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"Collusion" sets up a false choice

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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    SFGbob said:

    Why didn't Mueller charge anyone with this crime?

    He can't charge a sitting president, if that is what you mean
    But he could charge everyone at the Trump Tower meeting with that crime, so why didn't he?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    Why didn't Mueller charge anyone with this crime?

    He can't charge a sitting president, if that is what you mean
    Then the House is within rights to bring impeachment charges. Why haven't they?
    They will. There is a process.
    It's hard. It takes a minute.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,415 Founders Club
    Mueller said Trump being a sitting president was not why he wasn't charged

    But still
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    SFGbob said:

    Why didn't Mueller charge anyone with this crime?

    He can't charge a sitting president, if that is what you mean
    Then the House is within rights to bring impeachment charges. Why haven't they?
    They will. There is a process.
    But he didn't say that in his report. He could have said that we wanted to prosecute Trump but couldn't because he is the CIC. But that's not what he said. Is he in on the cover up?
  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    SFGbob said:

    And if the argument was over how many times Trump said "no collusion" or if Trump has ever used the word "collusion" you'd be kicking ass right now AoG.

    But unfortunately for you the points of contention are these claims by you:

    Collusion has always been the GOP rhetoric not the lefts

    Trump started the use of "collusion" as a means of setting up an either-or.

    And those claims are pure garbage. But keep fucking that chicken.

    Collusion hasn't "always" been part of the GOP's rhetoric. It was started by the Rats and their pals in the press. I posted a link that showed you where ABC News was using the word in July of 2016. Trump denying what he was being accused of doing isn't him "start[ing]" anything.

    Fine. So tell me then why the present Commander in Chief didn't call the FBI having his campaign meet with Russian operatives repeatedly.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,415 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    And if the argument was over how many times Trump said "no collusion" or if Trump has ever used the word "collusion" you'd be kicking ass right now AoG.

    But unfortunately for you the points of contention are these claims by you:

    Collusion has always been the GOP rhetoric not the lefts

    Trump started the use of "collusion" as a means of setting up an either-or.

    And those claims are pure garbage. But keep fucking that chicken.

    Collusion hasn't "always" been part of the GOP's rhetoric. It was started by the Rats and their pals in the press. I posted a link that showed you where ABC News was using the word in July of 2016. Trump denying what he was being accused of doing isn't him "start[ing]" anything.

    Fine. So tell me then why the present Commander in Chief didn't call the FBI having his campaign meet with Russian operatives repeatedly.
    Bullshit
  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    You guys are getting still that impeachable offenses need not be illegal
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    SFGbob said:

    And if the argument was over how many times Trump said "no collusion" or if Trump has ever used the word "collusion" you'd be kicking ass right now AoG.

    But unfortunately for you the points of contention are these claims by you:

    Collusion has always been the GOP rhetoric not the lefts

    Trump started the use of "collusion" as a means of setting up an either-or.

    And those claims are pure garbage. But keep fucking that chicken.

    Collusion hasn't "always" been part of the GOP's rhetoric. It was started by the Rats and their pals in the press. I posted a link that showed you where ABC News was using the word in July of 2016. Trump denying what he was being accused of doing isn't him "start[ing]" anything.

    Fine. So tell me then why the present Commander in Chief didn't call the FBI having his campaign meet with Russian operatives repeatedly.
    Yeah, forgot all of that earlier bullshit I claimed and focus instead on this new line of bullshit.


  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,415 Founders Club

    You guys are getting still that impeachable offenses need not be illegal

    High crimes and misdemeanors

    Go ahead and do it.
  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    And if the argument was over how many times Trump said "no collusion" or if Trump has ever used the word "collusion" you'd be kicking ass right now AoG.

    But unfortunately for you the points of contention are these claims by you:

    Collusion has always been the GOP rhetoric not the lefts

    Trump started the use of "collusion" as a means of setting up an either-or.

    And those claims are pure garbage. But keep fucking that chicken.

    Collusion hasn't "always" been part of the GOP's rhetoric. It was started by the Rats and their pals in the press. I posted a link that showed you where ABC News was using the word in July of 2016. Trump denying what he was being accused of doing isn't him "start[ing]" anything.

    Fine. So tell me then why the present Commander in Chief didn't call the FBI having his campaign meet with Russian operatives repeatedly.
    Yeah, forgot all of that earlier bullshit I claimed and focus instead on this new line of bullshit.


    No. I'm just pointing out that even if I grant you this point, my argument holds up. The argument is that he needs to be impeached regardless of collusion which is just a rhetorical device used to create a false dichotomy.