As a non-breeder myself, I’m all for other people having kids. You do you boo.
That shit ain’t for me and I’m perfectly ok with it. I enjoy my lifestyle of doing whatever I feel like and having the money to do it.
I get to be an uncle for my nieces and nephews and my buddies have kids, and that’s plenty.
Edit: I am however for getting married. 20’s was great for messing around, trying different women to figure out what you like. Then lock one down who doesn’t want kids either and go do fun shit across the world with each other.
I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
in THIS economy??????
You must be rich.
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.
I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
in THIS economy??????
You must be rich.
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.
What?
Keeping kids locked in the basement is the only way I’d ever see “haven’t been particularly expensive”.
How many kids do you have locked in your basement?
I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
in THIS economy??????
You must be rich.
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.
What?
Keeping kids locked in the basement is the only way I’d ever see “haven’t been particularly expensive”.
How many kids do you have locked in your basement?
Two kids, they're just 4 and 3. Only grandkids on wifey's side of the fam so we get the hookup from their grandparents pretty consistently.
Why in God's name would you have a kid...or get married at his age?
If you want kids, having kids young has it’s upside.
Agree. Sure when your buddies have money and time to party during their 20s, it kind of sucks, but now those same buddies have kids in school, little league, dance class, etc, and my kids are out of the house, I can golf whatever day I want, wife and I can go out to dinner whatever day we want, and hell, I never got laid back then anyway, so now isn't any different.
I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
Fuck yes. All in here. Happy to breed more caustic and non-beta boys into this world. I'd have as many as we can afford, but MrsEm is done getting pelted by footballs or gang tackled in the back yard. She pulled a "no mas" after the last kid, finally got a girl.
10.5 year age gap between the oldest and youngest demon seed. Oldest is my fishing and golfing buddy.
Youngest is in diapers. Should get weird in a bit, but I love being Pops.
I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
in THIS economy??????
You must be rich.
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
in THIS economy??????
You must be rich.
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
in THIS economy??????
You must be rich.
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
True.
It sounds like your kids have good dads and will be the kind of people the world can use more of.
I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
in THIS economy??????
You must be rich.
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
True.
It sounds like your kids have good dads and will be the kind of people the world can use more of.
I hope so man. Raising these mini people is a huge responsibility, no question about that. We try not to take it lightly.
I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
in THIS economy??????
You must be rich.
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
in THIS economy??????
You must be rich.
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
True.
It sounds like your kids have good dads and will be the kind of people the world can use more of.
I hope so man. Raising these mini people is a huge responsibility, no question about that. We try not to take it lightly.
This has turned into the most touching thread I’ve ever seen on HH.
Time for someone to come and blow this up with inappropriateness.
I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
in THIS economy??????
You must be rich.
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
True.
It sounds like your kids have good dads and will be the kind of people the world can use more of.
I hope so man. Raising these mini people is a huge responsibility, no question about that. We try not to take it lightly.
This has turned into the most touching thread I’ve ever seen on HH.
Time for someone to come and blow this up with inappropriateness.
I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
in THIS economy??????
You must be rich.
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
True.
It sounds like your kids have good dads and will be the kind of people the world can use more of.
I hope so man. Raising these mini people is a huge responsibility, no question about that. We try not to take it lightly.
This has turned into the most touching thread I’ve ever seen on HH.
Time for someone to come and blow this up with inappropriateness.
TYFYS. My money was on J though. Race quicker to the draw.
I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
in THIS economy??????
You must be rich.
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
This is true, however child care is a bitch. I'm guessing if yours are 3 and 4 and you aren't bitching about the costs of child care then you don't have those. It's basically another mortgage. After school care too.
The have kids young vs have kids old thing can go two ways. Have kids young, you miss more of your 20s, they may suck your money dry when you don't have much, but you hit freedom from them with more of your life left and aren't responsible for them when you're presumably earning more during the back half of your career.
Have them old, you get your party 20s but also need to save a decent amount to get the compound interest benefit, then when you're at peak earnings you're also at peak kid expenses.
#firstworldproblems
FWIW I went the have kid mid-20s, stop at 1 (snip!), wife work from home route. College is looming which looks ugly. But then I'm free and clear and hopefully not dead.
I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
in THIS economy??????
You must be rich.
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Definite plenty of opportunity costs but those are very worthwhile to me.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
True.
It sounds like your kids have good dads and will be the kind of people the world can use more of.
I hope so man. Raising these mini people is a huge responsibility, no question about that. We try not to take it lightly.
This has turned into the most touching thread I’ve ever seen on HH.
Time for someone to come and blow this up with inappropriateness.
Yeah, I'm probably as happy as I've ever been being a dad. It's made considerably easier by having a wife whose career is childcare and isn't the typical first time parent. We go to concerts, camping, vacations, etc. that I see my friends are too afraid to do with their new kids. A strong support network of family living close by doesn't hurt either.
They still cost a fortune. I can't imagine the extra disposable income I'll have after I no longer have to pay for infant childcare.
Your wife or husband has to make enough to justify child care costs otherwise one should stay home and raise the little rug rats. Staying home can be a considerable sacrifice in today's world where our value is in our work in a lot of cases
Like I said mine were pre grown so they were 10 and 12. I was self employed at the time and remained so for the duration. I'd be in the field when they were in school and at the home office when they got home from school. My wife worked
I'll speak for the oppressed minority. I absolutely love my kids. Might have another couple more.
Anytime you have a chance to pass on your toxic masculinity you have to do it.
in THIS economy??????
You must be rich.
Far from it, I'm sure I'm safely in the bottom half of HH incomes. Maybe I'll see things different later on but at this point my kids haven't been particularly expensive.
You haven't added it up, aren't counting opportunity costs, or they aren't very old. Kids cost you a fortune.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
This is a case to have kids when you’re young and poor. You can’t spend a fortune on them is you don’t have a fortune.
Your wife or husband has to make enough to justify child care costs otherwise one should stay home and raise the little rug rats. Staying home can be a considerable sacrifice in today's world where our value is in our work in a lot of cases
Like I said mine were pre grown so they were 10 and 12. I was self employed at the time and remained so for the duration. I'd be in the field when they were in school and at the home office when they got home from school. My wife worked
My wife is thanking allah that our youngest (twins) will be going from 1/2 day pre-k to all day kindergarten next year. After 10 yrs she’s going back to work. She probably won’t make shit but it’s better than zero. She’s stayed home with all 4 and is done, like bullet to the side of the head done. Daycare was never an option because she would never have cleared enough to cover the ridiculous costs. Even the cost of 2 for day care was stupid expensive.
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That shit ain’t for me and I’m perfectly ok with it. I enjoy my lifestyle of doing whatever I feel like and having the money to do it.
I get to be an uncle for my nieces and nephews and my buddies have kids, and that’s plenty.
Edit: I am however for getting married. 20’s was great for messing around, trying different women to figure out what you like. Then lock one down who doesn’t want kids either and go do fun shit across the world with each other.
Keeping kids locked in the basement is the only way I’d ever see “haven’t been particularly expensive”.
How many kids do you have locked in your basement?
10.5 year age gap between the oldest and youngest demon seed. Oldest is my fishing and golfing buddy.
Youngest is in diapers. Should get weird in a bit, but I love being Pops.
I agree that having kids is great and it's really the only thing of significance I've ever done in my life. It's also the most basic human task. Reproduce - or some retarded fucker will and the gene pool will get shallower. We don't have a shortage of people but we do have a shortage of good people.
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. One kid is out the door already and the other isn't far behind. Then I'm going to come over to their place and eat all their fucking food and drink their liquor.
Like I said, they're young, I'm sure it will get more expensive as they grow up. But also, we plan on not spoiling the hell out of them. Thankfully I have a wife whose a bit of a minimalist so she's on bored with not giving them everything they want.
I think a big part of the "kids are so expensive" thing is plenty of moms like to spend a shitload of money on them. Well that and child support is a bitch. Thankfully I am in neither of those situations.
It sounds like your kids have good dads and will be the kind of people the world can use more of.
Time for someone to come and blow this up with inappropriateness.
It's basically another mortgage. After school care too.
The have kids young vs have kids old thing can go two ways. Have kids young, you miss more of your 20s, they may suck your money dry when you don't have much, but you hit freedom from them with more of your life left and aren't responsible for them when you're presumably earning more during the back half of your career.
Have them old, you get your party 20s but also need to save a decent amount to get the compound interest benefit, then when you're at peak earnings you're also at peak kid expenses.
#firstworldproblems
FWIW I went the have kid mid-20s, stop at 1 (snip!), wife work from home route. College is looming which looks ugly. But then I'm free and clear and hopefully not dead.
They still cost a fortune. I can't imagine the extra disposable income I'll have after I no longer have to pay for infant childcare.
Like I said mine were pre grown so they were 10 and 12. I was self employed at the time and remained so for the duration. I'd be in the field when they were in school and at the home office when they got home from school. My wife worked
First world problems indeed.