"Collusion" sets up a false choice
There is both legal and illegal collusion, but it makes no difference because the impeachable offense is that his team repeatedly met with Russian operatives, the team expecting to benefit from their stolen information. Call it collusion, call it legal, call it illegal. The bottom line is that it is impeachable because this was the nominee for president of the United States AND HE MADE NO ATTEMPT TO WARN THE FBI.
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Was any "stolen" information exchanged? What was this "stolen" information?
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"the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts."
Mueller
That sentence is all you need to impeach. It would have been forgiven if Trump disclosed his contacts to the FBI BUT HE DIDN'T INSTEAD FIRING THE FBI DIRECTOR BECAUSE OF THE RUSSIAN THING. His very words -
Because the Russian's perceived they'd be better off if Trump won that's all you need to impeach? I'm pretty sure the Israelis thought that they'd be better if Trump won, is that another grounds for impeachment?
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The FBI made no attempt to warn Trump. They tried to entrap him, then they spied on him using a fake dossier from Russia, then they got a special counsel then they got
NOTHING
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Where's the impeachment charges then?ApostleofGrief said:Trump advanced the oversimplified notion that if there was no collusion, then he's not guilty.
There is both legal and illegal collusion, but it makes no difference because the impeachable offense is that his team repeatedly met with Russian operatives, the team expecting to benefit from their stolen information. Call it collusion, call it legal, call it illegal. The bottom line is that it is impeachable because this was the nominee for president of the United States AND HE MADE NO ATTEMPT TO WARN THE FBI. -
Why didn't Mueller charge anyone with this crime?
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Wouldn't the FBI already know about it, since they were spying on his campaign?ApostleofGrief said:"the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts."
Mueller
That sentence is all you need to impeach. It would have been forgiven if Trump disclosed his contacts to the FBI BUT HE DIDN'T INSTEAD FIRING THE FBI DIRECTOR BECAUSE OF THE RUSSIAN THING. His very words -
So desperate and so weak. Democrats have zero interest in the illegal spying on a Presidential campaign and the real collusion by the democrat candidate and and the Obama team but boy you have time to come up with a fourth tier scandal after the first three tiers failed.ApostleofGrief said:Trump advanced the oversimplified notion that if there was no collusion, then he's not guilty.
There is both legal and illegal collusion, but it makes no difference because the impeachable offense is that his team repeatedly met with Russian operatives, the team expecting to benefit from their stolen information. Call it collusion, call it legal, call it illegal. The bottom line is that it is impeachable because this was the nominee for president of the United States AND HE MADE NO ATTEMPT TO WARN THE FBI. -
Russians wanted Hillary. Trump is much harder on them than "reset" girl. HTH
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Clinton was really impeached for getting a blowjob in the White House. Perjury was a mere pretext. The president should have the utmost integrity.
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BullshitApostleofGrief said:Clinton was really impeached for getting a blowjob in the White House. Perjury was a mere pretext. The president should have the utmost integrity.
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Look up the ancient origins of high crimes. It's not necessarily crimes that are impeachable. The president cannot be getting blowjobs during office time in adjoining rooms nor can he be entertaining offers willingly for stolen information. But it may be legal anyway. We can't have that going in...RaceBannon said:
BullshitApostleofGrief said:Clinton was really impeached for getting a blowjob in the White House. Perjury was a mere pretext. The president should have the utmost integrity.
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You know why Clinton was impeached and it wasn't for blow jobsApostleofGrief said:
Look up the ancient origins of high crimes. It's not necessarily crimes that are impeachable. The president cannot be getting blowjobs during office time in adjoining rooms nor can he be entertaining offers willingly for stolen information. But it may be legal anyway. We can't have that going in...RaceBannon said:
BullshitApostleofGrief said:Clinton was really impeached for getting a blowjob in the White House. Perjury was a mere pretext. The president should have the utmost integrity.
You also know it was a mistake by the GOP
Stop being such a simple minded fuck spouting nonsense
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Another one of the left's favorite lies.ApostleofGrief said:Clinton was really impeached for getting a blowjob in the White House. Perjury was a mere pretext. The president should have the utmost integrity.
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The answer is right in the Mueller report and has been posted online multiple multiple times. Lil lyin Bob.SFGbob said:Because the Russian's perceived they'd be better off if Trump won that's all you need to impeach? I'm pretty sure the Israelis thought that they'd be better if Trump won, is that another grounds for impeachment?
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WowApostleofGrief said:Clinton was really impeached for getting a blowjob in the White House. Perjury was a mere pretext. The president should have the utmost integrity.
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And you doubled down. Good for youApostleofGrief said:
Look up the ancient origins of high crimes. It's not necessarily crimes that are impeachable. The president cannot be getting blowjobs during office time in adjoining rooms nor can he be entertaining offers willingly for stolen information. But it may be legal anyway. We can't have that going in...RaceBannon said:
BullshitApostleofGrief said:Clinton was really impeached for getting a blowjob in the White House. Perjury was a mere pretext. The president should have the utmost integrity.
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Another lie from Hondo.2001400ex said:
The answer is right in the Mueller report and has been posted online multiple multiple times. Lil lyin Bob.SFGbob said:Because the Russian's perceived they'd be better off if Trump won that's all you need to impeach? I'm pretty sure the Israelis thought that they'd be better if Trump won, is that another grounds for impeachment?
What stolen information was exchanged and did the campaign know that Russian had stole the information?
I recall you putting your head up your ass posting something about Papadopoulos meeting Mifsud in London because you're a fucking moron who thought had something to do with the Trump Tower meeting but that information has never been posted here despite your repeated lies to the contrary. "Dirt on Hillary" doesn't establish stolen DNC and Hillary emails despite your repeated lies to the contrary. -
Lil lyin Bob refuses to read the Mueller report.
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You should let mueller know.2001400ex said:
The answer is right in the Mueller report and has been posted online multiple multiple times. Lil lyin Bob.SFGbob said:Because the Russian's perceived they'd be better off if Trump won that's all you need to impeach? I'm pretty sure the Israelis thought that they'd be better if Trump won, is that another grounds for impeachment?
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What did Trump do that was as bad as barry promising Medvedev on a hot mike that he should tell Vlad that barry would have more flexibility after the election. What has Trump done that would show that he is playing for the away team versus the barry and PIPS sh*t show with the Russians including the 2010 US uranium sell-out.
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Collusion has always been the GOP rhetoric not the lefts
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https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/mar/25/what-democrats-said-about-trump-collusion-mueller-/ApostleofGrief said:Collusion has always been the GOP rhetoric not the lefts
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Hondo not only lies about what's in the Mueller report, he lies about reading the Mueller report.2001400ex said:Lil lyin Bob refuses to read the Mueller report.
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I've posted screenshots from my phone. It's clear you choose to remain ignorant and can't do something as simple as read a report. It's not a long read. And it's organized with a few sets of table of contents right there for you to look at what you want. It's almost like there was a logic to the report.SFGbob said:
Hondo not only lies about what's in the Mueller report, he lies about reading the Mueller report.2001400ex said:Lil lyin Bob refuses to read the Mueller report.
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Oh I agree you posted "screen shots" Hondo, the thread is right here.2001400ex said:
I've posted screenshots from my phone. It's clear you choose to remain ignorant and can't do something as simple as read a report. It's not a long read. And it's organized with a few sets of table of contents right there for you to look at what you want. It's almost like there was a logic to the report.SFGbob said:
Hondo not only lies about what's in the Mueller report, he lies about reading the Mueller report.2001400ex said:Lil lyin Bob refuses to read the Mueller report.
Lil lyin Bob.
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/58524/embarrassing-for-bob/p1
What you don't admit to because you're a pathological liar is that your "screen-shots" Described a meeting in London between Papadopolous and Mifsud who isn't Russian.
Your lie that you've now been telling for close to two months was:
And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.
Not only has your claim not been "documented" you continue to lie and now claim that this meeting in London supports your lie about the Trump Tower meeting. You're a liar and fucking moron with very shitty reading comprehension Hondo. -
Those screenshots make you a liar in this thread. And you are too dumb to see it.SFGbob said:
Oh I agree you posted "screen shots" Hondo, the thread is right here.2001400ex said:
I've posted screenshots from my phone. It's clear you choose to remain ignorant and can't do something as simple as read a report. It's not a long read. And it's organized with a few sets of table of contents right there for you to look at what you want. It's almost like there was a logic to the report.SFGbob said:
Hondo not only lies about what's in the Mueller report, he lies about reading the Mueller report.2001400ex said:Lil lyin Bob refuses to read the Mueller report.
Lil lyin Bob.
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/58524/embarrassing-for-bob/p1
What you don't admit to because you're a pathological liar is that your "screen-shots" Described a meeting in London between Papadopolous and Mifsud who isn't Russian.
Your lie that you've now been telling for close to two months was:
And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.
Not only has your claim not been "documented" you continue to lie and now claim that this meeting in London supports your lie about the Trump Tower meeting. You're a liar and fucking moron with very shitty reading comprehension Hondo. -
Proven pathological liar.2001400ex said:
Those screenshots make you a liar in this thread. And you are too dumb to see it.SFGbob said:
Oh I agree you posted "screen shots" Hondo, the thread is right here.2001400ex said:
I've posted screenshots from my phone. It's clear you choose to remain ignorant and can't do something as simple as read a report. It's not a long read. And it's organized with a few sets of table of contents right there for you to look at what you want. It's almost like there was a logic to the report.SFGbob said:
Hondo not only lies about what's in the Mueller report, he lies about reading the Mueller report.2001400ex said:Lil lyin Bob refuses to read the Mueller report.
Lil lyin Bob.
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/58524/embarrassing-for-bob/p1
What you don't admit to because you're a pathological liar is that your "screen-shots" Described a meeting in London between Papadopolous and Mifsud who isn't Russian.
Your lie that you've now been telling for close to two months was:
And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.
Not only has your claim not been "documented" you continue to lie and now claim that this meeting in London supports your lie about the Trump Tower meeting. You're a liar and fucking moron with very shitty reading comprehension Hondo. -
Trump started the use of "collusion" as a means of setting up an either-or. He posted the word countlessly.
