Man this threat of violence to deter violence is some real knuckle dragging shit. Fece slingers thinking that this is a viable long term solution to creating a prosperous society. Totally missing the fact that people are very dynamic, influenced by how they live their lives and the environment they live in, playing into how they behave.
Creep, if you ever have kids, it will be your responsibility to keep them safe. When you transfer that responsibility to another custodian (School, Neighbor, Meth Chef/ Safe heroin injection class etc.,) only you must be comfortable with the situation.
It's almost like you didn't read my posts, or did but can't think of a cogent response. Almost.
Again, my kids are in college. They're protected by the deep state. You and turd can figure this out. No longer my monkey or circus.
Every irony meter everywhere Kewg, if you actually had any reading comprehension skills at all, you'd realize that both you and SalemDufus are arguing in earnest against a position I never took and against your own strawman you can't stop jerking off to.
Let me be abundantly clear for your remedial WSU asses:
1. I propose that authorized, capable and arms-trained teachers, such as former police, ex-military, or demonstrated & qualified in response training situations be given the option of having arms available to them at school to protect themselves and mostly others in the event of an active shooter situation.
2. You and your Salem-resident butt-buddy have now demonstrated at length over the last several pages with your "we shouldn't arm fragile 22 year old girls with guns" bullshit, that you are both remedial as fuck, lack reading comprehension skills, and can't stop jerking each other off over shit I never wrote. Go back and actually read my posts - assuming you can.
3. CC and Salem are just fucking dumb. As dumb as that bitch who called the cops about a "Confederate Flag" in her neighborhood that was actually the Norwegian Flag. That is exactly what you two fucks are doing in this thread, over and over.
So a trained cop is too scared to fight back but we expect teachers to be able to stop a mass shooter?
You have one job in a school shooting scenario. Officers are to bypass all the wounded, dying, screaming kids and move as quickly as possible to locate and shoot the bad guy. It's that simple.
This is what happens when you lower standards. These people need to be weeded out during training but that's not happening. It's not happening because they simply need the bodies. So few of todays younger people can pass a police background check or psych test as well as the polygraph. Most departments are understaffed. Corners are being cut.
This is really fucking cute until someone has a semi-auto long rifle with high capacity magazines and you have a 9mm with a 4" barrel.
That $50k a year (I'm being generous) isn't enough to send me or anyone with a brain into that scenario with no backup.
The guy isn't a pussy or a coward. He didn't want to die. 99% of pussies that talk hard do the same thing when shit goes down. A title and a small salary doesn't make you Die Hard.
So why protect them at all is your answer? The FBI didn't protect those kids and at least 4 local law enforcement stood by watching and listening.
Armed guards fall lower on the scale. That's what many proffer.
The weapon is fairly inconsequential. A 4" 9mm will certainly get the job done. Just engaging the bad guy changes the entire dynamic of the situation. These people choose schools so they don't face danger themselves. After all it's a gun free zone. They have given up after being confronted in the past. Getting shot at might be even more convincing.
Sure beats hiding behind some desks and books hoping not to be the next batch offed at the bad guys leisure.
You somehow equate salary to bravery. Our soldiers fight for less than that and the responding deputies probably made less than that. It has nothing to do with money and everything to do with saving lives. Everyday ordinary people often to unbelievable things when in danger and display phenomenal courage such situations.
Telling about you your thoughts are.....
In the case of the officers you have sworn to do these very things. To run toward the gunfire. To help those in danger. It's a dangerous fucking job and they should damn well know that when they sign up. I would rather die trying than to have to live the rest of my life with hat kind of shame.
We protect our President.....with guns. We protect our Congress.... with guns. We protect our athletes.... with guns. We protect our Governors... with guns. We protect our Celebrities....with guns. We protect the elites and THEIR children......with guns. We protect our Banks....... with guns. We protect our Courts...... with guns. We protect our airports....with guns. We protect our hospitals..with guns. We protect OUR children.... with a sign.
"This is a gun free zone"
So what happens when people that want to hurt start using more covert means?
Solving hypotheticals and letting the slaughter continue is genius logic.
Address the known threat and worry about the rest later.
We protect our President.....with guns. We protect our Congress.... with guns. We protect our athletes.... with guns. We protect our Governors... with guns. We protect our Celebrities....with guns. We protect the elites and THEIR children......with guns. We protect our Banks....... with guns. We protect our Courts...... with guns. We protect our airports....with guns. We protect our hospitals..with guns. We protect OUR children.... with a sign.
"This is a gun free zone"
So what happens when people that want to hurt start using more covert means?
Solving hypotheticals and letting the slaughter continue is genius logic.
This is the logic of the new Authoritarian Left. Run, tell mommy, and the bad guy will be in BIG trouble!
About as far as their minds can venture before they're triggered into pants-shitting.
We protect our President.....with guns. We protect our Congress.... with guns. We protect our athletes.... with guns. We protect our Governors... with guns. We protect our Celebrities....with guns. We protect the elites and THEIR children......with guns. We protect our Banks....... with guns. We protect our Courts...... with guns. We protect our airports....with guns. We protect our hospitals..with guns. We protect OUR children.... with a sign.
"This is a gun free zone"
So what happens when people that want to hurt start using more covert means?
Solving hypotheticals and letting the slaughter continue is genius logic.
Address the known threat and worry about the rest later.
Chasing symptoms instead of addressing the ultimate cause? Seems dumb.
We protect our President.....with guns. We protect our Congress.... with guns. We protect our athletes.... with guns. We protect our Governors... with guns. We protect our Celebrities....with guns. We protect the elites and THEIR children......with guns. We protect our Banks....... with guns. We protect our Courts...... with guns. We protect our airports....with guns. We protect our hospitals..with guns. We protect OUR children.... with a sign.
"This is a gun free zone"
So what happens when people that want to hurt start using more covert means?
Solving hypotheticals and letting the slaughter continue is genius logic.
Address the known threat and worry about the rest later.
Chasing symptoms instead of addressing the ultimate cause? Seems dumb.
Or maybe we can address both? Ever think of that? Obviously not.
We protect our President.....with guns. We protect our Congress.... with guns. We protect our athletes.... with guns. We protect our Governors... with guns. We protect our Celebrities....with guns. We protect the elites and THEIR children......with guns. We protect our Banks....... with guns. We protect our Courts...... with guns. We protect our airports....with guns. We protect our hospitals..with guns. We protect OUR children.... with a sign.
"This is a gun free zone"
So what happens when people that want to hurt start using more covert means?
Solving hypotheticals and letting the slaughter continue is genius logic.
Address the known threat and worry about the rest later.
Chasing symptoms instead of addressing the ultimate cause? Seems dumb.
Da fuq are you talking about?
Guns come into schools. Shoot kids. Kids die.
Solve for keeping guns out of schools. Period. Metals detectors, armed guards at entrances. Anal cavity searches. Who the fuck cares? Just keep the guns outside the building.
Perseverating over background checks and constitutional rights and liberty and shit....fuck that. KEEP THE GODDAMNED GUNS OUT OF THE SCHOOLS.
All the intellectual masturbation is secondary noise.
We protect our President.....with guns. We protect our Congress.... with guns. We protect our athletes.... with guns. We protect our Governors... with guns. We protect our Celebrities....with guns. We protect the elites and THEIR children......with guns. We protect our Banks....... with guns. We protect our Courts...... with guns. We protect our airports....with guns. We protect our hospitals..with guns. We protect OUR children.... with a sign.
"This is a gun free zone"
So what happens when people that want to hurt start using more covert means?
Solving hypotheticals and letting the slaughter continue is genius logic.
Address the known threat and worry about the rest later.
Chasing symptoms instead of addressing the ultimate cause? Seems dumb.
Da fuq are you talking about?
Guns come into schools. Shoot kids. Kids die.
Solve for keeping guns out of schools. Period. Metals detectors, armed guards at entrances. Anal cavity searches. Who the fuck cares? Just keep the guns outside the building.
Perseverating over background checks and constitutional rights and liberty and shit....fuck that. KEEP THE GODDAMNED GUNS OUT OF THE SCHOOLS.
All the intellectual masturbation is secondary noise.
The root or closer to the root is focusing our discernment on why people want to harm other people. The way that they executed their desire to hurt other people is closer to a symptom. Creating a more restrictive environment or adding more tools for harm to the mix just creates a more tense environment in the long run.
We protect our President.....with guns. We protect our Congress.... with guns. We protect our athletes.... with guns. We protect our Governors... with guns. We protect our Celebrities....with guns. We protect the elites and THEIR children......with guns. We protect our Banks....... with guns. We protect our Courts...... with guns. We protect our airports....with guns. We protect our hospitals..with guns. We protect OUR children.... with a sign.
"This is a gun free zone"
So what happens when people that want to hurt start using more covert means?
Solving hypotheticals and letting the slaughter continue is genius logic.
Address the known threat and worry about the rest later.
Chasing symptoms instead of addressing the ultimate cause? Seems dumb.
Da fuq are you talking about?
Guns come into schools. Shoot kids. Kids die.
Solve for keeping guns out of schools. Period. Metals detectors, armed guards at entrances. Anal cavity searches. Who the fuck cares? Just keep the guns outside the building.
Perseverating over background checks and constitutional rights and liberty and shit....fuck that. KEEP THE GODDAMNED GUNS OUT OF THE SCHOOLS.
All the intellectual masturbation is secondary noise.
The root or closer to the root is focusing our discernment on why people want to harm other people. The way that they executed their desire to hurt other people is closer to a symptom. Creating a more restrictive environment or adding more tools for harm to the mix just creates a more tense environment in the long run.
Thanks, Dr. Freud. I'm sure that will calm the next little fuck that walks into a school with a gun that he stole from daddy's gun safe.
With that line of thinking, let's just disband the TSA and screening devices at all airports.
Remind me again the last plane that got rammed into a building? That problem got solved right quick.
We protect our President.....with guns. We protect our Congress.... with guns. We protect our athletes.... with guns. We protect our Governors... with guns. We protect our Celebrities....with guns. We protect the elites and THEIR children......with guns. We protect our Banks....... with guns. We protect our Courts...... with guns. We protect our airports....with guns. We protect our hospitals..with guns. We protect OUR children.... with a sign.
"This is a gun free zone"
So what happens when people that want to hurt start using more covert means?
Solving hypotheticals and letting the slaughter continue is genius logic.
Address the known threat and worry about the rest later.
Chasing symptoms instead of addressing the ultimate cause? Seems dumb.
Da fuq are you talking about?
Guns come into schools. Shoot kids. Kids die.
Solve for keeping guns out of schools. Period. Metals detectors, armed guards at entrances. Anal cavity searches. Who the fuck cares? Just keep the guns outside the building.
Perseverating over background checks and constitutional rights and liberty and shit....fuck that. KEEP THE GODDAMNED GUNS OUT OF THE SCHOOLS.
All the intellectual masturbation is secondary noise.
The root or closer to the root is focusing our discernment on why people want to harm other people. The way that they executed their desire to hurt other people is closer to a symptom. Creating a more restrictive environment or adding more tools for harm to the mix just creates a more tense environment in the long run.
Thanks, Dr. Freud. I'm sure that will calm the next little fuck that walks into a school with a gun that he stole from daddy's gun safe.
With that line of thinking, let's just disband the TSA and screening devices at all airports.
Remind me again the last plane that got rammed into a building? That problem got solved right quick.
Like I said before this line of thinking is lazy and really reflective of how you choose to spend your time.
We protect our President.....with guns. We protect our Congress.... with guns. We protect our athletes.... with guns. We protect our Governors... with guns. We protect our Celebrities....with guns. We protect the elites and THEIR children......with guns. We protect our Banks....... with guns. We protect our Courts...... with guns. We protect our airports....with guns. We protect our hospitals..with guns. We protect OUR children.... with a sign.
"This is a gun free zone"
So what happens when people that want to hurt start using more covert means?
Solving hypotheticals and letting the slaughter continue is genius logic.
Address the known threat and worry about the rest later.
Chasing symptoms instead of addressing the ultimate cause? Seems dumb.
Da fuq are you talking about?
Guns come into schools. Shoot kids. Kids die.
Solve for keeping guns out of schools. Period. Metals detectors, armed guards at entrances. Anal cavity searches. Who the fuck cares? Just keep the guns outside the building.
Perseverating over background checks and constitutional rights and liberty and shit....fuck that. KEEP THE GODDAMNED GUNS OUT OF THE SCHOOLS.
All the intellectual masturbation is secondary noise.
The root or closer to the root is focusing our discernment on why people want to harm other people. The way that they executed their desire to hurt other people is closer to a symptom. Creating a more restrictive environment or adding more tools for harm to the mix just creates a more tense environment in the long run.
Thanks, Dr. Freud. I'm sure that will calm the next little fuck that walks into a school with a gun that he stole from daddy's gun safe.
With that line of thinking, let's just disband the TSA and screening devices at all airports.
Remind me again the last plane that got rammed into a building? That problem got solved right quick.
Yes it did. They armed pilots and added more air marshals. No hijackings since then.
We protect our President.....with guns. We protect our Congress.... with guns. We protect our athletes.... with guns. We protect our Governors... with guns. We protect our Celebrities....with guns. We protect the elites and THEIR children......with guns. We protect our Banks....... with guns. We protect our Courts...... with guns. We protect our airports....with guns. We protect our hospitals..with guns. We protect OUR children.... with a sign.
"This is a gun free zone"
So what happens when people that want to hurt start using more covert means?
Solving hypotheticals and letting the slaughter continue is genius logic.
Address the known threat and worry about the rest later.
Chasing symptoms instead of addressing the ultimate cause? Seems dumb.
Da fuq are you talking about?
Guns come into schools. Shoot kids. Kids die.
Solve for keeping guns out of schools. Period. Metals detectors, armed guards at entrances. Anal cavity searches. Who the fuck cares? Just keep the guns outside the building.
Perseverating over background checks and constitutional rights and liberty and shit....fuck that. KEEP THE GODDAMNED GUNS OUT OF THE SCHOOLS.
All the intellectual masturbation is secondary noise.
The root or closer to the root is focusing our discernment on why people want to harm other people. The way that they executed their desire to hurt other people is closer to a symptom. Creating a more restrictive environment or adding more tools for harm to the mix just creates a more tense environment in the long run.
Thanks, Dr. Freud. I'm sure that will calm the next little fuck that walks into a school with a gun that he stole from daddy's gun safe.
With that line of thinking, let's just disband the TSA and screening devices at all airports.
Remind me again the last plane that got rammed into a building? That problem got solved right quick.
Yes it did. They armed pilots and added more air marshals. No hijackings since then.
That was really a lazy thinking approach to solving the problem.
We protect our President.....with guns. We protect our Congress.... with guns. We protect our athletes.... with guns. We protect our Governors... with guns. We protect our Celebrities....with guns. We protect the elites and THEIR children......with guns. We protect our Banks....... with guns. We protect our Courts...... with guns. We protect our airports....with guns. We protect our hospitals..with guns. We protect OUR children.... with a sign.
"This is a gun free zone"
So what happens when people that want to hurt start using more covert means?
Solving hypotheticals and letting the slaughter continue is genius logic.
Address the known threat and worry about the rest later.
Chasing symptoms instead of addressing the ultimate cause? Seems dumb.
Da fuq are you talking about?
Guns come into schools. Shoot kids. Kids die.
Solve for keeping guns out of schools. Period. Metals detectors, armed guards at entrances. Anal cavity searches. Who the fuck cares? Just keep the guns outside the building.
Perseverating over background checks and constitutional rights and liberty and shit....fuck that. KEEP THE GODDAMNED GUNS OUT OF THE SCHOOLS.
All the intellectual masturbation is secondary noise.
The root or closer to the root is focusing our discernment on why people want to harm other people. The way that they executed their desire to hurt other people is closer to a symptom. Creating a more restrictive environment or adding more tools for harm to the mix just creates a more tense environment in the long run.
So a trained cop is too scared to fight back but we expect teachers to be able to stop a mass shooter?
You have one job in a school shooting scenario. Officers are to bypass all the wounded, dying, screaming kids and move as quickly as possible to locate and shoot the bad guy. It's that simple.
This is what happens when you lower standards. These people need to be weeded out during training but that's not happening. It's not happening because they simply need the bodies. So few of todays younger people can pass a police background check or psych test as well as the polygraph. Most departments are understaffed. Corners are being cut.
This is really fucking cute until someone has a semi-auto long rifle with high capacity magazines and you have a 9mm with a 4" barrel.
That $50k a year (I'm being generous) isn't enough to send me or anyone with a brain into that scenario with no backup.
The guy isn't a pussy or a coward. He didn't want to die. 99% of pussies that talk hard do the same thing when shit goes down. A title and a small salary doesn't make you Die Hard.
So why protect them at all is your answer? The FBI didn't protect those kids and at least 4 local law enforcement stood by watching and listening.
Armed guards fall lower on the scale. That's what many proffer.
The weapon is fairly inconsequential. A 4" 9mm will certainly get the job done. Just engaging the bad guy changes the entire dynamic of the situation. These people choose schools so they don't face danger themselves. After all it's a gun free zone. They have given up after being confronted in the past. Getting shot at might be even more convincing.
Sure beats hiding behind some desks and books hoping not to be the next batch offed at the bad guys leisure.
You somehow equate salary to bravery. Our soldiers fight for less than that and the responding deputies probably made less than that. It has nothing to do with money and everything to do with saving lives. Everyday ordinary people often to unbelievable things when in danger and display phenomenal courage such situations.
Telling about you your thoughts are.....
In the case of the officers you have sworn to do these very things. To run toward the gunfire. To help those in danger. It's a dangerous fucking job and they should damn well know that when they sign up. I would rather die trying than to have to live the rest of my life with hat kind of shame.
So a trained cop is too scared to fight back but we expect teachers to be able to stop a mass shooter?
You have one job in a school shooting scenario. Officers are to bypass all the wounded, dying, screaming kids and move as quickly as possible to locate and shoot the bad guy. It's that simple.
This is what happens when you lower standards. These people need to be weeded out during training but that's not happening. It's not happening because they simply need the bodies. So few of todays younger people can pass a police background check or psych test as well as the polygraph. Most departments are understaffed. Corners are being cut.
This is really fucking cute until someone has a semi-auto long rifle with high capacity magazines and you have a 9mm with a 4" barrel.
That $50k a year (I'm being generous) isn't enough to send me or anyone with a brain into that scenario with no backup.
The guy isn't a pussy or a coward. He didn't want to die. 99% of pussies that talk hard do the same thing when shit goes down. A title and a small salary doesn't make you Die Hard.
So why protect them at all is your answer? The FBI didn't protect those kids and at least 4 local law enforcement stood by watching and listening.
Armed guards fall lower on the scale. That's what many proffer.
The weapon is fairly inconsequential. A 4" 9mm will certainly get the job done. Just engaging the bad guy changes the entire dynamic of the situation. These people choose schools so they don't face danger themselves. After all it's a gun free zone. They have given up after being confronted in the past. Getting shot at might be even more convincing.
Sure beats hiding behind some desks and books hoping not to be the next batch offed at the bad guys leisure.
You somehow equate salary to bravery. Our soldiers fight for less than that and the responding deputies probably made less than that. It has nothing to do with money and everything to do with saving lives. Everyday ordinary people often to unbelievable things when in danger and display phenomenal courage such situations.
Telling about you your thoughts are.....
In the case of the officers you have sworn to do these very things. To run toward the gunfire. To help those in danger. It's a dangerous fucking job and they should damn well know that when they sign up. I would rather die trying than to have to live the rest of my life with hat kind of shame.
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Kewg, if you actually had any reading comprehension skills at all, you'd realize that both you and SalemDufus are arguing in earnest against a position I never took and against your own strawman you can't stop jerking off to.
Let me be abundantly clear for your remedial WSU asses:
1. I propose that authorized, capable and arms-trained teachers, such as former police, ex-military, or demonstrated & qualified in response training situations be given the option of having arms available to them at school to protect themselves and mostly others in the event of an active shooter situation.
2. You and your Salem-resident butt-buddy have now demonstrated at length over the last several pages with your "we shouldn't arm fragile 22 year old girls with guns" bullshit, that you are both remedial as fuck, lack reading comprehension skills, and can't stop jerking each other off over shit I never wrote. Go back and actually read my posts - assuming you can.
3. CC and Salem are just fucking dumb. As dumb as that bitch who called the cops about a "Confederate Flag" in her neighborhood that was actually the Norwegian Flag. That is exactly what you two fucks are doing in this thread, over and over.
Armed guards fall lower on the scale. That's what many proffer.
The weapon is fairly inconsequential. A 4" 9mm will certainly get the job done. Just engaging the bad guy changes the entire dynamic of the situation. These people choose schools so they don't face danger themselves. After all it's a gun free zone. They have given up after being confronted in the past. Getting shot at might be even more convincing.
Sure beats hiding behind some desks and books hoping not to be the next batch offed at the bad guys leisure.
You somehow equate salary to bravery. Our soldiers fight for less than that and the responding deputies probably made less than that. It has nothing to do with money and everything to do with saving lives. Everyday ordinary people often to unbelievable things when in danger and display phenomenal courage such situations.
Telling about you your thoughts are.....
In the case of the officers you have sworn to do these very things. To run toward the gunfire. To help those in danger. It's a dangerous fucking job and they should damn well know that when they sign up. I would rather die trying than to have to live the rest of my life with hat kind of shame.
Address the known threat and worry about the rest later.
About as far as their minds can venture before they're triggered into pants-shitting.
How's that Dunce Cap fitting?
Guns come into schools. Shoot kids. Kids die.
Solve for keeping guns out of schools. Period. Metals detectors, armed guards at entrances. Anal cavity searches. Who the fuck cares? Just keep the guns outside the building.
Perseverating over background checks and constitutional rights and liberty and shit....fuck that. KEEP THE GODDAMNED GUNS OUT OF THE SCHOOLS.
All the intellectual masturbation is secondary noise.
With that line of thinking, let's just disband the TSA and screening devices at all airports.
Remind me again the last plane that got rammed into a building? That problem got solved right quick.
Fuck those lazy thinkers.
Not saying I'm for it dont twist
You're one of those "Free Hugs" people. Got it.
Thanks, Weirdo! Now fuck off and DIAFF.
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