Who knows? The walk off six certainly will give the team confidence that they can play with anyone in this league.

    Now proceed with Cristobal = Sark.
    And now they're gonna plateau at 7-8 win seasons. Ah yes, the old "we beat this team that's better than us so now we can play with anybody" bullshit. Been there, done that.
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    lawsandl said:

    Sac - with Pepe to USC and Dewark trending there, the pecking order is clear.

    Uh yeah it is. USC and Oregon scraping the bottom of the barrel. USC still ahead of Oregon in the pecking order. UW didn't offer either of those guys.
    Dewark visited and was never offered. Pepe’s was not committable and never was. This was said well before USC ever offered.
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    Someone got pancakes block too. Must mean they’re weak.

    That was a walk-on and it wasn't a pancake. It was a hold as he was reaching to make the tackle and then a block in the back to the ground and wasn't called. We all know Oregon got lucky. Do I need to post pictures of UW's championship trophy?
    Block in the back...lol

    Uh yeah watch the play. Bronson reaches to making the tackle and the Oregon lineman holds him and then blocks him in the back and falls on him. That's not a pancake. That's a penalty. Home cooking. Won't happen this season. 135-54. #1 in the North. Conference Champs.




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    Lol a freeze frame before Bronson reaches to make the tackle and the hold occurs. FAIL.
    C,mon Sac. Bronson lunges and anything remotely resembling a hold is well after the TD.
  • IPukeOregonGrellowIPukeOregonGrellow Member Posts: 2,183

    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    Someone got pancakes block too. Must mean they’re weak.

    That was a walk-on and it wasn't a pancake. It was a hold as he was reaching to make the tackle and then a block in the back to the ground and wasn't called. We all know Oregon got lucky. Do I need to post pictures of UW's championship trophy?
    Block in the back...lol

    Uh yeah watch the play. Bronson reaches to making the tackle and the Oregon lineman holds him and then blocks him in the back and falls on him. That's not a pancake. That's a penalty. Home cooking. Won't happen this season. 135-54. #1 in the North. Conference Champs.




    image

    Lol a freeze frame before Bronson reaches to make the tackle and the hold occurs. FAIL.




    image

  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    lawsandl said:

    dtd said:

    dnc said:

    lawsandl said:

    dtd said:

    DJDuck said:

    Well Oregon has at least won a playoff game and been in two NC games. I don’t think any other PAC 12 team has won a playoff game. I could be wrong. We won that game and with it the Rose Bowl.

    It’s a tell that you have to keep trying to have to convince yourself of where UW is compared to others. It speaks to your insecurity.😂

    Yeah two head coaches ago. What have they done lately?
    https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401012766

    Nothing else matters, amiright?

    It was a good win for Oregon. The walk off 6 may be a pivotal moment for the program. However, do remember Oregon fans are less than five years off playing for an NC. No one is settling for a victory against a rival.
    It could have been a pivotal moment but then you? played like shit the rest of the year.
    FWIT, they played like shit before that too.
    Oregon went 4-7, 7-5 and 9-4. It’s almost like there’s a trend. Will Oregon bust through and win 10? Who knows? The walk off six certainly will give the team confidence that they can play with anyone in this league.

    Now proceed with Cristobal = Sark.
    And now they're gonna plateau at 7-8 win seasons. Ah yes, the old "we beat this team that's better than us so now we can play with anybody" bullshit. Been there, done that.
    Right on queue.
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