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Roger Rosengarten, 2020 4* OL, Littleton (Valor Christian), CO (COMMITTED)

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  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    Tequilla said:

    Only a Quook would say that

    You’d have a better point if you gave me shit for drinking gin

    I like Gin a lot more than Tequila.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,882
    I don’t drink tequila too often anymore ... but I’m so great that they have a holiday named after me in Cinco de Mayo

  • dtddtd Member Posts: 4,820 Standard Supporter
    Tequilla said:

    Let’s be really clear about Oregon’s 9 wins:

    1) 3 wins against the worst non-conference schedule in the conference

    2) A 5-4 P12 conference schedule that Sark would have been proud of

    3) Beating Sparty in a bowl game that rivaled Cal/TCU for worst bowl game of the year

    So yeah ... congrats on those 9 wins

    Holy fuck this site has gone to the doogs.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,882
    dtd said:

    Tequilla said:

    Let’s be really clear about Oregon’s 9 wins:

    1) 3 wins against the worst non-conference schedule in the conference

    2) A 5-4 P12 conference schedule that Sark would have been proud of

    3) Beating Sparty in a bowl game that rivaled Cal/TCU for worst bowl game of the year

    So yeah ... congrats on those 9 wins

    Holy fuck this site has gone to the doogs.
    What about this is wrong?
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited June 2019
    RealRhino said:

    I don't know anything about anything, but I think Oregon should be highly regarded this year. They have the best QB and return several good, experienced OL. They ran the ball just fine against us in OT. I like their tailback, too. We have to stop pretending it's all luck or smoke and mirrors.

    The schedule doesn't break easy for them, but you only have to be a little bit better than each team on your schedule to post a pretty good record.

    I don't know how much we want Rosengarten, but he's almost certainly going to Oregon. It feels like we were pretty late to the party, they are good salesmen, and even good, smart kids make bad decisions. Hell, look at Bru McCoy. Or all the guys that keep going to USC even if we have mountains of data showing that USC doesn't develop players very well.

    UW lost to Oregon because of special teams. It wasn't just our fucking terrible kicker missing the game winning field goal. It was our terrible coverage units giving them short field after short field to work with. They couldn't drive the length of the field and score TD's on UW with consistency. It was the short fields that they took advantage of that even allowed them to stay in the game.

    Offensively, UW out gained them with Jake Browning and no Hunter Bryant and no Myles Gaskin. Those were our two biggest weapons on offense and both weren't on the field. Chris Petersen is a slow strategy motherfucker. He redshirted all the Freshman linebackers so our special teams coverage units were trash and he redshirted all of the freshman D-lineman so we lacked beef on the interior D-line. Those things won't be problems this season or seasons to come. Petersen hurt us in the short term last season for the benefit of the program in the long term. By no means does Oregon getting a super lucky win over UW, at home, after a bye week, mean they are a legit contender this season. They're not.

    Jimmy Lake did have a bad OT by not having a heavy goal line D-line package on the field to stop the run against an obvious run-first team, but the game should have already been won by UW rather easily long before that.

    As long as Rosengarten takes that OV to UW, he'll be a Dawg.
  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,112 Swaye's Wigwam
    Tequilla said:

    So for the Quook on the board right now ... here’s 3 options for you regarding Oregon’s trip to Seattle this year:

    1) Oregon pulls out a close win

    2) UW pulls out a close win

    3) UW pushes UW’s shit in

    You’re fooling yourself if you think the likelihood isn’t lowest to highest probabilities on that list

    Pulls out, pulls out, pushes shit in. Sounds like my high school experience.
  • MisterEmMisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    Has turned into the Peyton Henry Game Ball appreciation thread.
  • ThoroughDawgThoroughDawg Member Posts: 186

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    Let’s be really clear about Oregon’s 9 wins:

    1) 3 wins against the worst non-conference schedule in the conference

    2) A 5-4 P12 conference schedule that Sark would have been proud of

    3) Beating Sparty in a bowl game that rivaled Cal/TCU for worst bowl game of the year

    So yeah ... congrats on those 9 wins

    Sure. It was an ugly 9 wins. However, if you’re honest with yourself, there’s a lot of positives as well. Oregon learned some resiliency. The team doesn’t have the mental fortitude to win an ugly game like MSU the past three years. They don’t bounce back and win 3 in a row after the stretch they had in the middle. I loved that Oregon pulled out an ugly win. If the offense didn’t play well, the defense always folded.





    Michigan State's offense was the worst in the country at that point. The Redbox bowl was a retard fight with both offenses trying their hardest to lose the game. You sound exactly like a fucking doog during the Sark era. If UW had went to the Redbox bowl last season and won it 7-6, I would have considered that a loss. We have higher expectations now.
    #Herbert4Heisman
    #FlexFriday
  • 1to392831weretaken1to392831weretaken Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,630 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited June 2019
    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    Let’s be really clear about Oregon’s 9 wins:

    1) 3 wins against the worst non-conference schedule in the conference

    2) A 5-4 P12 conference schedule that Sark would have been proud of

    3) Beating Sparty in a bowl game that rivaled Cal/TCU for worst bowl game of the year

    So yeah ... congrats on those 9 wins

    Sure. It was an ugly 9 wins. However, if you’re honest with yourself, there’s a lot of positives as well. Oregon learned some resiliency. The team doesn’t have the mental fortitude to win an ugly game like MSU the past three years. They don’t bounce back and win 3 in a row after the stretch they had in the middle. I loved that Oregon pulled out an ugly win. If the offense didn’t play well, the defense always folded.

    Speaking of things that would make Sark proud, here's a quook dropping his favorite non-word.
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    Let’s be really clear about Oregon’s 9 wins:

    1) 3 wins against the worst non-conference schedule in the conference

    2) A 5-4 P12 conference schedule that Sark would have been proud of

    3) Beating Sparty in a bowl game that rivaled Cal/TCU for worst bowl game of the year

    So yeah ... congrats on those 9 wins

    Sure. It was an ugly 9 wins. However, if you’re honest with yourself, there’s a lot of positives as well. Oregon learned some resiliency. The team doesn’t have the mental fortitude to win an ugly game like MSU the past three years. They don’t bounce back and win 3 in a row after the stretch they had in the middle. I loved that Oregon pulled out an ugly win. If the offense didn’t play well, the defense always folded.

    Speaking of things that would make Sark proud, here's a quook dropping his favorite non-word.
    For God’s sake y’all are obsessed with your Sark comparisons.
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    Let’s be really clear about Oregon’s 9 wins:

    1) 3 wins against the worst non-conference schedule in the conference

    2) A 5-4 P12 conference schedule that Sark would have been proud of

    3) Beating Sparty in a bowl game that rivaled Cal/TCU for worst bowl game of the year

    So yeah ... congrats on those 9 wins

    Sure. It was an ugly 9 wins. However, if you’re honest with yourself, there’s a lot of positives as well. Oregon learned some resiliency. The team doesn’t have the mental fortitude to win an ugly game like MSU the past three years. They don’t bounce back and win 3 in a row after the stretch they had in the middle. I loved that Oregon pulled out an ugly win. If the offense didn’t play well, the defense always folded.

    Speaking of things that would make Sark proud, here's a quook dropping his favorite non-word.
    For God’s sake y’all are obsessed with your Sark comparisons.
    you have no idea the depth of the damage that Ty and Sark did to our psyche. I personally like to call it sark battered syndrome
  • QuietcowskeeQuietcowskee Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,353 Swaye's Wigwam
    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    Tequilla said:

    Let’s be really clear about Oregon’s 9 wins:

    1) 3 wins against the worst non-conference schedule in the conference

    2) A 5-4 P12 conference schedule that Sark would have been proud of

    3) Beating Sparty in a bowl game that rivaled Cal/TCU for worst bowl game of the year

    So yeah ... congrats on those 9 wins

    Sure. It was an ugly 9 wins. However, if you’re honest with yourself, there’s a lot of positives as well. Oregon learned some resiliency. The team doesn’t have the mental fortitude to win an ugly game like MSU the past three years. They don’t bounce back and win 3 in a row after the stretch they had in the middle. I loved that Oregon pulled out an ugly win. If the offense didn’t play well, the defense always folded.

    Speaking of things that would make Sark proud, here's a quook dropping his favorite non-word.
    For God’s sake y’all are obsessed with your Sark comparisons.
    This was Cristobal at Arizona.

  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,157 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited June 2019
    Cristobal is Sark until proven otherwise.

    Can get wins at home against good teams (Sark beat Carrol, Shaw, Petersen)

    Gets blown the fuck out on the road inexplicably. That game was like the UW-ASU 2013 game. UW was a lot better than they played but still lost by 30.

    Barely wins an ugly bowl game against a midwestern team (2010 Holiday Bowl vibes from the Redbox Bowl)

    He did beat UW so props for that. Inexcusable performance by Petersen and Lake that game.

    TBD but so far it could go either way. He might be 8-9 win Cristobal instead of 7 win Sark. I think most Oregon teams will be like 2013 UW. Good not great with some choke losses.
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    edited June 2019

    Cristobal is Sark until proven otherwise.

    Can get wins at home against good teams (Sark beat Carrol, Shaw, Petersen)

    Gets blown the fuck out on the road inexplicably. That game was like the UW-ASU 2013 game. UW was a lot better than they played but still lost by 30.

    Barely wins an ugly bowl game against a midwestern team (2010 Holiday Bowl vibes from the Redbox Bowl)

    He did beat UW so props for that. Inexcusable performance by Petersen and Lake that game.

    TBD but so far it could go either way. He might be 8-9 win Cristobal instead of 7 win Sark. I think most Oregon teams will be like 2013 UW. Good not great with some choke losses.

    No one is Sark. Cristobal will have more talent and resources at disposal, he is more of a CEO type head coach, he doesn’t get rip roaring drunk, and he puts a huge emphasis on the lines and strength and conditioning.

  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    ntxduck said:

    RealRhino said:

    I don't know anything about anything, but I think Oregon should be highly regarded this year. They have the best QB and return several good, experienced OL. They ran the ball just fine against us in OT. I like their tailback, too. We have to stop pretending it's all luck or smoke and mirrors.

    The schedule doesn't break easy for them, but you only have to be a little bit better than each team on your schedule to post a pretty good record.

    I don't know how much we want Rosengarten, but he's almost certainly going to Oregon. It feels like we were pretty late to the party, they are good salesmen, and even good, smart kids make bad decisions. Hell, look at Bru McCoy. Or all the guys that keep going to USC even if we have mountains of data showing that USC doesn't develop players very well.

    UW lost to Oregon because of special teams. It wasn't just our fucking terrible kicker missing the game winning field goal. It was our terrible coverage units giving them short field after short field to work with. They couldn't drive the length of the field and score TD's on UW with consistency. It was the short fields that they took advantage of that even allowed them to stay in the game.

    Offensively, UW out gained them with Jake Browning and no Hunter Bryant and no Myles Gaskin. Those were our two biggest weapons on offense and both weren't on the field. Chris Petersen is a slow strategy motherfucker. He redshirted all the Freshman linebackers so our special teams coverage units were trash and he redshirted all of the freshman D-lineman so we lacked beef on the interior D-line. Those things won't be problems this season or seasons to come. Petersen hurt us in the short term last season for the benefit of the program in the long term. By no means does Oregon getting a super lucky win over UW, at home, after a bye week, mean they are a legit contender this season. They're not.

    Jimmy Lake did have a bad OT by not having a heavy goal line D-line package on the field to stop the run against an obvious run-first team, but the game should have already been won by UW rather easily long before that.

    As long as Rosengarten takes that OV to UW, he'll be a Dawg.
    UWs special teams out played Oregon’s. Oregon missed the same field goal as UW and fumbled a kickoff giving UW a touchdown. Short fields for tds? Oregon’s 3 regulation td drives were 88, 75 and 44 yards (after a long kick return). “Short field after short field” lol. Great revisionist history though

    If you want to blame Pete for fucking up the end of the game, fine, because he did. But everything else here is just lol
    Revisionist history? Alright, here you go:

    Oregon's Possessions:

    1. Field Goal: Drive started on UW's 37 yard line
    2. Touch Down: UW's terrible kickoff coverage unit allows a 56 yard kick off return by Tony Brooks-James. Oregon's drive begins at the UW 41 yard line. Takes them 10 plays to finally score.
    3. Punt: Drive begins at Oregon 25. 4 plays for 15 yards.
    4. Punt: Drive begins at Oregon 30. 5 plays for 15 yards.
    5. Touch Down: Drive begins at Oregon 25. 13 plays for 75 yards.
    6. Punt: Drive begins at Oregon 28. 3 plays for -4 yards.
    7. Touchdown: Drive begins at Oregon 12. 15 plays for 88 yards.
    8. Missed FG: Drive begins on Oregon 33. 11 plays for 43 yards.
    9. Punt: Drive begins at the Oregon 29. 9 plays for 39 yards.
    10. OT Touchdown: Drive begins on UW's 25. 6 plays for 25 yards.

    Oregon's offense was gifted two short fields for their first two possessions of the game. One came from an interception, so they get credit for that. The other came from a massive 56 yard kickoff return, which in previous seasons, UW would never have given up because our coverage units were much, much better. So Oregon scored 10 points off of two short fields and then could only manage two scoring drives the rest of regulation. I'd say that's pretty good defense by UW. Obviously in a low scoring game, 10 points is huge and kept them in it, otherwise the game never would have gone to OT and UW would have finished it easily in regulation.

    UW out gained Oregon 437 yards to 379 yards and they did it without Gaskin in the second half and without Hunter Bryant the entire game. UW averaged a higher yards per pass and a higher yards per run than Oregon. They also did it on the road with Oregon coming off a bye and still should have won the game in regulation. Obviously UW was the better team, they won the Pac-12 championship whereas Oregon finished 4th in the North. But UW was the better team head-to-head versus Oregon as well. The better team doesn't always win. Upsets happen. I'll take the championship over a regular season win every time.
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