My whole thing is Banks was using as his back up option. We showed his major love in the winter and spring and recruited him all while Alabama slowed played him. Alabama tells him we want you at ILB but are unsure you can handle it so he loses a bunch of weight and trains all spring just to go to the Alabama camp to perform to the coaches to show them he can play ILB. Once Alabama keeps slow playing afterwards is when we jump out in front but let's be real we were his back up option and that's how he used us all spring and summer.
What obligation did UW have to Banks? He all had all winter, spring, and summer to commit, he choose not to and his spot got taken. Tell me what UW did wrong and what there obligation was to him?
Agree.
However we've been told previously they would hold a spot for Smalls. So are we to believe if Banks committed a month ago, and then Smalls committed today, it'd be ok, but in the opposite order it's not possible?
That doesn't seem just a bit silly to anyone else...?
One they are different talent levels, Smalls could wait until February, Banks doesn't have that luxury. Banks was initially slow playing UW until late summer after he performed in front of the Alabama coaches and they weren't impressed enough to push for him. Then he scheduled his visit to UW for the USC game but by that time Smalls to UW was almost a done deal. He choose to wait to see if Alabama would take him and he now has to suffer the consequences.
What obligation did UW have to Banks? He all had all winter, spring, and summer to commit, he choose not to and his spot got taken. Tell me what UW did wrong and what there obligation was to him?
Agree.
However we've been told previously they would hold a spot for Smalls. So are we to believe if Banks committed a month ago, and then Smalls committed today, it'd be ok, but in the opposite order it's not possible?
That doesn't seem just a bit silly to anyone else...?
One they are different talent levels, Smalls could wait until February, Banks doesn't have that luxury. Banks was initially slow playing UW until late summer after he performed in front of the Alabama coaches and they weren't impressed enough to push for him. Then he scheduled his visit to UW for the USC game but by that time Smalls to UW was almost a done deal. He choose to wait to see if Alabama would take him and he now has to suffer the consequences.
If smalls had waited a few more weeks, and banks wanted to commit this Saturday after the game, would they have taken it?
Over on BDTW @sonics1993 says we dropped Banks cause Smalls committed and we still have Lohohea joining in this class with no one graduating. Makes sense I suppose but it still hurts that we are passing on him because we have Myles Rice and Ryan Bowman on the roster.
Over on BDTW @sonics1993 says we dropped Banks cause Smalls committed and we still have Lohohea joining in this class with no one graduating. Makes sense I suppose but it still hurts that we are passing on him because we have Myles Rice and Ryan Bowman on the roster.
Over on BDTW @sonics1993 says we dropped Banks cause Smalls committed and we still have Lohohea joining in this class with no one graduating. Makes sense I suppose but it still hurts that we are passing on him because we have Myles Rice and Ryan Bowman on the roster.
Wasn't Banks supposed to be ILB?
That is where I'm confused. In Roof's write up today she said they were always recruiting Banks to play outside.
This screams that there was an experiment run with trying to move Banks to ILB, and it failed miserably. Oklahomo, Alabama, Ohio State, UW.... all of them backed off him as an ILB. They likely went back to thinking he was an edge guy, and with Lolohea coming back and Smalls committed, there was no more space for Banks.
So read the tea leaves.
I think you nailed it. Now the question is, who's the better prospect between Banks and Lohohea? Lohohea is probably more physically mature since he's got a few years on Banks but he also hasn't played football since the 2016 season.
It’s not really about who is better, we’ve had this spot promised to Lolohea for years, Pete isn’t going back on that.
Lolohea will be a mature ass freshman as well. Mentally, and more so physically. You think he isn't hitting weights in SLC right now? The fact he kept weight on / off on a mission is a miracle in and of itself.
What obligation did UW have to Banks? He all had all winter, spring, and summer to commit, he choose not to and his spot got taken. Tell me what UW did wrong and what there obligation was to him?
Agree.
However we've been told previously they would hold a spot for Smalls. So are we to believe if Banks committed a month ago, and then Smalls committed today, it'd be ok, but in the opposite order it's not possible?
That doesn't seem just a bit silly to anyone else...?
One they are different talent levels, Smalls could wait until February, Banks doesn't have that luxury. Banks was initially slow playing UW until late summer after he performed in front of the Alabama coaches and they weren't impressed enough to push for him. Then he scheduled his visit to UW for the USC game but by that time Smalls to UW was almost a done deal. He choose to wait to see if Alabama would take him and he now has to suffer the consequences.
If smalls had waited a few more weeks, and banks wanted to commit this Saturday after the game, would they have taken it?
No, they would have made him wait but UW knew they were in great position with Smalls. I was told in July by a UW source Smalls is going to Washington, he's not going to wait until signing day and it's doubtful he takes any visits.
What obligation did UW have to Banks? He all had all winter, spring, and summer to commit, he choose not to and his spot got taken. Tell me what UW did wrong and what there obligation was to him?
Agree.
However we've been told previously they would hold a spot for Smalls. So are we to believe if Banks committed a month ago, and then Smalls committed today, it'd be ok, but in the opposite order it's not possible?
That doesn't seem just a bit silly to anyone else...?
One they are different talent levels, Smalls could wait until February, Banks doesn't have that luxury. Banks was initially slow playing UW until late summer after he performed in front of the Alabama coaches and they weren't impressed enough to push for him. Then he scheduled his visit to UW for the USC game but by that time Smalls to UW was almost a done deal. He choose to wait to see if Alabama would take him and he now has to suffer the consequences.
It's just an interesting dynamic when dealing with a guy who clearly doesn't yank spots from committed players. (Truly committed ones, not "commits" still going on visits.)
The end effect of accepting A after B but not B after A is that they clearly sometimes have remorse about a commit but will honor it anyway. Very curious how often that happens. And I'm not sure how well that attitude fits in today's cutthroat CFB world but I'll let it play out.
What obligation did UW have to Banks? He all had all winter, spring, and summer to commit, he choose not to and his spot got taken. Tell me what UW did wrong and what there obligation was to him?
Agree.
However we've been told previously they would hold a spot for Smalls. So are we to believe if Banks committed a month ago, and then Smalls committed today, it'd be ok, but in the opposite order it's not possible?
That doesn't seem just a bit silly to anyone else...?
One they are different talent levels, Smalls could wait until February, Banks doesn't have that luxury. Banks was initially slow playing UW until late summer after he performed in front of the Alabama coaches and they weren't impressed enough to push for him. Then he scheduled his visit to UW for the USC game but by that time Smalls to UW was almost a done deal. He choose to wait to see if Alabama would take him and he now has to suffer the consequences.
If smalls had waited a few more weeks, and banks wanted to commit this Saturday after the game, would they have taken it?
No, they would have made him wait but UW knew they were in great position with Smalls. I was told in July by a UW source Smalls is going to Washington, he's not going to wait until signing day and it's doubtful he takes any visits.
Thanks, interesting they knew for this long, would put a bit of ease on my mind if he didn't take any officials/any more unofficials
I'm with sonics. Now that it's come out we didn't want him at ILB it makes total sense and we never owed Jordan anything.
With that said something better happen at ILB cause our class there is not good enough right now
We took 4 ILB last year, and have Fowler and Ulufoshio as walk-ons. We have no Sophomores or Juniors on the roster. Save the spots for next year which is loaded.
What obligation did UW have to Banks? He all had all winter, spring, and summer to commit, he choose not to and his spot got taken. Tell me what UW did wrong and what there obligation was to him?
Agree.
However we've been told previously they would hold a spot for Smalls. So are we to believe if Banks committed a month ago, and then Smalls committed today, it'd be ok, but in the opposite order it's not possible?
That doesn't seem just a bit silly to anyone else...?
That is a good question, if Smalls would be on the outs if Banks got across the line first.
No way, Smalls was a take either way and would’ve pushed out a DB or WR we’ll still likely take.
I don't understand his view point so can someone help me out, what am I missing? Where did we do Banks wrong?
I think the implication is that since this visit has been set up for so long that we would atleast save a spot through this weekend. Obviously we don't know if the coaches pushed him to commit earlier, but we usually set guys up to commit on/right after the visit.
I enjoy TBSing. Not to the depths that Coker/DDY/LMC enjoy it, but I like to follow who UW is after, who UW gets, and generally enjoy seeing who will be coming into the program that I love. I don't really break down film or pretend to know what to look for. I don't pretend to be able to say who is good and who isn't, but I do like to watch the HUDL of kids who have committed and be excited when they look good.
I just enjoy following what UW is going after and enjoy seeing talented kids ball out and hope they come to UW. I even enjoy poasting funny gifs and memes when kids choose not to come to UW because we can't have nice things, or doing the same when a freak like Murao or McMillen does come to UW because we are finally BACK!
I also understand the PurpleJ/Mike Damone/et al stance of who cares until they are playing for the university. Tons of kids that look like studs in high school end up doing fuck all for the university. Kids that look mediocre and you're not sure what the coaches see in them end up developing times infinity and are all conference players that go pro. So why invest in TBSing when it's a fucking crap shoot. I get it.
What I don't enjoy and don't get is the complete fucking meltdowns and Twatter tirades when a kid chooses not to come to UW, or rather, as in this case, the UW coaches decide to move on. I get it, you're upset. We wanted the kid too. We want all talented kids, but it's a fucking horrible look. And if you think everything matters and optics from the program and from fans matter, then you'd realize how bad your tirades and meltdowns make the fans look.
It continues to be completely glossed over that the reason Banks lost his spot is because someone else committed. I'm waiting to see who that player is before I proceed to meltdown. It's also glossed over that multiple sources have said Banks has struggled this year and all the heavy hitters are backing off. Maybe it's a huge fucking mistake, maybe it's not. Recruiting is a fucking crapshoot. I'm all for getting a player as talented as Banks and figuring it out once he's on campus. If he can't develop, then he'll ride the bench.
The coaches moved on from Banks. I think it sucks. I wanted him to be a Husky and I thought he would be after this weekend. But to meltdown and ban yourself and shit all over current UW recruits on twitter when you preach positivity is asinine. As much as I enjoy TBSing and staying up to date with the talent coming into UW, I'm willing to LIPO in most situations.
Because Amandre Williams was supposed to be amazing and Dick Newton was supposed to be complete garbage.
I attended the recruiting banquet tonight. Fun to geek out a little.
Anyway, Malloe was the funniest coach on stage (Adams is a dud). He told some humorous stories and his comments about the interior DL caused laughs. Definitely can see why he is a good recruiter.
However, his pitch is completely tailored for island kids. He basically said his entire reason for being at Washington is because he sees so many similarities between Polynesian culture and the culture established by Pete. It was heartfelt, but made me wonder what kids from other backgrounds would think.
I say we should try and take Banks too. If LB recruiting would have been done right the past 6 years. We could have had Merlin Roberts and Evan Weaver on the roster. Now we have a year where we have to try and piece together a band aid at LB.
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The end effect of accepting A after B but not B after A is that they clearly sometimes have remorse about a commit but will honor it anyway. Very curious how often that happens. And I'm not sure how well that attitude fits in today's cutthroat CFB world but I'll let it play out.
Thanks for the answer.
Cheers--
With that said something better happen at ILB cause our class there is not good enough right now
Good point.
Bump for LIPO for just ONE FUCKING DAY.
Sounds kinda racist
Lots of twisting on this one
Learned a tough lesson and locking down a spot at a solid program now. I wonder if anyone is his top 5 will circle back around on him later on.