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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Hey the GOP has a women problem.

    Let’s solve it with Trump!

    RDS is a decent family man.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Doesn't change a thing. Dazzler types would still vote for him over a Conservative. As will the WSHW crowd. Unless the GOP candidate understands they're not winning without that vote.

    Dazzler isn't a swing vote. No need to reach out to the hard leftards. Not sure what WSHW stands for. Assuming the H is a typo for J then no republican is going to get a social justice warrior vote. You need to hammer home open borders, crime, inflation and energy prices. Even Snow probably has some doubts at to his 2020 vote that he keeps to himself. Trump has a better abortion stance than DeSantis from a swing woman voter standpoint.
    White Suburban Housewives. They voted Joey because Trump lost them. The polling for Trump with this group was horrific. He tried to turn it around but it was too late. Joey was the sympathetic nice safe vote by then.
    And that won't change this time either.
    You guys and your fucking pathetic housewives. Imagine being married to one of these psychopaths. Sounds like a bunch of bitches need some mansplaining.
    Spoken like someone who doesn’t understand how Trump lost the 2020. Do you think men still tell their wives how to vote?
    Tell us specifically how he lost it.
    He was underwater with White women.

    Exit polling had Joey winning women 57% to 42%.
    Trump won Men.
    But why did he lose them? Any idiot can recite stats.
    Quite the mystery.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    GOP has had a woman problem since long before Trump

    Women went big for Bill Clinton. Didn't give a shit about his personal life. Wanted abortion and government as big daddy

    GOP lost the midterms because of women

    Yup Trump was blameless in 2020. Good grief it’s amazing how none of you will see the light. He won women in 2016.

    Clinton wasn’t seen as detestable.

    #yeahbutstill
    Maybe stop melting down for a moment and address the topic
    Your melting down stuff is getting old Race. It’s akin to calling Trump supporters racists. No effect.

    Over 60% of likely voters in 2020 saw Joey as decent. Over 60% saw Trump as just the opposite.

    Now go ahead and pretend that that’s how RDS will be viewed.

    The GOP slaughtered Obama in the 2010 midterms. They did it again in 2012.

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,561 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    Why would women like 6 week Ron better?

    That’s not the question and you know it. Trump had a decency problem in 2020. Over 60% of likely voters thought so. I’ve yet to see where RDS has the same issue.

    Maybe a tape surfaces or some rando woman files a lawsuit. Or he starts calling women journalists names. There’s still tim.

    Six week Ron took a stand. Trump uses Leftist talking points thinking that he’s gonna escape Roe v Wade. Profile in courage. He’s not.
    For a lot of women, they may not support unlimited abortion but they have a real problem with 6 weeks. You could swing them with 15-20 weeks as reasonable. Ron isn't getting these votes. In their view, 6 weeks isn't a reasonable compromise and it wasn't intended to be one.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,662 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    Hey the GOP has a women problem.

    Let’s solve it with Trump!

    RDS is a decent family man.

    Trump wins rather easily without Covid fear porn. The suburb moms wanted more authoritarianism since we had do something!
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Hey the GOP has a women problem.

    Let’s solve it with Trump!

    RDS is a decent family man.

    Trump wins rather easily without Covid fear porn. The suburb moms wanted more authoritarianism since we had do something!
    I’m dying to hear your proof this would have been the case.

    Shutdown Ron managed COVID in FL even with all the slings and arrows from the Left and the corrupt media.

    He won a landslide victory.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,662 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Hey the GOP has a women problem.

    Let’s solve it with Trump!

    RDS is a decent family man.

    Trump wins rather easily without Covid fear porn. The suburb moms wanted more authoritarianism since we had do something!
    I’m dying to hear your proof this would have been the case.

    Shutdown Ron managed COVID in FL even with all the slings and arrows from the Left and the corrupt media.

    He won a landslide victory.
    Covid in 2020 was a vastly different voting issue than in 2022. You are better than that.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Hey the GOP has a women problem.

    Let’s solve it with Trump!

    RDS is a decent family man.

    Trump wins rather easily without Covid fear porn. The suburb moms wanted more authoritarianism since we had do something!
    I’m dying to hear your proof this would have been the case.

    Shutdown Ron managed COVID in FL even with all the slings and arrows from the Left and the corrupt media.

    He won a landslide victory.
    Covid in 2020 was a vastly different voting issue than in 2022. You are better than that.
    Weird that Trump wants to make it an issue for 2024 then.

    “Lockdown Ron.”

    He’s better than that.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    GOP has had a woman problem since long before Trump

    Women went big for Bill Clinton. Didn't give a shit about his personal life. Wanted abortion and government as big daddy

    GOP lost the midterms because of women

    Yup Trump was blameless in 2020. Good grief it’s amazing how none of you will see the light. He won women in 2016.

    Clinton wasn’t seen as detestable.

    #yeahbutstill
    Maybe stop melting down for a moment and address the topic
    Your melting down stuff is getting old Race. It’s akin to calling Trump supporters racists. No effect.

    Over 60% of likely voters in 2020 saw Joey as decent. Over 60% saw Trump as just the opposite.

    Now go ahead and pretend that that’s how RDS will be viewed.

    The GOP slaughtered Obama in the 2010 midterms. They did it again in 2012.

    I think DeSantis will be viewed as worse

    Facts are on my side

    You have the most crooked election in history on your side

    Your emotional outbursts are a meltdown

    Trump is a heavy favorite for the nomination

    Deal with it
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
    The GOP lost the midterms on abortion not Trump

    Nominating 6 week Ron seems dumb
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,662 Founders Club

    The GOP lost the midterms on abortion not Trump

    Nominating 6 week Ron seems dumb

    Yep. They lost 2020 on Covid. Ron won big in 2022 because he was right on Covid. But he wasn't right in lots of eyes in 2020. Timing matters here. Anti-abortion isn't suddenly going to become popular in 2024.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,728 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    Why would women like 6 week Ron better?

    That’s not the question and you know it. Trump had a decency problem in 2020. Over 60% of likely voters thought so. I’ve yet to see where RDS has the same issue.

    Maybe a tape surfaces or some rando woman files a lawsuit. Or he starts calling women journalists names. There’s still tim.

    Six week Ron took a stand. Trump uses Leftist talking points thinking that he’s gonna escape Roe v Wade. Profile in courage. He’s not.
    they haven't turned fake news and looney people loose on RDS yet with false allegations and made up law suits/charges. They will if he runs and he'll have the same problem.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
    Trump also told The Messenger that Republicans need to improve their messaging on abortion.

    "First of all, I'm a believer in the exceptions, right? And just as Ronald Reagan was a believer in the exceptions, but I'm a believer in the exceptions … the life of the mother, raping, and incest," Trump told the outlet.

    "The other thing I really believe is that the radicals are people that would have a baby destroyed, killed at the end of the ninth month or even after birth."

    Trump added that his Supreme Court nominees led to last year's overturning of Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion nationally.

    "What it did more than anything else is it gave us a tremendous power of negotiation, which we didn't have, the pro-life movement, a tremendous power of negotiation," he told The Messenger. "Now the pro-life movement has the power to negotiate a deal that's acceptable for them."

    Trump was reminded that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a six-week abortion restriction law.

    "Well, he has to do what he has to do," Trump said of DeSantis. "If you look at what DeSantis did, a lot of people don't even know if he knew what he was doing. But he signed six weeks, and many people within the pro-life movement feel that that was too harsh.

    "I'm looking at all alternatives. I'm looking at many alternatives. But I was able to get us to the table by terminating Roe v. Wade. That's the most important thing that's ever happened for the pro-life movement."
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052
    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Hey the GOP has a women problem.

    Let’s solve it with Trump!

    RDS is a decent family man.

    Trump wins rather easily without Covid fear porn. The suburb moms wanted more authoritarianism since we had do something!
    I’m dying to hear your proof this would have been the case.

    Shutdown Ron managed COVID in FL even with all the slings and arrows from the Left and the corrupt media.

    He won a landslide victory.
    Covid in 2020 was a vastly different voting issue than in 2022. You are better than that.
    Weird that Trump wants to make it an issue for 2024 then.

    “Lockdown Ron.”

    He’s better than that.
    Not all that bad of a campaign issue to bring back the moms whose kids are essentially two years behind in their education and probably a decade out of whack in their maturity.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
    Seems divisive




    Some of us have been saying this for awhile. If it worked to destroy Trump then why stop

    DeSantis is a possibly great governor but does this play? Adds to the book burning don't say gay fake narrative

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,561 Standard Supporter

    Seems divisive




    Some of us have been saying this for awhile. If it worked to destroy Trump then why stop

    DeSantis is a possibly great governor but does this play? Adds to the book burning don't say gay fake narrative

    If we got the federal government out of the student loan business and made it dischargeable in bankruptcy like Trump's business debts then we wouldn't have to regulate ethnic studies. They would then be a program that no private lender would make a loan based on future student earnings and the risk of the kids taking a runner on the debt once graduated or flunked out.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,447 Founders Club

    Seems divisive




    Some of us have been saying this for awhile. If it worked to destroy Trump then why stop

    DeSantis is a possibly great governor but does this play? Adds to the book burning don't say gay fake narrative

    "No no no. THIS tim the media will be different." - @46XiJCAB

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club

    Seems divisive




    Some of us have been saying this for awhile. If it worked to destroy Trump then why stop

    DeSantis is a possibly great governor but does this play? Adds to the book burning don't say gay fake narrative

    If we got the federal government out of the student loan business and made it dischargeable in bankruptcy like Trump's business debts then we wouldn't have to regulate ethnic studies. They would then be a program that no private lender would make a loan based on future student earnings and the risk of the kids taking a runner on the debt once graduated or flunked out.
    Voters have been pretty resistant to common sense

    I'm serious about what DeSantis is doing in Florida. It's been great.

    Not sure how it plays against the volume turned up to 11 nationally

    I'd rather have a DeSantis in Olympia than Trump in the white house
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
    A normal person might say - there are plenty of citizens sitting on their ass who could fill the gap. Democrats cheer truckers not delivering to Florida

    Empty shelves Biden was perfectly normal. Two days after a law was signed and the world is ending

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
    She has a Ukraine flag though
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    Trump also told The Messenger that Republicans need to improve their messaging on abortion.

    "First of all, I'm a believer in the exceptions, right? And just as Ronald Reagan was a believer in the exceptions, but I'm a believer in the exceptions … the life of the mother, raping, and incest," Trump told the outlet.

    "The other thing I really believe is that the radicals are people that would have a baby destroyed, killed at the end of the ninth month or even after birth."

    Trump added that his Supreme Court nominees led to last year's overturning of Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion nationally.

    "What it did more than anything else is it gave us a tremendous power of negotiation, which we didn't have, the pro-life movement, a tremendous power of negotiation," he told The Messenger. "Now the pro-life movement has the power to negotiate a deal that's acceptable for them."

    Trump was reminded that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a six-week abortion restriction law.

    "Well, he has to do what he has to do," Trump said of DeSantis. "If you look at what DeSantis did, a lot of people don't even know if he knew what he was doing. But he signed six weeks, and many people within the pro-life movement feel that that was too harsh.

    "I'm looking at all alternatives. I'm looking at many alternatives. But I was able to get us to the table by terminating Roe v. Wade. That's the most important thing that's ever happened for the pro-life movement."

    Trump is lying ask him to name two people within the pro-life movement that think 6 weeks is too harsh.

    He wants to have his cake and eat it too. Roe v Wade or 6-weeks there’s not a shit a bit of difference between the two if you’re pro-choice.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Hey the GOP has a women problem.

    Let’s solve it with Trump!

    RDS is a decent family man.

    Trump wins rather easily without Covid fear porn. The suburb moms wanted more authoritarianism since we had do something!
    I’m dying to hear your proof this would have been the case.

    Shutdown Ron managed COVID in FL even with all the slings and arrows from the Left and the corrupt media.

    He won a landslide victory.
    Covid in 2020 was a vastly different voting issue than in 2022. You are better than that.
    Weird that Trump wants to make it an issue for 2024 then.

    “Lockdown Ron.”

    He’s better than that.
    Not all that bad of a campaign issue to bring back the moms whose kids are essentially two years behind in their education and probably a decade out of whack in their maturity.

    How long was FL locked down again? He won in a landslide. It’s a none issue. Trump using leftists talking points. Sad.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    pawz said:

    Seems divisive




    Some of us have been saying this for awhile. If it worked to destroy Trump then why stop

    DeSantis is a possibly great governor but does this play? Adds to the book burning don't say gay fake narrative

    "No no no. THIS tim the media will be different." - @46XiJCAB

    If only I said that. It’s a good thing it will all be different with Trump this time around. It’s not like they don’t have more ammo that they did in 2020.

  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    A normal person might say - there are plenty of citizens sitting on their ass who could fill the gap. Democrats cheer truckers not delivering to Florida

    Empty shelves Biden was perfectly normal. Two days after a law was signed and the world is ending

    Sounds like plenty of job openings in FL.

    RDS creates more jobs in two days than Joey in two years.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited May 2023

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    GOP has had a woman problem since long before Trump

    Women went big for Bill Clinton. Didn't give a shit about his personal life. Wanted abortion and government as big daddy

    GOP lost the midterms because of women

    Yup Trump was blameless in 2020. Good grief it’s amazing how none of you will see the light. He won women in 2016.

    Clinton wasn’t seen as detestable.

    #yeahbutstill
    Maybe stop melting down for a moment and address the topic
    Your melting down stuff is getting old Race. It’s akin to calling Trump supporters racists. No effect.

    Over 60% of likely voters in 2020 saw Joey as decent. Over 60% saw Trump as just the opposite.

    Now go ahead and pretend that that’s how RDS will be viewed.

    The GOP slaughtered Obama in the 2010 midterms. They did it again in 2012.

    I think DeSantis will be viewed as worse

    Facts are on my side

    You have the most crooked election in history on your side

    Your emotional outbursts are a meltdown

    Trump is a heavy favorite for the nomination

    Deal with it
    Hey Race, check your mirror.

    Emotional meltdown guy is staring at you. You lose your shit over the slightest criticism of Trump.

    It’s weird.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    The GOP lost the midterms on abortion not Trump

    Nominating 6 week Ron seems dumb

    ^^^^^^This is funny^^^^^^.

    They retook the House despite all of the losers Trump endorsed. They lost the Senate because of said losers.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    GOP has had a woman problem since long before Trump

    Women went big for Bill Clinton. Didn't give a shit about his personal life. Wanted abortion and government as big daddy

    GOP lost the midterms because of women

    Yup Trump was blameless in 2020. Good grief it’s amazing how none of you will see the light. He won women in 2016.

    Clinton wasn’t seen as detestable.

    #yeahbutstill
    Maybe stop melting down for a moment and address the topic
    Your melting down stuff is getting old Race. It’s akin to calling Trump supporters racists. No effect.

    Over 60% of likely voters in 2020 saw Joey as decent. Over 60% saw Trump as just the opposite.

    Now go ahead and pretend that that’s how RDS will be viewed.

    The GOP slaughtered Obama in the 2010 midterms. They did it again in 2012.

    I think DeSantis will be viewed as worse

    Facts are on my side

    You have the most crooked election in history on your side

    Your emotional outbursts are a meltdown

    Trump is a heavy favorite for the nomination

    Deal with it
    Hey Race, check your mirror.

    Emotional meltdown guy is staring at you. You lose your shit over the slightest criticism of Trump.

    It’s weird.
    Except everyone knows that I don't
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    Trump also told The Messenger that Republicans need to improve their messaging on abortion.

    "First of all, I'm a believer in the exceptions, right? And just as Ronald Reagan was a believer in the exceptions, but I'm a believer in the exceptions … the life of the mother, raping, and incest," Trump told the outlet.

    "The other thing I really believe is that the radicals are people that would have a baby destroyed, killed at the end of the ninth month or even after birth."

    Trump added that his Supreme Court nominees led to last year's overturning of Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion nationally.

    "What it did more than anything else is it gave us a tremendous power of negotiation, which we didn't have, the pro-life movement, a tremendous power of negotiation," he told The Messenger. "Now the pro-life movement has the power to negotiate a deal that's acceptable for them."

    Trump was reminded that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a six-week abortion restriction law.

    "Well, he has to do what he has to do," Trump said of DeSantis. "If you look at what DeSantis did, a lot of people don't even know if he knew what he was doing. But he signed six weeks, and many people within the pro-life movement feel that that was too harsh.

    "I'm looking at all alternatives. I'm looking at many alternatives. But I was able to get us to the table by terminating Roe v. Wade. That's the most important thing that's ever happened for the pro-life movement."

    Trump is lying ask him to name two people within the pro-life movement that think 6 weeks is too harsh.

    He wants to have his cake and eat it too. Roe v Wade or 6-weeks there’s not a shit a bit of difference between the two if you’re pro-choice.
    Of course there is. Your boy fucked up and women will hate him more than Trump

    Sad
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    GOP has had a woman problem since long before Trump

    Women went big for Bill Clinton. Didn't give a shit about his personal life. Wanted abortion and government as big daddy

    GOP lost the midterms because of women

    Yup Trump was blameless in 2020. Good grief it’s amazing how none of you will see the light. He won women in 2016.

    Clinton wasn’t seen as detestable.

    #yeahbutstill
    Maybe stop melting down for a moment and address the topic
    Your melting down stuff is getting old Race. It’s akin to calling Trump supporters racists. No effect.

    Over 60% of likely voters in 2020 saw Joey as decent. Over 60% saw Trump as just the opposite.

    Now go ahead and pretend that that’s how RDS will be viewed.

    The GOP slaughtered Obama in the 2010 midterms. They did it again in 2012.

    I think DeSantis will be viewed as worse

    Facts are on my side

    You have the most crooked election in history on your side

    Your emotional outbursts are a meltdown

    Trump is a heavy favorite for the nomination

    Deal with it
    Hey Race, check your mirror.

    Emotional meltdown guy is staring at you. You lose your shit over the slightest criticism of Trump.

    It’s weird.
    Except everyone knows that I don't
    Clearly. That's why I started a thread on RDS signing the enhanced E-Verify laws in FL.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    Trump also told The Messenger that Republicans need to improve their messaging on abortion.

    "First of all, I'm a believer in the exceptions, right? And just as Ronald Reagan was a believer in the exceptions, but I'm a believer in the exceptions … the life of the mother, raping, and incest," Trump told the outlet.

    "The other thing I really believe is that the radicals are people that would have a baby destroyed, killed at the end of the ninth month or even after birth."

    Trump added that his Supreme Court nominees led to last year's overturning of Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion nationally.

    "What it did more than anything else is it gave us a tremendous power of negotiation, which we didn't have, the pro-life movement, a tremendous power of negotiation," he told The Messenger. "Now the pro-life movement has the power to negotiate a deal that's acceptable for them."

    Trump was reminded that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a six-week abortion restriction law.

    "Well, he has to do what he has to do," Trump said of DeSantis. "If you look at what DeSantis did, a lot of people don't even know if he knew what he was doing. But he signed six weeks, and many people within the pro-life movement feel that that was too harsh.

    "I'm looking at all alternatives. I'm looking at many alternatives. But I was able to get us to the table by terminating Roe v. Wade. That's the most important thing that's ever happened for the pro-life movement."

    Trump is lying ask him to name two people within the pro-life movement that think 6 weeks is too harsh.

    He wants to have his cake and eat it too. Roe v Wade or 6-weeks there’s not a shit a bit of difference between the two if you’re pro-choice.
    Of course there is. Your boy fucked up and women will hate him more than Trump

    Sad
    Keep telling yourself that Race. Trump bragging about his appointees to SCOTUS overturning Roe v. Wade clearly makes him more likeable to women.