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$15 an hour FUCK YA

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  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    They find out what you would do... then do the opposite.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,899 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Quite honestly, Hondo, your posts are difficult to unravel.

    "businesses price their products to get the demand they need."

    What?

    Shitstain, is that concept lost on you? OK. How do you think businesses price products then? I'd like to hear this.
    Yes. It is. Because it's fucking retarded. I think I know what you're trying, but failing to say.

    Is English your second language? Or are you just a shitty writer?
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Quite honestly, Hondo, your posts are difficult to unravel.

    "businesses price their products to get the demand they need."

    What?

    Shitstain, is that concept lost on you? OK. How do you think businesses price products then? I'd like to hear this.
    Yes. It is. Because it's fucking retarded. I think I know what you're trying, but failing to say.

    Is English your second language? Or are you just a shitty writer?
    Answer the question shitstain. How do businesses price products?
  • HuskyJWHuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,362 Swaye's Wigwam
    If I like my $12 an hour can I keep it?
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,899 Standard Supporter
    There are several factors involved in pricing products, Hondo. Hence, your question is as poorly presented as your previous writing attempts.

    BTW, "skidmark" is way funnier than "shitstain," which I think you were trying for.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    There are several factors involved in pricing products, Hondo. Hence, your question is as poorly presented as your previous writing attempts.

    BTW, "skidmark" is way funnier than "shitstain," which I think you were trying for.

    Disagree.

    Nice non answer. For the record, shitstain and others have implied that the smart decision is to raise prices just because costs go up. And that's an effective pricing strategy.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,899 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    There are several factors involved in pricing products, Hondo. Hence, your question is as poorly presented as your previous writing attempts.

    BTW, "skidmark" is way funnier than "shitstain," which I think you were trying for.

    Disagree.

    Nice non answer. For the record, shitstain and others have implied that the smart decision is to raise prices just because costs go up. And that's an effective pricing strategy.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    There are several factors involved in pricing products, Hondo. Hence, your question is as poorly presented as your previous writing attempts.

    BTW, "skidmark" is way funnier than "shitstain," which I think you were trying for.

    Disagree.

    Nice non answer. For the record, shitstain and others have implied that the smart decision is to raise prices just because costs go up. And that's an effective pricing strategy.
    Nice non answer as always.
  • WeAreAFatLesboSchoolWeAreAFatLesboSchool Guest Posts: 736

    The fallacy of the the $15 minimum wage (any minimum wage actually) is that it prices people who can only provide $14 worth of value out of the market entirely. The unseen victim in these transactions are the people who never were offered jobs who maintain an income of $0/hourly because they're priced out of the market relative to their labor value. If you were really concerned about the welfare of poor people you would be against the minimum wage altogether.

    This
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,309

    The fallacy of the the $15 minimum wage (any minimum wage actually) is that it prices people who can only provide $14 worth of value out of the market entirely. The unseen victim in these transactions are the people who never were offered jobs who maintain an income of $0/hourly because they're priced out of the market relative to their labor value. If you were really concerned about the welfare of poor people you would be against the minimum wage altogether.

    Absolutely,

    This kind of increase to minimum wage hurts more people than it actually helps.

    People producing $15.00/hr of work at $10.00 an hour will no longer be underpaid, but people performing $10.00/hr work will be replaced by people performing $15.00/hr work. You basically price out the lower skilled worker. So now instead of making minimum wage, these guys make zero which then makes them higher recipients of welfare dollars.

    People making $16.00-$20.00 will lose buying power

    Social Security beneficiaries will also lose buying power, since they haven't seen an increase in benefits in over 3 years.

    You'll actually see the opposite of what it's intention is supposed to be. You'll actually see an increase in poverty in general, and also an increase in the amount of severely impoverished.

    The only true way of wealth growth is through job creation. 40% increase in minimum wage will actually take jobs away from the unskilled worker, which the minimum wage is supposed to protect.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    The fallacy of the the $15 minimum wage (any minimum wage actually) is that it prices people who can only provide $14 worth of value out of the market entirely. The unseen victim in these transactions are the people who never were offered jobs who maintain an income of $0/hourly because they're priced out of the market relative to their labor value. If you were really concerned about the welfare of poor people you would be against the minimum wage altogether.

    Absolutely,

    This kind of increase to minimum wage hurts more people than it actually helps.

    People producing $15.00/hr of work at $10.00 an hour will no longer be underpaid, but people performing $10.00/hr work will be replaced by people performing $15.00/hr work. You basically price out the lower skilled worker. So now instead of making minimum wage, these guys make zero which then makes them higher recipients of welfare dollars.

    People making $16.00-$20.00 will lose buying power

    Social Security beneficiaries will also lose buying power, since they haven't seen an increase in benefits in over 3 years.

    You'll actually see the opposite of what it's intention is supposed to be. You'll actually see an increase in poverty in general, and also an increase in the amount of severely impoverished.

    The only true way of wealth growth is through job creation. 40% increase in minimum wage will actually take jobs away from the unskilled worker, which the minimum wage is supposed to protect.
    You do realize there's a long history of minimum wage hikes that basically makes everything you just stated false.

    HTH
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,309
    edited April 2016
    2001400ex said:

    The fallacy of the the $15 minimum wage (any minimum wage actually) is that it prices people who can only provide $14 worth of value out of the market entirely. The unseen victim in these transactions are the people who never were offered jobs who maintain an income of $0/hourly because they're priced out of the market relative to their labor value. If you were really concerned about the welfare of poor people you would be against the minimum wage altogether.

    Absolutely,

    This kind of increase to minimum wage hurts more people than it actually helps.

    People producing $15.00/hr of work at $10.00 an hour will no longer be underpaid, but people performing $10.00/hr work will be replaced by people performing $15.00/hr work. You basically price out the lower skilled worker. So now instead of making minimum wage, these guys make zero which then makes them higher recipients of welfare dollars.

    People making $16.00-$20.00 will lose buying power

    Social Security beneficiaries will also lose buying power, since they haven't seen an increase in benefits in over 3 years.

    You'll actually see the opposite of what it's intention is supposed to be. You'll actually see an increase in poverty in general, and also an increase in the amount of severely impoverished.

    The only true way of wealth growth is through job creation. 40% increase in minimum wage will actually take jobs away from the unskilled worker, which the minimum wage is supposed to protect.
    You do realize there's a long history of minimum wage hikes that basically makes everything you just stated false.

    HTH
    We've also never seen an increase of this size before. You can increase minimum wage to keep up with inflation, but to increase it by 40%-60% within 3 years is dangerous. In the Portland area it's going from $9.50 to $14.75.
  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    You saw where Gov Jerry Brown just signed CA's new min wage hike "even though it doesn't make economic sense"

    right?
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,899 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    There are several factors involved in pricing products, Hondo. Hence, your question is as poorly presented as your previous writing attempts.

    BTW, "skidmark" is way funnier than "shitstain," which I think you were trying for.

    Disagree.

    Nice non answer. For the record, shitstain and others have implied that the smart decision is to raise prices just because costs go up. And that's an effective pricing strategy.
    Nice non answer as always.
    You answered it yourself, I bolded it, and there it stands. Another Hondo classic.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,899 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2016
    2001400ex said:


    Nice non answer. For the record, shitstain and others have implied that the smart decision is to raise prices just because costs go up. And that's an effective pricing strategy.

    One more time.
  • topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
    2001400ex said:

    The fallacy of the the $15 minimum wage (any minimum wage actually) is that it prices people who can only provide $14 worth of value out of the market entirely. The unseen victim in these transactions are the people who never were offered jobs who maintain an income of $0/hourly because they're priced out of the market relative to their labor value. If you were really concerned about the welfare of poor people you would be against the minimum wage altogether.

    Absolutely,

    This kind of increase to minimum wage hurts more people than it actually helps.

    People producing $15.00/hr of work at $10.00 an hour will no longer be underpaid, but people performing $10.00/hr work will be replaced by people performing $15.00/hr work. You basically price out the lower skilled worker. So now instead of making minimum wage, these guys make zero which then makes them higher recipients of welfare dollars.

    People making $16.00-$20.00 will lose buying power

    Social Security beneficiaries will also lose buying power, since they haven't seen an increase in benefits in over 3 years.

    You'll actually see the opposite of what it's intention is supposed to be. You'll actually see an increase in poverty in general, and also an increase in the amount of severely impoverished.

    The only true way of wealth growth is through job creation. 40% increase in minimum wage will actually take jobs away from the unskilled worker, which the minimum wage is supposed to protect.
    You do realize there's a long history of minimum wage hikes that basically makes everything you just stated false.

    HTH
    28 years ago, when I entered the work force minimum wage was $3.75 an hour.

  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,591 Founders Club
    Min wage in Australia is $15 or $16 an hour. Their economy is fine.
  • doogsinparadisedoogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    Min wage in Australia is $15 or $16 an hour. Their economy is fine.

    Resource economy, but largely still a yes.
  • topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838

    Min wage in Australia is $15 or $16 an hour. Their economy is fine.

    It actually is higher than that.

    However, what you fail to mention ... teenagers are paid much less. McDonald's pays kids the equivalent of $8 an hour to teenagers.

    In addition the cost of the food is much higher than it is in the United States, about 17%.

    I do believe an economy can absorb these higher wages. However, it will come at a cost. It will either drive prices up ... negating the increase in pay ... or it will eliminate jobs.
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,228
    topdawgnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    The fallacy of the the $15 minimum wage (any minimum wage actually) is that it prices people who can only provide $14 worth of value out of the market entirely. The unseen victim in these transactions are the people who never were offered jobs who maintain an income of $0/hourly because they're priced out of the market relative to their labor value. If you were really concerned about the welfare of poor people you would be against the minimum wage altogether.

    Absolutely,

    This kind of increase to minimum wage hurts more people than it actually helps.

    People producing $15.00/hr of work at $10.00 an hour will no longer be underpaid, but people performing $10.00/hr work will be replaced by people performing $15.00/hr work. You basically price out the lower skilled worker. So now instead of making minimum wage, these guys make zero which then makes them higher recipients of welfare dollars.

    People making $16.00-$20.00 will lose buying power

    Social Security beneficiaries will also lose buying power, since they haven't seen an increase in benefits in over 3 years.

    You'll actually see the opposite of what it's intention is supposed to be. You'll actually see an increase in poverty in general, and also an increase in the amount of severely impoverished.

    The only true way of wealth growth is through job creation. 40% increase in minimum wage will actually take jobs away from the unskilled worker, which the minimum wage is supposed to protect.
    You do realize there's a long history of minimum wage hikes that basically makes everything you just stated false.

    HTH
    28 years ago, when I entered the work force minimum wage was $3.75 an hour.

    You were worth $2.45 tops.
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