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Except spending as a percent of GDP increased drastically under Bush and decreased significantly under Obama. How is that "spending like a boat load of drunken sailors?" If you look at facts, spending has actually been under control under Obama.2001400ex said:
Obamacare is the ticking time bomb of entitlements. It has to be repealed. That's why the republicans are gaining seats back. There is a reason Obama delayed so much of its implementation like the lies that have already been revealed.RaceBannon said:GrundleStiltzkin said:http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/republicans-are-winning-fiscal-fight
Actually, that last paragraph is wrong. The best that Democrats can hope for is that Republicans, instead of choosing a Reaganite, nominate and elect a president from the Nixon-Bush wing of the party. Many of the biggest expansions in the size and scope of the federal government have taken place with such Republicans in the White House.
Big surprise - those signing up are getting "free" healthcare at the expense of your former rates and doctor that you can't keep. It will only get worse and more expensive.
When Bush had republican control of the congress he spent like a drunken sailor. Obama spent like a boat load of drunken sailors. When Clinton had Newt to keep him in check we actually had a pretty good deal going.
Reading for comprehension might help you.
The debt has increased exponentially under Obama
Stop with the bullshit. No one believes you. Liars figure and figures lie. Fuck off -
I call you a liar. Do you understand that?2001400ex said:
"30 billion out of 7 trillion is meaningless. Obama was in favor of the stimulus."RaceBannon said:The facts are the facts. Only a fucktard whines about the source. I could link those facts from any number of sources. 30 billion out of 7 trillion is meaningless. Obama was in favor of the stimulus.
Like I said, I just have to sit back and let you show your stupidity. It's working quite well
Your a partisan hack who loves Obama. When you started posting here you claimed your friend though you're a conservative.
All you are is a lying sack like the president you support
Water is wet and Honda gurgles
You don't read well do you? Cause yes my point was $30 billion out of $7 trillion is meaningless, that's pretty much exactly what I said.
If you actually understood how the government works you'd understand this. I'll type slowly so you can maybe understand. You see, the president submits the budget to congress in March. So Bush's last budget was sent to Congress in March of 2008 that was for the period of October 1, 2008 to September 30, 2009. Obama's first budget was submitted in March of 2009 for the period beginning October 1, 2009. You can't count the spending through September 30, 2009 against Obama. Except, like I said that you didn't read, he passed the stimulus bill in March of 2009, which we spent about $30 billion by September 30, 2009. So take the debt on October 1, 2009 and add $30 billion for the stimulus.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_budget_process
Educate yourself.
Again you can't read. I said conservatives call me a left wing liberal. Left wing liberals call me moderate or conservative. Do you understand that? Or should I type that slower next time too? -
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200
Just look at facts. 1994 to 2001 is Clinton. 2002 to 2009 is Bush. 2010 and up is Obama. You notice the explosion in spending under Bush? And it's basically unchanged under Obama? Also notice the other side of the equation no conservative talks about. Revenues. Look what happens in 2009. Revenue tanked because the recession, which started 13 months before Obama took office.
Also look at the far right column. Spending as a prevent if GDP. Notice it went down most of Clinton and Obama's terms and up most of Bush's term.
Now look at revenue as a percent of GDP, notice how it goes up most of Clinton's and Obama's term and down most of Bush's.
It's not about Obama or Bush or republican or democrat. It's about facts. And the last 35 years (including Reagan), we have been much more fiscally responsible under democrats as president than Republicans. -
The debt has increased exponentially under ObamaRaceBannon said:
Except spending as a percent of GDP increased drastically under Bush and decreased significantly under Obama. How is that "spending like a boat load of drunken sailors?" If you look at facts, spending has actually been under control under Obama.2001400ex said:
Obamacare is the ticking time bomb of entitlements. It has to be repealed. That's why the republicans are gaining seats back. There is a reason Obama delayed so much of its implementation like the lies that have already been revealed.RaceBannon said:GrundleStiltzkin said:http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/republicans-are-winning-fiscal-fight
Actually, that last paragraph is wrong. The best that Democrats can hope for is that Republicans, instead of choosing a Reaganite, nominate and elect a president from the Nixon-Bush wing of the party. Many of the biggest expansions in the size and scope of the federal government have taken place with such Republicans in the White House.
Big surprise - those signing up are getting "free" healthcare at the expense of your former rates and doctor that you can't keep. It will only get worse and more expensive.
When Bush had republican control of the congress he spent like a drunken sailor. Obama spent like a boat load of drunken sailors. When Clinton had Newt to keep him in check we actually had a pretty good deal going.
Reading for comprehension might help you.
Stop with the bullshit. No one believes you. Liars figure and figures lie. Fuck off
Except look at facts. See the link I posted. Your head is just stuck in the sand. It's OK to pull out it, the air is nice above the sans. -
Since the congress controls the purse the facts would be who is in control of the congress. Notice that you ignore the fact that Obama has increased the debt more than any other president. If you can't even admit that glaring fact then there is little point in further discussion with such an obvious partisan hack. You aren't fooling anyone.
None of us are claiming that Bush wasn't a big spender. We're pointing out that Obama is a bigger spender and his biggest time bomb of all hasn't kicked in yet. Hard not to notice you're ignoring Obamacare. Why don't you find a graph that says it isn't what it is and get back to us.
There are Obamaites like you all over the web peddling this crap. If you were honest and just tried to defend him on what he has actually done it would be one thing,. Instead its the usual bullshit. I hope you don't think you're original.
The explosion under Bush was the one time stimulus that Obama claims saved the country. The fact that it is unchanged under Obama proves my point, not yours. That's why Obama has raised the debt more than every president combined.
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You want to know how to take care of that bitterness race? See the first step is too pull your pants down. The second step is to grab your douche bag and wipe the sand out your vag.RaceBannon said:
I call you a liar. Do you understand that?2001400ex said:
"30 billion out of 7 trillion is meaningless. Obama was in favor of the stimulus."RaceBannon said:The facts are the facts. Only a fucktard whines about the source. I could link those facts from any number of sources. 30 billion out of 7 trillion is meaningless. Obama was in favor of the stimulus.
Like I said, I just have to sit back and let you show your stupidity. It's working quite well
Your a partisan hack who loves Obama. When you started posting here you claimed your friend though you're a conservative.
All you are is a lying sack like the president you support
Water is wet and Honda gurgles
You don't read well do you? Cause yes my point was $30 billion out of $7 trillion is meaningless, that's pretty much exactly what I said.
If you actually understood how the government works you'd understand this. I'll type slowly so you can maybe understand. You see, the president submits the budget to congress in March. So Bush's last budget was sent to Congress in March of 2008 that was for the period of October 1, 2008 to September 30, 2009. Obama's first budget was submitted in March of 2009 for the period beginning October 1, 2009. You can't count the spending through September 30, 2009 against Obama. Except, like I said that you didn't read, he passed the stimulus bill in March of 2009, which we spent about $30 billion by September 30, 2009. So take the debt on October 1, 2009 and add $30 billion for the stimulus.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_budget_process
Educate yourself.
Again you can't read. I said conservatives call me a left wing liberal. Left wing liberals call me moderate or conservative. Do you understand that? Or should I type that slower next time too? -
I'm not bitter2001400ex said:
You want to know how to take care of that bitterness race? See the first step is too pull your pants down. The second step is to grab your douche bag and wipe the sand out your vag.RaceBannon said:
I call you a liar. Do you understand that?2001400ex said:
"30 billion out of 7 trillion is meaningless. Obama was in favor of the stimulus."RaceBannon said:The facts are the facts. Only a fucktard whines about the source. I could link those facts from any number of sources. 30 billion out of 7 trillion is meaningless. Obama was in favor of the stimulus.
Like I said, I just have to sit back and let you show your stupidity. It's working quite well
Your a partisan hack who loves Obama. When you started posting here you claimed your friend though you're a conservative.
All you are is a lying sack like the president you support
Water is wet and Honda gurgles
You don't read well do you? Cause yes my point was $30 billion out of $7 trillion is meaningless, that's pretty much exactly what I said.
If you actually understood how the government works you'd understand this. I'll type slowly so you can maybe understand. You see, the president submits the budget to congress in March. So Bush's last budget was sent to Congress in March of 2008 that was for the period of October 1, 2008 to September 30, 2009. Obama's first budget was submitted in March of 2009 for the period beginning October 1, 2009. You can't count the spending through September 30, 2009 against Obama. Except, like I said that you didn't read, he passed the stimulus bill in March of 2009, which we spent about $30 billion by September 30, 2009. So take the debt on October 1, 2009 and add $30 billion for the stimulus.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_budget_process
Educate yourself.
Again you can't read. I said conservatives call me a left wing liberal. Left wing liberals call me moderate or conservative. Do you understand that? Or should I type that slower next time too? -
Nope not at all. ;-)RaceBannon said:
I'm not bitter2001400ex said:
You want to know how to take care of that bitterness race? See the first step is too pull your pants down. The second step is to grab your douche bag and wipe the sand out your vag.RaceBannon said:
I call you a liar. Do you understand that?2001400ex said:
"30 billion out of 7 trillion is meaningless. Obama was in favor of the stimulus."RaceBannon said:The facts are the facts. Only a fucktard whines about the source. I could link those facts from any number of sources. 30 billion out of 7 trillion is meaningless. Obama was in favor of the stimulus.
Like I said, I just have to sit back and let you show your stupidity. It's working quite well
Your a partisan hack who loves Obama. When you started posting here you claimed your friend though you're a conservative.
All you are is a lying sack like the president you support
Water is wet and Honda gurgles
You don't read well do you? Cause yes my point was $30 billion out of $7 trillion is meaningless, that's pretty much exactly what I said.
If you actually understood how the government works you'd understand this. I'll type slowly so you can maybe understand. You see, the president submits the budget to congress in March. So Bush's last budget was sent to Congress in March of 2008 that was for the period of October 1, 2008 to September 30, 2009. Obama's first budget was submitted in March of 2009 for the period beginning October 1, 2009. You can't count the spending through September 30, 2009 against Obama. Except, like I said that you didn't read, he passed the stimulus bill in March of 2009, which we spent about $30 billion by September 30, 2009. So take the debt on October 1, 2009 and add $30 billion for the stimulus.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_budget_process
Educate yourself.
Again you can't read. I said conservatives call me a left wing liberal. Left wing liberals call me moderate or conservative. Do you understand that? Or should I type that slower next time too?
Ok let's try this. You say "Obama spent $7 trillion". Why don't you point to the bills, executive orders, etc. of his that add up to $7 trillion. Should be relatively easy to find. -
CollegeDoog actually use to put up better arguments sadly.
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2001400ex said:
Nope not at all. ;-)RaceBannon said:
I'm not bitter2001400ex said:
You want to know how to take care of that bitterness race? See the first step is too pull your pants down. The second step is to grab your douche bag and wipe the sand out your vag.RaceBannon said:
I call you a liar. Do you understand that?2001400ex said:
"30 billion out of 7 trillion is meaningless. Obama was in favor of the stimulus."RaceBannon said:The facts are the facts. Only a fucktard whines about the source. I could link those facts from any number of sources. 30 billion out of 7 trillion is meaningless. Obama was in favor of the stimulus.
Like I said, I just have to sit back and let you show your stupidity. It's working quite well
Your a partisan hack who loves Obama. When you started posting here you claimed your friend though you're a conservative.
All you are is a lying sack like the president you support
Water is wet and Honda gurgles
You don't read well do you? Cause yes my point was $30 billion out of $7 trillion is meaningless, that's pretty much exactly what I said.
If you actually understood how the government works you'd understand this. I'll type slowly so you can maybe understand. You see, the president submits the budget to congress in March. So Bush's last budget was sent to Congress in March of 2008 that was for the period of October 1, 2008 to September 30, 2009. Obama's first budget was submitted in March of 2009 for the period beginning October 1, 2009. You can't count the spending through September 30, 2009 against Obama. Except, like I said that you didn't read, he passed the stimulus bill in March of 2009, which we spent about $30 billion by September 30, 2009. So take the debt on October 1, 2009 and add $30 billion for the stimulus.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_budget_process
Educate yourself.
Again you can't read. I said conservatives call me a left wing liberal. Left wing liberals call me moderate or conservative. Do you understand that? Or should I type that slower next time too?
Ok let's try this. You say "Obama spent $7 trillion". Why don't you point to the bills, executive orders, etc. of his that add up to $7 trillion. Should be relatively easy to find.
Already did. I told you, if you can't even admit the obvious there's no point. I'm going around in circles with you. What has been posted is clear to anyone with half a brain.2001400ex said:
Nope not at all. ;-)RaceBannon said:
I'm not bitter2001400ex said:
You want to know how to take care of that bitterness race? See the first step is too pull your pants down. The second step is to grab your douche bag and wipe the sand out your vag.RaceBannon said:
I call you a liar. Do you understand that?2001400ex said:
"30 billion out of 7 trillion is meaningless. Obama was in favor of the stimulus."RaceBannon said:The facts are the facts. Only a fucktard whines about the source. I could link those facts from any number of sources. 30 billion out of 7 trillion is meaningless. Obama was in favor of the stimulus.
Like I said, I just have to sit back and let you show your stupidity. It's working quite well
Your a partisan hack who loves Obama. When you started posting here you claimed your friend though you're a conservative.
All you are is a lying sack like the president you support
Water is wet and Honda gurgles
You don't read well do you? Cause yes my point was $30 billion out of $7 trillion is meaningless, that's pretty much exactly what I said.
If you actually understood how the government works you'd understand this. I'll type slowly so you can maybe understand. You see, the president submits the budget to congress in March. So Bush's last budget was sent to Congress in March of 2008 that was for the period of October 1, 2008 to September 30, 2009. Obama's first budget was submitted in March of 2009 for the period beginning October 1, 2009. You can't count the spending through September 30, 2009 against Obama. Except, like I said that you didn't read, he passed the stimulus bill in March of 2009, which we spent about $30 billion by September 30, 2009. So take the debt on October 1, 2009 and add $30 billion for the stimulus.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_budget_process
Educate yourself.
Again you can't read. I said conservatives call me a left wing liberal. Left wing liberals call me moderate or conservative. Do you understand that? Or should I type that slower next time too?
Ok let's try this. You say "Obama spent $7 trillion". Why don't you point to the bills, executive orders, etc. of his that add up to $7 trillion. Should be relatively easy to find. -
Pretty sure Honda isn't Middlebury materialCuntWaffle said:CollegeDoog actually use to put up better arguments sadly.
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double double toil and trouble
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Wtf'd because what the fuck? You're a special kind of retard with that response. One thing this thread really exposed is you're a partisan hack who loves government as long as it's doing things your personally agree with. Pretty much like every other goverment loving partisan hack.2001400ex said:
Lol Nice translation. What you just said is that you live on welfare and don't pay any taxes, get back a ton in earned income credit and still bitch that the government takes to much money from you.MikeDamone said:
So you think people in the government should evaluate if it is more "effective" to let people keep more of their money vs If the government took it from them? At least we know where you stand. Statist gonna statist.2001400ex said:
I'm in support of cutting waste and managing expenditures. I'm not in support of just cutting whole programs because groups disagree with the purpose (such as conservatives want all welfare programs gone and democrats wasn't too cut defense). I also think tax loopholes for the wealthy and corporations should be evaluated and some of them removed based on effectiveness.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Are you in support of a contraction of government then?2001400ex said:
Except the last balanced budget was under a democrat president and the largest deficit was under a Republican president. And the deficit has fallen faster under Obama than any other president. Ever.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Statists are statists. Democrats happen to be the leader in the clubhouse right now, with the cult of righteous personality, led by a secular divine-right Leviathan.2001400ex said:
Yeah it's all democrats fault. Republicans don't spend money. Ever. Just listen to their campaign they'll tell you. And the one time they do cut, it fucks everything up. See Kansas and the huge budget deficit.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
That was supposed to be paid for by other established means. Lack of accountability and transparency, irresponsible spending and no clue how to manage projects are the democrats fault, not the taxpayer. How bout we stop spending on pre-school and help fund bertha for one example, og countless others. Tolling was supposed to h e lp fund 520 ...where did that money go? It's fucking rediculous to impose crippling capital gains taxes. Sick of wasting tax money. New taxes will be wasted the same.MikeDamone said:
Muy Roads!!!OZONE said:Have to tax something.
How else is the state supposed to pay for the 520 construction and the Seattle tunnel construction that all of the construction companies are getting rich from? -
Principal: Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.RaceBannon said:Since the congress controls the purse the facts would be who is in control of the congress. Notice that you ignore the fact that Obama has increased the debt more than any other president. If you can't even admit that glaring fact then there is little point in further discussion with such an obvious partisan hack. You aren't fooling anyone.
None of us are claiming that Bush wasn't a big spender. We're pointing out that Obama is a bigger spender and his biggest time bomb of all hasn't kicked in yet. Hard not to notice you're ignoring Obamacare. Why don't you find a graph that says it isn't what it is and get back to us.
There are Obamaites like you all over the web peddling this crap. If you were honest and just tried to defend him on what he has actually done it would be one thing,. Instead its the usual bullshit. I hope you don't think you're original.
The explosion under Bush was the one time stimulus that Obama claims saved the country. The fact that it is unchanged under Obama proves my point, not yours. That's why Obama has raised the debt more than every president combined.
Admit it or fuck off
Billy Madison: Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
You start by saying congress controls the purse strings then go off about Obama's fault. That's fucktarded.
Obama's stimulus was $800 billion. Agreed he spent that. What else had he spent? List it all. Look at facts.
Obamacare? Yes a time bomb right? Cause you known your news sources have been saying it will crater the economy and the economy has only going up since it was implemented. And millions more people have health insurance now. What's your point? -
Yes I'm a partisan hack the posts information from purely factual resources. You don't post shit and race posts shit from CNS news. But I'm the partisan hack. Yup. Got me there. LOL you are just pissed cause i called you out.MikeDamone said:
Wtf'd because what the fuck? You're a special kind of retard with that response. One thing this thread really exposed is you're a partisan hack who loves government as long as it's doing things your personally agree with. Pretty much like every other goverment loving partisan hack.2001400ex said:
Lol Nice translation. What you just said is that you live on welfare and don't pay any taxes, get back a ton in earned income credit and still bitch that the government takes to much money from you.MikeDamone said:
So you think people in the government should evaluate if it is more "effective" to let people keep more of their money vs If the government took it from them? At least we know where you stand. Statist gonna statist.2001400ex said:
I'm in support of cutting waste and managing expenditures. I'm not in support of just cutting whole programs because groups disagree with the purpose (such as conservatives want all welfare programs gone and democrats wasn't too cut defense). I also think tax loopholes for the wealthy and corporations should be evaluated and some of them removed based on effectiveness.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Are you in support of a contraction of government then?2001400ex said:
Except the last balanced budget was under a democrat president and the largest deficit was under a Republican president. And the deficit has fallen faster under Obama than any other president. Ever.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Statists are statists. Democrats happen to be the leader in the clubhouse right now, with the cult of righteous personality, led by a secular divine-right Leviathan.2001400ex said:
Yeah it's all democrats fault. Republicans don't spend money. Ever. Just listen to their campaign they'll tell you. And the one time they do cut, it fucks everything up. See Kansas and the huge budget deficit.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
That was supposed to be paid for by other established means. Lack of accountability and transparency, irresponsible spending and no clue how to manage projects are the democrats fault, not the taxpayer. How bout we stop spending on pre-school and help fund bertha for one example, og countless others. Tolling was supposed to h e lp fund 520 ...where did that money go? It's fucking rediculous to impose crippling capital gains taxes. Sick of wasting tax money. New taxes will be wasted the same.MikeDamone said:
Muy Roads!!!OZONE said:Have to tax something.
How else is the state supposed to pay for the 520 construction and the Seattle tunnel construction that all of the construction companies are getting rich from? -
Terran, Protoss, or Zerg?2001400ex said:
Yes I'm a partisan hack the posts information from purely factual resources. You don't post shit and race posts shit from CNS news. But I'm the partisan hack. Yup. Got me there. LOL you are just pissed cause i called you out.MikeDamone said:
Wtf'd because what the fuck? You're a special kind of retard with that response. One thing this thread really exposed is you're a partisan hack who loves government as long as it's doing things your personally agree with. Pretty much like every other goverment loving partisan hack.2001400ex said:
Lol Nice translation. What you just said is that you live on welfare and don't pay any taxes, get back a ton in earned income credit and still bitch that the government takes to much money from you.MikeDamone said:
So you think people in the government should evaluate if it is more "effective" to let people keep more of their money vs If the government took it from them? At least we know where you stand. Statist gonna statist.2001400ex said:
I'm in support of cutting waste and managing expenditures. I'm not in support of just cutting whole programs because groups disagree with the purpose (such as conservatives want all welfare programs gone and democrats wasn't too cut defense). I also think tax loopholes for the wealthy and corporations should be evaluated and some of them removed based on effectiveness.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Are you in support of a contraction of government then?2001400ex said:
Except the last balanced budget was under a democrat president and the largest deficit was under a Republican president. And the deficit has fallen faster under Obama than any other president. Ever.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Statists are statists. Democrats happen to be the leader in the clubhouse right now, with the cult of righteous personality, led by a secular divine-right Leviathan.2001400ex said:
Yeah it's all democrats fault. Republicans don't spend money. Ever. Just listen to their campaign they'll tell you. And the one time they do cut, it fucks everything up. See Kansas and the huge budget deficit.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
That was supposed to be paid for by other established means. Lack of accountability and transparency, irresponsible spending and no clue how to manage projects are the democrats fault, not the taxpayer. How bout we stop spending on pre-school and help fund bertha for one example, og countless others. Tolling was supposed to h e lp fund 520 ...where did that money go? It's fucking rediculous to impose crippling capital gains taxes. Sick of wasting tax money. New taxes will be wasted the same.MikeDamone said:
Muy Roads!!!OZONE said:Have to tax something.
How else is the state supposed to pay for the 520 construction and the Seattle tunnel construction that all of the construction companies are getting rich from? -
Called me out on what? Jesus Christ. Yes, you're sources are "purely factual"... Because they fit your agenda. I do post shit. I post you're a government loving statist who wants to control people according to your beliefs. That's all.2001400ex said:
Yes I'm a partisan hack the posts information from purely factual resources. You don't post shit and race posts shit from CNS news. But I'm the partisan hack. Yup. Got me there. LOL you are just pissed cause i called you out.MikeDamone said:
Wtf'd because what the fuck? You're a special kind of retard with that response. One thing this thread really exposed is you're a partisan hack who loves government as long as it's doing things your personally agree with. Pretty much like every other goverment loving partisan hack.2001400ex said:
Lol Nice translation. What you just said is that you live on welfare and don't pay any taxes, get back a ton in earned income credit and still bitch that the government takes to much money from you.MikeDamone said:
So you think people in the government should evaluate if it is more "effective" to let people keep more of their money vs If the government took it from them? At least we know where you stand. Statist gonna statist.2001400ex said:
I'm in support of cutting waste and managing expenditures. I'm not in support of just cutting whole programs because groups disagree with the purpose (such as conservatives want all welfare programs gone and democrats wasn't too cut defense). I also think tax loopholes for the wealthy and corporations should be evaluated and some of them removed based on effectiveness.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Are you in support of a contraction of government then?2001400ex said:
Except the last balanced budget was under a democrat president and the largest deficit was under a Republican president. And the deficit has fallen faster under Obama than any other president. Ever.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Statists are statists. Democrats happen to be the leader in the clubhouse right now, with the cult of righteous personality, led by a secular divine-right Leviathan.2001400ex said:
Yeah it's all democrats fault. Republicans don't spend money. Ever. Just listen to their campaign they'll tell you. And the one time they do cut, it fucks everything up. See Kansas and the huge budget deficit.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
That was supposed to be paid for by other established means. Lack of accountability and transparency, irresponsible spending and no clue how to manage projects are the democrats fault, not the taxpayer. How bout we stop spending on pre-school and help fund bertha for one example, og countless others. Tolling was supposed to h e lp fund 520 ...where did that money go? It's fucking rediculous to impose crippling capital gains taxes. Sick of wasting tax money. New taxes will be wasted the same.MikeDamone said:
Muy Roads!!!OZONE said:Have to tax something.
How else is the state supposed to pay for the 520 construction and the Seattle tunnel construction that all of the construction companies are getting rich from? -
And now the Obamacare lies. We know they lied about the figures. We know those who signed up can't pay for it. We know those who can pay have to pay more and can't keep their doctor. We know that it isn't fully implemented and when it is it will be worse because employer coverage will disappear. We know that everything the opponents said is coming true and that Obama lied about everything
We know the Obama consultant admitted they lied because they had to fool the stupid voters like Honda.
For God's sake this tool is worse than the liberal idiots at eDuck. Every last lie and cliche in the obok and he thinks he's smart about it.
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Called you out on the fact you get back a shit ton from the government and live off welfare but still bitch that the government takes to much money from you. Geez keep up will ya.MikeDamone said:
Called me out on what? Jesus Christ. Yes, you're sources are "purely factual"... Because they fit your agenda. I do post shit. I post you're a government loving statist who wants to control people according to your beliefs. That's all.2001400ex said:
Yes I'm a partisan hack the posts information from purely factual resources. You don't post shit and race posts shit from CNS news. But I'm the partisan hack. Yup. Got me there. LOL you are just pissed cause i called you out.MikeDamone said:
Wtf'd because what the fuck? You're a special kind of retard with that response. One thing this thread really exposed is you're a partisan hack who loves government as long as it's doing things your personally agree with. Pretty much like every other goverment loving partisan hack.2001400ex said:
Lol Nice translation. What you just said is that you live on welfare and don't pay any taxes, get back a ton in earned income credit and still bitch that the government takes to much money from you.MikeDamone said:
So you think people in the government should evaluate if it is more "effective" to let people keep more of their money vs If the government took it from them? At least we know where you stand. Statist gonna statist.2001400ex said:
I'm in support of cutting waste and managing expenditures. I'm not in support of just cutting whole programs because groups disagree with the purpose (such as conservatives want all welfare programs gone and democrats wasn't too cut defense). I also think tax loopholes for the wealthy and corporations should be evaluated and some of them removed based on effectiveness.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Are you in support of a contraction of government then?2001400ex said:
Except the last balanced budget was under a democrat president and the largest deficit was under a Republican president. And the deficit has fallen faster under Obama than any other president. Ever.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Statists are statists. Democrats happen to be the leader in the clubhouse right now, with the cult of righteous personality, led by a secular divine-right Leviathan.2001400ex said:
Yeah it's all democrats fault. Republicans don't spend money. Ever. Just listen to their campaign they'll tell you. And the one time they do cut, it fucks everything up. See Kansas and the huge budget deficit.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
That was supposed to be paid for by other established means. Lack of accountability and transparency, irresponsible spending and no clue how to manage projects are the democrats fault, not the taxpayer. How bout we stop spending on pre-school and help fund bertha for one example, og countless others. Tolling was supposed to h e lp fund 520 ...where did that money go? It's fucking rediculous to impose crippling capital gains taxes. Sick of wasting tax money. New taxes will be wasted the same.MikeDamone said:
Muy Roads!!!OZONE said:Have to tax something.
How else is the state supposed to pay for the 520 construction and the Seattle tunnel construction that all of the construction companies are getting rich from? -
So it's a lie that millions more people are insured? It's a lie that three economy has increased and company profits are at an all time high? Wow. You are even dumber than I thought.RaceBannon said:And now the Obamacare lies. We know they lied about the figures. We know those who signed up can't pay for it. We know those who can pay have to pay more and can't keep their doctor. We know that it isn't fully implemented and when it is it will be worse because employer coverage will disappear. We know that everything the opponents said is coming true and that Obama lied about everything
We know the Obama consultant admitted they lied because they had to fool the stupid voters like Honda.
For God's sake this tool is worse than the liberal idiots at eDuck. Every last lie and cliche in the obok and he thinks he's smart about it.
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Yes I am
But still much smarter than you.
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*too2001400ex said:
Called you out on the fact you get back a shit ton from the government and live off welfare but still bitch that the government takes to much money from you. Geez keep up will ya.MikeDamone said:
Called me out on what? Jesus Christ. Yes, you're sources are "purely factual"... Because they fit your agenda. I do post shit. I post you're a government loving statist who wants to control people according to your beliefs. That's all.2001400ex said:
Yes I'm a partisan hack the posts information from purely factual resources. You don't post shit and race posts shit from CNS news. But I'm the partisan hack. Yup. Got me there. LOL you are just pissed cause i called you out.MikeDamone said:
Wtf'd because what the fuck? You're a special kind of retard with that response. One thing this thread really exposed is you're a partisan hack who loves government as long as it's doing things your personally agree with. Pretty much like every other goverment loving partisan hack.2001400ex said:
Lol Nice translation. What you just said is that you live on welfare and don't pay any taxes, get back a ton in earned income credit and still bitch that the government takes to much money from you.MikeDamone said:
So you think people in the government should evaluate if it is more "effective" to let people keep more of their money vs If the government took it from them? At least we know where you stand. Statist gonna statist.2001400ex said:
I'm in support of cutting waste and managing expenditures. I'm not in support of just cutting whole programs because groups disagree with the purpose (such as conservatives want all welfare programs gone and democrats wasn't too cut defense). I also think tax loopholes for the wealthy and corporations should be evaluated and some of them removed based on effectiveness.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Are you in support of a contraction of government then?2001400ex said:
Except the last balanced budget was under a democrat president and the largest deficit was under a Republican president. And the deficit has fallen faster under Obama than any other president. Ever.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Statists are statists. Democrats happen to be the leader in the clubhouse right now, with the cult of righteous personality, led by a secular divine-right Leviathan.2001400ex said:
Yeah it's all democrats fault. Republicans don't spend money. Ever. Just listen to their campaign they'll tell you. And the one time they do cut, it fucks everything up. See Kansas and the huge budget deficit.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
That was supposed to be paid for by other established means. Lack of accountability and transparency, irresponsible spending and no clue how to manage projects are the democrats fault, not the taxpayer. How bout we stop spending on pre-school and help fund bertha for one example, og countless others. Tolling was supposed to h e lp fund 520 ...where did that money go? It's fucking rediculous to impose crippling capital gains taxes. Sick of wasting tax money. New taxes will be wasted the same.MikeDamone said:
Muy Roads!!!OZONE said:Have to tax something.
How else is the state supposed to pay for the 520 construction and the Seattle tunnel construction that all of the construction companies are getting rich from?
Yeah...you got me all right. Jesus.
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Ouch. "I know you are but what an I?" Nice response. I expected more from you race. Don't you have some photoshopping to do?RaceBannon said:Yes I am
But still much smarter than you.
So there's that -
Exactly.MikeDamone said:
*too2001400ex said:
Called you out on the fact you get back a shit ton from the government and live off welfare but still bitch that the government takes to much money from you. Geez keep up will ya.MikeDamone said:
Called me out on what? Jesus Christ. Yes, you're sources are "purely factual"... Because they fit your agenda. I do post shit. I post you're a government loving statist who wants to control people according to your beliefs. That's all.2001400ex said:
Yes I'm a partisan hack the posts information from purely factual resources. You don't post shit and race posts shit from CNS news. But I'm the partisan hack. Yup. Got me there. LOL you are just pissed cause i called you out.MikeDamone said:
Wtf'd because what the fuck? You're a special kind of retard with that response. One thing this thread really exposed is you're a partisan hack who loves government as long as it's doing things your personally agree with. Pretty much like every other goverment loving partisan hack.2001400ex said:
Lol Nice translation. What you just said is that you live on welfare and don't pay any taxes, get back a ton in earned income credit and still bitch that the government takes to much money from you.MikeDamone said:
So you think people in the government should evaluate if it is more "effective" to let people keep more of their money vs If the government took it from them? At least we know where you stand. Statist gonna statist.2001400ex said:
I'm in support of cutting waste and managing expenditures. I'm not in support of just cutting whole programs because groups disagree with the purpose (such as conservatives want all welfare programs gone and democrats wasn't too cut defense). I also think tax loopholes for the wealthy and corporations should be evaluated and some of them removed based on effectiveness.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Are you in support of a contraction of government then?2001400ex said:
Except the last balanced budget was under a democrat president and the largest deficit was under a Republican president. And the deficit has fallen faster under Obama than any other president. Ever.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Statists are statists. Democrats happen to be the leader in the clubhouse right now, with the cult of righteous personality, led by a secular divine-right Leviathan.2001400ex said:
Yeah it's all democrats fault. Republicans don't spend money. Ever. Just listen to their campaign they'll tell you. And the one time they do cut, it fucks everything up. See Kansas and the huge budget deficit.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
That was supposed to be paid for by other established means. Lack of accountability and transparency, irresponsible spending and no clue how to manage projects are the democrats fault, not the taxpayer. How bout we stop spending on pre-school and help fund bertha for one example, og countless others. Tolling was supposed to h e lp fund 520 ...where did that money go? It's fucking rediculous to impose crippling capital gains taxes. Sick of wasting tax money. New taxes will be wasted the same.MikeDamone said:
Muy Roads!!!OZONE said:Have to tax something.
How else is the state supposed to pay for the 520 construction and the Seattle tunnel construction that all of the construction companies are getting rich from?
Yeah...you got me all right. Jesus. -
Race is playing chess, the guy that brags about his 13 year old ATV is playing checkers. Case closed.
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I didn't ask what I am, I agreed with your assessment that I am not smart. HTH2001400ex said:
Ouch. "I know you are but what an I?" Nice response. I expected more from you race. Don't you have some photoshopping to do?RaceBannon said:Yes I am
But still much smarter than you.
So there's that -
I think race is missing his queen. Mostly cause he's a faggot (75k) so taking his queen wasn't hard.MikeDamone said:Race is playing chess, the guy that brags about his 13 year old ATV is playing checkers. Case closed.
But really, you guys are full of shit and should be smarter than to believe that bullshit on daily caller, CNS, etc. Look at the actual facts. Then you wont be caught saying stupid shit like "Congress controls the purse strings" and "Obama spent $7 trillion" in the same fucking comment. Spread that shit out, will ya. -
BURN2001400ex said:
I think race is missing his queen. Mostly cause he's a faggot (75k) so taking his queen wasn't hard.MikeDamone said:Race is playing chess, the guy that brags about his 13 year old ATV is playing checkers. Case closed.
But really, you guys are full of shit and should be smarter than to believe that bullshit on daily caller, CNS, etc. Look at the actual facts. Then you wont be caught saying stupid shit like "Congress controls the purse strings" and "Obama spent $7 trillion" in the same fucking comment. Spread that shit out, will ya. -
Irony defined2001400ex said:
I think race is missing his queen. Mostly cause he's a faggot (75k) so taking his queen wasn't hard.MikeDamone said:Race is playing chess, the guy that brags about his 13 year old ATV is playing checkers. Case closed.
But really, you guys are full of shit and should be smarter than to believe that bullshit on daily caller, CNS, etc. Look at the actual facts. Then you wont be caught saying stupid shit like "Congress controls the purse strings" and "Obama spent $7 trillion" in the same fucking comment. Spread that shit out, will ya.
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Yup. One person in the thread is posting actual facts. Everyone else is posting political commentary. In other words,, bullshit.CuntWaffle said:
Irony defined2001400ex said:
I think race is missing his queen. Mostly cause he's a faggot (75k) so taking his queen wasn't hard.MikeDamone said:Race is playing chess, the guy that brags about his 13 year old ATV is playing checkers. Case closed.
But really, you guys are full of shit and should be smarter than to believe that bullshit on daily caller, CNS, etc. Look at the actual facts. Then you wont be caught saying stupid shit like "Congress controls the purse strings" and "Obama spent $7 trillion" in the same fucking comment. Spread that shit out, will ya.
