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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,285

    I would say a new coach coming in off the heels of Taggert's ride getting an even class with the established Petersen doesn't bode will for recruiting ourselves to the top

    In fact this year only solidifies that though

    Oregon loves to recruit. Maybe a franchise recruiting website for the ducks would work.

    I think we fell behind USC as well this year as they recruited some "wide outs" whatever they are

    This. It would have been a miracle if they'd gotten a couple of geriatrics like Race and me to sign with them last year.

    If Cristoballin' has any success on the field there, he could wind up bringing in a lot of talent to the Youjeen.
    Your incessant sucking off of Cristobol has gotten to the point where it’s pathetic.
    7-11. Don't make me wait.
    I’ll bring Mario with me so you can gargle!
    Once again, I waited and you didn't show. Had to make small talk with a crack dealer.

    You confirmed yourself as a pussy.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,285

    WRDawg said:

    All of this is moot... we were the better team on the field despite the result. Oregon has out recruited Washington for the last decade pretty much. Pete has done more with less, but our good hasn't been good enough! Poor crunch time decisions by coach and a lackadaisical noodle arm leading the charge

    Look, I'm not going to pretend like I've not invoked this concept. I have. When Miami outrushed, outpassed, dominated and outeverything'd Penn State in the '86 Fiesta Bowl and despite all that could not overcome their QB's apparent need to throw 5 picks - 5 BAD picks - I said and say, they were the better team on the field despite the result. But I also still have to say, winners win.

    The box score of this year's Oregon game does not look like the box score of the '86 Fiesta Bowl. There's no doubt that Washington was the better team in 2018. Don't twist. But that day, on that field, in that game, Oregon played Washington straight up and circumstances gave them a chance to win, and they took it. That's football man.

    All jokes aside, would I put $$ on Cristobal proving himself to be Pete's equal in time? No. Pete is a really good coach, and it's hard to be a really good coach. That's why there aren't that many of them. So on odds alone, he probably won't be in Pete's class.

    But it was his first season, he improved them in some areas, and the jury is out. And like I told you fuckers, the guy can recruit, and that matters too. If he turns out to be a shit coach and all he does is recruit, then yeah it's all sizzle and hype.

    And I have to tell ya: the whole "does more with less" bit is played out. If Washington is the program it says it is, then the poor mouth routine has to stop. It's fine for Boise State. Not for Washington. If Pete can't recruit now, he never will.
    Here's the thing, this just reeks of "Sark beating #3 USC". Seemed like a big deal at the time but it turned out to be a good but flawed USC. Is there anyone on this boared that didn't see 2018 Washington as being good but flawed?

    We? lost to Cal! like we? always do and what turned out to be a 7-5 Auburn, we could have easily lost to UCLA as well.

    It was a good win for Oregon but that fact is telling. One good home win against a flawed team in a paper soft season and at least one completely awful loss to the best stanford team of our lifetimes. Take out the Washington win for a moment and consider a 7-4 record with 3 wins spotted against exhibition teams. It's not exactly as if Oregon is bare cupboard talent wise either.

    I agree Mario is an ace recruiter, early results say he's a mediocre coach. Worst case scenario for Dwags is that Mario keeps selling the sizzle, recruiting top classes, and then gets canned for someone competent who gets to walk into a program with 30+ blue chips already on the roster. That's what I'd actually be worried about.
    I didn't say it was a great win. I was just debating the "we were the better team on the field" bit, which just flatly isn't true.

    Oregon isn't bare, but it's thin at a few spots, WR being the most pronounced. Herbert locked in on one guy all season long, which made their passing game one-dimensional, which made it more and more anemic as the season wore on. It's Quooky, but I don't really hold much water in the Stanford game. That kind of unraveling has happened to every program and they really had been handling Stanford for most of the game. I just don't think there's enough there to really say one way or the other. Like I said, just on statistical probability alone, he's probably not going to prove to be a great coach. So I think the criticism of the hire that's fair is, why did you hire an unproven guy?

    The completely awful loss was the one to Arizona. If there's one game that Cristobal has to explain, it's that one.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Yup...Oregon is back. I saw Cristal-balls offense.. with everybody back on line I expect 225-250 on ground next year...very physical, downhill attack. With best qb in pac expect 250-300 thru the air as well. 40+ points per. Oregon is going to be very good
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,942
    The best QB in the Pac-12 this year couldn’t even play, hth pump.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,285

    Yup...Oregon is back. I saw Cristal-balls offense.. with everybody back on line I expect 225-250 on ground next year...very physical, downhill attack. With best qb in pac expect 250-300 thru the air as well. 40+ points per. Oregon is going to be very good
    More subtle. You're blowing your cover.

    Remember, I was doing this shit while you were still dating cheerleaders.

    I was arguing with @RaceBannon while he was in his 80s.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,285
    ntxduck said:

    WRDawg said:

    All of this is moot... we were the better team on the field despite the result. Oregon has out recruited Washington for the last decade pretty much. Pete has done more with less, but our good hasn't been good enough! Poor crunch time decisions by coach and a lackadaisical noodle arm leading the charge

    Look, I'm not going to pretend like I've not invoked this concept. I have. When Miami outrushed, outpassed, dominated and outeverything'd Penn State in the '86 Fiesta Bowl and despite all that could not overcome their QB's apparent need to throw 5 picks - 5 BAD picks - I said and say, they were the better team on the field despite the result. But I also still have to say, winners win.

    The box score of this year's Oregon game does not look like the box score of the '86 Fiesta Bowl. There's no doubt that Washington was the better team in 2018. Don't twist. But that day, on that field, in that game, Oregon played Washington straight up and circumstances gave them a chance to win, and they took it. That's football man.

    All jokes aside, would I put $$ on Cristobal proving himself to be Pete's equal in time? No. Pete is a really good coach, and it's hard to be a really good coach. That's why there aren't that many of them. So on odds alone, he probably won't be in Pete's class.

    But it was his first season, he improved them in some areas, and the jury is out. And like I told you fuckers, the guy can recruit, and that matters too. If he turns out to be a shit coach and all he does is recruit, then yeah it's all sizzle and hype.

    And I have to tell ya: the whole "does more with less" bit is played out. If Washington is the program it says it is, then the poor mouth routine has to stop. It's fine for Boise State. Not for Washington. If Pete can't recruit now, he never will.
    Here's the thing, this just reeks of "Sark beating #3 USC". Seemed like a big deal at the time but it turned out to be a good but flawed USC. Is there anyone on this boared that didn't see 2018 Washington as being good but flawed?

    We? lost to Cal! like we? always do and what turned out to be a 7-5 Auburn, we could have easily lost to UCLA as well.

    It was a good win for Oregon but that fact is telling. One good home win against a flawed team in a paper soft season and at least one completely awful loss to the best stanford team of our lifetimes. Take out the Washington win for a moment and consider a 7-4 record with 3 wins spotted against exhibition teams. It's not exactly as if Oregon is bare cupboard talent wise either.

    I agree Mario is an ace recruiter, early results say he's a mediocre coach. Worst case scenario for Dwags is that Mario keeps selling the sizzle, recruiting top classes, and then gets canned for someone competent who gets to walk into a program with 30+ blue chips already on the roster. That's what I'd actually be worried about.
    I didn't say it was a great win. I was just debating the "we were the better team on the field" bit, which just flatly isn't true.

    Oregon isn't bare, but it's thin at a few spots, WR being the most pronounced. Herbert locked in on one guy all season long, which made their passing game one-dimensional, which made it more and more anemic as the season wore on. It's Quooky, but I don't really hold much water in the Stanford game. That kind of unraveling has happened to every program and they really had been handling Stanford for most of the game. I just don't think there's enough there to really say one way or the other. Like I said, just on statistical probability alone, he's probably not going to prove to be a great coach. So I think the criticism of the hire that's fair is, why did you hire an unproven guy?

    The completely awful loss was the one to Arizona. If there's one game that Cristobal has to explain, it's that one.
    Arizona and @Utah, in Utah's first game with a backup QB and back RB. Those first halves were embarrassing (as was the first half at WSU but we lose to them every year so I wasn't expecting anything other than an L)
    True. I couldn't figure out if Shelley and what's his face were a lot better than we should have expected, or if Oregon was making them look that way.

    I'll say this: Huntley wasn't much better. Kid could hit the broad side of a barn to save his life.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,554 Founders Club

    ntxduck said:

    WRDawg said:

    All of this is moot... we were the better team on the field despite the result. Oregon has out recruited Washington for the last decade pretty much. Pete has done more with less, but our good hasn't been good enough! Poor crunch time decisions by coach and a lackadaisical noodle arm leading the charge

    Look, I'm not going to pretend like I've not invoked this concept. I have. When Miami outrushed, outpassed, dominated and outeverything'd Penn State in the '86 Fiesta Bowl and despite all that could not overcome their QB's apparent need to throw 5 picks - 5 BAD picks - I said and say, they were the better team on the field despite the result. But I also still have to say, winners win.

    The box score of this year's Oregon game does not look like the box score of the '86 Fiesta Bowl. There's no doubt that Washington was the better team in 2018. Don't twist. But that day, on that field, in that game, Oregon played Washington straight up and circumstances gave them a chance to win, and they took it. That's football man.

    All jokes aside, would I put $$ on Cristobal proving himself to be Pete's equal in time? No. Pete is a really good coach, and it's hard to be a really good coach. That's why there aren't that many of them. So on odds alone, he probably won't be in Pete's class.

    But it was his first season, he improved them in some areas, and the jury is out. And like I told you fuckers, the guy can recruit, and that matters too. If he turns out to be a shit coach and all he does is recruit, then yeah it's all sizzle and hype.

    And I have to tell ya: the whole "does more with less" bit is played out. If Washington is the program it says it is, then the poor mouth routine has to stop. It's fine for Boise State. Not for Washington. If Pete can't recruit now, he never will.
    Here's the thing, this just reeks of "Sark beating #3 USC". Seemed like a big deal at the time but it turned out to be a good but flawed USC. Is there anyone on this boared that didn't see 2018 Washington as being good but flawed?

    We? lost to Cal! like we? always do and what turned out to be a 7-5 Auburn, we could have easily lost to UCLA as well.

    It was a good win for Oregon but that fact is telling. One good home win against a flawed team in a paper soft season and at least one completely awful loss to the best stanford team of our lifetimes. Take out the Washington win for a moment and consider a 7-4 record with 3 wins spotted against exhibition teams. It's not exactly as if Oregon is bare cupboard talent wise either.

    I agree Mario is an ace recruiter, early results say he's a mediocre coach. Worst case scenario for Dwags is that Mario keeps selling the sizzle, recruiting top classes, and then gets canned for someone competent who gets to walk into a program with 30+ blue chips already on the roster. That's what I'd actually be worried about.
    I didn't say it was a great win. I was just debating the "we were the better team on the field" bit, which just flatly isn't true.

    Oregon isn't bare, but it's thin at a few spots, WR being the most pronounced. Herbert locked in on one guy all season long, which made their passing game one-dimensional, which made it more and more anemic as the season wore on. It's Quooky, but I don't really hold much water in the Stanford game. That kind of unraveling has happened to every program and they really had been handling Stanford for most of the game. I just don't think there's enough there to really say one way or the other. Like I said, just on statistical probability alone, he's probably not going to prove to be a great coach. So I think the criticism of the hire that's fair is, why did you hire an unproven guy?

    The completely awful loss was the one to Arizona. If there's one game that Cristobal has to explain, it's that one.
    Arizona and @Utah, in Utah's first game with a backup QB and back RB. Those first halves were embarrassing (as was the first half at WSU but we lose to them every year so I wasn't expecting anything other than an L)
    True. I couldn't figure out if Shelley and what's his face were a lot better than we should have expected, or if Oregon was making them look that way.

    I'll say this: Huntley wasn't much better. Kid could hit the broad side of a barn to save his life.
    They weren't

    3 points in the CCG
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,554 Founders Club
    Pumpeii on record for UO to go 500 yards a game and 40 points

    Taking action on that bet now

    They'll hit that mark against the refuse they play same as us? Utah, Stanford, UW and maybe ASU will put a damper on them with good defense

    As bad as the Pac is it should be a good race. Just pretend there isn't a playoff that none of us will make and fight for the legendary Pac 12 crown