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The fiscally conservative choice for 2024

RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,037 Founders Club
https://hoover.org/research/california-defaults-185-billion-debt-leaving-state-businesses-holding-bag

Little did California businesses know that they were cosigners on the state’s nearly $20 billion loan from the federal government that was used to cover California’s unemployment fund shortfall during the COVID pandemic. This ugly truth became apparent when the state recently decided to stop making payments on this loan. When a state defaults on its federal unemployment insurance loan, federal law requires that the state’s businesses repay the loan.
What makes this default even more egregious is that the stone-age-era IT system of the state’s Employment and Development Department (EDD) opened the floodgates to bad actors, permitting more than $30 billion in fraudulent unemployment claims during the pandemic. Those receiving fraudulent payments include incarcerated felons, a person impersonating a one-year-old, and a person impersonating Senator Dianne Feinstein. A single residential address received checks for around 60 separate individuals filing from that address.

This could have been avoided with a competent EDD. But this department’s performance has been deficient for decades, and California businesses, many of which are struggling, are left paying for blatant and costly mistakes that should and could have been solved years ago.

With an unpaid federal unemployment insurance loan, the federal government raises the unemployment insurance tax immediately by 0.3 percent on each business within the state, and an additional 0.3 percent each year after that until the loan is fully repaid. The normal federal unemployment insurance tax rate is 0.6 percent per year, which means that California businesses will be paying several multiples of the normal federal tax rate before the loan is retired.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/californias-governor-says-states-budget-deficit-has-grown-to-nearly-32-billion/

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California’s budget deficit has soared to nearly $32 billion, Gov. Gavin Newsom said Friday as he announced a plan that would cover the shortfall this year while potentially leaving the state with multibillion-dollar deficits in the future.

Newsom, a Democrat in his second term, proposed no major tax increases for individuals or spending cuts across the state’s most important programs, including those impacting public education, health care and homelessness. His plan would cut spending by about $10.6 billion — about $1 billion more than what he proposed in January — while covering the rest of the deficit through a combination of borrowing and delaying some spending while shifting other expenses to different sources.

California has a progressive tax system that relies on rich people, meaning it gets about half its revenues from just 1% of the population. When the economy is good, rich people pay more in taxes and revenues can soar quickly. When the economy is bad, they pay less and revenues can drop just as fast.

That’s why Newsom said it is common for future budgets to be unbalanced, especially during lean years. He also said Democrats, who control state government, have learned to use the volatile tax system to their advantage. Newsom’s plan would leave California with $37.2 billion in various savings accounts, money that he said could be used to balance future budgets.

“A progressive tax system allows us to stack away billions and billions of dollars for exactly this moment,” Newsom said.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,037 Founders Club
    When Newsom was running for re election

    https://nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-gov-newsom-unveils-historic-975-billion-budget-surplus-rcna28758

    SACRAMENTO, Calif. — California is entering the next budget year with a record-smashing surplus of nearly $100 billion, Gov. Gavin Newsom said Friday.

    Newsom unveiled a revised budget plan of just over $300 billion for the next fiscal year, the highest in state history and fueled by surging tax revenues. The state has collected $55 billion more in taxes than officials expected in January, leaving it with an estimated $97.5 billion surplus.

    That means Newsom, a Democrat, has tens of billions of dollars more to spend on new and existing initiatives as he seeks re-election in the fall. He plans additional spending to tackle the ongoing drought, to help more women get abortions in California and to offset rising costs of food, gas and other goods due to inflation.
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,591 Founders Club
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Doesn't change a thing. Dazzler types would still vote for him over a Conservative. As will the WSHW crowd. Unless the GOP candidate understands they're not winning without that vote.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,387 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    Doesn't change a thing. Dazzler types would still vote for him over a Conservative. As will the WSHW crowd. Unless the GOP candidate understands they're not winning without that vote.

    Dazzler isn't a swing vote. No need to reach out to the hard leftards. Not sure what WSHW stands for. Assuming the H is a typo for J then no republican is going to get a social justice warrior vote. You need to hammer home open borders, crime, inflation and energy prices. Even Snow probably has some doubts at to his 2020 vote that he keeps to himself. Trump has a better abortion stance than DeSantis from a swing woman voter standpoint.
  • georgiaduckgeorgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,040 Swaye's Wigwam
    Imagine if your company received half it's revenue from 1% of its customers. A solid company would do more to make those customers happy and make sure they don't go somewhere else.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    Doesn't change a thing. Dazzler types would still vote for him over a Conservative. As will the WSHW crowd. Unless the GOP candidate understands they're not winning without that vote.

    Dazzler isn't a swing vote. No need to reach out to the hard leftards. Not sure what WSHW stands for. Assuming the H is a typo for J then no republican is going to get a social justice warrior vote. You need to hammer home open borders, crime, inflation and energy prices. Even Snow probably has some doubts at to his 2020 vote that he keeps to himself. Trump has a better abortion stance than DeSantis from a swing woman voter standpoint.
    White Suburban Housewives. They voted Joey because Trump lost them. The polling for Trump with this group was horrific. He tried to turn it around but it was too late. Joey was the sympathetic nice safe vote by then.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,622
    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Doesn't change a thing. Dazzler types would still vote for him over a Conservative. As will the WSHW crowd. Unless the GOP candidate understands they're not winning without that vote.

    Dazzler isn't a swing vote. No need to reach out to the hard leftards. Not sure what WSHW stands for. Assuming the H is a typo for J then no republican is going to get a social justice warrior vote. You need to hammer home open borders, crime, inflation and energy prices. Even Snow probably has some doubts at to his 2020 vote that he keeps to himself. Trump has a better abortion stance than DeSantis from a swing woman voter standpoint.
    White Suburban Housewives. They voted Joey because Trump lost them. The polling for Trump with this group was horrific. He tried to turn it around but it was too late. Joey was the sympathetic nice safe vote by then.
    And that won't change this time either.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,387 Standard Supporter
    Goduckies said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Doesn't change a thing. Dazzler types would still vote for him over a Conservative. As will the WSHW crowd. Unless the GOP candidate understands they're not winning without that vote.

    Dazzler isn't a swing vote. No need to reach out to the hard leftards. Not sure what WSHW stands for. Assuming the H is a typo for J then no republican is going to get a social justice warrior vote. You need to hammer home open borders, crime, inflation and energy prices. Even Snow probably has some doubts at to his 2020 vote that he keeps to himself. Trump has a better abortion stance than DeSantis from a swing woman voter standpoint.
    White Suburban Housewives. They voted Joey because Trump lost them. The polling for Trump with this group was horrific. He tried to turn it around but it was too late. Joey was the sympathetic nice safe vote by then.
    And that won't change this time either.
    Not in less you scare the sh*t out of them. Virtue signaling with your peer group is much more satisfying if you think your moral preening doesn't cost you anything. Next thing you know a bus full of filthy illegals shows up on Martha's Vineyard and all hell breaks lose. Same with Sanctuary City NYC and Mayor Adams. Then all of a sudden it's their reality and they can't handle it.

  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,822 Founders Club
    Goduckies said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Doesn't change a thing. Dazzler types would still vote for him over a Conservative. As will the WSHW crowd. Unless the GOP candidate understands they're not winning without that vote.

    Dazzler isn't a swing vote. No need to reach out to the hard leftards. Not sure what WSHW stands for. Assuming the H is a typo for J then no republican is going to get a social justice warrior vote. You need to hammer home open borders, crime, inflation and energy prices. Even Snow probably has some doubts at to his 2020 vote that he keeps to himself. Trump has a better abortion stance than DeSantis from a swing woman voter standpoint.
    White Suburban Housewives. They voted Joey because Trump lost them. The polling for Trump with this group was horrific. He tried to turn it around but it was too late. Joey was the sympathetic nice safe vote by then.
    And that won't change this time either.
    You guys and your fucking pathetic housewives. Imagine being married to one of these psychopaths. Sounds like a bunch of bitches need some mansplaining.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Doesn't change a thing. Dazzler types would still vote for him over a Conservative. As will the WSHW crowd. Unless the GOP candidate understands they're not winning without that vote.

    Dazzler isn't a swing vote. No need to reach out to the hard leftards. Not sure what WSHW stands for. Assuming the H is a typo for J then no republican is going to get a social justice warrior vote. You need to hammer home open borders, crime, inflation and energy prices. Even Snow probably has some doubts at to his 2020 vote that he keeps to himself. Trump has a better abortion stance than DeSantis from a swing woman voter standpoint.
    White Suburban Housewives. They voted Joey because Trump lost them. The polling for Trump with this group was horrific. He tried to turn it around but it was too late. Joey was the sympathetic nice safe vote by then.
    And that won't change this time either.
    You guys and your fucking pathetic housewives. Imagine being married to one of these psychopaths. Sounds like a bunch of bitches need some mansplaining.
    Spoken like someone who doesn’t understand how Trump lost the 2020. Do you think men still tell their wives how to vote?
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,623 Swaye's Wigwam
    46XiJCAB said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Doesn't change a thing. Dazzler types would still vote for him over a Conservative. As will the WSHW crowd. Unless the GOP candidate understands they're not winning without that vote.

    Dazzler isn't a swing vote. No need to reach out to the hard leftards. Not sure what WSHW stands for. Assuming the H is a typo for J then no republican is going to get a social justice warrior vote. You need to hammer home open borders, crime, inflation and energy prices. Even Snow probably has some doubts at to his 2020 vote that he keeps to himself. Trump has a better abortion stance than DeSantis from a swing woman voter standpoint.
    White Suburban Housewives. They voted Joey because Trump lost them. The polling for Trump with this group was horrific. He tried to turn it around but it was too late. Joey was the sympathetic nice safe vote by then.
    And that won't change this time either.
    You guys and your fucking pathetic housewives. Imagine being married to one of these psychopaths. Sounds like a bunch of bitches need some mansplaining.
    Spoken like someone who doesn’t understand how Trump lost the 2020. Do you think men still tell their wives how to vote?
    Tell us specifically how he lost it.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,927
    edited May 2023
    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Doesn't change a thing. Dazzler types would still vote for him over a Conservative. As will the WSHW crowd. Unless the GOP candidate understands they're not winning without that vote.

    Dazzler isn't a swing vote. No need to reach out to the hard leftards. Not sure what WSHW stands for. Assuming the H is a typo for J then no republican is going to get a social justice warrior vote. You need to hammer home open borders, crime, inflation and energy prices. Even Snow probably has some doubts at to his 2020 vote that he keeps to himself. Trump has a better abortion stance than DeSantis from a swing woman voter standpoint.
    White Suburban Housewives. They voted Joey because Trump lost them. The polling for Trump with this group was horrific. He tried to turn it around but it was too late. Joey was the sympathetic nice safe vote by then.
    And that won't change this time either.
    You guys and your fucking pathetic housewives. Imagine being married to one of these psychopaths. Sounds like a bunch of bitches need some mansplaining.
    Spoken like someone who doesn’t understand how Trump lost the 2020. Do you think men still tell their wives how to vote?
    Tell us specifically how he lost it.
    The single biggest voting bloc out there is white women. Daddy clearly won that bloc in 2016; he either lost it or won it narrowly in 2020. But his loss of support amongst white women is more than enough to account for his loss in 2020.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,954 Standard Supporter
    6 million more votes than any incumbent in history. They didn't cheat big enough in 2016 but they cheated Yugely in 2020.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,927
    Sledog said:

    6 million more votes than any incumbent in history. They didn't cheat big enough in 2016 but they cheated Yugely in 2020.

    atta girl
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited May 2023
    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Doesn't change a thing. Dazzler types would still vote for him over a Conservative. As will the WSHW crowd. Unless the GOP candidate understands they're not winning without that vote.

    Dazzler isn't a swing vote. No need to reach out to the hard leftards. Not sure what WSHW stands for. Assuming the H is a typo for J then no republican is going to get a social justice warrior vote. You need to hammer home open borders, crime, inflation and energy prices. Even Snow probably has some doubts at to his 2020 vote that he keeps to himself. Trump has a better abortion stance than DeSantis from a swing woman voter standpoint.
    White Suburban Housewives. They voted Joey because Trump lost them. The polling for Trump with this group was horrific. He tried to turn it around but it was too late. Joey was the sympathetic nice safe vote by then.
    And that won't change this time either.
    You guys and your fucking pathetic housewives. Imagine being married to one of these psychopaths. Sounds like a bunch of bitches need some mansplaining.
    Spoken like someone who doesn’t understand how Trump lost the 2020. Do you think men still tell their wives how to vote?
    Tell us specifically how he lost it.
    He was underwater with White women.

    Exit polling had Joey winning women 57% to 42%.
    Trump won Men.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,954 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Doesn't change a thing. Dazzler types would still vote for him over a Conservative. As will the WSHW crowd. Unless the GOP candidate understands they're not winning without that vote.

    Dazzler isn't a swing vote. No need to reach out to the hard leftards. Not sure what WSHW stands for. Assuming the H is a typo for J then no republican is going to get a social justice warrior vote. You need to hammer home open borders, crime, inflation and energy prices. Even Snow probably has some doubts at to his 2020 vote that he keeps to himself. Trump has a better abortion stance than DeSantis from a swing woman voter standpoint.
    White Suburban Housewives. They voted Joey because Trump lost them. The polling for Trump with this group was horrific. He tried to turn it around but it was too late. Joey was the sympathetic nice safe vote by then.
    And that won't change this time either.
    You guys and your fucking pathetic housewives. Imagine being married to one of these psychopaths. Sounds like a bunch of bitches need some mansplaining.
    Spoken like someone who doesn’t understand how Trump lost the 2020. Do you think men still tell their wives how to vote?
    Tell us specifically how he lost it.
    He was underwater with White women.

    Exit polling had Joey winning women 57% to 42%.
    Trump won Men.
    Yeah cooked poll to cover the cheat. Polls said Trump in a landslide. The CHEAT won!
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,927
    Sledog said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Doesn't change a thing. Dazzler types would still vote for him over a Conservative. As will the WSHW crowd. Unless the GOP candidate understands they're not winning without that vote.

    Dazzler isn't a swing vote. No need to reach out to the hard leftards. Not sure what WSHW stands for. Assuming the H is a typo for J then no republican is going to get a social justice warrior vote. You need to hammer home open borders, crime, inflation and energy prices. Even Snow probably has some doubts at to his 2020 vote that he keeps to himself. Trump has a better abortion stance than DeSantis from a swing woman voter standpoint.
    White Suburban Housewives. They voted Joey because Trump lost them. The polling for Trump with this group was horrific. He tried to turn it around but it was too late. Joey was the sympathetic nice safe vote by then.
    And that won't change this time either.
    You guys and your fucking pathetic housewives. Imagine being married to one of these psychopaths. Sounds like a bunch of bitches need some mansplaining.
    Spoken like someone who doesn’t understand how Trump lost the 2020. Do you think men still tell their wives how to vote?
    Tell us specifically how he lost it.
    He was underwater with White women.

    Exit polling had Joey winning women 57% to 42%.
    Trump won Men.
    Yeah cooked poll to cover the cheat. Polls said Trump in a landslide. The CHEAT won!
    Quit hogging the tin foil, Mildred.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,954 Standard Supporter
    Well poofter it wasn't the actual vote. We know that. Those vote drops when no one is counting are telling a tale. You better get down to the Red Star lube and Colon Inspection Club pronto comrade!
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,623 Swaye's Wigwam
    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Goduckies said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Doesn't change a thing. Dazzler types would still vote for him over a Conservative. As will the WSHW crowd. Unless the GOP candidate understands they're not winning without that vote.

    Dazzler isn't a swing vote. No need to reach out to the hard leftards. Not sure what WSHW stands for. Assuming the H is a typo for J then no republican is going to get a social justice warrior vote. You need to hammer home open borders, crime, inflation and energy prices. Even Snow probably has some doubts at to his 2020 vote that he keeps to himself. Trump has a better abortion stance than DeSantis from a swing woman voter standpoint.
    White Suburban Housewives. They voted Joey because Trump lost them. The polling for Trump with this group was horrific. He tried to turn it around but it was too late. Joey was the sympathetic nice safe vote by then.
    And that won't change this time either.
    You guys and your fucking pathetic housewives. Imagine being married to one of these psychopaths. Sounds like a bunch of bitches need some mansplaining.
    Spoken like someone who doesn’t understand how Trump lost the 2020. Do you think men still tell their wives how to vote?
    Tell us specifically how he lost it.
    He was underwater with White women.

    Exit polling had Joey winning women 57% to 42%.
    Trump won Men.
    But why did he lose them? Any idiot can recite stats.
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