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PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,257 Founders Club
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,183 Standard Supporter
    Steny Hoyer can kiss my large white ass.

    Da fuq names their kid "Steny" any how?

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  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    edited May 2017
    Democrats actually think that if the Senate passes this that the Republicans will be voted out because of it. Although the only ones that are protesting this are the worthless and jobless who can't apply because they don't have a resume' but you can be damn sure they will actually register to vote this time in 2018.
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  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,257 Founders Club
    Dems don't realize that the ACA is why they lost the election.
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  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,257 Founders Club
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Dems don't realize that the ACA is why they lost the election.

    That argument would have made sense in 2012.
    Were premiums going up back then?
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  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    PurpleJ said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Dems don't realize that the ACA is why they lost the election.

    That argument would have made sense in 2012.
    Were premiums going up back then?
    Yes.
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  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,950
    In 2012 it was cheap and you had options. Now it is triple the cost for no options.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,850 Founders Club
    In 2012 the democrats lost seats. Obama is to this day personally popular. His party paid for his sins.

    Obamacare sucked hard. we fucked the 96% for the 4% who got care regardless of how you called it. Breaking out the precondition folks and just writing a check like we always have allows the vast majority to pick and choose among a wider option of plans.

    The exchanges are all but dead. The 20 million "new" insured didn't pay for their insurance. It was a completely retarded approach that took 17 months to pass and 8 weeks to get rid of
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  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,257 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    Premium price increases for small business owners have been outpacing inflation by a wide margin for years, regardless of the ACA. Obamacare wasn't a great solution, but it also isn't the problem.

    No it just exasperated the problem. Thanks Bill Clinton!
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  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    BearsWiin said:

    Premium price increases for small business owners have been outpacing inflation by a wide margin for years, regardless of the ACA. Obamacare wasn't a great solution, but it also isn't the problem.

    This guy gets it.

    This isn't oil. You can't just pump more and drive down prices. We are an old, fat, and sick population. People will need to get healthier for premiums to go down.

    That may well happen one day, but no care act will ever shape for profit insurance and medicine.
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    RaceBannon said:

    In 2012 the democrats lost seats. Obama is to this day personally popular. His party paid for his sins.

    Obamacare sucked hard. we fucked the 96% for the 4% who got care regardless of how you called it. Breaking out the precondition folks and just writing a check like we always have allows the vast majority to pick and choose among a wider option of plans.

    The exchanges are all but dead. The 20 million "new" insured didn't pay for their insurance. It was a completely retarded approach that took 17 months to pass and 8 weeks to get rid of

    This bill doesn't help save the exchanges. All they need to do is allow insurance companies to sell inside the entire state and get rid of the county boundaries that currently exist. So broke farming counties that vote Republican can have more than one insurance company.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,850 Founders Club
    We don't want to save the exchanges. Hope this helps.

    Getting rid of the conditions will bring the insurers back.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    PurpleJ said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Dems don't realize that the ACA is why they lost the election.

    That argument would have made sense in 2012.
    Were premiums going up back then?
    Yes
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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    RaceBannon said:

    We don't want to save the exchanges. Hope this helps.

    Getting rid of the conditions will bring the insurers back.

    And no one will be able to afford the premiums.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,850 Founders Club
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RaceBannon said:

    We don't want to save the exchanges. Hope this helps.

    Getting rid of the conditions will bring the insurers back.

    And no one will be able to afford the premiums.
    You're describing where we are now. Separating previous conditions lowers the cost for the rest
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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,850 Founders Club
    When did you start caring about premium costs?
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,183 Standard Supporter
    RaceBannon said:

    When did you start caring about premium costs?

    Translation: You sound poor.
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