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  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,295 Founders Club

    NOC. The left will blow this insignificant tidbit completely out of proportion to take the lens off the primary topic of the evening.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,837

    dflea said:

    Has anyone really ever given a shit what the First Lady, or presumptive First Lady says?

    I stopped listening 20 seconds in - and just checked out her tits, mouth, and ass for the remainder of the time.

    When your campaign is centered on attacking the credibility of a former First Lady, it helps if your prospective First Lady doesn't shit the bed.
    Completely missing the mark
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,295 Founders Club
    edited July 2016
    Seriously? She gave an innocuous speech that had some elements that appear to have been edited extractions from the Grinch's speech eight years ago. So what? At least she didn't say it was the first time in her life that she was proud of her country.

    I think you need to continue watching your CNN and MSNBC feeds for more talking points.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,837
    Peterman said:

    Tequilla said:

    My apologies. It appears Melania is excellent at plagiarism shit:

    http://gawker.com/melania-trump-apparently-plagiarized-a-section-of-miche-1783889522

    What's strange is that the parts that are being cited for plagiarizing are words that I would say you could hear in similar discussions on this type of topic.

    Another thing that I've learned over the years is that depending on where you are in the world, the topic of plagiarism, stretching the truth, etc. is completely different than our standards.

    I also think a lot of times people view plagiarism as full blown source stealing whereas this would clearly be at best a couple of lines that are very, very generic.
    "Very generic" my asshole, one part was 22 out of 26 words exactly the same in exactly the same place. Obvious plagiarism
    When you're talking about very generic things about how you grew up, your values, etc. there's a lot of these comments that would be very similar from person to person.

    I'm sure that there are things any of us have said in the past that could be cited for plagiarism. I know personally, I've said things that people have claimed I've taken straight from somebody else and I've never even seen what those people have said.
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,295 Founders Club

    Tequilla said:

    dflea said:

    Has anyone really ever given a shit what the First Lady, or presumptive First Lady says?

    I stopped listening 20 seconds in - and just checked out her tits, mouth, and ass for the remainder of the time.

    When your campaign is centered on attacking the credibility of a former First Lady, it helps if your prospective First Lady doesn't shit the bed.
    Completely missing the mark
    So you think it's good that Melania wants to be Michelle?
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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,970 Standard Supporter
    Trump is playing the media like The Truman Show.

    Their outrage will play well with women, miniroties and illegal immigrants voting for dead people.
  • PetermanPeterman Member Posts: 675
    Tequilla said:

    Peterman said:

    Tequilla said:

    My apologies. It appears Melania is excellent at plagiarism shit:

    http://gawker.com/melania-trump-apparently-plagiarized-a-section-of-miche-1783889522

    What's strange is that the parts that are being cited for plagiarizing are words that I would say you could hear in similar discussions on this type of topic.

    Another thing that I've learned over the years is that depending on where you are in the world, the topic of plagiarism, stretching the truth, etc. is completely different than our standards.

    I also think a lot of times people view plagiarism as full blown source stealing whereas this would clearly be at best a couple of lines that are very, very generic.
    "Very generic" my asshole, one part was 22 out of 26 words exactly the same in exactly the same place. Obvious plagiarism
    When you're talking about very generic things about how you grew up, your values, etc. there's a lot of these comments that would be very similar from person to person.

    I'm sure that there are things any of us have said in the past that could be cited for plagiarism. I know personally, I've said things that people have claimed I've taken straight from somebody else and I've never even seen what those people have said.
    I get that but these are almost identical and it isn't just a phrase here or there. Also, the order is the same for both speeches
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,295 Founders Club

    Trump is playing the media like The Truman Show.

    Their outrage will play well with women, miniroties and illegal immigrants voting for dead people.

    Explains the outrage by Sven and his other handles
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Trump is playing the media like The Truman Show.

    Their outrage will play well with women, miniroties and illegal immigrants voting for dead people.

    Explains the outrage by Sven and his other handles
    You were already Nebraska classy in your concession. You don't need to suck my dick too.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,837

    Tequilla said:

    dflea said:

    Has anyone really ever given a shit what the First Lady, or presumptive First Lady says?

    I stopped listening 20 seconds in - and just checked out her tits, mouth, and ass for the remainder of the time.

    When your campaign is centered on attacking the credibility of a former First Lady, it helps if your prospective First Lady doesn't shit the bed.
    Completely missing the mark
    So you think it's good that Melania wants to be Michelle?
    1) Anybody that votes for either Hillary or Trump because of Melania's speech tonight probably shouldn't be voting

    2) Plagiarism is definitely nebulous to me ... it's clear that Michelle's speech was used in the research for this speech ... that's not really debatable.

    3) I think it's very reasonable to consider that English is definitely not Melania's first language ... it's also not uncommon when people are trying to find ways to express their thoughts when they aren't sure of how to word to find other examples that are similar ... which is probably how Michelle's speech topic here came into play ...

    My best guess of what happened:

    Melania had these thoughts but didn't quite know how to say them ... as I said before, there's nothing too earth shattering or unique with the themes that make them unique to Michelle and Michelle only.

    Someone (a speech writer) probably pulled Michelle's speech and gave to Melania as an example of a speech at a convention coming from the potential first lady.

    Melania (and/or her speech writer) probably saw the part of Michelle's speech that echoed her thoughts and used it as a framework for her comments changing it as it worked into her speech.

    If someone asked me for what I learned from my parents, my comments would circle around:

    1) value of hard work
    2) you are only as good as your word
    3) you treat people how you want to be treated
    4) you do as you say
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    That just confirms what I already know.

    Melania. So hot I need to brb, jo.

    Michelle. Boner kill.
    Agree
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