If Medicare for all is such a slick no brainer
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Status quo politics
Say you’re going to do something, then don’t. But then blame the other side on why it isn’t happening. That has been the platform for both parties since I can remember. -
I asked the question the other day and of course not a single liberal Kunt responded although Flea did show us all his ass.
According to liberals today medical care is a "right." Can someone please identify any other "rights" that require other people to pay for them?
And why are we going to destroy the entire health insurance industry to provide coverage to the 10% of the people who have no health insurance coverage?
Why can't those 10% do what the rest of us do in order to secure health insurance? Why are we going to tear up the entire system in order to provide coverage for this 10%? -
Build that Wall baby.greenblood said:Status quo politics
Say you’re going to do something, then don’t. But then blame the other side on why it isn’t happening. That has been the platform for both parties since I can remember. -
You get no response because you ask stupid fucking questions that don't make sense.SFGbob said:I asked the question the other day and of course not a single liberal Kunt responded although Flea did show us all his ass.
According to liberals today medical care is a "right." Can someone please identify any other "rights" that require other people to pay for them?
And why are we going to destroy the entire health insurance industry to provide coverage to the 10% of the people who have no health insurance coverage?
Why can't those 10% do what the rest of us do in order to secure health insurance? Why are we going to tear up the entire system in order to provide coverage for this 10%? -
Angry Hondo is best Hondo
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CrustyvajDawg claims great wealth lets just take his shit and get health care!
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Naaah I get no responses from dumbfucks like you because you're stupid and you think an on-line Fox News poll is significant.2001400ex said:
You get no response because you ask stupid fucking questions that don't make sense.SFGbob said:I asked the question the other day and of course not a single liberal Kunt responded although Flea did show us all his ass.
According to liberals today medical care is a "right." Can someone please identify any other "rights" that require other people to pay for them?
And why are we going to destroy the entire health insurance industry to provide coverage to the 10% of the people who have no health insurance coverage?
Why can't those 10% do what the rest of us do in order to secure health insurance? Why are we going to tear up the entire system in order to provide coverage for this 10%?
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Because the Democratic donor class called
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Why should we get rid of private health insurance in order to cover 10% of the public who don't have health insurance?HardlyClothed said:Because the Democratic donor class called
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Trump isn't a Republican2001400ex said:
Build that Wall baby.greenblood said:Status quo politics
Say you’re going to do something, then don’t. But then blame the other side on why it isn’t happening. That has been the platform for both parties since I can remember. -
Why do you post illogical fallacies?SFGbob said:
Why should we get rid of private health insurance in order to cover 10% of the public who don't have health insurance?HardlyClothed said:Because the Democratic donor class called
Do you understand that going to Medicare for all would be cheaper for everyone as a whole?
Do you understand that there would still be a private insurance option?
Do you understand, that as awful as the government is. I'd rather have them making my health decision than a for profit insurance company?
Do you understand that VA comparisons and long waiting lines are bullshit propaganda put out by insurance companies and conservatives to fool ignorant people like you?
Do you understand that the majority of the public actually want Medicare for all?
Do you understand the reason the majority of the public wants it is because most people would save money and most people are fed up dealing with insurance companies? -
Yes, yes Hondo. It's going to save all us a boat load of money just like Obamacare did. Hondo you love swallowing like a bitch, I get it. Most of us don't.
If you think that providing everyone with "free" healthcare isn't going to raise taxes and increasing waiting times then you're stupider than I could have ever believed and Hondo I think you're one stupid motherfucker. -
Btw, got to love how Hondo thinks that Government run healthcare is going to be better than private healthcare. We have the DMV, the post office, the IRS and scores of other government run programs including the VA to look at in judge for ourselves just how well the government can run things, but Hondo believes that it's just insurance companies and conservative propaganda to think the government will run healthcare about as well as they run these programs.
Talk to me again about who the ignorant one here is Hondo.
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Good for you! JFC, could you be any more insecure and deluded? People don't respond to you because they can't keep up with your volume you weird fucking dope. You're not overwhelmingly smart ... at all; you're just fucking exhausting. But keep up your delusion that it's because we? can't handle your intellectual depth and agility. LOLSFGbob said:I asked the question the other day and of course not a single liberal Kunt responded although Flea did show us all his ass.
According to liberals today medical care is a "right." Can someone please identify any other "rights" that require other people to pay for them?
And why are we going to destroy the entire health insurance industry to provide coverage to the 10% of the people who have no health insurance coverage?
Why can't those 10% do what the rest of us do in order to secure health insurance? Why are we going to tear up the entire system in order to provide coverage for this 10%?
As to your stupid question, it might help if you didn't complicate things so much. The 10% don't do what the rest of us do because they're fucked up you moron; and a lot of them will always be fucked up. The reasons why are infinite and range from the obvious to the subtle. There's no devil, just brain chemistry. Everybody but you, apparently, seems to know this. Whether to deal with them, insure them, step over them in the street or just accept that we're already indirectly paying for them is a matter of personal philosophy.
And I'm pretty confident there's not a single person in the Tug who has a handle on how to fold the 10% in with the 90% and structure a health care system that works for everybody. The entire country has struggled with it for years and both parties have failed miserably in their attempts. So I'm pretty sure you don't have the first fucking clue.
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Oh Fuck right off with this bullshit.2001400ex said:
Why do you post illogical fallacies?SFGbob said:
Why should we get rid of private health insurance in order to cover 10% of the public who don't have health insurance?HardlyClothed said:Because the Democratic donor class called
Do you understand that going to Medicare for all would be cheaper for everyone as a whole?
Do you understand that there would still be a private insurance option?
Do you understand, that as awful as the government is. I'd rather have them making my health decision than a for profit insurance company?
Do you understand that VA comparisons and long waiting lines are bullshit propaganda put out by insurance companies and conservatives to fool ignorant people like you?
Do you understand that the majority of the public actually want Medicare for all?
Do you understand the reason the majority of the public wants it is because most people would save money and most people are fed up dealing with insurance companies?
NONE of your #clockworkshill promises materialized. But here you are #rightontim with the same shit.
You should buy a flamethrower, and put it in your mouth. Seriously. -
Let me translate:SFGbob said:I asked the question the other day and of course not a single liberal Kunt responded although Flea did show us all his ass.
According to liberals today medical care is a "right." Can someone please identify any other "rights" that require other people to pay for them?
And why are we going to destroy the entire health insurance industry to provide coverage to the 10% of the people who have no health insurance coverage?
Why can't those 10% do what the rest of us do in order to secure health insurance? Why are we going to tear up the entire system in order to provide coverage for this 10%?
I woke up the other day looking for something to snivel like a little fucking girl about - and I found it!
So I came to HH, where I spend my whole pitiful life arguing politics with Hondo, to cry like a bitch.
'flea clowned me for being the drippy cunt I am after I demanded an explanation from the liberals, so now I'm going to cry about that.
lol
What a goat.
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Really? So none of those 10% are people who are self-employed or young people they are just really "fucked up" people. Gosh I wish I could be smart like you.
And all this time I thought these really "fucked up" people, who of course you don't identify but for the sake of argument I'm going to assume they are poor and unemployed, were already covered by Medicaid.
But then again, I'm not smart like you. You believe that the 10% of uninsured people in the US are all homeless, poor people who aren't covered by Medicaid.
Yeah, you're a fucking genius. -
Yeah, you're too smart for me Flea. That "orange slice" crack was devastating. I don't believe I'll ever be able to recover. Whenever you want to deal in substance you let me know, and I'll hand you your ignorant ass.dflea said:
Let me translate:SFGbob said:I asked the question the other day and of course not a single liberal Kunt responded although Flea did show us all his ass.
According to liberals today medical care is a "right." Can someone please identify any other "rights" that require other people to pay for them?
And why are we going to destroy the entire health insurance industry to provide coverage to the 10% of the people who have no health insurance coverage?
Why can't those 10% do what the rest of us do in order to secure health insurance? Why are we going to tear up the entire system in order to provide coverage for this 10%?
I woke up the other day looking for something to snivel like a little fucking girl about - and I found it!
So I came to HH, where I spend my whole pitiful life arguing politics with Hondo, to cry like a bitch.
'flea clowned me for being the drippy cunt I am after I demanded an explanation from the liberals, so now I'm going to cry about that.
lol
What a goat.
You better give your pal Coug an ass tonguing. He just claimed poor people are covered by Medicaid. -
I don’t know, why did I say she was a moderate and I’d support Trump over her before this happened?sarktastic said:Why has Kamala Harris already abandoned it before the preseason even starts?
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Some of us don't think it's a right. But we know that single payer is more efficient than the health insurance industry and, frankly, some people are dead weight under any system. We'll pay either way.SFGbob said:I asked the question the other day and of course not a single liberal Kunt responded although Flea did show us all his ass.
According to liberals today medical care is a "right." Can someone please identify any other "rights" that require other people to pay for them?
And why are we going to destroy the entire health insurance industry to provide coverage to the 10% of the people who have no health insurance coverage?
Why can't those 10% do what the rest of us do in order to secure health insurance? Why are we going to tear up the entire system in order to provide coverage for this 10%? -
Unless you support a program that will bankrupt the country you're a "moderate."
And yes I understand your Kunt logic argument about "taxpayers" currently paying for their own healthcare therefore it won't cost us anymore if the Federal government just picks up the entire tab. -
How exactly would a program that costs 32 trillion over 10 years bankrupt the country when we’re already projected to spend 34 trillion?
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Yep, current health spending would cost more over 10 years because of the insurance and pharma middlemen vultures. But that spending is good because it makes health execs rich and then they donate to the GOP and centrist Dems.allpurpleallgold said:How exactly would a program that costs 32 trillion over 10 years bankrupt the country when we’re already projected to spend 34 trillion?
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Define efficient.
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Who said free healthcare? Are you autistic or some shit? Medicare for all would be increasing the Medicare tax rate. Anyone who thinks anyone is said it's free is fucktarded.SFGbob said:Yes, yes Hondo. It's going to save all us a boat load of money just like Obamacare did. Hondo you love swallowing like a bitch, I get it. Most of us don't.
If you think that providing everyone with "free" healthcare isn't going to raise taxes and increasing waiting times then you're stupider than I could have ever believed and Hondo I think you're one stupid motherfucker.
And how do you think there would be longer waiting lines? Hospitals would still operate as businesses, and most are non profits already. In our system, they would still have to maintain a service or people will go to another hospital. The insurance system that pays for it has zero bearing on the wait line. Dumbfuck. -
Oh, yeah. I forgot. You need everything spelled out for you in categorical terms so you don't make an idiot of yourself.SFGbob said:Really? So none of those 10% are people who are self-employed or young people they are just really "fucked up" people. Gosh I wish I could be smart like you.
And all this time I thought these really "fucked up" people, who of course you don't identify but for the sake of argument I'm going to assume they are poor and unemployed, were already covered by Medicaid.
But then again, I'm not smart like you. You believe that the 10% of uninsured people in the US are all homeless, poor people who aren't covered by Medicaid.
Yeah, you're a fucking genius.
Addendum to my last post: some of the 10% are employed and not homeless or suffering from some addiction or mental illness or condition that makes them uninsurable. Most of those people are uninsured because they can't afford it.
For the dip shit who needs it spelled out so he doesn't get confused, there are people who are employed, make enough $, don't have mental issues or suffer from other problems who just don't fucking feel like having health insurance. Let's make healthcare policy with those people squarely in focus.
Is that better Sally? You're the one who asked, "why can't they do what we do?" I gave you an answer. The clear-thinking and able want coverage and pay for it if they can swing it. Either way, we pay for the care of the uninsured anyway.
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https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20110920.013390/full/WestlinnDuck said:Define efficient.
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That last sentence is the part the simple minded don't get. They say it, with comments like "the laws say we have to treat people regardless in the ER". They don't make the correlation that the people with medical insurance are the ones who pay for that already. They also say that the ER is the most expensive care. But they don't make the correlation that if those people had a path to see a doctor before they need the ER, it would save everyone money.creepycoug said:
Oh, yeah. I forgot. You need everything spelled out for you in categorical terms so you don't make an idiot of yourself.SFGbob said:Really? So none of those 10% are people who are self-employed or young people they are just really "fucked up" people. Gosh I wish I could be smart like you.
And all this time I thought these really "fucked up" people, who of course you don't identify but for the sake of argument I'm going to assume they are poor and unemployed, were already covered by Medicaid.
But then again, I'm not smart like you. You believe that the 10% of uninsured people in the US are all homeless, poor people who aren't covered by Medicaid.
Yeah, you're a fucking genius.
Addendum to my last post: some of the 10% are employed and not homeless or suffering from some addiction or mental illness or condition that makes them uninsurable. Most of those people are uninsured because they can't afford it.
For the dip shit who needs it spelled out so he doesn't get confused, there are people who are employed, make enough $, don't have mental issues or suffer from other problems who just don't fucking feel like having health insurance. Let's make healthcare policy with those people squarely in focus.
Is that better Sally? You're the one who asked, "why can't they do what we do?" I gave you an answer. The clear-thinking and able want coverage and pay for it if they can swing it. Either way, we pay for the care of the uninsured anyway. -
We are projected to spend $34 trillion in tax dollars over the next 10 years?allpurpleallgold said:How exactly would a program that costs 32 trillion over 10 years bankrupt the country when we’re already projected to spend 34 trillion?
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As soon as it is explained to people that Medicare for all would require them to pay higher taxes support for the program drops like a rock. And yes plenty of parasites see single payer Government run healthcare as "free" healthcare.2001400ex said:
Who said free healthcare? Are you autistic or some shit? Medicare for all would be increasing the Medicare tax rate. Anyone who thinks anyone is said it's free is fucktarded.SFGbob said:Yes, yes Hondo. It's going to save all us a boat load of money just like Obamacare did. Hondo you love swallowing like a bitch, I get it. Most of us don't.
If you think that providing everyone with "free" healthcare isn't going to raise taxes and increasing waiting times then you're stupider than I could have ever believed and Hondo I think you're one stupid motherfucker.
And how do you think there would be longer waiting lines? Hospitals would still operate as businesses, and most are non profits already. In our system, they would still have to maintain a service or people will go to another hospital. The insurance system that pays for it has zero bearing on the wait line. Dumbfuck.
