Can get wins at home against good teams (Sark beat Carrol, Shaw, Petersen)
Gets blown the fuck out on the road inexplicably. That game was like the UW-ASU 2013 game. UW was a lot better than they played but still lost by 30.
Barely wins an ugly bowl game against a midwestern team (2010 Holiday Bowl vibes from the Redbox Bowl)
He did beat UW so props for that. Inexcusable performance by Petersen and Lake that game.
TBD but so far it could go either way. He might be 8-9 win Cristobal instead of 7 win Sark. I think most Oregon teams will be like 2013 UW. Good not great with some choke losses.
No one is Sark. Cristobal will have more talent and resources at disposal, he is more of a CEO type head coach, he doesn’t get tip roaring drunk, and he puts a huge emphasis on the lines and strength and conditioning.
Sark comparisons are valid in some aspects, namely the cheese dick hype fill the sleeves type nonsense. Your S&C program is a sizzling joke until proven otherwise. Husky fans are uniquely qualified to recognize it having been through five years of substanceless sizzle followed by five years of a staff that minimizes hype but gets outstanding results in that department.
That's really the limit of the sark comps. His recruiting was all sizzle and controlling of the message for the doog masses to gobble up. He recruited like dog shit right under everyone's nose but used pawns like dawgman.com to convince doogs otherwise. Oregon is currently recruiting at a level Sark dreamed of at UW but never even came close to.
I don't know anything about anything, but I think Oregon should be highly regarded this year. They have the best QB and return several good, experienced OL. They ran the ball just fine against us in OT. I like their tailback, too. We have to stop pretending it's all luck or smoke and mirrors.
The schedule doesn't break easy for them, but you only have to be a little bit better than each team on your schedule to post a pretty good record.
I don't know how much we want Rosengarten, but he's almost certainly going to Oregon. It feels like we were pretty late to the party, they are good salesmen, and even good, smart kids make bad decisions. Hell, look at Bru McCoy. Or all the guys that keep going to USC even if we have mountains of data showing that USC doesn't develop players very well.
UW lost to Oregon because of special teams. It wasn't just our fucking terrible kicker missing the game winning field goal. It was our terrible coverage units giving them short field after short field to work with. They couldn't drive the length of the field and score TD's on UW with consistency. It was the short fields that they took advantage of that even allowed them to stay in the game.
Offensively, UW out gained them with Jake Browning and no Hunter Bryant and no Myles Gaskin. Those were our two biggest weapons on offense and both weren't on the field. Chris Petersen is a slow strategy motherfucker. He redshirted all the Freshman linebackers so our special teams coverage units were trash and he redshirted all of the freshman D-lineman so we lacked beef on the interior D-line. Those things won't be problems this season or seasons to come. Petersen hurt us in the short term last season for the benefit of the program in the long term. By no means does Oregon getting a super lucky win over UW, at home, after a bye week, mean they are a legit contender this season. They're not.
Jimmy Lake did have a bad OT by not having a heavy goal line D-line package on the field to stop the run against an obvious run-first team, but the game should have already been won by UW rather easily long before that.
As long as Rosengarten takes that OV to UW, he'll be a Dawg.
UWs special teams out played Oregon’s. Oregon missed the same field goal as UW and fumbled a kickoff giving UW a touchdown. Short fields for tds? Oregon’s 3 regulation td drives were 88, 75 and 44 yards (after a long kick return). “Short field after short field” lol. Great revisionist history though
If you want to blame Pete for fucking up the end of the game, fine, because he did. But everything else here is just lol
Revisionist history? Alright, here you go:
Oregon's Possessions:
1. Field Goal: Drive started on UW's 37 yard line 2. Touch Down: UW's terrible kickoff coverage unit allows a 56 yard kick off return by Tony Brooks-James. Oregon's drive begins at the UW 41 yard line. Takes them 10 plays to finally score. 3. Punt: Drive begins at Oregon 25. 4 plays for 15 yards. 4. Punt: Drive begins at Oregon 30. 5 plays for 15 yards. 5. Touch Down: Drive begins at Oregon 25. 13 plays for 75 yards. 6. Punt: Drive begins at Oregon 28. 3 plays for -4 yards. 7. Touchdown: Drive begins at Oregon 12. 15 plays for 88 yards. 8. Missed FG: Drive begins on Oregon 33. 11 plays for 43 yards. 9. Punt: Drive begins at the Oregon 29. 9 plays for 39 yards. 10. OT Touchdown: Drive begins on UW's 25. 6 plays for 25 yards.
Oregon's offense was gifted two short fields for their first two possessions of the game. One came from an interception, so they get credit for that. The other came from a massive 56 yard kickoff return, which in previous seasons, UW would never have given up because our coverage units were much, much better. So Oregon scored 10 points off of two short fields and then could only manage two scoring drives the rest of regulation. I'd say that's pretty good defense by UW. Obviously in a low scoring game, 10 points is huge and kept them in it, otherwise the game never would have gone to OT and UW would have finished it easily in regulation.
UW out gained Oregon 437 yards to 379 yards and they did it without Gaskin in the second half and without Hunter Bryant the entire game. UW averaged a higher yards per pass and a higher yards per run than Oregon. They also did it on the road with Oregon coming off a bye and still should have won the game in regulation. Obviously UW was the better team, they won the Pac-12 championship whereas Oregon finished 4th in the North. But UW was the better team head-to-head versus Oregon as well. The better team doesn't always win. Upsets happen. I'll take the championship over a regular season win every time.
There was a disparity in talent between Oregon and UW. Bottom line that gap is closing fast. Back to Rosengarten, I think you hit on a huge selling point for Oregon earlier in the thread.
Can get wins at home against good teams (Sark beat Carrol, Shaw, Petersen)
Gets blown the fuck out on the road inexplicably. That game was like the UW-ASU 2013 game. UW was a lot better than they played but still lost by 30.
Barely wins an ugly bowl game against a midwestern team (2010 Holiday Bowl vibes from the Redbox Bowl)
He did beat UW so props for that. Inexcusable performance by Petersen and Lake that game.
TBD but so far it could go either way. He might be 8-9 win Cristobal instead of 7 win Sark. I think most Oregon teams will be like 2013 UW. Good not great with some choke losses.
No one is Sark. Cristobal will have more talent and resources at disposal, he is more of a CEO type head coach, he doesn’t get tip roaring drunk, and he puts a huge emphasis on the lines and strength and conditioning.
Sark comparisons are valid in some aspects, namely the cheese dick hype fill the sleeves type nonsense. Your S&C program is a sizzling joke until proven otherwise. Husky fans are uniquely qualified to recognize it having been through five years of substanceless sizzle followed by five years of a staff that minimizes hype but gets outstanding results in that department.
That's really the limit of the sark comps. His recruiting was all sizzle and controlling of the message for the doog masses to gobble up. He recruited like dog shit right under everyone's nose but used pawns like dawgman.com to convince doogs otherwise. Oregon is currently recruiting at a level Sark dreamed of at UW but never even came close to.
There is a lot of substance behind the sizzle though. Players are buying in and doing the work. Also, there is a psychological component to the program. There’s a lot of player making gains in functional strength.
Can get wins at home against good teams (Sark beat Carrol, Shaw, Petersen)
Gets blown the fuck out on the road inexplicably. That game was like the UW-ASU 2013 game. UW was a lot better than they played but still lost by 30.
Barely wins an ugly bowl game against a midwestern team (2010 Holiday Bowl vibes from the Redbox Bowl)
He did beat UW so props for that. Inexcusable performance by Petersen and Lake that game.
TBD but so far it could go either way. He might be 8-9 win Cristobal instead of 7 win Sark. I think most Oregon teams will be like 2013 UW. Good not great with some choke losses.
No one is Sark. Cristobal will have more talent and resources at disposal, he is more of a CEO type head coach, he doesn’t get tip roaring drunk, and he puts a huge emphasis on the lines and strength and conditioning.
Sark comparisons are valid in some aspects, namely the cheese dick hype fill the sleeves type nonsense. Your S&C program is a sizzling joke until proven otherwise. Husky fans are uniquely qualified to recognize it having been through five years of substanceless sizzle followed by five years of a staff that minimizes hype but gets outstanding results in that department.
That's really the limit of the sark comps. His recruiting was all sizzle and controlling of the message for the doog masses to gobble up. He recruited like dog shit right under everyone's nose but used pawns like dawgman.com to convince doogs otherwise. Oregon is currently recruiting at a level Sark dreamed of at UW but never even came close to.
There is a lot of substance behind the sizzle though. Players are buying in and doing the work. Also, there is a psychological component to the program. There’s a lot of player making gains in functional strength.
They're buying in???
Christ, I'd think this was satire if I didn't know better.
I don't know anything about anything, but I think Oregon should be highly regarded this year. They have the best QB and return several good, experienced OL. They ran the ball just fine against us in OT. I like their tailback, too. We have to stop pretending it's all luck or smoke and mirrors.
The schedule doesn't break easy for them, but you only have to be a little bit better than each team on your schedule to post a pretty good record.
I don't know how much we want Rosengarten, but he's almost certainly going to Oregon. It feels like we were pretty late to the party, they are good salesmen, and even good, smart kids make bad decisions. Hell, look at Bru McCoy. Or all the guys that keep going to USC even if we have mountains of data showing that USC doesn't develop players very well.
UW lost to Oregon because of special teams. It wasn't just our fucking terrible kicker missing the game winning field goal. It was our terrible coverage units giving them short field after short field to work with. They couldn't drive the length of the field and score TD's on UW with consistency. It was the short fields that they took advantage of that even allowed them to stay in the game.
Offensively, UW out gained them with Jake Browning and no Hunter Bryant and no Myles Gaskin. Those were our two biggest weapons on offense and both weren't on the field. Chris Petersen is a slow strategy motherfucker. He redshirted all the Freshman linebackers so our special teams coverage units were trash and he redshirted all of the freshman D-lineman so we lacked beef on the interior D-line. Those things won't be problems this season or seasons to come. Petersen hurt us in the short term last season for the benefit of the program in the long term. By no means does Oregon getting a super lucky win over UW, at home, after a bye week, mean they are a legit contender this season. They're not.
Jimmy Lake did have a bad OT by not having a heavy goal line D-line package on the field to stop the run against an obvious run-first team, but the game should have already been won by UW rather easily long before that.
As long as Rosengarten takes that OV to UW, he'll be a Dawg.
UWs special teams out played Oregon’s. Oregon missed the same field goal as UW and fumbled a kickoff giving UW a touchdown. Short fields for tds? Oregon’s 3 regulation td drives were 88, 75 and 44 yards (after a long kick return). “Short field after short field” lol. Great revisionist history though
If you want to blame Pete for fucking up the end of the game, fine, because he did. But everything else here is just lol
Revisionist history? Alright, here you go:
Oregon's Possessions:
1. Field Goal: Drive started on UW's 37 yard line 2. Touch Down: UW's terrible kickoff coverage unit allows a 56 yard kick off return by Tony Brooks-James. Oregon's drive begins at the UW 41 yard line. Takes them 10 plays to finally score. 3. Punt: Drive begins at Oregon 25. 4 plays for 15 yards. 4. Punt: Drive begins at Oregon 30. 5 plays for 15 yards. 5. Touch Down: Drive begins at Oregon 25. 13 plays for 75 yards. 6. Punt: Drive begins at Oregon 28. 3 plays for -4 yards. 7. Touchdown: Drive begins at Oregon 12. 15 plays for 88 yards. 8. Missed FG: Drive begins on Oregon 33. 11 plays for 43 yards. 9. Punt: Drive begins at the Oregon 29. 9 plays for 39 yards. 10. OT Touchdown: Drive begins on UW's 25. 6 plays for 25 yards.
Oregon's offense was gifted two short fields for their first two possessions of the game. One came from an interception, so they get credit for that. The other came from a massive 56 yard kickoff return, which in previous seasons, UW would never have given up because our coverage units were much, much better. So Oregon scored 10 points off of two short fields and then could only manage two scoring drives the rest of regulation. I'd say that's pretty good defense by UW. Obviously in a low scoring game, 10 points is huge and kept them in it, otherwise the game never would have gone to OT and UW would have finished it easily in regulation.
UW out gained Oregon 437 yards to 379 yards and they did it without Gaskin in the second half and without Hunter Bryant the entire game. UW averaged a higher yards per pass and a higher yards per run than Oregon. They also did it on the road with Oregon coming off a bye and still should have won the game in regulation. Obviously UW was the better team, they won the Pac-12 championship whereas Oregon finished 4th in the North. But UW was the better team head-to-head versus Oregon as well. The better team doesn't always win. Upsets happen. I'll take the championship over a regular season win every time.
There was a disparity in talent between Oregon and UW. Bottom line that gap is closing fast. Back to Rosengarten, I think you hit on a huge selling point for Oregon earlier in the thread.
No there wasn't. There was a massive gap in talent between Browning and Herbert. UW was extremely thin at ILB and D-line last season. They had to play walk-ons regularly in the rotation for both. Dillon Mitchell was better than any receiver on the field for UW. Both teams had veteran O-lines with a couple future NFL guys on them. There wasn't a huge talent gap. UW was more talented, but not in a big way and their top two weapons on offense were injured.
UW's RS Freshman class has infused their roster with talent and combined with their true Freshman class and Jacob Eason replacing Browning, they now have a more talented roster than Oregon by a sizable gap. The gap isn't closing. UW hasn't been recruiting a bunch of overrated guys for the sake of online class rankings and they also haven't been recruiting injured guys. Regardless of bullshit internet recruiting rankings done by idiots, UW's last two recruiting classes were better than Oregon's, especially in the trenches and on defense. UW is pulling away from Oregon talent wise. The biggest gap that matters is the gap between coaching and player development. UW has that advantage as well.
I'm sure Oregon is selling the hell out of early playing time to Rosengarten. How did that work out for them when they did the same for Puka Nacua? Proven player development and better academics and conference championships trumps early playing time.
I don't know anything about anything, but I think Oregon should be highly regarded this year. They have the best QB and return several good, experienced OL. They ran the ball just fine against us in OT. I like their tailback, too. We have to stop pretending it's all luck or smoke and mirrors.
The schedule doesn't break easy for them, but you only have to be a little bit better than each team on your schedule to post a pretty good record.
I don't know how much we want Rosengarten, but he's almost certainly going to Oregon. It feels like we were pretty late to the party, they are good salesmen, and even good, smart kids make bad decisions. Hell, look at Bru McCoy. Or all the guys that keep going to USC even if we have mountains of data showing that USC doesn't develop players very well.
UW lost to Oregon because of special teams. It wasn't just our fucking terrible kicker missing the game winning field goal. It was our terrible coverage units giving them short field after short field to work with. They couldn't drive the length of the field and score TD's on UW with consistency. It was the short fields that they took advantage of that even allowed them to stay in the game.
Offensively, UW out gained them with Jake Browning and no Hunter Bryant and no Myles Gaskin. Those were our two biggest weapons on offense and both weren't on the field. Chris Petersen is a slow strategy motherfucker. He redshirted all the Freshman linebackers so our special teams coverage units were trash and he redshirted all of the freshman D-lineman so we lacked beef on the interior D-line. Those things won't be problems this season or seasons to come. Petersen hurt us in the short term last season for the benefit of the program in the long term. By no means does Oregon getting a super lucky win over UW, at home, after a bye week, mean they are a legit contender this season. They're not.
Jimmy Lake did have a bad OT by not having a heavy goal line D-line package on the field to stop the run against an obvious run-first team, but the game should have already been won by UW rather easily long before that.
As long as Rosengarten takes that OV to UW, he'll be a Dawg.
UWs special teams out played Oregon’s. Oregon missed the same field goal as UW and fumbled a kickoff giving UW a touchdown. Short fields for tds? Oregon’s 3 regulation td drives were 88, 75 and 44 yards (after a long kick return). “Short field after short field” lol. Great revisionist history though
If you want to blame Pete for fucking up the end of the game, fine, because he did. But everything else here is just lol
Revisionist history? Alright, here you go:
Oregon's Possessions:
1. Field Goal: Drive started on UW's 37 yard line 2. Touch Down: UW's terrible kickoff coverage unit allows a 56 yard kick off return by Tony Brooks-James. Oregon's drive begins at the UW 41 yard line. Takes them 10 plays to finally score. 3. Punt: Drive begins at Oregon 25. 4 plays for 15 yards. 4. Punt: Drive begins at Oregon 30. 5 plays for 15 yards. 5. Touch Down: Drive begins at Oregon 25. 13 plays for 75 yards. 6. Punt: Drive begins at Oregon 28. 3 plays for -4 yards. 7. Touchdown: Drive begins at Oregon 12. 15 plays for 88 yards. 8. Missed FG: Drive begins on Oregon 33. 11 plays for 43 yards. 9. Punt: Drive begins at the Oregon 29. 9 plays for 39 yards. 10. OT Touchdown: Drive begins on UW's 25. 6 plays for 25 yards.
Oregon's offense was gifted two short fields for their first two possessions of the game. One came from an interception, so they get credit for that. The other came from a massive 56 yard kickoff return, which in previous seasons, UW would never have given up because our coverage units were much, much better. So Oregon scored 10 points off of two short fields and then could only manage two scoring drives the rest of regulation. I'd say that's pretty good defense by UW. Obviously in a low scoring game, 10 points is huge and kept them in it, otherwise the game never would have gone to OT and UW would have finished it easily in regulation.
UW out gained Oregon 437 yards to 379 yards and they did it without Gaskin in the second half and without Hunter Bryant the entire game. UW averaged a higher yards per pass and a higher yards per run than Oregon. They also did it on the road with Oregon coming off a bye and still should have won the game in regulation. Obviously UW was the better team, they won the Pac-12 championship whereas Oregon finished 4th in the North. But UW was the better team head-to-head versus Oregon as well. The better team doesn't always win. Upsets happen. I'll take the championship over a regular season win every time.
There was a disparity in talent between Oregon and UW. Bottom line that gap is closing fast. Back to Rosengarten, I think you hit on a huge selling point for Oregon earlier in the thread.
No there wasn't. There was a massive gap in talent between Browning and Herbert. UW was extremely thin at ILB and D-line last season. They had to play walk-ons regularly in the rotation for both. Dillon Mitchell was better than any receiver on the field for UW. Both teams had veteran O-lines with a couple future NFL guys on them. There wasn't a huge talent gap. UW was more talented, but not in a big way and their top two weapons on offense were injured.
UW's RS Freshman class has infused their roster with talent and combined with their true Freshman class and Jacob Eason replacing Browning, they now have a more talented roster than Oregon by a sizable gap. The gap isn't closing. UW hasn't been recruiting a bunch of overrated guys for the sake of online class rankings and they also haven't been recruiting injured guys. Regardless of bullshit internet recruiting rankings done by idiots, UW's last two recruiting classes were better than Oregon's, especially in the trenches and on defense. UW is pulling away from Oregon talent wise. The biggest gap that matters is the gap between coaching and player development. UW has that advantage as well.
I'm sure Oregon is selling the hell out of early playing time to Rosengarten. How did that work out for them when they did the same for Puka Nacua? Proven player development and better academics and conference championships trumps early playing time.
So, the one thing nice you say about Oregon is a back handed compliment. Btw, sometimes you tip your hat to the competition.
Can get wins at home against good teams (Sark beat Carrol, Shaw, Petersen)
Gets blown the fuck out on the road inexplicably. That game was like the UW-ASU 2013 game. UW was a lot better than they played but still lost by 30.
Barely wins an ugly bowl game against a midwestern team (2010 Holiday Bowl vibes from the Redbox Bowl)
He did beat UW so props for that. Inexcusable performance by Petersen and Lake that game.
TBD but so far it could go either way. He might be 8-9 win Cristobal instead of 7 win Sark. I think most Oregon teams will be like 2013 UW. Good not great with some choke losses.
No one is Sark. Cristobal will have more talent and resources at disposal, he is more of a CEO type head coach, he doesn’t get tip roaring drunk, and he puts a huge emphasis on the lines and strength and conditioning.
Sark comparisons are valid in some aspects, namely the cheese dick hype fill the sleeves type nonsense. Your S&C program is a sizzling joke until proven otherwise. Husky fans are uniquely qualified to recognize it having been through five years of substanceless sizzle followed by five years of a staff that minimizes hype but gets outstanding results in that department.
That's really the limit of the sark comps. His recruiting was all sizzle and controlling of the message for the doog masses to gobble up. He recruited like dog shit right under everyone's nose but used pawns like dawgman.com to convince doogs otherwise. Oregon is currently recruiting at a level Sark dreamed of at UW but never even came close to.
There is a lot of substance behind the sizzle though. Players are buying in and doing the work. Also, there is a psychological component to the program. There’s a lot of player making gains in functional strength.
The lads are working harder than ever? What % of the Ducks' roster are in the best shape of their lives? TIA
Can get wins at home against good teams (Sark beat Carrol, Shaw, Petersen)
Gets blown the fuck out on the road inexplicably. That game was like the UW-ASU 2013 game. UW was a lot better than they played but still lost by 30.
Barely wins an ugly bowl game against a midwestern team (2010 Holiday Bowl vibes from the Redbox Bowl)
He did beat UW so props for that. Inexcusable performance by Petersen and Lake that game.
TBD but so far it could go either way. He might be 8-9 win Cristobal instead of 7 win Sark. I think most Oregon teams will be like 2013 UW. Good not great with some choke losses.
No one is Sark. Cristobal will have more talent and resources at disposal, he is more of a CEO type head coach, he doesn’t get tip roaring drunk, and he puts a huge emphasis on the lines and strength and conditioning.
Sark comparisons are valid in some aspects, namely the cheese dick hype fill the sleeves type nonsense. Your S&C program is a sizzling joke until proven otherwise. Husky fans are uniquely qualified to recognize it having been through five years of substanceless sizzle followed by five years of a staff that minimizes hype but gets outstanding results in that department.
That's really the limit of the sark comps. His recruiting was all sizzle and controlling of the message for the doog masses to gobble up. He recruited like dog shit right under everyone's nose but used pawns like dawgman.com to convince doogs otherwise. Oregon is currently recruiting at a level Sark dreamed of at UW but never even came close to.
There is a lot of substance behind the sizzle though. Players are buying in and doing the work. Also, there is a psychological component to the program. There’s a lot of player making gains in functional strength.
Fuck dude you couldn't sound more like dawgman circa 2009-2013 if you tried. Thanks for illustrating my point.
Can get wins at home against good teams (Sark beat Carrol, Shaw, Petersen)
Gets blown the fuck out on the road inexplicably. That game was like the UW-ASU 2013 game. UW was a lot better than they played but still lost by 30.
Barely wins an ugly bowl game against a midwestern team (2010 Holiday Bowl vibes from the Redbox Bowl)
He did beat UW so props for that. Inexcusable performance by Petersen and Lake that game.
TBD but so far it could go either way. He might be 8-9 win Cristobal instead of 7 win Sark. I think most Oregon teams will be like 2013 UW. Good not great with some choke losses.
No one is Sark. Cristobal will have more talent and resources at disposal, he is more of a CEO type head coach, he doesn’t get rip roaring drunk, and he puts a huge emphasis on the lines and strength and conditioning.
Nobody who prioritizes S&C hires a faggot to do it. HTH
Lol, Herbert had all day to throw against a consistent 5 man rush. He was sacked once on a stunt by Fields and the OL gave up one negative rushing play. Capra was the culprit and he transferred out to SDSU. Also, Oregon was down Sewell, Jones got injured in the game, and Warmack wasn't a go. That game was on Herbert, the receivers and special team gaffes. Also, that might have been the worst play calling I've seen in a decade. Those are my two biggest concerns: Herbert's mental fortitude and Arroyo play calling.
Can get wins at home against good teams (Sark beat Carrol, Shaw, Petersen)
Gets blown the fuck out on the road inexplicably. That game was like the UW-ASU 2013 game. UW was a lot better than they played but still lost by 30.
Barely wins an ugly bowl game against a midwestern team (2010 Holiday Bowl vibes from the Redbox Bowl)
He did beat UW so props for that. Inexcusable performance by Petersen and Lake that game.
TBD but so far it could go either way. He might be 8-9 win Cristobal instead of 7 win Sark. I think most Oregon teams will be like 2013 UW. Good not great with some choke losses.
No one is Sark. Cristobal will have more talent and resources at disposal, he is more of a CEO type head coach, he doesn’t get tip roaring drunk, and he puts a huge emphasis on the lines and strength and conditioning.
Sark comparisons are valid in some aspects, namely the cheese dick hype fill the sleeves type nonsense. Your S&C program is a sizzling joke until proven otherwise. Husky fans are uniquely qualified to recognize it having been through five years of substanceless sizzle followed by five years of a staff that minimizes hype but gets outstanding results in that department.
That's really the limit of the sark comps. His recruiting was all sizzle and controlling of the message for the doog masses to gobble up. He recruited like dog shit right under everyone's nose but used pawns like dawgman.com to convince doogs otherwise. Oregon is currently recruiting at a level Sark dreamed of at UW but never even came close to.
There is a lot of substance behind the sizzle though. Players are buying in and doing the work. Also, there is a psychological component to the program. There’s a lot of player making gains in functional strength.
Fuck dude you couldn't sound more like dawgman circa 2009-2013 if you tried. Thanks for illustrating my point.
I am not sure how dawgman was back then. Oregon is throwing more at the strength and conditioning program than I've ever seen in concrete ways. It was Cristobal's first hire and priority #1. He hired a head of S&C and two assistants. He got one out of Georgia, Wisconsin and Bama. That is the biggest difference I've seen with him over any other coach at Oregon.
What made UW fans so excited about S&C under Sark? Were there tangible reasons or just talk? Sark obviously did some things right in 2009 and beyond. I, mean, that team was trash and he improved the team. I've seen both sides of the coin with Chip being all substance over style, Taggart and now Cristobal.
Cristobal talked about improving S&C and cutting down penalties in 2018. He accomplished that. Next will be playing well on the road.
Can get wins at home against good teams (Sark beat Carrol, Shaw, Petersen)
Gets blown the fuck out on the road inexplicably. That game was like the UW-ASU 2013 game. UW was a lot better than they played but still lost by 30.
Barely wins an ugly bowl game against a midwestern team (2010 Holiday Bowl vibes from the Redbox Bowl)
He did beat UW so props for that. Inexcusable performance by Petersen and Lake that game.
TBD but so far it could go either way. He might be 8-9 win Cristobal instead of 7 win Sark. I think most Oregon teams will be like 2013 UW. Good not great with some choke losses.
No one is Sark. Cristobal will have more talent and resources at disposal, he is more of a CEO type head coach, he doesn’t get tip roaring drunk, and he puts a huge emphasis on the lines and strength and conditioning.
Sark comparisons are valid in some aspects, namely the cheese dick hype fill the sleeves type nonsense. Your S&C program is a sizzling joke until proven otherwise. Husky fans are uniquely qualified to recognize it having been through five years of substanceless sizzle followed by five years of a staff that minimizes hype but gets outstanding results in that department.
That's really the limit of the sark comps. His recruiting was all sizzle and controlling of the message for the doog masses to gobble up. He recruited like dog shit right under everyone's nose but used pawns like dawgman.com to convince doogs otherwise. Oregon is currently recruiting at a level Sark dreamed of at UW but never even came close to.
There is a lot of substance behind the sizzle though. Players are buying in and doing the work. Also, there is a psychological component to the program. There’s a lot of player making gains in functional strength.
Fuck dude you couldn't sound more like dawgman circa 2009-2013 if you tried. Thanks for illustrating my point.
I am not sure how dawgman was back then. Oregon is throwing more at the strength and conditioning program than I've ever seen in concrete ways. It was Cristobal's first hire and priority #1. He hired a head of S&C and two assistants. He got one out of Georgia, Wisconsin and Bama. That is the biggest difference I've seen with him over any other coach at Oregon.
What made UW fans so excited about S&C under Sark? Were there tangible reasons or just talk? Sark obviously did some things right in 2009 and beyond. I, mean, that team was trash and he improved the team. I've seen both sides of the coin with Chip being all substance over style, Taggart and now Cristobal.
Cristobal talked about improving S&C and cutting down penalties in 2018. He accomplished that. Next will be playing well on the road.
Now that you’ve infected the RECRUITING BORED take your Duck cock gobbling to the HH DUCK BORED
SAC usually: Washington has way more talent. Will write three paragraphs on it.
SAC when told Oregon beat Washington despite a talent disparity: UW is not more talented. Will write three paragraphs on it.
Fuck are you talking about? I literally just said UW was more talented than Oregon last season. I have never said UW was not more talented than Oregon last season.
Can get wins at home against good teams (Sark beat Carrol, Shaw, Petersen)
Gets blown the fuck out on the road inexplicably. That game was like the UW-ASU 2013 game. UW was a lot better than they played but still lost by 30.
Barely wins an ugly bowl game against a midwestern team (2010 Holiday Bowl vibes from the Redbox Bowl)
He did beat UW so props for that. Inexcusable performance by Petersen and Lake that game.
TBD but so far it could go either way. He might be 8-9 win Cristobal instead of 7 win Sark. I think most Oregon teams will be like 2013 UW. Good not great with some choke losses.
No one is Sark. Cristobal will have more talent and resources at disposal, he is more of a CEO type head coach, he doesn’t get tip roaring drunk, and he puts a huge emphasis on the lines and strength and conditioning.
Sark comparisons are valid in some aspects, namely the cheese dick hype fill the sleeves type nonsense. Your S&C program is a sizzling joke until proven otherwise. Husky fans are uniquely qualified to recognize it having been through five years of substanceless sizzle followed by five years of a staff that minimizes hype but gets outstanding results in that department.
That's really the limit of the sark comps. His recruiting was all sizzle and controlling of the message for the doog masses to gobble up. He recruited like dog shit right under everyone's nose but used pawns like dawgman.com to convince doogs otherwise. Oregon is currently recruiting at a level Sark dreamed of at UW but never even came close to.
There is a lot of substance behind the sizzle though. Players are buying in and doing the work. Also, there is a psychological component to the program. There’s a lot of player making gains in functional strength.
Fuck dude you couldn't sound more like dawgman circa 2009-2013 if you tried. Thanks for illustrating my point.
I am not sure how dawgman was back then. Oregon is throwing more at the strength and conditioning program than I've ever seen in concrete ways. It was Cristobal's first hire and priority #1. He hired a head of S&C and two assistants. He got one out of Georgia, Wisconsin and Bama. That is the biggest difference I've seen with him over any other coach at Oregon.
What made UW fans so excited about S&C under Sark? Were there tangible reasons or just talk? Sark obviously did some things right in 2009 and beyond. I, mean, that team was trash and he improved the team. I've seen both sides of the coin with Chip being all substance over style, Taggart and now Cristobal.
Cristobal talked about improving S&C and cutting down penalties in 2018. He accomplished that. Next will be playing well on the road.
Ivan Lewis was Aaron Feld before Aaron Feld. He was a loud mouthed juice head who would walk around with no sleeves on and get recruits and players excited about UW. UW just didn't use him in as much social media marketing bullshit because social media wasn't as big back then for recruiting as it is now. Feld takes being a blowhard juice head clown to a new level. I'll give him that.
How quickly you forget that Chip Kelly's teams were the best conditioned team on the field almost every game they played. Now Feld is the best Oregon's ever had after one mediocre season? Fuck you're dumb.
When your team gets blown out by undersized teams like Arizona and WSU and then ran all over by Utah last season, I don't think you should be bragging about your strength and conditioning program. But that's just me. Put together a complete season. Then you can feel good about Feld.
Lol, Herbert had all day to throw against a consistent 5 man rush. He was sacked once on a stunt by Fields and the OL gave up one negative rushing play. Capra was the culprit and he transferred out to SDSU. Also, Oregon was down Sewell, Jones got injured in the game, and Warmack wasn't a go. That game was on Herbert, the receivers and special team gaffes. Also, that might have been the worst play calling I've seen in a decade. Those are my two biggest concerns: Herbert's mental fortitude and Arroyo play calling.
What the fuck are you watching? Arizona stuffed the fuck out of your running game with an undersized D-line. Almost every time Herbert dropped back to pass he was under pressure and had to move off his spot or get rid of the ball just in time before getting sacked. He got hit at least half a dozen times after throwing the ball. He was under pressure and threw picks and inaccurate passes because of it. Pretty funny Cristobal kept him in the whole game to try to make the score more respectable and Herbert got smacked trying to run it in at the end.
Can get wins at home against good teams (Sark beat Carrol, Shaw, Petersen)
Gets blown the fuck out on the road inexplicably. That game was like the UW-ASU 2013 game. UW was a lot better than they played but still lost by 30.
Barely wins an ugly bowl game against a midwestern team (2010 Holiday Bowl vibes from the Redbox Bowl)
He did beat UW so props for that. Inexcusable performance by Petersen and Lake that game.
TBD but so far it could go either way. He might be 8-9 win Cristobal instead of 7 win Sark. I think most Oregon teams will be like 2013 UW. Good not great with some choke losses.
No one is Sark. Cristobal will have more talent and resources at disposal, he is more of a CEO type head coach, he doesn’t get tip roaring drunk, and he puts a huge emphasis on the lines and strength and conditioning.
Sark comparisons are valid in some aspects, namely the cheese dick hype fill the sleeves type nonsense. Your S&C program is a sizzling joke until proven otherwise. Husky fans are uniquely qualified to recognize it having been through five years of substanceless sizzle followed by five years of a staff that minimizes hype but gets outstanding results in that department.
That's really the limit of the sark comps. His recruiting was all sizzle and controlling of the message for the doog masses to gobble up. He recruited like dog shit right under everyone's nose but used pawns like dawgman.com to convince doogs otherwise. Oregon is currently recruiting at a level Sark dreamed of at UW but never even came close to.
There is a lot of substance behind the sizzle though. Players are buying in and doing the work. Also, there is a psychological component to the program. There’s a lot of player making gains in functional strength.
Fuck dude you couldn't sound more like dawgman circa 2009-2013 if you tried. Thanks for illustrating my point.
I am not sure how dawgman was back then. Oregon is throwing more at the strength and conditioning program than I've ever seen in concrete ways. It was Cristobal's first hire and priority #1. He hired a head of S&C and two assistants. He got one out of Georgia, Wisconsin and Bama. That is the biggest difference I've seen with him over any other coach at Oregon.
What made UW fans so excited about S&C under Sark? Were there tangible reasons or just talk? Sark obviously did some things right in 2009 and beyond. I, mean, that team was trash and he improved the team. I've seen both sides of the coin with Chip being all substance over style, Taggart and now Cristobal.
Cristobal talked about improving S&C and cutting down penalties in 2018. He accomplished that. Next will be playing well on the road.
Ivan Lewis was Aaron Feld before Aaron Feld. He was a loud mouthed juice head who would walk around with no sleeves on and get recruits and players excited about UW. UW just didn't use him in as much social media marketing bullshit because social media wasn't as big back then for recruiting as it is now. Feld takes being a blowhard juice head clown to a new level. I'll give him that.
How quickly you forget that Chip Kelly's teams were the best conditioned team on the field almost every game they played. Now Feld is the best Oregon's ever had after one mediocre season? Fuck you're dumb.
When your team gets blown out by undersized teams like Arizona and WSU and then ran all over by Utah last season, I don't think you should be bragging about your strength and conditioning program. But that's just me. Put together a complete season. Then you can feel good about Feld.
More so than the asshole personality shit, it was the fucktarded approach to the job. Ivan brought in a program for guys who want to look good with their shirts off, not a program for conditioning football players. Socha posted videos a couple years ago of McGary doing 350 lb hang cleans. Ivan would have said, "Why do you have them doing that old powerlifting shit? They should be doing resistance band curls."
It was brought up around 2011 on dawgman that not a single one of our o linemen could bench over 400 lbs. Kim told everyone that football weight lifting has changed. Bench, squat, that stuff is in the past. It's all about stretching, plyometrics, and resistance now. Do you want to tell Ican how to coach weight lifting? I mean, look at those guns?
Anyways, that was all bullshit. Our offensive line kept getting pancaked. Our d linemen were either 250 lbs or 330 lbs and got pushed back into the secondary. Feld appears to be Ivan jr. based on pretty much everything we've seen.
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That's really the limit of the sark comps. His recruiting was all sizzle and controlling of the message for the doog masses to gobble up. He recruited like dog shit right under everyone's nose but used pawns like dawgman.com to convince doogs otherwise. Oregon is currently recruiting at a level Sark dreamed of at UW but never even came close to.
Christ, I'd think this was satire if I didn't know better.
UW's RS Freshman class has infused their roster with talent and combined with their true Freshman class and Jacob Eason replacing Browning, they now have a more talented roster than Oregon by a sizable gap. The gap isn't closing. UW hasn't been recruiting a bunch of overrated guys for the sake of online class rankings and they also haven't been recruiting injured guys. Regardless of bullshit internet recruiting rankings done by idiots, UW's last two recruiting classes were better than Oregon's, especially in the trenches and on defense. UW is pulling away from Oregon talent wise. The biggest gap that matters is the gap between coaching and player development. UW has that advantage as well.
I'm sure Oregon is selling the hell out of early playing time to Rosengarten. How did that work out for them when they did the same for Puka Nacua? Proven player development and better academics and conference championships trumps early playing time.
SAC when told Oregon beat Washington despite a talent disparity: UW is not more talented. Will write three paragraphs on it.
#fillmybutt
What made UW fans so excited about S&C under Sark? Were there tangible reasons or just talk? Sark obviously did some things right in 2009 and beyond. I, mean, that team was trash and he improved the team. I've seen both sides of the coin with Chip being all substance over style, Taggart and now Cristobal.
Cristobal talked about improving S&C and cutting down penalties in 2018. He accomplished that. Next will be playing well on the road.
How quickly you forget that Chip Kelly's teams were the best conditioned team on the field almost every game they played. Now Feld is the best Oregon's ever had after one mediocre season? Fuck you're dumb.
When your team gets blown out by undersized teams like Arizona and WSU and then ran all over by Utah last season, I don't think you should be bragging about your strength and conditioning program. But that's just me. Put together a complete season. Then you can feel good about Feld.
It was brought up around 2011 on dawgman that not a single one of our o linemen could bench over 400 lbs. Kim told everyone that football weight lifting has changed. Bench, squat, that stuff is in the past. It's all about stretching, plyometrics, and resistance now. Do you want to tell Ican how to coach weight lifting? I mean, look at those guns?
Anyways, that was all bullshit. Our offensive line kept getting pancaked. Our d linemen were either 250 lbs or 330 lbs and got pushed back into the secondary. Feld appears to be Ivan jr. based on pretty much everything we've seen.
Buckle up 12s...