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Can we offer this Ukranian solider a scholarship?

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  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,410 Swaye's Wigwam

    I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on

    Losing men to homemade bombs

    Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillas

    The Iraqi military? Not so much
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,069 Standard Supporter

    I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on

    Losing men to homemade bombs

    Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillas

    The Iraqi military? Not so much
    No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited March 2023
    Z-Boy is jailing Orthodox Christians and closing churches as this thing rages on but one cares to report it.

    Let's get this thing to 100 pages.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,410 Swaye's Wigwam
    Sledog said:

    I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on

    Losing men to homemade bombs

    Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillas

    The Iraqi military? Not so much
    No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.

    Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?

    Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...

    I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,069 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on

    Losing men to homemade bombs

    Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillas

    The Iraqi military? Not so much
    No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.

    Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?

    Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...

    I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
    In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,442 Founders Club

    Sledog said:

    I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on

    Losing men to homemade bombs

    Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillas

    The Iraqi military? Not so much
    No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.

    Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?

    Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...

    I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on

    Losing men to homemade bombs

    Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillas

    The Iraqi military? Not so much
    No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.

    Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?

    Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...

    I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
    In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.
    PGOS almost gets it

    It's why I no longer want war even when I would like to see a country become a parking lot

    Because we won't. Afghanistan and Iraq were it for me
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    Sledog said:

    I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on

    Losing men to homemade bombs

    Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillas

    The Iraqi military? Not so much
    No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.

    Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?

    Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...

    I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on

    Losing men to homemade bombs

    Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillas

    The Iraqi military? Not so much
    No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.

    Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?

    Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...

    I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
    In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.
    PGOS almost gets it

    It's why I no longer want war even when I would like to see a country become a parking lot

    Because we won't. Afghanistan and Iraq were it for me
    When the lawyers and bureaucrats took over the rules of engagement, it was over as far as a military victory was concerned.
  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 19,900 Founders Club

    Sledog said:

    I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on

    Losing men to homemade bombs

    Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillas

    The Iraqi military? Not so much
    No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.

    Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?

    Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...

    I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on

    Losing men to homemade bombs

    Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillas

    The Iraqi military? Not so much
    No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.

    Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?

    Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...

    I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
    In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.
    PGOS almost gets it

    It's why I no longer want war even when I would like to see a country become a parking lot

    Because we won't. Afghanistan and Iraq were it for me
    #metoo

    Some of us? learn from our mistakes.

    Others think Putin is getting shredded.

    Hi @PostGameOrangeSlices !!

  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 19,900 Founders Club
    Bob_C said:
    Query for @PostGameOrangeSlices

    If as you claimed earlier that UKR soldiers are killing Russians at a 10:1 clip (something like that), why would UKR feel the need to "violently" recruit fighters?


  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    pawz said:

    Sledog said:

    I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on

    Losing men to homemade bombs

    Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillas

    The Iraqi military? Not so much
    No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.

    Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?

    Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...

    I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on

    Losing men to homemade bombs

    Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillas

    The Iraqi military? Not so much
    No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.

    Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?

    Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...

    I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
    In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.
    PGOS almost gets it

    It's why I no longer want war even when I would like to see a country become a parking lot

    Because we won't. Afghanistan and Iraq were it for me
    #metoo

    Some of us? learn from our mistakes.

    Others think Putin is getting shredded.

    Hi @PostGameOrangeSlices !!

    If we had a leader in the WH this war would have never happened.
  • BlueduckBlueduck Member Posts: 1,343
    edited March 2023
    Hard to tell what is truth but this is reported as Ukrainian recruiters grabbing people off the street.

    From Radio Free Europe



    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnw2Abqmu64
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,410 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited March 2023
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on

    Losing men to homemade bombs

    Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillas

    The Iraqi military? Not so much
    No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.

    Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?

    Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...

    I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
    In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.
    Iraq we did a decent job and that country is semi functioning after a few false starts.

    Obama fucked up with ISIS, but the Iraqi army eventually got it together and drove them out.

    Afghanistan and Vietnam we couldnt. Afghanistan youd need to quite literally level mountains, and Vietnam we had hands tied by not crossing NVA lines (and the jungle)

    All SNAFUs

    Ukraine wants to defend their land from a land grab. Its very different from US "Special Military Operations"
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,003 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on

    Losing men to homemade bombs

    Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillas

    The Iraqi military? Not so much
    No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.

    Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?

    Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...

    I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
    In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.
    Iraq we did a decent job and that country is semi functioning after a few false starts.

    Obama fucked up with ISIS, but the Iraqi army eventually got it together and drove them out.

    Afghanistan and Vietnam we couldnt. Afghanistan youd need to quite literally level mountains, and Vietnam we had hands tied by not crossing NVA lines (and the jungle)

    All SNAFUs

    Ukraine wants to defend their land from a land grab. Its very different from US "Special Military Operations"
    Iraq is more of a mess than when we invaded and Iran controls a bunch of the country. It wasn't a decent job. Regime change in Libya was another US Ivy League State Department phuck up. Much worse off than under Ghadafi unless you are into black slavery. So no war success since World War II, but the Ukraine will be different. You should post your Ukraine total destruction picture again to show us what victory looks like.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    When Ukraine was shredding Russian troops Z was in a position to talk peace and tell Putin to pull out the tip or his troops would be shown no mercy.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,521 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on

    Losing men to homemade bombs

    Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillas

    The Iraqi military? Not so much
    No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.

    Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?

    Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...

    I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
    In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.
    Iraq we did a decent job and that country is semi functioning after a few false starts.

    Obama fucked up with ISIS, but the Iraqi army eventually got it together and drove them out.

    Afghanistan and Vietnam we couldnt. Afghanistan youd need to quite literally level mountains, and Vietnam we had hands tied by not crossing NVA lines (and the jungle)

    All SNAFUs

    Ukraine wants to defend their land from a land grab. Its very different from US "Special Military Operations"
    A land grab that goes back to the 9th Century. Fucking regional squabble and they'll never peacefully co-exist.

    Not our circus.

    Your monkey.

    But but...Moldova!


  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,410 Swaye's Wigwam

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on

    Losing men to homemade bombs

    Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillas

    The Iraqi military? Not so much
    No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.

    Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?

    Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...

    I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
    In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.
    Iraq we did a decent job and that country is semi functioning after a few false starts.

    Obama fucked up with ISIS, but the Iraqi army eventually got it together and drove them out.

    Afghanistan and Vietnam we couldnt. Afghanistan youd need to quite literally level mountains, and Vietnam we had hands tied by not crossing NVA lines (and the jungle)

    All SNAFUs

    Ukraine wants to defend their land from a land grab. Its very different from US "Special Military Operations"
    Iraq is more of a mess than when we invaded and Iran controls a bunch of the country. It wasn't a decent job. Regime change in Libya was another US Ivy League State Department phuck up. Much worse off than under Ghadafi unless you are into black slavery. So no war success since World War II, but the Ukraine will be different. You should post your Ukraine total destruction picture again to show us what victory looks like.
    Disagree

    Iraq is much better now. Iran doesnt control any of it. There might be Shias but that doesnt mean it's Iran.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,003 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I missed the US curb stomping Iraq. Still there 20 years on

    Losing men to homemade bombs

    Its tuff to pacify Islamic extremists guerrillas

    The Iraqi military? Not so much
    No it's not. I have noticed they do absolutely nothing when they are dead.

    Yeah, and explain to me how you root out an insurgency while following humane Rules of Engagement?

    Because it's so easy, we shouldn't have had an issue in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan...

    I mean, we could go full Trail of Tears like its 1800 and place the populations in reservations?
    In WWII we didn't have these rules of engagement. You don't want to die get away from the fucking terrorists! We killed 250K allied civilians in the bombing of Europe. Regrettable but couldn't be avoided. Hitler killed MILLIONS. We either want to win or we want to drag shit out so money can be made.
    Iraq we did a decent job and that country is semi functioning after a few false starts.

    Obama fucked up with ISIS, but the Iraqi army eventually got it together and drove them out.

    Afghanistan and Vietnam we couldnt. Afghanistan youd need to quite literally level mountains, and Vietnam we had hands tied by not crossing NVA lines (and the jungle)

    All SNAFUs

    Ukraine wants to defend their land from a land grab. Its very different from US "Special Military Operations"
    Iraq is more of a mess than when we invaded and Iran controls a bunch of the country. It wasn't a decent job. Regime change in Libya was another US Ivy League State Department phuck up. Much worse off than under Ghadafi unless you are into black slavery. So no war success since World War II, but the Ukraine will be different. You should post your Ukraine total destruction picture again to show us what victory looks like.
    Disagree

    Iraq is much better now. Iran doesnt control any of it. There might be Shias but that doesnt mean it's Iran.
    Sure. Just a roaring success story. Doesn't mean it's Iran, but it's Iran.
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