Billy Graham sells the couch
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Jesus doesn't care. But why else would they put milquetoasty Mr. "Gay Conversion-therapy-works and we should make mothers hold funerals for their aborted fetuses" on this ticket if not to counter a pussy-grabbing serial philandering 5-kids-by-3-wives guy who couldn't quote a Bible verse to save his life?RaceBannon said:
JesusBearsWiin said:
Oh, and Race, honey, you know as well as I do that evangelicals voted for Trump because their news feed convinced them that Hillary enjoyed performing partial-birth abortions herself every day between afternoon tea and supper, and that the white-haired cretin on the ticket would advance their agenda with the ideologically malleable 30-sec.-attention-span-In-Chief.RaceBannon said:
Of course it is. Which is why I find it amusing that anyone that doesn't agree with you is accused of not doing so.BearsWiin said:
My in-laws are pretty devout Christians, but they separate their flying spaghetti monsterism from their politics. It's not that hard to have evidence and reason inform your politics, instead of superstition and tradition.RaceBannon said:Christians can vote and be politically active even if @BearsWiin disagrees.
What a great country
That's why evangelicals vote Trump. They aren't voting for the local preacher and are smart enough to know that
Wife has a young-earther uncle who is a single issue voter. Proclaimed several times on social media that Trump is a horrible human being and not fit for office, but he'd vote for him because Hillary is a babykiller. -
Sounds like you should have picked better genes.BearsWiin said:
Jesus doesn't care. But why else would they put milquetoasty Mr. "Gay Conversion-therapy-works and we should make mothers hold funerals for their aborted fetuses" on this ticket if not to counter a pussy-grabbing serial philandering 5-kids-by-3-wives guy who couldn't quote a Bible verse to save his life?RaceBannon said:
JesusBearsWiin said:
Oh, and Race, honey, you know as well as I do that evangelicals voted for Trump because their news feed convinced them that Hillary enjoyed performing partial-birth abortions herself every day between afternoon tea and supper, and that the white-haired cretin on the ticket would advance their agenda with the ideologically malleable 30-sec.-attention-span-In-Chief.RaceBannon said:
Of course it is. Which is why I find it amusing that anyone that doesn't agree with you is accused of not doing so.BearsWiin said:
My in-laws are pretty devout Christians, but they separate their flying spaghetti monsterism from their politics. It's not that hard to have evidence and reason inform your politics, instead of superstition and tradition.RaceBannon said:Christians can vote and be politically active even if @BearsWiin disagrees.
What a great country
That's why evangelicals vote Trump. They aren't voting for the local preacher and are smart enough to know that
Wife has a young-earther uncle who is a single issue voter. Proclaimed several times on social media that Trump is a horrible human being and not fit for office, but he'd vote for him because Hillary is a babykiller.
Just what it sounds like. Don't twist. -
JesusBearsWiin said:
Jesus doesn't care. But why else would they put milquetoasty Mr. "Gay Conversion-therapy-works and we should make mothers hold funerals for their aborted fetuses" on this ticket if not to counter a pussy-grabbing serial philandering 5-kids-by-3-wives guy who couldn't quote a Bible verse to save his life?RaceBannon said:
JesusBearsWiin said:
Oh, and Race, honey, you know as well as I do that evangelicals voted for Trump because their news feed convinced them that Hillary enjoyed performing partial-birth abortions herself every day between afternoon tea and supper, and that the white-haired cretin on the ticket would advance their agenda with the ideologically malleable 30-sec.-attention-span-In-Chief.RaceBannon said:
Of course it is. Which is why I find it amusing that anyone that doesn't agree with you is accused of not doing so.BearsWiin said:
My in-laws are pretty devout Christians, but they separate their flying spaghetti monsterism from their politics. It's not that hard to have evidence and reason inform your politics, instead of superstition and tradition.RaceBannon said:Christians can vote and be politically active even if @BearsWiin disagrees.
What a great country
That's why evangelicals vote Trump. They aren't voting for the local preacher and are smart enough to know that
Wife has a young-earther uncle who is a single issue voter. Proclaimed several times on social media that Trump is a horrible human being and not fit for office, but he'd vote for him because Hillary is a babykiller. -
Is she a Saxon?YellowSnow said:
Look Mrs. Snow is from Salem and one of the greatest sports ballers that town ever produced. Out of respect for the Salemites, I have to abstain from your Crusade against Salem Kewg and let you Kewgs sort it out amongst yourselves.creepycoug said:
Get back to poasting shit that's not obvious.YellowSnow said:
So we'll put @salemcoog in thesalemcoog said:
Chinteresting... so natural selection. the tribal collective and opposable thumbs. However your ancestors worshipped something and/or somebody besides the bearded Zeus in the Sky throughout their history. All of our ancestors did. For some it did bring peace. For others bondage as it was twisted by man himself.BearsWiin said:
My DNA needs to survive, thrive, and reproduce. Cooperation conveys a huge survival advantage, so my self-interested impulses need to be channeled within the larger cooperative context; morality arises from our need to cooperate. "Needing" something bigger than myself is merely a shell program on top of the basic instructions, in order to help me survive in the cooperative social environment and propel my DNA into the future. To my mind, it's waay cooler to understnad that my DNA is the result of 3.5 billion years of trial and error in a changing and usually hostile natural environment, rather than that there's some omnipotent bearded guy in the sky who gives a shit about how many times I've had filthy thoughts about Dana Delany.salemcoog said:
But you need something bigger than yourself... No???BearsWiin said:
We're evolved to be cooperative; it conveys a huge survival advantage, and we do it so much that we don't even think about it most of the time. We don't need Christ in our hearts to act nicely to each other.creepycoug said:
Was Billy a charlatan?BearsWiin said:
We all do. It's what we do in that 1%, when the decisions are hard, when doing the right thing might not be the easy thing, that separate decent people from lousy assholes.salemcoog said:
Why does someone who lived their life genuinely righteous 99% of the time shame you?BearsWiin said:
It's cute that you think this.YellowSnow said:I respected that Graham, at least, tried to maintain an a-political stance as opposed to being completely in the bag for the right- e.g., like Jerry Falwell.
The man amassed wealth and influence acting as a purveyor of spiritual snake oil, and he laid the groundwork for others, including his own spawn, to use the religious right as a political force for shitty policy over the last four decades.
I'm crushed.
Btw, Salem isn't even close to 99%. Frankly, none of us are. I'll bet Billy wasn't either.
Look I don't buy the bearded guy story myself. But I feel the creator of the Universe is a thing and the peace that it brings to the created comes in many forms. And to deny that is pretty short sighted imo. While your DNA is the result of evolution, It was indeed created by something.Jeffersonian Deismretard camp. I can respek that. -
Lots of people are going to hell in this thread. See you there.
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"If you went for a walk in the woods, but then decided to wander off the path, and found yourself surrounded by a thicket of thorns and poison ivy, who would you blame? Would you blame the person who built the path? No, of course not. Instead you’d blame yourself if you were honest, because you alone were responsible for wandering from the path.
In a far deeper way, this is what happens when we decide to leave God out of our lives. For a time, it may seem like wandering away from Him doesn’t make any difference; it may even seem easier and freer. But eventually it catches up with us—just as wandering off that path and into the thicket caught up with you." —Billy Graham #BG100 -
Don James was a Christian and a bunch of you wanted him fired, yall are going to hell
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St Peter LoneStarDawg has Spoken
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To the Throbber's way of thinking, it takes way more faith to definitely dismiss the existence of a higher power than to contemplate the possible existence thereof.
Science and shit is pretty persuasive - but even those fuckers thought the world was flat and the sun revolved around the Earth's position as the center of the universe for centuries....
The Throbber actually believes there's a bit of science and a bit of spirituality that got us to this fucked up place in history. And generally give zero fucks to plant the flag in either camp in order to change someone else's mind.
So, in other words, FYFMFE.
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No it doesn't.PurpleThrobber said:To the Throbber's way of thinking, it takes way more faith to definitely dismiss the existence of a higher power than to contemplate the possible existence thereof.
Science and shit is pretty persuasive - but even those fuckers thought the world was flat and the sun revolved around the Earth's position as the center of the universe for centuries....
The Throbber actually believes there's a bit of science and a bit of spirituality that got us to this fucked up place in history. And generally give zero fucks to plant the flag in either camp in order to change someone else's mind.
So, in other words, FYFMFE. -
I denied Jake Lockner three times before the booster showeddoogie said:St Peter LoneStarDawg has Spoken
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Random chance seems so random
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Why do you hate Descartes?BearsWiin said:And I don't know that we have a soul. We are meat sacks, supporting a marginally self-aware nerve bundle that is tasked with propelling our DNA into the future. That marginally self-aware nerve bundle is packed with basic instructions and the potential for shell programs to be laid on top, largely determined by the DNA that it inherited from its parents, but soul? Something that exists outside the physical realm? I don't see it. Do people with dementia or Alzheimers have an eternal soul that remains intact while their brains and cognitive abilities erode? Do schizophrenics have multiple souls? What about elephants and whales, whose brains are larger and possibly more complex than ours, but they don't have opposable thumbs and a language that we recognize? It would seem to me that if you believe in the concept of a soul, you pretty much have to believe in a God of some sort.
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I just realized something: I already knew you were stupid. So never mind.doogie said:"If you went for a walk in the woods, but then decided to wander off the path, and found yourself surrounded by a thicket of thorns and poison ivy, who would you blame? Would you blame the person who built the path? No, of course not. Instead you’d blame yourself if you were honest, because you alone were responsible for wandering from the path.
In a far deeper way, this is what happens when we decide to leave God out of our lives. For a time, it may seem like wandering away from Him doesn’t make any difference; it may even seem easier and freer. But eventually it catches up with us—just as wandering off that path and into the thicket caught up with you." —Billy Graham #BG100 -
No "they" didn't.PurpleThrobber said:To the Throbber's way of thinking, it takes way more faith to definitely dismiss the existence of a higher power than to contemplate the possible existence thereof.
Science and shit is pretty persuasive - but even those fuckers thought the world was flat and the sun revolved around the Earth's position as the center of the universe for centuries....
The Throbber actually believes there's a bit of science and a bit of spirituality that got us to this fucked up place in history. And generally give zero fucks to plant the flag in either camp in order to change someone else's mind.
So, in other words, FYFMFE.
All men fell into one of two types. The first is the guy who ran scared from thunder because he thought Zeus was pissed. Let's call him "Billy". The second is the guy who cooked up geometry in the sand with a stick. Let's call him "Euclid".
Euclid was a scientist.
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I love science and math. In particular math. If I hadn't been such a fuck up in school I would have been good at it I found out later in life. Lots of math and formulas in construction.
I find comfort in numbers for some reason.
Never had an issue with science and faith.
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Race probably knew Euclid.RaceBannon said:I love science and math. In particular math. If I hadn't been such a fuck up in school I would have been good at it I found out later in life. Lots of math and formulas in construction.
I find comfort in numbers for some reason.
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He was a good guycreepycoug said:
Race probably knew Euclid.RaceBannon said:I love science and math. In particular math. If I hadn't been such a fuck up in school I would have been good at it I found out later in life. Lots of math and formulas in construction.
I find comfort in numbers for some reason.
Never had an issue with science and faith. -
When I was a youngster I wanted to be a structural engineer and build suspension bridges. The I learned maff was involved. Maff is hard so I went in a different direction. Now I am poor and block Creep on the free ways with my shitty, 12 year old SUV.
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Get off my bridge!!!!!!!!!!YellowSnow said:When I was a youngster I wanted to be a structural engineer and build suspension bridges. The I learned maff was involved. Maff is hard so I went in a different direction. Now I am poor and block Creep on the free ways with my shitty, 12 year old SUV.
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Math doesn't lie. If you and math are having a disagreement, then you should stfu and listen to the math.RaceBannon said:I love science and math. In particular math. If I hadn't been such a fuck up in school I would have been good at it I found out later in life. Lots of math and formulas in construction.
I find comfort in numbers for some reason.
Never had an issue with science and faith.
Trust math, not people.
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When I was about 10 walking across this bridge I missed and old gentlemen jumping off on the Marin County side by about 1 min. His sweater and cane were siting right there on the pedestrian walk way. Pretty fucked up.creepycoug said:
Get off my bridge!!!!!!!!!!YellowSnow said:When I was a youngster I wanted to be a structural engineer and build suspension bridges. The I learned maff was involved. Maff is hard so I went in a different direction. Now I am poor and block Creep on the free ways with my shitty, 12 year old SUV.
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You can’t get laid by math.dflea said:
Math doesn't lie. If you and math are having a disagreement, then you should stfu and listen to the math.RaceBannon said:I love science and math. In particular math. If I hadn't been such a fuck up in school I would have been good at it I found out later in life. Lots of math and formulas in construction.
I find comfort in numbers for some reason.
Never had an issue with science and faith.
Trust math, not people.
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Prefer this one:YellowSnow said:
When I was about 10 walking across this bridge I missed and old gentlemen jumping off on the Marin County side by about 1 min. His sweater and cane were siting right there on the pedestrian walk way. Pretty fucked up.creepycoug said:
Get off my bridge!!!!!!!!!!YellowSnow said:When I was a youngster I wanted to be a structural engineer and build suspension bridges. The I learned maff was involved. Maff is hard so I went in a different direction. Now I am poor and block Creep on the free ways with my shitty, 12 year old SUV.
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Duh!Swaye said:
Prefer this one:YellowSnow said:
When I was about 10 walking across this bridge I missed and old gentlemen jumping off on the Marin County side by about 1 min. His sweater and cane were siting right there on the pedestrian walk way. Pretty fucked up.creepycoug said:
Get off my bridge!!!!!!!!!!YellowSnow said:When I was a youngster I wanted to be a structural engineer and build suspension bridges. The I learned maff was involved. Maff is hard so I went in a different direction. Now I am poor and block Creep on the free ways with my shitty, 12 year old SUV.
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Wife runs a structural engineering firm. She had to slog through years of calculus at Cal for her degree. She says she rarely has to use calculus; most of her work is plain old algebra. Whenever she does need to use any calculus she just looks up the formulas and plugs shit in, since she doesn't remember too much about advanced maff that she almost never uses.YellowSnow said:When I was a youngster I wanted to be a structural engineer and build suspension bridges. The I learned maff was involved. Maff is hard so I went in a different direction. Now I am poor and block Creep on the free ways with my shitty, 12 year old SUV.
One of her junior engineers left the firm ten years ago to go to South Africa and build bridges for their 2010 World Cup infrastructure build. Saved her the task of finding a way to get rid of him gently, as he was a well-meaning kid but just wasn't particularly suited to the job. -
Me thinks a lot of the hard maff and other academis in those engineering programs is just a way to weed out the dumb dumbs like myself. Alas, the world needs history major ditch diggers too.BearsWiin said:
Wife runs a structural engineering firm. She had to slog through years of calculus at Cal for her degree. She says she rarely has to use calculus; most of her work is plain old algebra. Whenever she does need to use any calculus she just looks up the formulas and plugs shit in, since she doesn't remember too much about advanced maff that she almost never uses.YellowSnow said:When I was a youngster I wanted to be a structural engineer and build suspension bridges. The I learned maff was involved. Maff is hard so I went in a different direction. Now I am poor and block Creep on the free ways with my shitty, 12 year old SUV.
One of her junior engineers left the firm ten years ago to go to South Africa and build bridges for their 2010 World Cup infrastructure build. Saved her the task of finding a way to get rid of him gently, as he was a well-meaning kid but just wasn't particularly suited to the job. -
Sounds like he was nothing special.BearsWiin said:
Wife runs a structural engineering firm. She had to slog through years of calculus at Cal for her degree. She says she rarely has to use calculus; most of her work is plain old algebra. Whenever she does need to use any calculus she just looks up the formulas and plugs shit in, since she doesn't remember too much about advanced maff that she almost never uses.YellowSnow said:When I was a youngster I wanted to be a structural engineer and build suspension bridges. The I learned maff was involved. Maff is hard so I went in a different direction. Now I am poor and block Creep on the free ways with my shitty, 12 year old SUV.
One of her junior engineers left the firm ten years ago to go to South Africa and build bridges for their 2010 World Cup infrastructure build. Saved her the task of finding a way to get rid of him gently, as he was a well-meaning kid but just wasn't particularly suited to the job. -
Now this I do disagree with. Putting the coffin in the Capital Rotunda doesn't sit right with me at all. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/billy-graham-to-lie-in-honor-in-capitol-rotunda/ar-BBJt9zY?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=HPCDHP
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How many other dudes have had a personal audience with 11 American presidents?YellowSnow said:Now this I do disagree with. Putting the coffin in the Capital Rotunda doesn't sit right with me at all. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/billy-graham-to-lie-in-honor-in-capitol-rotunda/ar-BBJt9zY?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=HPCDHP
Agree or disagree with his message, that's a pretty massive legacy at the presidential level.
