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    BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    dongman said:

    Ballz has fucking lost it.

    "Our coaches are different and don't care about money "

    Gtfo

    Also our former DC Pete Kwiatkowski, who was the best DC in the conference, stepped down from play calling duties and gave his job to Jimmy Lake to keep him on staff and took a pay cut by doing so. You never see something like that happening elsewhere. Our coaches are different. Very low ego and money doesn't rule their decision making.
    Kwiat doesn’t do that in a vacuum. It’s clear Jimmy Lake has a high value worth. Pete knows what he’s capable of. Kwiat was given a nudge and a smile to oblige Jimmy as co DC. Now Kwiat didn’t throw a fit and leave but it all happened because Pete wants Jimmy on his side, even at the expense of Kwiat.
    This is false. Kwiatkowski is the one who approached Petersen about stepping down and giving his job to Lake. Petersen had nothing to do with it. It was a selfless act by Kwiatkowski in favor of keeping the staff together for the betterment of the team and it involved him giving up hundreds of thousands of dollars as well.
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    GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,147
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    This happens every year and yet he's still here. People think he's full of shit when he says he's staying and are proven wrong time and time again (Hi fat fuck Fetters and Ektard). Colorado is a shit job. They don't have the recruiting potential or infrastructure to be a good program. It's a black hole job. Nobody can succeed there no matter how good they are. I would be shocked if Jimmy took that job. Being reported as a top target for Colorado doesn't mean he has any interest in the job at all. If I were him, I'd wait for the USC job to open up one or two years from now.

    You realize head coaches get 3-5 million dollars a year and keep getting it even if they get fired?

    You take the job no questions asked if offered.
    Our coaches are different than many others. It's not just about money with them. Money doesn't rule their lives. Being happy living in a certain location and having a happy family far outweigh their desire for more money. Does Jimmy have head coaching ambition? Yes, but I think his ambition goes much higher than being the HC at a shit program like Colorado. He's young. The money will be there when the blue bloods start calling.
    Lol, what a hot load of ballz doog nonsense. Coaches are coaches, and they’re going to do what’s right for their career. For Jimmy that probably means staying another year or two. But you of all people don’t have a fucking clue what he’s going to do, let alone what his personal motivations are.
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    GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,147
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    dongman said:

    This happens every year and yet he's still here. People think he's full of shit when he says he's staying and are proven wrong time and time again (Hi fat fuck Fetters and Ektard). Colorado is a shit job. They don't have the recruiting potential or infrastructure to be a good program. It's a black hole job. Nobody can succeed there no matter how good they are. I would be shocked if Jimmy took that job. Being reported as a top target for Colorado doesn't mean he has any interest in the job at all. If I were him, I'd wait for the USC job to open up one or two years from now.

    You realize head coaches get 3-5 million dollars a year and keep getting it even if they get fired?

    You take the job no questions asked if offered.
    Our coaches are different than many others. It's not just about money with them. Money doesn't rule their lives. Being happy living in a certain location and having a happy family far outweigh their desire for more money. Does Jimmy have head coaching ambition? Yes, but I think his ambition goes much higher than being the HC at a shit program like Colorado. He's young. The money will be there when the blue bloods start calling.
    lol, okay...........if someone offers him 2.5+ he’s going. Sounds like CU wants someone with past experience, IMO a shit move for CU, Lake is worth it. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him make a jump to NFL (coordinator) before a college head coach anyway. Especially with the way the game is changing. He has the mind to do it.
    Not if it's not the right fit. Like I said, the money will come when he starts getting offers from bigger schools. It's called betting on yourself instead of jumping at the first Power 5 HC job offer. Last year he was a top DC candidate. Now he's a DC and a lower-tier Power 5 HC candidate. A year or two from now he'll be a blue blood candidate. Patience is a virtue and his patience will payoff.
    This is all correct. It’s also not what you said in your initial post.
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    BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    Domicillo said:

    Can we please not put the staff on some unfounded moral pedestal. Pete has plenty of former coaches and staff across the football landscape. Every time he gets a question about development he always relates it to his belief in developing his coaching staff as well. He's always supported his guys taking other opportunities and even encourages hiring people who've worked on other staffs before too because they can get a better understanding of the reasoning behind Pete's philosophy. If money didn't matter then Pete wouldn't have given out raises, including renegotiating his own contract at times to demand an increase in budget capacity from the AD dedicated for personnel payroll. You'll see it again this offseason just like every year so far; some staff will get increases, some roles will be readjusted, some people choose will go elsewhere and some will be encouraged to go elsewhere.

    Can you fucking read? I never said money doesn't matter. But obviously our coaching staff cares less about money than most coaches. This has been proven by the actions of Petersen, Kwiatkowski, and Lake and is indisputable. All have turned down more money to go elsewhere. They absolutely belong on a pedestal. No other coaching staff is like this. Instead of denying it maybe you should realize it and appreciate it while it lasts.
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    doogville said:

    Domicillo said:

    Can we please not put the staff on some unfounded moral pedestal. Pete has plenty of former coaches and staff across the football landscape. Every time he gets a question about development he always relates it to his belief in developing his coaching staff as well. He's always supported his guys taking other opportunities and even encourages hiring people who've worked on other staffs before too because they can get a better understanding of the reasoning behind Pete's philosophy. If money didn't matter then Pete wouldn't have given out raises, including renegotiating his own contract at times to demand an increase in budget capacity from the AD dedicated for personnel payroll. You'll see it again this offseason just like every year so far; some staff will get increases, some roles will be readjusted, some people choose will go elsewhere and some will be encouraged to go elsewhere.

    Jfc. He didn't say money doesn't matter, he said it's not everything. Of course Pete goes and gets more money for his guys.

    But if all Jimmy da gawd lake cared about was a salary increase, he'd be coaching cal right now.

    Jimny lake has been a DC for one year. Maybe he likes learning from two of the best coaches in the country and isn't in a hurry to go to some shithole like Colorado and faceplant?

    It's not that hard.

    Colorado is not a shit hole. CU is a shit hole. Boulder fucking sucks and it’s a shit tier job.
    Disagree. Boulder is a top notch college town and CU is easily in the upper half of PAC-12 jobs.
    Boulder is fucking gross. I hate fucking Boulder. It’s just a bunch of left winged hippy fucks. Boulder DGAF about Football to make a good hire. It’s hard to recruit there now too. But fuck those guys. They are the fucking worst. They got cucked by Kansas fucking Kansas for Les Miles.
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    doogville said:

    Domicillo said:

    Can we please not put the staff on some unfounded moral pedestal. Pete has plenty of former coaches and staff across the football landscape. Every time he gets a question about development he always relates it to his belief in developing his coaching staff as well. He's always supported his guys taking other opportunities and even encourages hiring people who've worked on other staffs before too because they can get a better understanding of the reasoning behind Pete's philosophy. If money didn't matter then Pete wouldn't have given out raises, including renegotiating his own contract at times to demand an increase in budget capacity from the AD dedicated for personnel payroll. You'll see it again this offseason just like every year so far; some staff will get increases, some roles will be readjusted, some people choose will go elsewhere and some will be encouraged to go elsewhere.

    Jfc. He didn't say money doesn't matter, he said it's not everything. Of course Pete goes and gets more money for his guys.

    But if all Jimmy da gawd lake cared about was a salary increase, he'd be coaching cal right now.

    Jimny lake has been a DC for one year. Maybe he likes learning from two of the best coaches in the country and isn't in a hurry to go to some shithole like Colorado and faceplant?

    It's not that hard.

    Colorado is not a shit hole. CU is a shit hole. Boulder fucking sucks and it’s a shit tier job.
    Disagree. Boulder is a top notch college town and CU is easily in the upper half of PAC-12 jobs.
    Should be and could be. I think they are in a crucial spot. If they fuck this one up they really set things back again. IMO they’re gonna go cheapish on a okay pick.
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,601
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    Baseman said:

    Domicillo said:

    Can we please not put the staff on some unfounded moral pedestal. Pete has plenty of former coaches and staff across the football landscape. Every time he gets a question about development he always relates it to his belief in developing his coaching staff as well. He's always supported his guys taking other opportunities and even encourages hiring people who've worked on other staffs before too because they can get a better understanding of the reasoning behind Pete's philosophy. If money didn't matter then Pete wouldn't have given out raises, including renegotiating his own contract at times to demand an increase in budget capacity from the AD dedicated for personnel payroll. You'll see it again this offseason just like every year so far; some staff will get increases, some roles will be readjusted, some people choose will go elsewhere and some will be encouraged to go elsewhere.

    Can you fucking read? I never said money doesn't matter. But obviously our coaching staff cares less about money than most coaches. This has been proven by the actions of Petersen, Kwiatkowski, and Lake and is indisputable. All have turned down more money to go elsewhere. They absolutely belong on a pedestal. No other coaching staff is like this. Instead of denying it maybe you should realize it and appreciate it while it lasts.
    Kawasaki’s market is limited. He can’t recruit and is perfectly comfortable staying in Pete’s shadow.

    Peterman is the highest paid coach in the PAC-12 and landed in Seattle just before the real estate boom. Knocking down the big dough requires heading southeast where the fan base wont allow a Jake Browning, a Bob Gregory or tolerate “built for life” over built for Saturday’s.

    If you think money doesn’t matter to Jimmy Lake, think again. He’s not looking for a mid-level PAC 12 gig with a $10 million guarantee. He doesn’t want to be Justin Wilcox, he’s thinking bigger.

    CFB is littered with former gotta have coordinators who washed out after taking shit jobs.

    With a burgeoning influx of defensive talent and a sterling reputation with recruiting, x&os, and no off-field baggage, Lake is setting himself up for the big job with a big pay day.

    The more he says no, the more his mystique grows. Altruism? El oh El
    Our guys are the most specialist of the football coaches!!
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    BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,365
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    Baseman said:

    Domicillo said:

    Can we please not put the staff on some unfounded moral pedestal. Pete has plenty of former coaches and staff across the football landscape. Every time he gets a question about development he always relates it to his belief in developing his coaching staff as well. He's always supported his guys taking other opportunities and even encourages hiring people who've worked on other staffs before too because they can get a better understanding of the reasoning behind Pete's philosophy. If money didn't matter then Pete wouldn't have given out raises, including renegotiating his own contract at times to demand an increase in budget capacity from the AD dedicated for personnel payroll. You'll see it again this offseason just like every year so far; some staff will get increases, some roles will be readjusted, some people choose will go elsewhere and some will be encouraged to go elsewhere.

    Can you fucking read? I never said money doesn't matter. But obviously our coaching staff cares less about money than most coaches. This has been proven by the actions of Petersen, Kwiatkowski, and Lake and is indisputable. All have turned down more money to go elsewhere. They absolutely belong on a pedestal. No other coaching staff is like this. Instead of denying it maybe you should realize it and appreciate it while it lasts.
    Kawasaki’s market is limited. He can’t recruit and is perfectly comfortable staying in Pete’s shadow.

    Peterman is the highest paid coach in the PAC-12 and landed in Seattle just before the real estate boom. Knocking down the big dough requires heading southeast where the fan base wont allow a Jake Browning, a Bob Gregory or tolerate “built for life” over built for Saturday’s.

    If you think money doesn’t matter to Jimmy Lake, think again. He’s not looking for a mid-level PAC 12 gig with a $10 million guarantee. He doesn’t want to be Justin Wilcox, he’s thinking bigger.

    CFB is littered with former gotta have coordinators who washed out after taking shit jobs.

    With a burgeoning influx of defensive talent and a sterling reputation with recruiting, x&os, and no off-field baggage, Lake is setting himself up for the big job with a big pay day.

    The more he says no, the more his mystique grows. Altruism? El oh El
    Our guys are the most specialist of the football coaches!!
    Our?
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    BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    Baseman said:

    Domicillo said:

    Can we please not put the staff on some unfounded moral pedestal. Pete has plenty of former coaches and staff across the football landscape. Every time he gets a question about development he always relates it to his belief in developing his coaching staff as well. He's always supported his guys taking other opportunities and even encourages hiring people who've worked on other staffs before too because they can get a better understanding of the reasoning behind Pete's philosophy. If money didn't matter then Pete wouldn't have given out raises, including renegotiating his own contract at times to demand an increase in budget capacity from the AD dedicated for personnel payroll. You'll see it again this offseason just like every year so far; some staff will get increases, some roles will be readjusted, some people choose will go elsewhere and some will be encouraged to go elsewhere.

    Can you fucking read? I never said money doesn't matter. But obviously our coaching staff cares less about money than most coaches. This has been proven by the actions of Petersen, Kwiatkowski, and Lake and is indisputable. All have turned down more money to go elsewhere. They absolutely belong on a pedestal. No other coaching staff is like this. Instead of denying it maybe you should realize it and appreciate it while it lasts.
    Kawasaki’s market is limited. He can’t recruit and is perfectly comfortable staying in Pete’s shadow.

    Peterman is the highest paid coach in the PAC-12 and landed in Seattle just before the real estate boom. Knocking down the big dough requires heading southeast where the fan base wont allow a Jake Browning, a Bob Gregory or tolerate “built for life” over built for Saturday’s.

    If you think money doesn’t matter to Jimmy Lake, think again. He’s not looking for a mid-level PAC 12 gig with a $10 million guarantee. He doesn’t want to be Justin Wilcox, he’s thinking bigger.

    CFB is littered with former gotta have coordinators who washed out after taking shit jobs.

    With a burgeoning influx of defensive talent and a sterling reputation with recruiting, x&os, and no off-field baggage, Lake is setting himself up for the big job with a big pay day.

    The more he says no, the more his mystique grows. Altruism? El oh El
    AGAIN YOU FUCKING IDIOT! Go re-read my fucking posts. I never said "money doesn't matter". Of course it's a fucking factor. Does not mean it is the #1 factor that drives his decision process. Location, family, staff continuity, general happiness all play a role. The facts 100% back. Money is not the #1 factor for our coaches. Petersen, Kwiatkowski, and Lake have all turned down more money to stay at UW. That is a FACT. You are literally trying to tell me I'm wrong in one sense when the facts are on my side while also saying the same shit that I've already fucking said in that Lake has higher ambitions than a job like Colorado and will wait for a blue blood to offer him their HC job.
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,601
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    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    Domicillo said:

    Can we please not put the staff on some unfounded moral pedestal. Pete has plenty of former coaches and staff across the football landscape. Every time he gets a question about development he always relates it to his belief in developing his coaching staff as well. He's always supported his guys taking other opportunities and even encourages hiring people who've worked on other staffs before too because they can get a better understanding of the reasoning behind Pete's philosophy. If money didn't matter then Pete wouldn't have given out raises, including renegotiating his own contract at times to demand an increase in budget capacity from the AD dedicated for personnel payroll. You'll see it again this offseason just like every year so far; some staff will get increases, some roles will be readjusted, some people choose will go elsewhere and some will be encouraged to go elsewhere.

    Can you fucking read? I never said money doesn't matter. But obviously our coaching staff cares less about money than most coaches. This has been proven by the actions of Petersen, Kwiatkowski, and Lake and is indisputable. All have turned down more money to go elsewhere. They absolutely belong on a pedestal. No other coaching staff is like this. Instead of denying it maybe you should realize it and appreciate it while it lasts.
    Kawasaki’s market is limited. He can’t recruit and is perfectly comfortable staying in Pete’s shadow.

    Peterman is the highest paid coach in the PAC-12 and landed in Seattle just before the real estate boom. Knocking down the big dough requires heading southeast where the fan base wont allow a Jake Browning, a Bob Gregory or tolerate “built for life” over built for Saturday’s.

    If you think money doesn’t matter to Jimmy Lake, think again. He’s not looking for a mid-level PAC 12 gig with a $10 million guarantee. He doesn’t want to be Justin Wilcox, he’s thinking bigger.

    CFB is littered with former gotta have coordinators who washed out after taking shit jobs.

    With a burgeoning influx of defensive talent and a sterling reputation with recruiting, x&os, and no off-field baggage, Lake is setting himself up for the big job with a big pay day.

    The more he says no, the more his mystique grows. Altruism? El oh El
    Our guys are the most specialist of the football coaches!!
    Our?
    Oh fuck
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    MisterEmMisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
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    CU is a fucking shit job. The faggiest school in pac-12. Have the hottest bitches though so they could be become STDU lite.

    It's not a shit job, middle-tier football potential.

    Second point.... you are correct.
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    doogville said:

    Domicillo said:

    Can we please not put the staff on some unfounded moral pedestal. Pete has plenty of former coaches and staff across the football landscape. Every time he gets a question about development he always relates it to his belief in developing his coaching staff as well. He's always supported his guys taking other opportunities and even encourages hiring people who've worked on other staffs before too because they can get a better understanding of the reasoning behind Pete's philosophy. If money didn't matter then Pete wouldn't have given out raises, including renegotiating his own contract at times to demand an increase in budget capacity from the AD dedicated for personnel payroll. You'll see it again this offseason just like every year so far; some staff will get increases, some roles will be readjusted, some people choose will go elsewhere and some will be encouraged to go elsewhere.

    Jfc. He didn't say money doesn't matter, he said it's not everything. Of course Pete goes and gets more money for his guys.

    But if all Jimmy da gawd lake cared about was a salary increase, he'd be coaching cal right now.

    Jimny lake has been a DC for one year. Maybe he likes learning from two of the best coaches in the country and isn't in a hurry to go to some shithole like Colorado and faceplant?

    It's not that hard.

    Colorado is not a shit hole. CU is a shit hole. Boulder fucking sucks and it’s a shit tier job.
    Disagree. Boulder is a top notch college town and CU is easily in the upper half of PAC-12 jobs.
    Boulder is fucking gross. I hate fucking Boulder. It’s just a bunch of left winged hippy fucks. Boulder DGAF about Football to make a good hire. It’s hard to recruit there now too. But fuck those guys. They are the fucking worst. They got cucked by Kansas fucking Kansas for Les Miles.
    Someday you will grow to a place of enlightenment and age where uber hot coeds with daddy issues is of value.
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    MisterEmMisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
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    doogville said:

    Domicillo said:

    Can we please not put the staff on some unfounded moral pedestal. Pete has plenty of former coaches and staff across the football landscape. Every time he gets a question about development he always relates it to his belief in developing his coaching staff as well. He's always supported his guys taking other opportunities and even encourages hiring people who've worked on other staffs before too because they can get a better understanding of the reasoning behind Pete's philosophy. If money didn't matter then Pete wouldn't have given out raises, including renegotiating his own contract at times to demand an increase in budget capacity from the AD dedicated for personnel payroll. You'll see it again this offseason just like every year so far; some staff will get increases, some roles will be readjusted, some people choose will go elsewhere and some will be encouraged to go elsewhere.

    Jfc. He didn't say money doesn't matter, he said it's not everything. Of course Pete goes and gets more money for his guys.

    But if all Jimmy da gawd lake cared about was a salary increase, he'd be coaching cal right now.

    Jimny lake has been a DC for one year. Maybe he likes learning from two of the best coaches in the country and isn't in a hurry to go to some shithole like Colorado and faceplant?

    It's not that hard.

    Colorado is not a shit hole. CU is a shit hole. Boulder fucking sucks and it’s a shit tier job.
    Disagree. Boulder is a top notch college town and CU is easily in the upper half of PAC-12 jobs.
    Boulder is fucking gross. I hate fucking Boulder. It’s just a bunch of left winged hippy fucks. Boulder DGAF about Football to make a good hire. It’s hard to recruit there now too. But fuck those guys. They are the fucking worst. They got cucked by Kansas fucking Kansas for Les Miles.
    You’re trying way too hard to be someone you’re not.
    Too young to remember a solid CU program. Also, infiltrated with CSU AIDS.
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    doogville said:

    Domicillo said:

    Can we please not put the staff on some unfounded moral pedestal. Pete has plenty of former coaches and staff across the football landscape. Every time he gets a question about development he always relates it to his belief in developing his coaching staff as well. He's always supported his guys taking other opportunities and even encourages hiring people who've worked on other staffs before too because they can get a better understanding of the reasoning behind Pete's philosophy. If money didn't matter then Pete wouldn't have given out raises, including renegotiating his own contract at times to demand an increase in budget capacity from the AD dedicated for personnel payroll. You'll see it again this offseason just like every year so far; some staff will get increases, some roles will be readjusted, some people choose will go elsewhere and some will be encouraged to go elsewhere.

    Jfc. He didn't say money doesn't matter, he said it's not everything. Of course Pete goes and gets more money for his guys.

    But if all Jimmy da gawd lake cared about was a salary increase, he'd be coaching cal right now.

    Jimny lake has been a DC for one year. Maybe he likes learning from two of the best coaches in the country and isn't in a hurry to go to some shithole like Colorado and faceplant?

    It's not that hard.

    Colorado is not a shit hole. CU is a shit hole. Boulder fucking sucks and it’s a shit tier job.
    Disagree. Boulder is a top notch college town and CU is easily in the upper half of PAC-12 jobs.
    Boulder is fucking gross. I hate fucking Boulder. It’s just a bunch of left winged hippy fucks. Boulder DGAF about Football to make a good hire. It’s hard to recruit there now too. But fuck those guys. They are the fucking worst. They got cucked by Kansas fucking Kansas for Les Miles.
    Half of college is hanging out with hippies, kid. And it's always fun.
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