Rosengarten is 100% going to UW. Blue-collar, hard working, physical kid from Colorado. Not a flashy guy. UW aligns with his identity and he also want to major in Business. Give him and his parents the Built for Life presentation as well as information about the Foster school of Business and it'll be a wrap. There's a reason UW got the last visit and we've never lost a recruiting battle to Oregon when we get the last visit. Don't know or care what the crystal ballers have heard. He's obviously going to UW. Will be a huge commitment that could motivate Hatchett to join him soon after and that would easily be the best OT class out West.
You put the fan in fanatical. I will give you that. He definitely won’t fit in with Oregon’s flashy OL.
UW's O-line has more All-Conference achievements than Oregon's does and the reigning Morris trophy award winner. Rosengarten will be our next McGary.
You sound like someone trying to convince himself.
linking stupid opinion pieces based on BS recruiting rankings doesn't change on field performance.
The Oregon hype is honestly a joke and I have no clue where it's coming from. I'm biased but anyone who compares Oregon and Washington's schedule, and then looks at the home and road records of both teams over the last 3 years and thinks Oregon is the favorite is just not paying attention.
Agree on the schedules. The hype is because the main formula “gurus” like Steele (who is a good informative but poor predictive read) look for is number of cohesive OL starts and seniors qbs. Oregon has all 5 OL back (with the most starts in the nation) and a senior qb.
I don’t agree with that methodology at all, just explaining why the pre season mag guys are so high on Oregon.
It amazes me that all the national stuff is all the same "returning starters" formula with little attention paid to schedule(which is more important IMO). I guess you'd have to actually look for more than 10 seconds at each team to figure that out though.
One of the Ty years the DAWGS had a veteran laden O line returning and the number of starts stat was a huge doog thing especially back then when it "could" be a good indicator more so than now.
Of course if all those starts were by guys who sucked and who were coached by Ty the results were the same as if they were all freshmen. We sucked again.
Today's game you have schools like Bama that recruit 5 stars across the front and have them three years so there is always turnover
Its why is pays not to run the Albert Einstein 76 passing routes per play offense but still
Rosengarten is 100% going to UW. Blue-collar, hard working, physical kid from Colorado. Not a flashy guy. UW aligns with his identity and he also want to major in Business. Give him and his parents the Built for Life presentation as well as information about the Foster school of Business and it'll be a wrap. There's a reason UW got the last visit and we've never lost a recruiting battle to Oregon when we get the last visit. Don't know or care what the crystal ballers have heard. He's obviously going to UW. Will be a huge commitment that could motivate Hatchett to join him soon after and that would easily be the best OT class out West.
You put the fan in fanatical. I will give you that. He definitely won’t fit in with Oregon’s flashy OL.
UW's O-line has more All-Conference achievements than Oregon's does and the reigning Morris trophy award winner. Rosengarten will be our next McGary.
You sound like someone trying to convince himself.
linking stupid opinion pieces based on BS recruiting rankings doesn't change on field performance.
The Oregon hype is honestly a joke and I have no clue where it's coming from. I'm biased but anyone who compares Oregon and Washington's schedule, and then looks at the home and road records of both teams over the last 3 years and thinks Oregon is the favorite is just not paying attention.
Agree on the schedules. The hype is because the main formula “gurus” like Steele (who is a good informative but poor predictive read) look for is number of cohesive OL starts and seniors qbs. Oregon has all 5 OL back (with the most starts in the nation) and a senior qb.
I don’t agree with that methodology at all, just explaining why the pre season mag guys are so high on Oregon.
It amazes me that all the national stuff is all the same "returning starters" formula with little attention paid to schedule(which is more important IMO). I guess you'd have to actually look for more than 10 seconds at each team to figure that out though.
Yeah, Wilber admitted on KJR a few months back that he picked Oregon to win the pac because they had the most guys returning and that he hadn't looked at any of the teams' schedules yet.
One of the Ty years the DAWGS had a veteran laden O line returning and the number of starts stat was a huge doog thing especially back then when it "could" be a good indicator more so than now.
Of course if all those starts were by guys who sucked and who were coached by Ty the results were the same as if they were all freshmen. We sucked again.
Today's game you have schools like Bama that recruit 5 stars across the front and have them three years so there is always turnover
Its why is pays not to run the Albert Einstein 76 passing routes per play offense but still
It wasn’t just the starts, it was the amount of boxing training they were doing together, they were training harder than ever!
Rosengarten is 100% going to UW. Blue-collar, hard working, physical kid from Colorado. Not a flashy guy. UW aligns with his identity and he also want to major in Business. Give him and his parents the Built for Life presentation as well as information about the Foster school of Business and it'll be a wrap. There's a reason UW got the last visit and we've never lost a recruiting battle to Oregon when we get the last visit. Don't know or care what the crystal ballers have heard. He's obviously going to UW. Will be a huge commitment that could motivate Hatchett to join him soon after and that would easily be the best OT class out West.
You put the fan in fanatical. I will give you that. He definitely won’t fit in with Oregon’s flashy OL.
UW's O-line has more All-Conference achievements than Oregon's does and the reigning Morris trophy award winner. Rosengarten will be our next McGary.
You sound like someone trying to convince himself.
Lol not really. The facts are kinda on my side. UW has owned Oregon in head to head recruiting battles and that will continue with this kid.
This is what Quooks do. Ignore the facts and cherry pick meaningless opinion articles that are favorable to Oregon. Your IQ must be so low.
Fact: Since Cristobal arrived at Oregon, UW has had more All-Conference offensive lineman. Those honors are voted for by the Pac-12 coaches. I think they are little more knowledgeable than media members don't you think?
Fact: Kaleb McGary was voted the Morris trophy winner by his peers as the best Pac-12 offensive lineman. Not an Oregon lineman. He then was drafted in the 1st round.
Fact: UW's business school blows Oregon's out of the water. If he cares about education at all which it appears he does, you know where he's going.
Remind me, how'd Oregon's fat ass O-line do against WSU and Arizona?
Whether those facts having any bearing on Rosengarten's recruitment is unknown. Fact is Cristobal was an OL that one a championship, he devotes 3 coaches to the unit and he's had a lot of success at OL. It seems blue chip recruits like that.
Cristobal didn't win no fucking championship. He was just on the team. He won a championship like the fucking janitor who cleans Saban's office won a championship. "It's a team effort" and "couldn't have been done without all of you", janitors and cafeteria cooks and Mario Cristobal alike. He got demoted from O-line coach to Offesnive Tackles and TE's coach. Why does every Oregon fan choose to ignore that fact? Steve Greatwood is a better O-line coach than Cristobal. As soon as Greatwood's recruits graduate after this season, your O-line will automatically get fatter and less athletic.
Lol...all of the recruits on the OL have lost substantial weight. They have another year to lose more. Randazzo and Aumavae-Laulu are both down into the 330’s and look great. Sewell is a truck at 340. The only two that need more weight off are Johnson and Jones and their S&C took a stall with injury. Jones is an absolute stud.
Also, there is a lot of resources given to the OL. Like a full time coach and GA.
Yeah uh huh sure buddy. Sewell is the only O-line recruit Cristobal has signed that UW would take. None of the rest were athletic enough even before they blew up and got extra fat. Good luck protecting the QB with a bunch of slow-footed lineman. You already saw the struggle they had versus the lighter, faster Pac-12 D-lines at WSU and Arizona. What will happen when the more athletic Greatwood recruits are gone? It's gonna get worse. Your O-line depth is trash. There's no need to lie. This is straight from Oregon's roster:
Chris Randazzo: 342 Steven Jones: 354 Justin Johnson: 341
Btw, I have it on really good authority that Jones was an absolute take by UW.
I have it on good authority Jones wanted to take a secret official visit to UW late in the cycle and UW said no thanks. Also have it on good authority that Jonah Tuanaunaunau'u wanted to flip to USC but his cock thirsty mother wouldn't sign his NLI to SC so he was forced to sign with Oregon.
USC was using a scare tactic. Also, that was out in the open.
Jones absolutely was a take and you’re foolish not to think so. If he wasn’t, it was a missed evaluation. Kid scored the highest grade by PFF against UCLA of any player on field. The talent is obvious.
Who cares what SC was doing? He didn't want to go to Oregon. He'll be in the transfer portal a year from now claiming homesickness.
Oh wow, Jones had one good game against the worst team in the conference that season? That's special.
Rosengarten is 100% going to UW. Blue-collar, hard working, physical kid from Colorado. Not a flashy guy. UW aligns with his identity and he also want to major in Business. Give him and his parents the Built for Life presentation as well as information about the Foster school of Business and it'll be a wrap. There's a reason UW got the last visit and we've never lost a recruiting battle to Oregon when we get the last visit. Don't know or care what the crystal ballers have heard. He's obviously going to UW. Will be a huge commitment that could motivate Hatchett to join him soon after and that would easily be the best OT class out West.
You put the fan in fanatical. I will give you that. He definitely won’t fit in with Oregon’s flashy OL.
UW's O-line has more All-Conference achievements than Oregon's does and the reigning Morris trophy award winner. Rosengarten will be our next McGary.
You sound like someone trying to convince himself.
Lol not really. The facts are kinda on my side. UW has owned Oregon in head to head recruiting battles and that will continue with this kid.
This is what Quooks do. Ignore the facts and cherry pick meaningless opinion articles that are favorable to Oregon. Your IQ must be so low.
Fact: Since Cristobal arrived at Oregon, UW has had more All-Conference offensive lineman. Those honors are voted for by the Pac-12 coaches. I think they are little more knowledgeable than media members don't you think?
Fact: Kaleb McGary was voted the Morris trophy winner by his peers as the best Pac-12 offensive lineman. Not an Oregon lineman. He then was drafted in the 1st round.
Fact: UW's business school blows Oregon's out of the water. If he cares about education at all which it appears he does, you know where he's going.
Remind me, how'd Oregon's fat ass O-line do against WSU and Arizona?
Whether those facts having any bearing on Rosengarten's recruitment is unknown. Fact is Cristobal was an OL that one a championship, he devotes 3 coaches to the unit and he's had a lot of success at OL. It seems blue chip recruits like that.
Cristobal didn't win no fucking championship. He was just on the team. He won a championship like the fucking janitor who cleans Saban's office won a championship. "It's a team effort" and "couldn't have been done without all of you", janitors and cafeteria cooks and Mario Cristobal alike. He got demoted from O-line coach to Offesnive Tackles and TE's coach. Why does every Oregon fan choose to ignore that fact? Steve Greatwood is a better O-line coach than Cristobal. As soon as Greatwood's recruits graduate after this season, your O-line will automatically get fatter and less athletic.
Lol...all of the recruits on the OL have lost substantial weight. They have another year to lose more. Randazzo and Aumavae-Laulu are both down into the 330’s and look great. Sewell is a truck at 340. The only two that need more weight off are Johnson and Jones and their S&C took a stall with injury. Jones is an absolute stud.
Also, there is a lot of resources given to the OL. Like a full time coach and GA.
Yeah uh huh sure buddy. Sewell is the only O-line recruit Cristobal has signed that UW would take. None of the rest were athletic enough even before they blew up and got extra fat. Good luck protecting the QB with a bunch of slow-footed lineman. You already saw the struggle they had versus the lighter, faster Pac-12 D-lines at WSU and Arizona. What will happen when the more athletic Greatwood recruits are gone? It's gonna get worse. Your O-line depth is trash. There's no need to lie. This is straight from Oregon's roster:
Chris Randazzo: 342 Steven Jones: 354 Justin Johnson: 341
Btw, I have it on really good authority that Jones was an absolute take by UW.
I have it on good authority Jones wanted to take a secret official visit to UW late in the cycle and UW said no thanks. Also have it on good authority that Jonah Tuanaunaunau'u wanted to flip to USC but his cock thirsty mother wouldn't sign his NLI to SC so he was forced to sign with Oregon.
USC was using a scare tactic. Also, that was out in the open.
Jones absolutely was a take and you’re foolish not to think so. If he wasn’t, it was a missed evaluation. Kid scored the highest grade by PFF against UCLA of any player on field. The talent is obvious.
Who cares what SC was doing? He didn't want to go to Oregon. He'll be in the transfer portal a year from now claiming homesickness.
Oh wow, Jones had one good game against the worst team in the conference that season? That's special.
SC told him that a math class wouldn’t allow him to enroll at Oregon. So, it isn’t about being homesick. Bottom line you do lot of fortune telling and it’s entirely negative for Oregon and positive for UW. It’s a cognitive distortion.
Jones was the best player on the field that day no matter which team, as a true frosh. That’s a better indication of future success than your distorted fortune telling.
You’re basically saying that because there are two out of shape players, the Oline is not athletic. The people that get paid to analyze recruits all mention Jones and Johnson as being athletic. If they take strength and conditioning seriously, they will be good to great players. They’ve already taken weight off and there is no indication that won’t continue.
One of the Ty years the DAWGS had a veteran laden O line returning and the number of starts stat was a huge doog thing especially back then when it "could" be a good indicator more so than now.
Of course if all those starts were by guys who sucked and who were coached by Ty the results were the same as if they were all freshmen. We sucked again.
Today's game you have schools like Bama that recruit 5 stars across the front and have them three years so there is always turnover
Its why is pays not to run the Albert Einstein 76 passing routes per play offense but still
Right. However Lemieux, Throckmorton, Sewell are all NFL caliber players and that’s not me making it up. There is experience and talent on the Duck’s oline. Where Oregon is win or lose is between Herbert’s ears and the WR making some plays. That’s the question on Oregon’s offense.
Rosengarten is 100% going to UW. Blue-collar, hard working, physical kid from Colorado. Not a flashy guy. UW aligns with his identity and he also want to major in Business. Give him and his parents the Built for Life presentation as well as information about the Foster school of Business and it'll be a wrap. There's a reason UW got the last visit and we've never lost a recruiting battle to Oregon when we get the last visit. Don't know or care what the crystal ballers have heard. He's obviously going to UW. Will be a huge commitment that could motivate Hatchett to join him soon after and that would easily be the best OT class out West.
You put the fan in fanatical. I will give you that. He definitely won’t fit in with Oregon’s flashy OL.
UW's O-line has more All-Conference achievements than Oregon's does and the reigning Morris trophy award winner. Rosengarten will be our next McGary.
You sound like someone trying to convince himself.
Lol not really. The facts are kinda on my side. UW has owned Oregon in head to head recruiting battles and that will continue with this kid.
This is what Quooks do. Ignore the facts and cherry pick meaningless opinion articles that are favorable to Oregon. Your IQ must be so low.
Fact: Since Cristobal arrived at Oregon, UW has had more All-Conference offensive lineman. Those honors are voted for by the Pac-12 coaches. I think they are little more knowledgeable than media members don't you think?
Fact: Kaleb McGary was voted the Morris trophy winner by his peers as the best Pac-12 offensive lineman. Not an Oregon lineman. He then was drafted in the 1st round.
Fact: UW's business school blows Oregon's out of the water. If he cares about education at all which it appears he does, you know where he's going.
Remind me, how'd Oregon's fat ass O-line do against WSU and Arizona?
Whether those facts having any bearing on Rosengarten's recruitment is unknown. Fact is Cristobal was an OL that one a championship, he devotes 3 coaches to the unit and he's had a lot of success at OL. It seems blue chip recruits like that.
Cristobal didn't win no fucking championship. He was just on the team. He won a championship like the fucking janitor who cleans Saban's office won a championship. "It's a team effort" and "couldn't have been done without all of you", janitors and cafeteria cooks and Mario Cristobal alike. He got demoted from O-line coach to Offesnive Tackles and TE's coach. Why does every Oregon fan choose to ignore that fact? Steve Greatwood is a better O-line coach than Cristobal. As soon as Greatwood's recruits graduate after this season, your O-line will automatically get fatter and less athletic.
Lol...all of the recruits on the OL have lost substantial weight. They have another year to lose more. Randazzo and Aumavae-Laulu are both down into the 330’s and look great. Sewell is a truck at 340. The only two that need more weight off are Johnson and Jones and their S&C took a stall with injury. Jones is an absolute stud.
Also, there is a lot of resources given to the OL. Like a full time coach and GA.
Yeah uh huh sure buddy. Sewell is the only O-line recruit Cristobal has signed that UW would take. None of the rest were athletic enough even before they blew up and got extra fat. Good luck protecting the QB with a bunch of slow-footed lineman. You already saw the struggle they had versus the lighter, faster Pac-12 D-lines at WSU and Arizona. What will happen when the more athletic Greatwood recruits are gone? It's gonna get worse. Your O-line depth is trash. There's no need to lie. This is straight from Oregon's roster:
Chris Randazzo: 342 Steven Jones: 354 Justin Johnson: 341
Btw, I have it on really good authority that Jones was an absolute take by UW.
I have it on good authority Jones wanted to take a secret official visit to UW late in the cycle and UW said no thanks. Also have it on good authority that Jonah Tuanaunaunau'u wanted to flip to USC but his cock thirsty mother wouldn't sign his NLI to SC so he was forced to sign with Oregon.
USC was using a scare tactic. Also, that was out in the open.
Jones absolutely was a take and you’re foolish not to think so. If he wasn’t, it was a missed evaluation. Kid scored the highest grade by PFF against UCLA of any player on field. The talent is obvious.
Who cares what SC was doing? He didn't want to go to Oregon. He'll be in the transfer portal a year from now claiming homesickness.
Oh wow, Jones had one good game against the worst team in the conference that season? That's special.
SC told him that a math class wouldn’t allow him to enroll at Oregon. So, it isn’t about being homesick. Bottom line you do lot of fortune telling and it’s entirely negative for Oregon and positive for UW. It’s a cognitive distortion.
Jones was the best player on the field that day no matter which team, as a true frosh. That’s a better indication of future success than your distorted fortune telling.
You’re basically saying that because there are two out of shape players, the Oline is not athletic. The people that get paid to analyze recruits all mention Jones and Johnson as being athletic. If they take strength and conditioning seriously, they will be good to great players. They’ve already taken weight off and there is no indication that won’t continue.
JFC he was not the best player on the field you unbelievable quook. You think Cristobal would be wasting time starting the fat transfer from Bama if Jones was some potential Freshman All-American. We saw him start Sewell as a true Freshman so why wouldn't he start Jones if he was so good? It's because he ain't that fucking good. Like I said, UCLA was terrible that season and had a completely gutted roster from Chip Kelly running off at least 30% of the team. Jones could have literally been going against walk-ons for all you know. Nothing about that one game is impressive.
I didn't name two fat, slow-footed players. I named three which might not seem like a big deal but it is. Oregon currently has 14 scholarship O-lineman on their roster. SIX of them are Seniors. That means Oregon will return only EIGHT scholarship lineman next season and THREE of them are slow-footed, unathletic fat asses who can only lean on guys in the run game and can't block, smaller, quicker D-lineman in pass pro. The Pac-12 is loaded with smaller, speed oriented D-lines because only UW and USC are able to recruit big bodied D-lineman.
So yeah, Oregon's O-line depth is trash and they are kinda fucked 2020 and beyond. On top of that, the 2020 class is a very weak class for offensive lineman, especially out West. When UW gets Rosengarten, Oregon will really be fucked. Greatwood was great at finding athletic, 3-star lineman and developing them into good players. Cristobal is fucking your O-line up with the fat asses. That SEC of West shit is not going to work in the Pac-12. You gotta have lineman that can move their feet in this league or else the speedier D-lines will blow right past them for sacks and tackles for loss like you saw against Arizona and WSU last season.
Rosengarten is 100% going to UW. Blue-collar, hard working, physical kid from Colorado. Not a flashy guy. UW aligns with his identity and he also want to major in Business. Give him and his parents the Built for Life presentation as well as information about the Foster school of Business and it'll be a wrap. There's a reason UW got the last visit and we've never lost a recruiting battle to Oregon when we get the last visit. Don't know or care what the crystal ballers have heard. He's obviously going to UW. Will be a huge commitment that could motivate Hatchett to join him soon after and that would easily be the best OT class out West.
You put the fan in fanatical. I will give you that. He definitely won’t fit in with Oregon’s flashy OL.
UW's O-line has more All-Conference achievements than Oregon's does and the reigning Morris trophy award winner. Rosengarten will be our next McGary.
You sound like someone trying to convince himself.
Lol not really. The facts are kinda on my side. UW has owned Oregon in head to head recruiting battles and that will continue with this kid.
This is what Quooks do. Ignore the facts and cherry pick meaningless opinion articles that are favorable to Oregon. Your IQ must be so low.
Fact: Since Cristobal arrived at Oregon, UW has had more All-Conference offensive lineman. Those honors are voted for by the Pac-12 coaches. I think they are little more knowledgeable than media members don't you think?
Fact: Kaleb McGary was voted the Morris trophy winner by his peers as the best Pac-12 offensive lineman. Not an Oregon lineman. He then was drafted in the 1st round.
Fact: UW's business school blows Oregon's out of the water. If he cares about education at all which it appears he does, you know where he's going.
Remind me, how'd Oregon's fat ass O-line do against WSU and Arizona?
Whether those facts having any bearing on Rosengarten's recruitment is unknown. Fact is Cristobal was an OL that one a championship, he devotes 3 coaches to the unit and he's had a lot of success at OL. It seems blue chip recruits like that.
Cristobal didn't win no fucking championship. He was just on the team. He won a championship like the fucking janitor who cleans Saban's office won a championship. "It's a team effort" and "couldn't have been done without all of you", janitors and cafeteria cooks and Mario Cristobal alike. He got demoted from O-line coach to Offesnive Tackles and TE's coach. Why does every Oregon fan choose to ignore that fact? Steve Greatwood is a better O-line coach than Cristobal. As soon as Greatwood's recruits graduate after this season, your O-line will automatically get fatter and less athletic.
Lol...all of the recruits on the OL have lost substantial weight. They have another year to lose more. Randazzo and Aumavae-Laulu are both down into the 330’s and look great. Sewell is a truck at 340. The only two that need more weight off are Johnson and Jones and their S&C took a stall with injury. Jones is an absolute stud.
Also, there is a lot of resources given to the OL. Like a full time coach and GA.
Yeah uh huh sure buddy. Sewell is the only O-line recruit Cristobal has signed that UW would take. None of the rest were athletic enough even before they blew up and got extra fat. Good luck protecting the QB with a bunch of slow-footed lineman. You already saw the struggle they had versus the lighter, faster Pac-12 D-lines at WSU and Arizona. What will happen when the more athletic Greatwood recruits are gone? It's gonna get worse. Your O-line depth is trash. There's no need to lie. This is straight from Oregon's roster:
Chris Randazzo: 342 Steven Jones: 354 Justin Johnson: 341
Btw, I have it on really good authority that Jones was an absolute take by UW.
I have it on good authority Jones wanted to take a secret official visit to UW late in the cycle and UW said no thanks. Also have it on good authority that Jonah Tuanaunaunau'u wanted to flip to USC but his cock thirsty mother wouldn't sign his NLI to SC so he was forced to sign with Oregon.
USC was using a scare tactic. Also, that was out in the open.
Jones absolutely was a take and you’re foolish not to think so. If he wasn’t, it was a missed evaluation. Kid scored the highest grade by PFF against UCLA of any player on field. The talent is obvious.
Who cares what SC was doing? He didn't want to go to Oregon. He'll be in the transfer portal a year from now claiming homesickness.
Oh wow, Jones had one good game against the worst team in the conference that season? That's special.
SC told him that a math class wouldn’t allow him to enroll at Oregon. So, it isn’t about being homesick. Bottom line you do lot of fortune telling and it’s entirely negative for Oregon and positive for UW. It’s a cognitive distortion.
Jones was the best player on the field that day no matter which team, as a true frosh. That’s a better indication of future success than your distorted fortune telling.
You’re basically saying that because there are two out of shape players, the Oline is not athletic. The people that get paid to analyze recruits all mention Jones and Johnson as being athletic. If they take strength and conditioning seriously, they will be good to great players. They’ve already taken weight off and there is no indication that won’t continue.
JFC he was not the best player on the field you unbelievable quook. You think Cristobal would be wasting time starting the fat transfer from Bama if Jones was some potential Freshman All-American. We saw him start Sewell as a true Freshman so why wouldn't he start Jones if he was so good? It's because he ain't that fucking good. Like I said, UCLA was terrible that season and had a completely gutted roster from Chip Kelly running off at least 30% of the team. Jones could have literally been going against walk-ons for all you know. Nothing about that one game is impressive.
I didn't name two fat, slow-footed players. I named three which might not seem like a big deal but it is. Oregon currently has 14 scholarship O-lineman on their roster. SIX of them are Seniors. That means Oregon will return only EIGHT scholarship lineman next season and THREE of them are slow-footed, unathletic fat asses who can only lean on guys in the run game and can't block, smaller, quicker D-lineman in pass pro. The Pac-12 is loaded with smaller, speed oriented D-lines because only UW and USC are able to recruit big bodied D-lineman.
So yeah, Oregon's O-line depth is trash and they are kinda fucked 2020 and beyond. On top of that, the 2020 class is a very weak class for offensive lineman, especially out West. When UW gets Rosengarten, Oregon will really be fucked. Greatwood was great at finding athletic, 3-star lineman and developing them into good players. Cristobal is fucking your O-line up with the fat asses. That SEC of West shit is not going to work in the Pac-12. You gotta have lineman that can move their feet in this league or else the speedier D-lines will blow right past them for sacks and tackles for loss like you saw against Arizona and WSU last season.
It’s a pretty simple explanation. Jones got better as the season went along, he got significant time in the UCLA game, he started against Utah and was injured. They tried to redshirt him because there wasn’t a need to play a true frosh.
Also, did Oregon lose against WSU and Zona because they’re bad on the road or because the OL got dominated by the DL? I can’t keep all of the Oregon ineptitude straight as the licked their way to 9 wins.
The fact that Jones saw the field at all raises major red flags about Oregon's O-line depth. Why wasn't there a RS Sophomore or Junior getting those game reps when there was an injury? When you have only EIGHT returning scholarship lineman for the 2020 season, and only one returning starter, how the fuck was the next best O-lineman in the depth a true Freshman? That's fucking terrible. You are in massive denial about what's coming down the pipe for Oregon's O-line. Cristobal is not some great O-line coach. He's a blowhard meathead who thinks big people beat little people. That only works if the big people are fucking athletic and can move their feet quickly.
I'm pretty sure it can be both. I watched both the Oregon games against WSU and Arizona. Oregon sucked on the road and their O-line struggled mightily with smaller, faster D-lines that do a lot of single gap penetrating. Oregon had defenders in the backfield before their lineman were barely out of their stances. Watch the first half of Oregon against WSU. Beating Oregon's O-line off the ball with speed and penetration is the formula to beat them and other teams will copy it. Oregon won't be sneaking up on anybody anymore and their schedule is brutal.
1) 3 wins against the worst non-conference schedule in the conference
2) A 5-4 P12 conference schedule that Sark would have been proud of
3) Beating Sparty in a bowl game that rivaled Cal/TCU for worst bowl game of the year
So yeah ... congrats on those 9 wins
Sure. It was an ugly 9 wins. However, if you’re honest with yourself, there’s a lot of positives as well. Oregon learned some resiliency. The team doesn’t have the mental fortitude to win an ugly game like MSU the past three years. They don’t bounce back and win 3 in a row after the stretch they had in the middle. I loved that Oregon pulled out an ugly win. If the offense didn’t play well, the defense always folded.
1) 3 wins against the worst non-conference schedule in the conference
2) A 5-4 P12 conference schedule that Sark would have been proud of
3) Beating Sparty in a bowl game that rivaled Cal/TCU for worst bowl game of the year
So yeah ... congrats on those 9 wins
Sure. It was an ugly 9 wins. However, if you’re honest with yourself, there’s a lot of positives as well. Oregon learned some resiliency. The team doesn’t have the mental fortitude to win an ugly game like MSU the past three years. They don’t bounce back and win 3 in a row after the stretch they had in the middle. I loved that Oregon pulled out an ugly win. If the offense didn’t play well, the defense always folded.
Michigan State's offense was the worst in the country at that point. The Redbox bowl was a retard fight with both offenses trying their hardest to lose the game. You sound exactly like a fucking doog during the Sark era. If UW had went to the Redbox bowl last season and won it 7-6, I would have considered that a loss. We have higher expectations now.
And one more thing for the Quooks on their off-season Natty celebration ... why are the idiots in the media picking Oregon to win the conference but the experts in Vegas backing UW hard?
1) 3 wins against the worst non-conference schedule in the conference
2) A 5-4 P12 conference schedule that Sark would have been proud of
3) Beating Sparty in a bowl game that rivaled Cal/TCU for worst bowl game of the year
So yeah ... congrats on those 9 wins
Sure. It was an ugly 9 wins. However, if you’re honest with yourself, there’s a lot of positives as well. Oregon learned some resiliency. The team doesn’t have the mental fortitude to win an ugly game like MSU the past three years. They don’t bounce back and win 3 in a row after the stretch they had in the middle. I loved that Oregon pulled out an ugly win. If the offense didn’t play well, the defense always folded.
Michigan State's offense was the worst in the country at that point. The Redbox bowl was a retard fight with both offenses trying their hardest to lose the game. You sound exactly like a fucking doog during the Sark era. If UW had went to the Redbox bowl last season and won it 7-6, I would have considered that a loss. We have higher expectations now.
I have followed the Ducks since ‘92. I have seen about everything dude. You are obsessed with making comparisons to your own experiences. Cristobal is on a different path than Sark.
1) 3 wins against the worst non-conference schedule in the conference
2) A 5-4 P12 conference schedule that Sark would have been proud of
3) Beating Sparty in a bowl game that rivaled Cal/TCU for worst bowl game of the year
So yeah ... congrats on those 9 wins
Sure. It was an ugly 9 wins. However, if you’re honest with yourself, there’s a lot of positives as well. Oregon learned some resiliency. The team doesn’t have the mental fortitude to win an ugly game like MSU the past three years. They don’t bounce back and win 3 in a row after the stretch they had in the middle. I loved that Oregon pulled out an ugly win. If the offense didn’t play well, the defense always folded.
Michigan State's offense was the worst in the country at that point. The Redbox bowl was a retard fight with both offenses trying their hardest to lose the game. You sound exactly like a fucking doog during the Sark era. If UW had went to the Redbox bowl last season and won it 7-6, I would have considered that a loss. We have higher expectations now.
I have followed the Ducks since ‘92. I have seen about everything dude. You are obsessed with making comparisons to your own experiences. Cristobal is on a different path than Sark.
Now we know you are full of shit ... football didn’t start until 1994
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Of course if all those starts were by guys who sucked and who were coached by Ty the results were the same as if they were all freshmen. We sucked again.
Today's game you have schools like Bama that recruit 5 stars across the front and have them three years so there is always turnover
Its why is pays not to run the Albert Einstein 76 passing routes per play offense but still
Oh wow, Jones had one good game against the worst team in the conference that season? That's special.
Jones was the best player on the field that day no matter which team, as a true frosh. That’s a better indication of future success than your distorted fortune telling.
You’re basically saying that because there are two out of shape players, the Oline is not athletic. The people that get paid to analyze recruits all mention Jones and Johnson as being athletic. If they take strength and conditioning seriously, they will be good to great players. They’ve already taken weight off and there is no indication that won’t continue.
Right. However Lemieux, Throckmorton, Sewell are all NFL caliber players and that’s not me making it up. There is experience and talent on the Duck’s oline. Where Oregon is win or lose is between Herbert’s ears and the WR making some plays. That’s the question on Oregon’s offense.
I didn't name two fat, slow-footed players. I named three which might not seem like a big deal but it is. Oregon currently has 14 scholarship O-lineman on their roster. SIX of them are Seniors. That means Oregon will return only EIGHT scholarship lineman next season and THREE of them are slow-footed, unathletic fat asses who can only lean on guys in the run game and can't block, smaller, quicker D-lineman in pass pro. The Pac-12 is loaded with smaller, speed oriented D-lines because only UW and USC are able to recruit big bodied D-lineman.
So yeah, Oregon's O-line depth is trash and they are kinda fucked 2020 and beyond. On top of that, the 2020 class is a very weak class for offensive lineman, especially out West. When UW gets Rosengarten, Oregon will really be fucked. Greatwood was great at finding athletic, 3-star lineman and developing them into good players. Cristobal is fucking your O-line up with the fat asses. That SEC of West shit is not going to work in the Pac-12. You gotta have lineman that can move their feet in this league or else the speedier D-lines will blow right past them for sacks and tackles for loss like you saw against Arizona and WSU last season.
1) 3 wins against the worst non-conference schedule in the conference
2) A 5-4 P12 conference schedule that Sark would have been proud of
3) Beating Sparty in a bowl game that rivaled Cal/TCU for worst bowl game of the year
So yeah ... congrats on those 9 wins
I'm pretty sure it can be both. I watched both the Oregon games against WSU and Arizona. Oregon sucked on the road and their O-line struggled mightily with smaller, faster D-lines that do a lot of single gap penetrating. Oregon had defenders in the backfield before their lineman were barely out of their stances. Watch the first half of Oregon against WSU. Beating Oregon's O-line off the ball with speed and penetration is the formula to beat them and other teams will copy it. Oregon won't be sneaking up on anybody anymore and their schedule is brutal.
1) Oregon pulls out a close win
2) UW pulls out a close win
3) UW pushes UW’s shit in
You’re fooling yourself if you think the likelihood isn’t lowest to highest probabilities on that list
Vegas has to be wrong ... clearly
I have followed the Ducks since ‘92. I have seen about everything dude. You are obsessed with making comparisons to your own experiences. Cristobal is on a different path than Sark.
I blame the gin
You’d have a better point if you gave me shit for drinking gin