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Buy veggies and chicken at an Asian supermarket. You can still eat for free, but you have to prepare it yourself, and of course clean up afterward.Pitchfork51 said:
Meat and vegetables are expensive compared to Cheerios and hot pockets.doogie said:Our health care system will remain fucked unless and until we stop incentivising poor people lead unhealthy lives.
But yeah. Being fat is probably the main cause of like half the issues. -
Don't Tell me how to live my life fucko.doogie said:
Buy veggies and chicken at an Asian supermarket. You can still eat for free, but you have to prepare it yourself, and of course clean up afterward.Pitchfork51 said:
Meat and vegetables are expensive compared to Cheerios and hot pockets.doogie said:Our health care system will remain fucked unless and until we stop incentivising poor people lead unhealthy lives.
But yeah. Being fat is probably the main cause of like half the issues. -
Yes, and the amount they pay for it in taxes is substantially lower than what we pay here either through premiums, lost wages, or copayments. People generally see their doctors more frequently than we do in the US, which helps with preventive care.PurpleJ said:
All those things are enabled by overregulation by the government. The socialized countries pay through high taxes.BearsWiin said:
And the empirical evidence in the rest of the rich developed world supports my contention, not yours. You want to fuck things up, make a stupid hybrid system for distorted markets, barriers to entry, local monopolies, opacity in pricing, and greedhead insurance and healthcare interests to keep the system feeding their insane profits. The last element is important; there won't be any decent movement on health care in this country until we get campaign finance reform.PurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something. -
I'll be sure to tell him you think so on Monday. He likes a good laugh.RaceBannon said:
I'm a bidnessman too and the Bear's buddy isn't as hot as he thinks he is when it comes to pricePurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something. -
Fuck that.AZDuck said:
The US of A =! Rest of World, TRUE?!?!!!!?!PurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something.
This.
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How about they pay us full cost for our defense of them?BearsWiin said:
Yes, and the amount they pay for it in taxes is substantially lower than what we pay here either through premiums, lost wages, or copayments. People generally see their doctors more frequently than we do in the US, which helps with preventive care.PurpleJ said:
All those things are enabled by overregulation by the government. The socialized countries pay through high taxes.BearsWiin said:
And the empirical evidence in the rest of the rich developed world supports my contention, not yours. You want to fuck things up, make a stupid hybrid system for distorted markets, barriers to entry, local monopolies, opacity in pricing, and greedhead insurance and healthcare interests to keep the system feeding their insane profits. The last element is important; there won't be any decent movement on health care in this country until we get campaign finance reform.PurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something. -
Big belly laughs in the media room?BearsWiin said:
I'll be sure to tell him you think so on Monday. He likes a good laugh.RaceBannon said:
I'm a bidnessman too and the Bear's buddy isn't as hot as he thinks he is when it comes to pricePurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something. -
Don't believe everything you hear on Fox news, buddy.RaceBannon said:
Well as long as your happy we won't worry about all the folks that got fucked there.AZDuck said:
What the fuck do you know about the VA? I'm pretty happy with my care there.RaceBannon said:Human nature is undefeated and that's what you see at the VA. I am sure there are lots of good people there but there is no incentive to be great. It all pays the same. And the VA handles rationing by delaying care until the poor sod is dead. I am convinced uber national care for all would end up the same.
We have the best healthcare. We don't have the best insurance or delivery. We are smart enough to fix that without turning it over to fed employees.
This hybrid shit is what fucked it up in the first place.
Universal coverage would have to have some reason for the drones to give a fuck and make sure you get the right knee fixed when you tear it up skiing.
Its all about you
I was happy with pre Obamacare insurance. So fuck the fuck off -
Bullshit. The crackhead with no teeth I just saw throw her food across the room complaining about the taste while sitting in a private fucking room, disagrees.BearsWiin said:
Yes, and the amount they pay for it in taxes is substantially lower than what we pay here either through premiums, lost wages, or copayments. People generally see their doctors more frequently than we do in the US, which helps with preventive care.PurpleJ said:
All those things are enabled by overregulation by the government. The socialized countries pay through high taxes.BearsWiin said:
And the empirical evidence in the rest of the rich developed world supports my contention, not yours. You want to fuck things up, make a stupid hybrid system for distorted markets, barriers to entry, local monopolies, opacity in pricing, and greedhead insurance and healthcare interests to keep the system feeding their insane profits. The last element is important; there won't be any decent movement on health care in this country until we get campaign finance reform.PurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something. -
Poor form to talk about your Mom that way.doogie said:
Bullshit. The crackhead with no teeth I just saw throw her food across the room complaining about the taste while sitting in a private fucking room, disagrees.BearsWiin said:
Yes, and the amount they pay for it in taxes is substantially lower than what we pay here either through premiums, lost wages, or copayments. People generally see their doctors more frequently than we do in the US, which helps with preventive care.PurpleJ said:
All those things are enabled by overregulation by the government. The socialized countries pay through high taxes.BearsWiin said:
And the empirical evidence in the rest of the rich developed world supports my contention, not yours. You want to fuck things up, make a stupid hybrid system for distorted markets, barriers to entry, local monopolies, opacity in pricing, and greedhead insurance and healthcare interests to keep the system feeding their insane profits. The last element is important; there won't be any decent movement on health care in this country until we get campaign finance reform.PurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something. -
Their security and defense is in our interest too, but I think you knew that. Stay on topic.RaceBannon said:
How about they pay us full cost for our defense of them?BearsWiin said:
Yes, and the amount they pay for it in taxes is substantially lower than what we pay here either through premiums, lost wages, or copayments. People generally see their doctors more frequently than we do in the US, which helps with preventive care.PurpleJ said:
All those things are enabled by overregulation by the government. The socialized countries pay through high taxes.BearsWiin said:
And the empirical evidence in the rest of the rich developed world supports my contention, not yours. You want to fuck things up, make a stupid hybrid system for distorted markets, barriers to entry, local monopolies, opacity in pricing, and greedhead insurance and healthcare interests to keep the system feeding their insane profits. The last element is important; there won't be any decent movement on health care in this country until we get campaign finance reform.PurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something. -
I went off googling for some sexy pics of her but was disappointed. She looks super hot in many of them but none are revealing enough to post.PurpleThrobber said:
Fuck that.AZDuck said:
The US of A =! Rest of World, TRUE?!?!!!!?!PurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something.
This.
Still might have to brb jo anyway -
what the fuck are you doing in a crackhead's private room?doogie said:
Bullshit. The crackhead with no teeth I just saw throw her food across the room complaining about the taste while sitting in a private fucking room, disagrees.BearsWiin said:
Yes, and the amount they pay for it in taxes is substantially lower than what we pay here either through premiums, lost wages, or copayments. People generally see their doctors more frequently than we do in the US, which helps with preventive care.PurpleJ said:
All those things are enabled by overregulation by the government. The socialized countries pay through high taxes.BearsWiin said:
And the empirical evidence in the rest of the rich developed world supports my contention, not yours. You want to fuck things up, make a stupid hybrid system for distorted markets, barriers to entry, local monopolies, opacity in pricing, and greedhead insurance and healthcare interests to keep the system feeding their insane profits. The last element is important; there won't be any decent movement on health care in this country until we get campaign finance reform.PurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something. -
If you have to ask...AZDuck said:
what the fuck are you doing in a crackhead's private room?doogie said:
Bullshit. The crackhead with no teeth I just saw throw her food across the room complaining about the taste while sitting in a private fucking room, disagrees.BearsWiin said:
Yes, and the amount they pay for it in taxes is substantially lower than what we pay here either through premiums, lost wages, or copayments. People generally see their doctors more frequently than we do in the US, which helps with preventive care.PurpleJ said:
All those things are enabled by overregulation by the government. The socialized countries pay through high taxes.BearsWiin said:
And the empirical evidence in the rest of the rich developed world supports my contention, not yours. You want to fuck things up, make a stupid hybrid system for distorted markets, barriers to entry, local monopolies, opacity in pricing, and greedhead insurance and healthcare interests to keep the system feeding their insane profits. The last element is important; there won't be any decent movement on health care in this country until we get campaign finance reform.PurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something. -
This is on topic. Our defense is in their interest. You want what they have we have to level the fieldBearsWiin said:
Their security and defense is in our interest too, but I think you knew that. Stay on topic.RaceBannon said:
How about they pay us full cost for our defense of them?BearsWiin said:
Yes, and the amount they pay for it in taxes is substantially lower than what we pay here either through premiums, lost wages, or copayments. People generally see their doctors more frequently than we do in the US, which helps with preventive care.PurpleJ said:
All those things are enabled by overregulation by the government. The socialized countries pay through high taxes.BearsWiin said:
And the empirical evidence in the rest of the rich developed world supports my contention, not yours. You want to fuck things up, make a stupid hybrid system for distorted markets, barriers to entry, local monopolies, opacity in pricing, and greedhead insurance and healthcare interests to keep the system feeding their insane profits. The last element is important; there won't be any decent movement on health care in this country until we get campaign finance reform.PurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something. -
WeakAZDuck said:
Don't believe everything you hear on Fox news, buddy.RaceBannon said:
Well as long as your happy we won't worry about all the folks that got fucked there.AZDuck said:
What the fuck do you know about the VA? I'm pretty happy with my care there.RaceBannon said:Human nature is undefeated and that's what you see at the VA. I am sure there are lots of good people there but there is no incentive to be great. It all pays the same. And the VA handles rationing by delaying care until the poor sod is dead. I am convinced uber national care for all would end up the same.
We have the best healthcare. We don't have the best insurance or delivery. We are smart enough to fix that without turning it over to fed employees.
This hybrid shit is what fucked it up in the first place.
Universal coverage would have to have some reason for the drones to give a fuck and make sure you get the right knee fixed when you tear it up skiing.
Its all about you
I was happy with pre Obamacare insurance. So fuck the fuck off -
Probably more of a derisive snort.RaceBannon said:
Big belly laughs in the media room?BearsWiin said:
I'll be sure to tell him you think so on Monday. He likes a good laugh.RaceBannon said:
I'm a bidnessman too and the Bear's buddy isn't as hot as he thinks he is when it comes to pricePurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something.
"We can't have effective health care like Europeans have (or Japanese or Koreans have) because we spent all the money defending them."RaceBannon said:
This is on topic. Our defense is in their interest. You want what they have we have to level the fieldBearsWiin said:
Their security and defense is in our interest too, but I think you knew that. Stay on topic.RaceBannon said:
How about they pay us full cost for our defense of them?BearsWiin said:
Yes, and the amount they pay for it in taxes is substantially lower than what we pay here either through premiums, lost wages, or copayments. People generally see their doctors more frequently than we do in the US, which helps with preventive care.PurpleJ said:
All those things are enabled by overregulation by the government. The socialized countries pay through high taxes.BearsWiin said:
And the empirical evidence in the rest of the rich developed world supports my contention, not yours. You want to fuck things up, make a stupid hybrid system for distorted markets, barriers to entry, local monopolies, opacity in pricing, and greedhead insurance and healthcare interests to keep the system feeding their insane profits. The last element is important; there won't be any decent movement on health care in this country until we get campaign finance reform.PurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something.
Auce argument. -
Thank youBearsWiin said:
Probably more of a derisive snort.RaceBannon said:
Big belly laughs in the media room?BearsWiin said:
I'll be sure to tell him you think so on Monday. He likes a good laugh.RaceBannon said:
I'm a bidnessman too and the Bear's buddy isn't as hot as he thinks he is when it comes to pricePurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something.
"We can't have effective health care like Europeans have (or Japanese or Koreans have) because we spent all the money defending them."RaceBannon said:
This is on topic. Our defense is in their interest. You want what they have we have to level the fieldBearsWiin said:
Their security and defense is in our interest too, but I think you knew that. Stay on topic.RaceBannon said:
How about they pay us full cost for our defense of them?BearsWiin said:
Yes, and the amount they pay for it in taxes is substantially lower than what we pay here either through premiums, lost wages, or copayments. People generally see their doctors more frequently than we do in the US, which helps with preventive care.PurpleJ said:
All those things are enabled by overregulation by the government. The socialized countries pay through high taxes.BearsWiin said:
And the empirical evidence in the rest of the rich developed world supports my contention, not yours. You want to fuck things up, make a stupid hybrid system for distorted markets, barriers to entry, local monopolies, opacity in pricing, and greedhead insurance and healthcare interests to keep the system feeding their insane profits. The last element is important; there won't be any decent movement on health care in this country until we get campaign finance reform.PurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something.
Auce argument.
We have great healthcare. We have idiots fucking up the delivery. You can always LEAVE
For some reason every one wants to come here -
Hot.Pitchfork51 said:
I went off googling for some sexy pics of her but was disappointed. She looks super hot in many of them but none are revealing enough to post.PurpleThrobber said:
Fuck that.AZDuck said:
The US of A =! Rest of World, TRUE?!?!!!!?!PurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something.
This.
Still might have to brb jo anyway
Hotter.
brb, jo.
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I WAS BEING SARKASMICRaceBannon said:
Thank youBearsWiin said:
Probably more of a derisive snort.RaceBannon said:
Big belly laughs in the media room?BearsWiin said:
I'll be sure to tell him you think so on Monday. He likes a good laugh.RaceBannon said:
I'm a bidnessman too and the Bear's buddy isn't as hot as he thinks he is when it comes to pricePurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something.
"We can't have effective health care like Europeans have (or Japanese or Koreans have) because we spent all the money defending them."RaceBannon said:
This is on topic. Our defense is in their interest. You want what they have we have to level the fieldBearsWiin said:
Their security and defense is in our interest too, but I think you knew that. Stay on topic.RaceBannon said:
How about they pay us full cost for our defense of them?BearsWiin said:
Yes, and the amount they pay for it in taxes is substantially lower than what we pay here either through premiums, lost wages, or copayments. People generally see their doctors more frequently than we do in the US, which helps with preventive care.PurpleJ said:
All those things are enabled by overregulation by the government. The socialized countries pay through high taxes.BearsWiin said:
And the empirical evidence in the rest of the rich developed world supports my contention, not yours. You want to fuck things up, make a stupid hybrid system for distorted markets, barriers to entry, local monopolies, opacity in pricing, and greedhead insurance and healthcare interests to keep the system feeding their insane profits. The last element is important; there won't be any decent movement on health care in this country until we get campaign finance reform.PurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something.
Auce argument.
We have great healthcare. We have idiots fucking up the delivery. You can always LEAVE
For some reason every one wants to come here
We do have great healthcare. It costs too much. It's a huge wealth redistribution to health care and pharmaceutical companies. Nobody else worth a shit does it this way, and for good reason.
Everyone does not want to come here. That's just what people like you like to tell themselves and others about how purrfect AMERICA, FUCK YEAH! is. -
shoutout to stophPurpleThrobber said:
Hot.Pitchfork51 said:
I went off googling for some sexy pics of her but was disappointed. She looks super hot in many of them but none are revealing enough to post.PurpleThrobber said:
Fuck that.AZDuck said:
The US of A =! Rest of World, TRUE?!?!!!!?!PurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something.
This.
Still might have to brb jo anyway
Hotter.
brb, jo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCpPEDCK5T0 -
In that first pic she's almost perfect looking.
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People like me? That's racistBearsWiin said:
I WAS BEING SARKASMICRaceBannon said:
Thank youBearsWiin said:
Probably more of a derisive snort.RaceBannon said:
Big belly laughs in the media room?BearsWiin said:
I'll be sure to tell him you think so on Monday. He likes a good laugh.RaceBannon said:
I'm a bidnessman too and the Bear's buddy isn't as hot as he thinks he is when it comes to pricePurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something.
"We can't have effective health care like Europeans have (or Japanese or Koreans have) because we spent all the money defending them."RaceBannon said:
This is on topic. Our defense is in their interest. You want what they have we have to level the fieldBearsWiin said:
Their security and defense is in our interest too, but I think you knew that. Stay on topic.RaceBannon said:
How about they pay us full cost for our defense of them?BearsWiin said:
Yes, and the amount they pay for it in taxes is substantially lower than what we pay here either through premiums, lost wages, or copayments. People generally see their doctors more frequently than we do in the US, which helps with preventive care.PurpleJ said:
All those things are enabled by overregulation by the government. The socialized countries pay through high taxes.BearsWiin said:
And the empirical evidence in the rest of the rich developed world supports my contention, not yours. You want to fuck things up, make a stupid hybrid system for distorted markets, barriers to entry, local monopolies, opacity in pricing, and greedhead insurance and healthcare interests to keep the system feeding their insane profits. The last element is important; there won't be any decent movement on health care in this country until we get campaign finance reform.PurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something.
Auce argument.
We have great healthcare. We have idiots fucking up the delivery. You can always LEAVE
For some reason every one wants to come here
We do have great healthcare. It costs too much. It's a huge wealth redistribution to health care and pharmaceutical companies. Nobody else worth a shit does it this way, and for good reason.
Everyone does not want to come here. That's just what people like you like to tell themselves and others about how purrfect AMERICA, FUCK YEAH! is.
I was going to agree with the rest of the post -
People don't like you? I like you. In fact, I love you, manRaceBannon said:
People like me? That's racistBearsWiin said:
I WAS BEING SARKASMICRaceBannon said:
Thank youBearsWiin said:
Probably more of a derisive snort.RaceBannon said:
Big belly laughs in the media room?BearsWiin said:
I'll be sure to tell him you think so on Monday. He likes a good laugh.RaceBannon said:
I'm a bidnessman too and the Bear's buddy isn't as hot as he thinks he is when it comes to pricePurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something.
"We can't have effective health care like Europeans have (or Japanese or Koreans have) because we spent all the money defending them."RaceBannon said:
This is on topic. Our defense is in their interest. You want what they have we have to level the fieldBearsWiin said:
Their security and defense is in our interest too, but I think you knew that. Stay on topic.RaceBannon said:
How about they pay us full cost for our defense of them?BearsWiin said:
Yes, and the amount they pay for it in taxes is substantially lower than what we pay here either through premiums, lost wages, or copayments. People generally see their doctors more frequently than we do in the US, which helps with preventive care.PurpleJ said:
All those things are enabled by overregulation by the government. The socialized countries pay through high taxes.BearsWiin said:
And the empirical evidence in the rest of the rich developed world supports my contention, not yours. You want to fuck things up, make a stupid hybrid system for distorted markets, barriers to entry, local monopolies, opacity in pricing, and greedhead insurance and healthcare interests to keep the system feeding their insane profits. The last element is important; there won't be any decent movement on health care in this country until we get campaign finance reform.PurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something.
Auce argument.
We have great healthcare. We have idiots fucking up the delivery. You can always LEAVE
For some reason every one wants to come here
We do have great healthcare. It costs too much. It's a huge wealth redistribution to health care and pharmaceutical companies. Nobody else worth a shit does it this way, and for good reason.
Everyone does not want to come here. That's just what people like you like to tell themselves and others about how purrfect AMERICA, FUCK YEAH! is.
I was going to agree with the rest of the post -
I love you too manBearsWiin said:
People don't like you? I like you. In fact, I love you, manRaceBannon said:
People like me? That's racistBearsWiin said:
I WAS BEING SARKASMICRaceBannon said:
Thank youBearsWiin said:
Probably more of a derisive snort.RaceBannon said:
Big belly laughs in the media room?BearsWiin said:
I'll be sure to tell him you think so on Monday. He likes a good laugh.RaceBannon said:
I'm a bidnessman too and the Bear's buddy isn't as hot as he thinks he is when it comes to pricePurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something.
"We can't have effective health care like Europeans have (or Japanese or Koreans have) because we spent all the money defending them."RaceBannon said:
This is on topic. Our defense is in their interest. You want what they have we have to level the fieldBearsWiin said:
Their security and defense is in our interest too, but I think you knew that. Stay on topic.RaceBannon said:
How about they pay us full cost for our defense of them?BearsWiin said:
Yes, and the amount they pay for it in taxes is substantially lower than what we pay here either through premiums, lost wages, or copayments. People generally see their doctors more frequently than we do in the US, which helps with preventive care.PurpleJ said:
All those things are enabled by overregulation by the government. The socialized countries pay through high taxes.BearsWiin said:
And the empirical evidence in the rest of the rich developed world supports my contention, not yours. You want to fuck things up, make a stupid hybrid system for distorted markets, barriers to entry, local monopolies, opacity in pricing, and greedhead insurance and healthcare interests to keep the system feeding their insane profits. The last element is important; there won't be any decent movement on health care in this country until we get campaign finance reform.PurpleJ said:
The empirical evidence in this country says otherwise. Costs have gone up the more the government gets involved.BearsWiin said:
Getting the government fully involved will lead to lower costs and better outcomes. There's no reason that a rich country like ours can't have a health care system as good as, say, Germany's.PurpleJ said:The only way to get rid of profiteering is to get the government more involved. El. Oh. El.
Local businessman comes up to me this morning at the gym and asks me about our small business health insurance rate increases over the last several years. I tell him that we were dealing with generally worse coverage for more money, with an average of 10-15%/year increases since 2007. He then tells me that for the 600 people he insures his rates went up 11-18%/yr before Obamacare, then flattened out since it went into effect. He then told me the story, again, of how he tore up his knee skiing in France and had to have it reconstructed over there, and the total medical cost to fix it was 1/4 of what it would have cost if he had fucked up his knee in the US. A successful entrepreneur, and one of the richest guys in the county (and there's a fuckton of money in this county) knows our system is broken and can learn a lot from the Europeans. I'm inclined to give his thoughts on health care more weight then the basement boners in sweats here who blather HA! CANADA! like that's supposed to mean something.
Auce argument.
We have great healthcare. We have idiots fucking up the delivery. You can always LEAVE
For some reason every one wants to come here
We do have great healthcare. It costs too much. It's a huge wealth redistribution to health care and pharmaceutical companies. Nobody else worth a shit does it this way, and for good reason.
Everyone does not want to come here. That's just what people like you like to tell themselves and others about how purrfect AMERICA, FUCK YEAH! is.
I was going to agree with the rest of the post -
Make doctors our slaves and their children can be taught to be slave doctors too.
BAM! Free healthcare!
What else needs solving? -
Get rid of fucking insurance completely. In five years everything would be sorted out. Open heart surgery would still be around $25k. Billy Bob who lives in the trailer park would stop living on corn dogs because he knows when his ticker goes to shit it's over.
We have a problem that no other country had to face. They weren't retarded like us and got it right off the bat. We are super fucking unhealthy. The only way we could go to centralized medicine would be to take a very firm stance on taking care of yourself for about a decade.
The self induced diabetics have to go. The bill is going to be more than our defense budget regardless of what way we choose to go from here on out, but only one way has a positive outcome. -
I guess Romney care sucks after all.
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What better way to encourage healthy lifestyles than to have INDIVIDUALS be responsible for their own healthcare.
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I agree up to a point, but shit like cancer happens to elite athletes and kids too, not just fat fucks that eat nachos and drink soda all day like it's water.PurpleJ said:What better way to encourage healthy lifestyles than to have INDIVIDUALS be responsible for their own healthcare.
