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Yeah, we didn't borrow trillions. But somehow today our national debt is now $31.5 trillion and it was $28.5 trillion on February 26, 2020. Plus we have printed close to $6 trillion in money since covid hit. And what did we do with all that money? We sent checks (free sh*t) to almost everyone. So, once again, the $100 billion we sent to the Ukraine is a drop in the bucket and wasn't the impetus for some huge economic recovery from the chicom crud. Sales of arms to countries that will actually pay us back is an economic win for the US. The key is that the Ukraine is never going to pay us back for any loans. So, it's an economic loss.UW_Doog_Bot said:
"Sales of U.S. military equipment to foreign governments rose 49% to $205.6 billion in the latest fiscal year, the U.S. State Department said on Wednesday." Hth.WestlinnDuck said:
Giving sh*t away doesn't equal economic activity. We already borrowed trillions to give away. Another $100 billion doesn't fix the inflation problem, it increases the problem. Sure, some people make out, but the overall impact of free sh*t and government borrowing is that it edges out actual free market activity that helps both sides. If I borrowed $100,000 and gave it to you and you blew it on hookers and blow like Hunter, then you get what you wanted as do the hookers and drug dealers. But I was going to use that $100,000 to start a plumbing business and sell plumbing services and supplies. That is economic growth. Blowing money on free sh*t doesn't. When Pelosi said that food stamps improved the economy, it doesn't. Borrowing money so some overweight person can buy a frozen pizza from 7-11 isn't economic growth.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except I already did explain that defense exports literally took us out of a recession.WestlinnDuck said:"Russia will use nukes as an existential last resort not "tactically". That could mean anything. Like getting close to losing Crimea, now a part of Russia. Seems like an existential threat to Putin. Any other talk is a way to rattle the sabre of the US military complex. I've still not had anyone use facts to explain how this war is promoting direct US economic prosperity and border safety. The war is no threat to the US and if the Euros think it is a threat to them, then they could like step up. Team America, World Police.
So I did. You just ignore it because it's inconvenient to your narrative.
"No one's addressing the arguments I'm making except all the people that I'm not bothering to read!" Jfc.
At least @RaceBannon and I can disagree but still not swing away like fucking crying retards.
You have ignored some pretty basic Econ 101 principles because my question was "inconvenient". We could have put $100 billion of private equity into the US oil and gas industry and distribution and had some real economic growth but your focusing on funding the continued stealing from Ukrainians by Ukrainian theftocrats.
We didn't borrow trillions to give away. This is just FS.
We sent a bunch of old expiring hardware that had already been paid for not new equipment that shows up on fiscal year 2022. How does that get invested in Oil and Gas?
Sounds like you failed accounting 101 let alone any econ.
You really need to take some economics before sounding like the dementia patient and claim that Milton Friedman is no longer in charge. The point about oil and gas investment is that it is private money that is expected to be returned as loan repayments or investment earnings. The US printing money and borrowing raises the cost of private investing and thus competes for free market investment with government giveaways that are generally counter productive, like funding student loans for ethnic studies. Let's see if any of your fellow Team America World police want to jump on your illiterate take. -
Lol are you fucking Gnu here?WestlinnDuck said:
Yeah, we didn't borrow trillions. But somehow today our national debt is now $31.5 trillion and it was $28.5 trillion on February 26, 2020. Plus we have printed close to $6 trillion in money since covid hit. And what did we do with all that money? We sent checks (free sh*t) to almost everyone. So, once again, the $100 billion we sent to the Ukraine is a drop in the bucket and wasn't the impetus for some huge economic recovery from the chicom crud. Sales of arms to countries that will actually pay us back is an economic win for the US. The key is that the Ukraine is never going to pay us back for any loans. So, it's an economic loss.UW_Doog_Bot said:
"Sales of U.S. military equipment to foreign governments rose 49% to $205.6 billion in the latest fiscal year, the U.S. State Department said on Wednesday." Hth.WestlinnDuck said:
Giving sh*t away doesn't equal economic activity. We already borrowed trillions to give away. Another $100 billion doesn't fix the inflation problem, it increases the problem. Sure, some people make out, but the overall impact of free sh*t and government borrowing is that it edges out actual free market activity that helps both sides. If I borrowed $100,000 and gave it to you and you blew it on hookers and blow like Hunter, then you get what you wanted as do the hookers and drug dealers. But I was going to use that $100,000 to start a plumbing business and sell plumbing services and supplies. That is economic growth. Blowing money on free sh*t doesn't. When Pelosi said that food stamps improved the economy, it doesn't. Borrowing money so some overweight person can buy a frozen pizza from 7-11 isn't economic growth.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except I already did explain that defense exports literally took us out of a recession.WestlinnDuck said:"Russia will use nukes as an existential last resort not "tactically". That could mean anything. Like getting close to losing Crimea, now a part of Russia. Seems like an existential threat to Putin. Any other talk is a way to rattle the sabre of the US military complex. I've still not had anyone use facts to explain how this war is promoting direct US economic prosperity and border safety. The war is no threat to the US and if the Euros think it is a threat to them, then they could like step up. Team America, World Police.
So I did. You just ignore it because it's inconvenient to your narrative.
"No one's addressing the arguments I'm making except all the people that I'm not bothering to read!" Jfc.
At least @RaceBannon and I can disagree but still not swing away like fucking crying retards.
You have ignored some pretty basic Econ 101 principles because my question was "inconvenient". We could have put $100 billion of private equity into the US oil and gas industry and distribution and had some real economic growth but your focusing on funding the continued stealing from Ukrainians by Ukrainian theftocrats.
We didn't borrow trillions to give away. This is just FS.
We sent a bunch of old expiring hardware that had already been paid for not new equipment that shows up on fiscal year 2022. How does that get invested in Oil and Gas?
Sounds like you failed accounting 101 let alone any econ.
You really need to take some economics before sounding like the dementia patient and claim that Milton Friedman is no longer in charge. The point about oil and gas investment is that it is private money that is expected to be returned as loan repayments or investment earnings. The US printing money and borrowing raises the cost of private investing and thus competes for free market investment with government giveaways that are generally counter productive, like funding student loans for ethnic studies. Let's see if any of your fellow Team America World police want to jump on your illiterate take.
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Wildly swings about screeching about US debt to conflate the argument. Austerity! Sorry, not sorry, defense budgets might need cut but I'd argue this is the greatest $ per defense the US has gotten in decades. Maybe cut out current defense aid to the Middle East first.WestlinnDuck said:
Yeah, we didn't borrow trillions. But somehow today our national debt is now $31.5 trillion and it was $28.5 trillion on February 26, 2020. Plus we have printed close to $6 trillion in money since covid hit. And what did we do with all that money? We sent checks (free sh*t) to almost everyone. So, once again, the $100 billion we sent to the Ukraine is a drop in the bucket and wasn't the impetus for some huge economic recovery from the chicom crud. Sales of arms to countries that will actually pay us back is an economic win for the US. The key is that the Ukraine is never going to pay us back for any loans. So, it's an economic loss.UW_Doog_Bot said:
"Sales of U.S. military equipment to foreign governments rose 49% to $205.6 billion in the latest fiscal year, the U.S. State Department said on Wednesday." Hth.WestlinnDuck said:
Giving sh*t away doesn't equal economic activity. We already borrowed trillions to give away. Another $100 billion doesn't fix the inflation problem, it increases the problem. Sure, some people make out, but the overall impact of free sh*t and government borrowing is that it edges out actual free market activity that helps both sides. If I borrowed $100,000 and gave it to you and you blew it on hookers and blow like Hunter, then you get what you wanted as do the hookers and drug dealers. But I was going to use that $100,000 to start a plumbing business and sell plumbing services and supplies. That is economic growth. Blowing money on free sh*t doesn't. When Pelosi said that food stamps improved the economy, it doesn't. Borrowing money so some overweight person can buy a frozen pizza from 7-11 isn't economic growth.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except I already did explain that defense exports literally took us out of a recession.WestlinnDuck said:"Russia will use nukes as an existential last resort not "tactically". That could mean anything. Like getting close to losing Crimea, now a part of Russia. Seems like an existential threat to Putin. Any other talk is a way to rattle the sabre of the US military complex. I've still not had anyone use facts to explain how this war is promoting direct US economic prosperity and border safety. The war is no threat to the US and if the Euros think it is a threat to them, then they could like step up. Team America, World Police.
So I did. You just ignore it because it's inconvenient to your narrative.
"No one's addressing the arguments I'm making except all the people that I'm not bothering to read!" Jfc.
At least @RaceBannon and I can disagree but still not swing away like fucking crying retards.
You have ignored some pretty basic Econ 101 principles because my question was "inconvenient". We could have put $100 billion of private equity into the US oil and gas industry and distribution and had some real economic growth but your focusing on funding the continued stealing from Ukrainians by Ukrainian theftocrats.
We didn't borrow trillions to give away. This is just FS.
We sent a bunch of old expiring hardware that had already been paid for not new equipment that shows up on fiscal year 2022. How does that get invested in Oil and Gas?
Sounds like you failed accounting 101 let alone any econ.
You really need to take some economics before sounding like the dementia patient and claim that Milton Friedman is no longer in charge. The point about oil and gas investment is that it is private money that is expected to be returned as loan repayments or investment earnings. The US printing money and borrowing raises the cost of private investing and thus competes for free market investment with government giveaways that are generally counter productive, like funding student loans for ethnic studies. Let's see if any of your fellow Team America World police want to jump on your illiterate take.
You do realize that we didn't put $100B in cash on a plane and send it over right?
Most of the stuff being sent was earmarked on a budget from the time Reagan/Bush/Clinton were in office.
It's now doing what it was designed for, blowing up Russians. Even better it's being done with no American blood being spilled.
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It wasn't me that claimed that shipping arms and money to Ukraine was the reason for our limp economic recovery. "Except I already did explain that defense exports literally took us out of a recession." I said actual sales would benefit the economy. Give aways of anything don't help the economy.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Wildly swings about screeching about US debt to conflate the argument. Austerity! Sorry, not sorry, defense budgets might need cut but I'd argue this is the greatest $ per defense the US has gotten in decades. Maybe cut out current defense aid to the Middle East first.WestlinnDuck said:
Yeah, we didn't borrow trillions. But somehow today our national debt is now $31.5 trillion and it was $28.5 trillion on February 26, 2020. Plus we have printed close to $6 trillion in money since covid hit. And what did we do with all that money? We sent checks (free sh*t) to almost everyone. So, once again, the $100 billion we sent to the Ukraine is a drop in the bucket and wasn't the impetus for some huge economic recovery from the chicom crud. Sales of arms to countries that will actually pay us back is an economic win for the US. The key is that the Ukraine is never going to pay us back for any loans. So, it's an economic loss.UW_Doog_Bot said:
"Sales of U.S. military equipment to foreign governments rose 49% to $205.6 billion in the latest fiscal year, the U.S. State Department said on Wednesday." Hth.WestlinnDuck said:
Giving sh*t away doesn't equal economic activity. We already borrowed trillions to give away. Another $100 billion doesn't fix the inflation problem, it increases the problem. Sure, some people make out, but the overall impact of free sh*t and government borrowing is that it edges out actual free market activity that helps both sides. If I borrowed $100,000 and gave it to you and you blew it on hookers and blow like Hunter, then you get what you wanted as do the hookers and drug dealers. But I was going to use that $100,000 to start a plumbing business and sell plumbing services and supplies. That is economic growth. Blowing money on free sh*t doesn't. When Pelosi said that food stamps improved the economy, it doesn't. Borrowing money so some overweight person can buy a frozen pizza from 7-11 isn't economic growth.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except I already did explain that defense exports literally took us out of a recession.WestlinnDuck said:"Russia will use nukes as an existential last resort not "tactically". That could mean anything. Like getting close to losing Crimea, now a part of Russia. Seems like an existential threat to Putin. Any other talk is a way to rattle the sabre of the US military complex. I've still not had anyone use facts to explain how this war is promoting direct US economic prosperity and border safety. The war is no threat to the US and if the Euros think it is a threat to them, then they could like step up. Team America, World Police.
So I did. You just ignore it because it's inconvenient to your narrative.
"No one's addressing the arguments I'm making except all the people that I'm not bothering to read!" Jfc.
At least @RaceBannon and I can disagree but still not swing away like fucking crying retards.
You have ignored some pretty basic Econ 101 principles because my question was "inconvenient". We could have put $100 billion of private equity into the US oil and gas industry and distribution and had some real economic growth but your focusing on funding the continued stealing from Ukrainians by Ukrainian theftocrats.
We didn't borrow trillions to give away. This is just FS.
We sent a bunch of old expiring hardware that had already been paid for not new equipment that shows up on fiscal year 2022. How does that get invested in Oil and Gas?
Sounds like you failed accounting 101 let alone any econ.
You really need to take some economics before sounding like the dementia patient and claim that Milton Friedman is no longer in charge. The point about oil and gas investment is that it is private money that is expected to be returned as loan repayments or investment earnings. The US printing money and borrowing raises the cost of private investing and thus competes for free market investment with government giveaways that are generally counter productive, like funding student loans for ethnic studies. Let's see if any of your fellow Team America World police want to jump on your illiterate take.
You do realize that we didn't put $100B in cash on a plane and send it over right?
Most of the stuff being sent was earmarked on a budget from the time Reagan/Bush/Clinton were in office.
It's now doing what it was designed for, blowing up Russians. Even better it's being done with no American blood being spilled.
It wasn't me that said, "We didn't borrow trillions to give away. This is just FS."
So, we are back to the fact that we get no economic benefit for giving money and arms we will need to replace to Ukraine and we are back to blowing up Russians is Team America, World Police as virtue signaling while Ukraine is being destroyed. Sounds familiar. Rinse, lather and repeat. I'll wait for PGOS to come off the ropes and tell me again that backing the Ukraine is a good thing because it's a good thing. And then you can try again to explain how we are economically benefiting. -
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UW_Doog_Bot said:
Then tell me the difference. Go on.PurpleThrobber said:
Your words. Not mine.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So appeasement and isolationism. Got it.PurpleThrobber said:
Appease deez nuts.46XiJCAB said:
Public opinion is moving away from limitless support of Ukraine. Joey knows this which is why his twitter is on fire in an attempt to rekindle support. I guess there are more appeasers around the country then just we Tug Cons.RaceBannon said:This guy has always been honest about things
Call for a ceasefire Joey and peace negotiations. I've heard Ukraine is kicking ass and taken back nearly all of Putin's gains so now is the time.
We just don’t belong in that cesspool. We didn’t belong there before Putin invaded. But it was ok because Hunter and Romney’s kids were getting filthy rich and god knows what other corrupt and evil bullshit was going on.
But but Zelensky is a Jew.
Fuck that. So was Meyer Lanskey and Bugsy Siegel.
Mark you down in the corruption and graft crowd? Didn't see that coming.
Simply crying about defense spending isn't a serious position. Let's here the geopolitical take.
And yeah, I've been talking about differentiating the graft and corruption from what makes sense. We should be emptying our expiring goods to the foodbank. There's also always pork. I'd have that convo if the peanut gallery could manage it.
"Putin has nukes! If we send mortars it's WW3! Solemani!" Seriously, some TF clones in here.
I've always been a hawk. Big swinging dick deterence and laughing while your enemies engage in a land battle in Eurasia.
This is the Throbbers position on any intervention in foreign affairs.
And, no, not willing to die for Ukraine. Not even close.
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I guarantee our old shit will kill new Chinese and Russian shit. Still useful if the shit hits the fan. Where are the embedded reporters? Why are there no regular news footage of Ukraine/ Russia? Something smells.UW_Doog_Bot said:
"Sales of U.S. military equipment to foreign governments rose 49% to $205.6 billion in the latest fiscal year, the U.S. State Department said on Wednesday." Hth.WestlinnDuck said:
Giving sh*t away doesn't equal economic activity. We already borrowed trillions to give away. Another $100 billion doesn't fix the inflation problem, it increases the problem. Sure, some people make out, but the overall impact of free sh*t and government borrowing is that it edges out actual free market activity that helps both sides. If I borrowed $100,000 and gave it to you and you blew it on hookers and blow like Hunter, then you get what you wanted as do the hookers and drug dealers. But I was going to use that $100,000 to start a plumbing business and sell plumbing services and supplies. That is economic growth. Blowing money on free sh*t doesn't. When Pelosi said that food stamps improved the economy, it doesn't. Borrowing money so some overweight person can buy a frozen pizza from 7-11 isn't economic growth.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except I already did explain that defense exports literally took us out of a recession.WestlinnDuck said:"Russia will use nukes as an existential last resort not "tactically". That could mean anything. Like getting close to losing Crimea, now a part of Russia. Seems like an existential threat to Putin. Any other talk is a way to rattle the sabre of the US military complex. I've still not had anyone use facts to explain how this war is promoting direct US economic prosperity and border safety. The war is no threat to the US and if the Euros think it is a threat to them, then they could like step up. Team America, World Police.
So I did. You just ignore it because it's inconvenient to your narrative.
"No one's addressing the arguments I'm making except all the people that I'm not bothering to read!" Jfc.
At least @RaceBannon and I can disagree but still not swing away like fucking crying retards.
You have ignored some pretty basic Econ 101 principles because my question was "inconvenient". We could have put $100 billion of private equity into the US oil and gas industry and distribution and had some real economic growth but your focusing on funding the continued stealing from Ukrainians by Ukrainian theftocrats.
We didn't borrow trillions to give away. This is just FS.
We sent a bunch of old expiring hardware that had already been paid for not new equipment that shows up on fiscal year 2022. How does that get invested in Oil and Gas?
Sounds like you failed accounting 101 let alone any econ. -
Except Nato donations to Ukraine meant Nato countries buying billions more in defense from US defense suppliers.WestlinnDuck said:
It wasn't me that claimed that shipping arms and money to Ukraine was the reason for our limp economic recovery. "Except I already did explain that defense exports literally took us out of a recession." I said actual sales would benefit the economy. Give aways of anything don't help the economy.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Wildly swings about screeching about US debt to conflate the argument. Austerity! Sorry, not sorry, defense budgets might need cut but I'd argue this is the greatest $ per defense the US has gotten in decades. Maybe cut out current defense aid to the Middle East first.WestlinnDuck said:
Yeah, we didn't borrow trillions. But somehow today our national debt is now $31.5 trillion and it was $28.5 trillion on February 26, 2020. Plus we have printed close to $6 trillion in money since covid hit. And what did we do with all that money? We sent checks (free sh*t) to almost everyone. So, once again, the $100 billion we sent to the Ukraine is a drop in the bucket and wasn't the impetus for some huge economic recovery from the chicom crud. Sales of arms to countries that will actually pay us back is an economic win for the US. The key is that the Ukraine is never going to pay us back for any loans. So, it's an economic loss.UW_Doog_Bot said:
"Sales of U.S. military equipment to foreign governments rose 49% to $205.6 billion in the latest fiscal year, the U.S. State Department said on Wednesday." Hth.WestlinnDuck said:
Giving sh*t away doesn't equal economic activity. We already borrowed trillions to give away. Another $100 billion doesn't fix the inflation problem, it increases the problem. Sure, some people make out, but the overall impact of free sh*t and government borrowing is that it edges out actual free market activity that helps both sides. If I borrowed $100,000 and gave it to you and you blew it on hookers and blow like Hunter, then you get what you wanted as do the hookers and drug dealers. But I was going to use that $100,000 to start a plumbing business and sell plumbing services and supplies. That is economic growth. Blowing money on free sh*t doesn't. When Pelosi said that food stamps improved the economy, it doesn't. Borrowing money so some overweight person can buy a frozen pizza from 7-11 isn't economic growth.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except I already did explain that defense exports literally took us out of a recession.WestlinnDuck said:"Russia will use nukes as an existential last resort not "tactically". That could mean anything. Like getting close to losing Crimea, now a part of Russia. Seems like an existential threat to Putin. Any other talk is a way to rattle the sabre of the US military complex. I've still not had anyone use facts to explain how this war is promoting direct US economic prosperity and border safety. The war is no threat to the US and if the Euros think it is a threat to them, then they could like step up. Team America, World Police.
So I did. You just ignore it because it's inconvenient to your narrative.
"No one's addressing the arguments I'm making except all the people that I'm not bothering to read!" Jfc.
At least @RaceBannon and I can disagree but still not swing away like fucking crying retards.
You have ignored some pretty basic Econ 101 principles because my question was "inconvenient". We could have put $100 billion of private equity into the US oil and gas industry and distribution and had some real economic growth but your focusing on funding the continued stealing from Ukrainians by Ukrainian theftocrats.
We didn't borrow trillions to give away. This is just FS.
We sent a bunch of old expiring hardware that had already been paid for not new equipment that shows up on fiscal year 2022. How does that get invested in Oil and Gas?
Sounds like you failed accounting 101 let alone any econ.
You really need to take some economics before sounding like the dementia patient and claim that Milton Friedman is no longer in charge. The point about oil and gas investment is that it is private money that is expected to be returned as loan repayments or investment earnings. The US printing money and borrowing raises the cost of private investing and thus competes for free market investment with government giveaways that are generally counter productive, like funding student loans for ethnic studies. Let's see if any of your fellow Team America World police want to jump on your illiterate take.
You do realize that we didn't put $100B in cash on a plane and send it over right?
Most of the stuff being sent was earmarked on a budget from the time Reagan/Bush/Clinton were in office.
It's now doing what it was designed for, blowing up Russians. Even better it's being done with no American blood being spilled.
It wasn't me that said, "We didn't borrow trillions to give away. This is just FS."
So, we are back to the fact that we get no economic benefit for giving money and arms we will need to replace to Ukraine and we are back to blowing up Russians is Team America, World Police as virtue signaling while Ukraine is being destroyed. Sounds familiar. Rinse, lather and repeat. I'll wait for PGOS to come off the ropes and tell me again that backing the Ukraine is a good thing because it's a good thing. And then you can try again to explain how we are economically benefiting.
You seem to lack a basic ability to follow. Let me help, we doubled our sales of weapons to countries not named Ukraine. Not loans, sales. -
False binary.PurpleThrobber said:UW_Doog_Bot said:
Then tell me the difference. Go on.PurpleThrobber said:
Your words. Not mine.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So appeasement and isolationism. Got it.PurpleThrobber said:
Appease deez nuts.46XiJCAB said:
Public opinion is moving away from limitless support of Ukraine. Joey knows this which is why his twitter is on fire in an attempt to rekindle support. I guess there are more appeasers around the country then just we Tug Cons.RaceBannon said:This guy has always been honest about things
Call for a ceasefire Joey and peace negotiations. I've heard Ukraine is kicking ass and taken back nearly all of Putin's gains so now is the time.
We just don’t belong in that cesspool. We didn’t belong there before Putin invaded. But it was ok because Hunter and Romney’s kids were getting filthy rich and god knows what other corrupt and evil bullshit was going on.
But but Zelensky is a Jew.
Fuck that. So was Meyer Lanskey and Bugsy Siegel.
Mark you down in the corruption and graft crowd? Didn't see that coming.
Simply crying about defense spending isn't a serious position. Let's here the geopolitical take.
And yeah, I've been talking about differentiating the graft and corruption from what makes sense. We should be emptying our expiring goods to the foodbank. There's also always pork. I'd have that convo if the peanut gallery could manage it.
"Putin has nukes! If we send mortars it's WW3! Solemani!" Seriously, some TF clones in here.
I've always been a hawk. Big swinging dick deterence and laughing while your enemies engage in a land battle in Eurasia.
This is the Throbbers position on any intervention in foreign affairs.
And, no, not willing to die for Ukraine. Not even close.
That's also isolationism in a nutshell. If it isn't the US then do nothing. Tell me how it isn't.
There's about ten thousand shades between sending troops to die and doing nothing.
Help spell out where exactly on that line you fall. Should the US stop selling Ukraine goods entirely? Use your own words, not a tweet if you can.
