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"Collusion" sets up a false choice

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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,072
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    “All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to The Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that The Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier,” they said. “The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele.”

    The Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee retained Fusion GPS to research any possible connections between Mr. Trump, his businesses, his campaign team and Russia, court filings revealed this week. Working for them, the firm retained Christopher Steele, a respected former British intelligence officer.


    Hondo is a pathological liar who will repeat a lie long after it has been shown that his claims are false.

    Odd how there's no link for that quote.
    I got it from some disreputable rag called the NYTimes.

    What's not odd is that you're still telling the very same lie you've been telling since I arrived here and you've been shown that you claim is a lie no less than a half a dozen times and yet you still repeat your lie. Because that's what pathological liar do.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/27/us/politics/trump-dossier-paul-singer.html
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,072
    2001400ex said:

    Bob is too dumb to understand that writing the dossier is just that.... Writing it. Where do you think the information came from for the dossier? Do you think Steele ignored everything that was paid for by the free beacon?

    Seriously Bob. Do you ever wonder why no other conservative here circle jerks with you on this point or the point that Trump's team met with Russia about Democrat emails?


    “All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to The Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that The Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier,”


    Pathological liars lie, it's what they do.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,459 Founders Club
    Talking about impeachment is divisive

    It shouldn't be allowed
  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    edited May 2019
    Trump just asserted executive privilege for the redactions. What that means is that he is plainly obstructing the House from performing their constitutional oversight duty. Only the House can impeach, so with the president blocking materials about himself relevant for impeachment it is impossible to do their duty. What that means is that he needs to be impeached immediately, not later. There is no other recourse if he is blocking evidence from seeing the light of day.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,459 Founders Club

    Trump just asserted executive privilege for the redactions. What that means is that he is plainly obstructing the House from performing their constitutional oversight duty. Only the House can impeach, so with the president blocking materials about himself relevant for impeachment it is impossible to do their duty. What that means is that he needs to be impeached immediately, not later. There is no other recourse if he is blocking evidence from seeing the light of day.

    Mueller had all the documents

    Mueller signed off on the redactions

    Your being played. Stop embarrassing yourself
  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904

    Trump just asserted executive privilege for the redactions. What that means is that he is plainly obstructing the House from performing their constitutional oversight duty. Only the House can impeach, so with the president blocking materials about himself relevant for impeachment it is impossible to do their duty. What that means is that he needs to be impeached immediately, not later. There is no other recourse if he is blocking evidence from seeing the light of day.

    Mueller had all the documents

    Mueller signed off on the redactions

    Your being played. Stop embarrassing yourself
    you're
  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    Mueller didn't "sign off" on the redactions, buddy. He was consulted only. It was Barr's call
  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    anyway the redactions being removed are not going to be made public immediately. It's just redactions needed by the House to stay in the House.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,072
    Some of the redactions are of Grand Jury testimony. By law that information can't be released publicly. Congress is trying to compel the AG to violate the law.

    This move by the House is nothing more than red meat for the leftwing dumbfuck vote.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,459 Founders Club
    The White House was in fact transparent and did in fact give Mueller the tons of documents he wanted and the many people he interviewed. Two and a half years later he released his report. He worked with Barr on the redactions that were required by law

    Because folks like the Apostle were lied to for 2 plus years they are now angry and confused and the idiot democrats in the House are continuing to play them for fools by acting like there is something there

    Pelosi didn't want to run on impeachment in 2018 and was rewarded with the House. She still doesn't but the morons like Nadler insist on stirring up the low information rabble with false promises of GETTING TRUMP

    It would be sad if it wasn't so pathetic
  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    SFGbob said:

    Some of the redactions are of Grand Jury testimony. By law that information can't be released publicly. Congress is trying to compel the AG to violate the law.

    This move by the House is nothing more than red meat for the leftwing dumbfuck vote.

    The information won't be released publicly, shit for brains! It's just supposed to go to the House committees, for now anyway. They hold it confidentially.

    There is no legitimate excuse at all to keep the entire report from House committees that regularly review classified materials. None whatsoever.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,655 Standard Supporter

    Trump just asserted executive privilege for the redactions. What that means is that he is plainly obstructing the House from performing their constitutional oversight duty. Only the House can impeach, so with the president blocking materials about himself relevant for impeachment it is impossible to do their duty. What that means is that he needs to be impeached immediately, not later. There is no other recourse if he is blocking evidence from seeing the light of day.

    There is no crime. Unlike when Obama did the same for Fast and Furious that resulted in the deaths or more than 100 people including American citizens and Border patrolman.

    Where were you then?

    Hypocrite
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,072
    Idiots like Apostle are the bread and butter supporters of the Rats. How long has the information been out there that Hillary and the DNC paid for the Steele Dossier and that Steele didn't even start working on the Dossier until after Hillary started paying Fusion GPS and yet here he is at this late date still repeating the bullshit about how Republicans were behind the Steele Dossier.

    Hondo is a pathological liar and a fucking moron. We know why he makes that claim. But what compels someone like AoG to intentionally keep himself ignorant of the facts?
  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904

    The White House was in fact transparent and did in fact give Mueller the tons of documents he wanted and the many people he interviewed. Two and a half years later he released his report. He worked with Barr on the redactions that were required by law

    Because folks like the Apostle were lied to for 2 plus years they are now angry and confused and the idiot democrats in the House are continuing to play them for fools by acting like there is something there

    Pelosi didn't want to run on impeachment in 2018 and was rewarded with the House. She still doesn't but the morons like Nadler insist on stirring up the low information rabble with false promises of GETTING TRUMP

    It would be sad if it wasn't so pathetic

    Trump was NOT transparent, repeatedly refusing to testify and also "forgetting" most of the details in his written answers.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,459 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    Some of the redactions are of Grand Jury testimony. By law that information can't be released publicly. Congress is trying to compel the AG to violate the law.

    This move by the House is nothing more than red meat for the leftwing dumbfuck vote.

    The information won't be released publicly, shit for brains! It's just supposed to go to the House committees, for now anyway. They hold it confidentially.

    There is no legitimate excuse at all to keep the entire report from House committees that regularly review classified materials. None whatsoever.
    They leak like a sieve

    Mueller already leaked everything anyway. Hondo was amazed that the report contained all the shit that was leaked to the media

    Magic

    And your complete lack of curiosity on how the investigation started that is also contained in heavily redacted reports and testimony just makes you a partisan shill



  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,849
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    “All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to The Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that The Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier,” they said. “The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele.”

    The Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee retained Fusion GPS to research any possible connections between Mr. Trump, his businesses, his campaign team and Russia, court filings revealed this week. Working for them, the firm retained Christopher Steele, a respected former British intelligence officer.


    Hondo is a pathological liar who will repeat a lie long after it has been shown that his claims are false.

    Odd how there's no link for that quote.
    Come see Hondo get his head kicked in time and time again.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,072

    SFGbob said:

    Some of the redactions are of Grand Jury testimony. By law that information can't be released publicly. Congress is trying to compel the AG to violate the law.

    This move by the House is nothing more than red meat for the leftwing dumbfuck vote.

    The information won't be released publicly, shit for brains! It's just supposed to go to the House committees, for now anyway. They hold it confidentially.

    There is no legitimate excuse at all to keep the entire report from House committees that regularly review classified materials. None whatsoever.
    Yeah, and we all know the House would never leak that information. The full unredacted report has already been made available to selected members of Congress.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,072
    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    “All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to The Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that The Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier,” they said. “The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele.”

    The Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee retained Fusion GPS to research any possible connections between Mr. Trump, his businesses, his campaign team and Russia, court filings revealed this week. Working for them, the firm retained Christopher Steele, a respected former British intelligence officer.


    Hondo is a pathological liar who will repeat a lie long after it has been shown that his claims are false.

    Odd how there's no link for that quote.
    Come see Hondo get his head kicked in time and time again.
    You always have to encourage dumbfucks to crawl further out on the limb before you saw it off. You'll notice how Hondo ran and hid like a Kunt after his lies were exposed.

    Gives him the ability to come back here later and retell the very same lie all over again.
  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    I've listened now to over an hour of the committee contempt hearing. The Republican strategy is simply to throw out red herrings about "not doing enough for opiod abuse" etc and an elaborate hairsplitting argument about whether or not this case is similar to precedent and the release of grand jury information (confidentally) to committee. This line of argumentation is weak and could only convince somebody already convinced. It's well within precedent for Barr to request the release of grand jury information in a confidential manner -- it's been done in similar circumstances in the past. So, they will soon vote correctly for contempt
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,849

    I've listened now to over an hour of the committee contempt hearing. The Republican strategy is simply to throw out red herrings about "not doing enough for opiod abuse" etc and an elaborate hairsplitting argument about whether or not this case is similar to precedent and the release of grand jury information (confidentally) to committee. This line of argumentation is weak and could only convince somebody already convinced. It's well within precedent for Barr to request the release of grand jury information in a confidential manner -- it's been done in similar circumstances in the past. So, they will soon vote correctly for contempt

    Sounds like you need to write your Congressman again and demand impeachment.
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