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If Medicare for all is such a slick no brainer

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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181
    I'm not missing your point at all. Your argument is essentially that all of the money really belongs to the government. And that there is no difference between tax dollars and private dollars. And that confiscating what is currently spent privately by individuals and adding it to what is currently spent by the government will give Medical coverage to all.

    Btw, how much of what people spend on healthcare in this country is on behalf of things like cosmetic surgery, and lasik surgery? Is that part of the $34 trillion in healthcare spending?

    Also, I kind of like my healthcare coverage and when I look at the kind of coverage offered my Medicaid I don't want anything to do with that kind of medical care. Will people on Medicaid be brought up to the same level of care I currently have or will my care be brought down to their level of care? And if they are to be brought up, what will that do to the cost? To bring them up to my level of coverage is going to cost a hell of lot more than what the government currently pays to cover Medicaid recipients.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    I'm not missing your point at all. Your argument is essentially that all of the money really belongs to the government. And that there is no difference between tax dollars and private dollars. And that confiscating what is currently spent privately by individuals and adding it to what is currently spent by the government will give Medical coverage to all.

    Btw, how much of what people spend on healthcare in this country is on behalf of things like cosmetic surgery, and lasik surgery? Is that part of the $34 trillion in healthcare spending?

    Also, I kind of like my healthcare coverage and when I look at the kind of coverage offered my Medicaid I don't want anything to do with that kind of medical care. Will people on Medicaid be brought up to the same level of care I currently have or will my care be brought down to their level of care? And if they are to be brought up, what will that do to the cost? To bring them up to my level of coverage is going to cost a hell of lot more than what the government currently pays to cover Medicaid recipients.

    No. That's not the argument. At. All.

    BTW. No one is advocating Medicaid for all. Dumbfuck
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181
    Poor reading comprehension from Hondo.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,840
    SFGbob said:

    Baaaaaaaack Track. Yeah, blame me because you stuck your head up your ass and proclaimed the 10% to be made up of "fucked up" people.

    So now you're back to admitting that the 10% consists of mostly people aren't poor but just chose not to purchase health insurance for some reason. So then why do we have to change our entire healthcare system where 90% of the people have some form of coverage for the 10% who don't?

    And fuck you with your "spelled out" bullshit. You were clearly claiming that the 10% consisted almost entirely of these supposedly "fucked up" people when the reality is that those people are already covered by Medicaid.
    Baaaaaaaaaaaack track. Like I said before, you go from rigid deductive reasoning to inductive guessing whenever the mood suits you. Fuck off with that. You don't have any fucking idea what I "meant", much less is your version of it clear. It clearly wasn't clear you butt fuck because you were fucking wrong. Again. As usual.

    You're a classic prick. You want to reduce everything to a moral failing to make you feel better about your miserably mediocre circumstances. So you assume motive to me and others than you're just imagining or making up, like Obama's draft dodging. I clearly said that the reasons for the 10% are infinite and range from the obvious to the subtle. Were those words too big for your white trash brain?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181

    Baaaaaaaaaaaack track. Like I said before, you go from rigid deductive reasoning to inductive guessing whenever the mood suits you. Fuck off with that. You don't have any fucking idea what I "meant", much less is your version of it clear. It clearly wasn't clear you butt fuck because you were fucking wrong. Again. As usual.

    You're a classic prick. You want to reduce everything to a moral failing to make you feel better about your miserably mediocre circumstances. So you assume motive to me and others than you're just imagining or making up, like Obama's draft dodging. I clearly said that the reasons for the 10% are infinite and range from the obvious to the subtle. Were those words too big for your white trash brain?
    Yeah, here you are clearly saying that the 10% consisted of people who aren't poor but who chose not to purchase health insurance.

    As to your stupid question, it might help if you didn't complicate things so much. The 10% don't do what the rest of us do because they're fucked up you moron; and a lot of them will always be fucked up. The reasons why are infinite and range from the obvious to the subtle. There's no devil, just brain chemistry. Everybody but you, apparently, seems to know this. Whether to deal with them, insure them, step over them in the street or just accept that we're already indirectly paying for them is a matter of personal philosophy.

    Fucking lying piece of shit.

    The people who you initially claimed were part of the 10% are already covered dumb fuck. None of the people you initially described are part of the 10%. I don't need to guess Kunt, you talked straight out of your fucking ass, got caught doing so, back tracked like a mother fucker and are now lying about it.




  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181
    So Coug, why would you claim that the 10% of people who are uninsured are "fucked up" people and then go onto describe people who aren't part of the 10%?

    If someone chooses not to purchase health insurance are they "fucked up" and will they "always be fucked up?"

    Cue the Kunt act.



  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    So Coug, why would you claim that the 10% of people who are uninsured are "fucked up" people and then go onto describe people who aren't part of the 10%?

    If someone chooses not to purchase health insurance are they "fucked up" and will they "always be fucked up?"

    Cue the Kunt act.



    He already discussed those questions. But you're obsession and lack of reading comprehension is noted.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181
    2001400ex said:

    He already discussed those questions. But you're obsession and lack of reading comprehension is noted.
    Isn't that cute, Hondo offering board genius Coug some cover.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    Isn't that cute, Hondo offering board genius Coug some cover.
    Just pointing you the answers to your questions.
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,274
    Gaybob seems upset.

    lol
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181
    Naaaah, I'm having a great time.
  • RubberfistRubberfist Member Posts: 1,373


    I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,003 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    Yeah, you're too smart for me Flea. That "orange slice" crack was devastating. I don't believe I'll ever be able to recover. Whenever you want to deal in substance you let me know, and I'll hand you your ignorant ass.

    You better give your pal Coug an ass tonguing. He just claimed poor people are covered by Medicaid.

    Actually, it was pretty fucking funny. But I guess you would have to lead a miserable and pathetic life on these boreds for the last 15 years to understand his dry humor.

    Also, in another thread you finally earned the Donkey-bomb from him. So yore moving up in the world. You have that going for you. Which is nice.


    @dflea
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,212 Swaye's Wigwam



    I’m sure our healthcare outcomes are FAR superior to the countries behind us in this chart.

    Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?



    I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.

    Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Is that because private individuals are wasting money or because the government is wasting money?



    I love that all of the socialists like to pretend the US has a purely capitalist system when the argument is about how inefficient the current system is.

    Intervene in the market, distort the market, blame the market, call for more intervention, rinse and repeat.
    I agree with you. But if I read that chart right. It shows that through 2007, public expenditures are less than private. No?
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,212 Swaye's Wigwam
    2001400ex said:

    I agree with you. But if I read that chart right. It shows that through 2007, public expenditures are less than private. No?
    *sigh* The point is that public expenditures are a Yuge part of our system. The fact that they make up around 50% of the market tells you just what a "free" market it is. A pure free market should have 0% public expenditures.

    C'mon Hondo, it's NOT hard.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,212 Swaye's Wigwam
    And further, part of why I like to use the historical numbers, is because you can see how sharply spending (both public and private) took off exactly when the government entered the market in 1965. There's also sharp increases with the various passages of each version of medicare.

    If your argument is that our current system is inefficient, there is strong correlated evidence that government spending, and the crowding out it causes the private sector, is what is driving those inefficiencies. Keep blaming the private sector for the increasing failings of an increasingly socialist system. It's the socialist playbook.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    *sigh* The point is that public expenditures are a Yuge part of our system. The fact that they make up around 50% of the market tells you just what a "free" market it is. A pure free market should have 0% public expenditures.

    C'mon Hondo, it's NOT hard.
    Well then what you are saying is, half the market is already government ran, is not a big stretch to make the entire system government ran.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    And further, part of why I like to use the historical numbers, is because you can see how sharply spending (both public and private) took off exactly when the government entered the market in 1965. There's also sharp increases with the various passages of each version of medicare.

    If your argument is that our current system is inefficient, there is strong correlated evidence that government spending, and the crowding out it causes the private sector, is what is driving those inefficiencies. Keep blaming the private sector for the increasing failings of an increasingly socialist system. It's the socialist playbook.


    I'd like to see the chart through 2017.

    I'd also like to see GDP through 2017 as well.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,212 Swaye's Wigwam
    2001400ex said:


    I'd like to see the chart through 2017.

    I'd also like to see GDP through 2017 as well.
    komo4buttfucker, it's not hard. I believe government spending exceeded private in the last few years but I could be wrong.
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