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Trey Lowe to RB needs to happen in the worst kind of way
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Beavers and Wellington that bad or options behind them that bad? Shouldn’t someone be held accountable for this.... 🤣Dennis_DeYoung said:
If we play that team and some of the younger players start to emerge I think we will be 11-1.sarktastic said:Looks like 7-5?
Glad that at least we’re winning thru the rebuild after Sark.
Sure hope recruiting starts to catch a gear while Peterman gets his own guys in here. Can’t wait until we’re competing for Championships, again. -
I think this is the message in recruiting and is why we have trouble closing some top level DE talent. (In addition to our coach recruiting acumen at that position). A lot of top level DE's don't want to hear they are going to be playing contain football as a priority first.Dennis_DeYoung said:
People disappointed with Benning are missing the point of what he's supposed to do. He has basically four responsibilities:bananasnblondes said:Saw the dawgman lazy ass depth chart yesterday and noticed that all they did was take the current depth chart and delete the seniors and guys expected to leave.
Really hoping that some of the rs freshmen and sophomores step up. Those were the classes where the talent really started to level up.
Another year of Benning at buck makes me want to chop my dick off, but then again, maybe he has a Mathis-like jump his senior year.
1. Collapse the pocket without allowing the QB to escape
2. Set the edge on runs
3. Get sacks
4. Cover in flats
Our entire defense is predicated on 1-2. 3 and 4 would be great, but they are above and beyond what's fundamental.
Right now Benning goes in the category of: solid, unspectacular.
He is doing what he's supposed to do, but doesn't make any plays in the pass game (although he's made a couple in the run game). We will level up when we get guys who can do all 3, but again - the key is - our defense is designed to be containment oriented and as such, Benning is doing a good—not great—job.
I hope he can figure out how to get off blocks like the rest of all of us, but I also recognize that he's constantly trying to make sure he doesn't Ryan Bowman-it and get past his guy on the way to the QB only to completely distort the purpose of the defense and give the QB an easy running/passing lane where they have the advantage.
In the pass game I would give Benning a C and in the run game an A-. It would be nice to have Kikaha back, but for that we'd have to actually figure out how to a) identify talent and b) recruit it.
I suspect Tryon will be a beast next year. -
If they are elite players they will get sacks. Kikaha was a play maker and had the stats in this defense to back that up.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I think this is the message in recruiting and is why we have trouble closing some top level DE talent. (In addition to our coach recruiting acumen at that position). A lot of top level DE's don't want to hear they are going to be playing contain football as a priority first.Dennis_DeYoung said:
People disappointed with Benning are missing the point of what he's supposed to do. He has basically four responsibilities:bananasnblondes said:Saw the dawgman lazy ass depth chart yesterday and noticed that all they did was take the current depth chart and delete the seniors and guys expected to leave.
Really hoping that some of the rs freshmen and sophomores step up. Those were the classes where the talent really started to level up.
Another year of Benning at buck makes me want to chop my dick off, but then again, maybe he has a Mathis-like jump his senior year.
1. Collapse the pocket without allowing the QB to escape
2. Set the edge on runs
3. Get sacks
4. Cover in flats
Our entire defense is predicated on 1-2. 3 and 4 would be great, but they are above and beyond what's fundamental.
Right now Benning goes in the category of: solid, unspectacular.
He is doing what he's supposed to do, but doesn't make any plays in the pass game (although he's made a couple in the run game). We will level up when we get guys who can do all 3, but again - the key is - our defense is designed to be containment oriented and as such, Benning is doing a good—not great—job.
I hope he can figure out how to get off blocks like the rest of all of us, but I also recognize that he's constantly trying to make sure he doesn't Ryan Bowman-it and get past his guy on the way to the QB only to completely distort the purpose of the defense and give the QB an easy running/passing lane where they have the advantage.
In the pass game I would give Benning a C and in the run game an A-. It would be nice to have Kikaha back, but for that we'd have to actually figure out how to a) identify talent and b) recruit it.
I suspect Tryon will be a beast next year. -
Agree, I've been saying this from the beginning. Even had some doogs dismiss this concept.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I think this is the message in recruiting and is why we have trouble closing some top level DE talent. (In addition to our coach recruiting acumen at that position). A lot of top level DE's don't want to hear they are going to be playing contain football as a priority first.Dennis_DeYoung said:
People disappointed with Benning are missing the point of what he's supposed to do. He has basically four responsibilities:bananasnblondes said:Saw the dawgman lazy ass depth chart yesterday and noticed that all they did was take the current depth chart and delete the seniors and guys expected to leave.
Really hoping that some of the rs freshmen and sophomores step up. Those were the classes where the talent really started to level up.
Another year of Benning at buck makes me want to chop my dick off, but then again, maybe he has a Mathis-like jump his senior year.
1. Collapse the pocket without allowing the QB to escape
2. Set the edge on runs
3. Get sacks
4. Cover in flats
Our entire defense is predicated on 1-2. 3 and 4 would be great, but they are above and beyond what's fundamental.
Right now Benning goes in the category of: solid, unspectacular.
He is doing what he's supposed to do, but doesn't make any plays in the pass game (although he's made a couple in the run game). We will level up when we get guys who can do all 3, but again - the key is - our defense is designed to be containment oriented and as such, Benning is doing a good—not great—job.
I hope he can figure out how to get off blocks like the rest of all of us, but I also recognize that he's constantly trying to make sure he doesn't Ryan Bowman-it and get past his guy on the way to the QB only to completely distort the purpose of the defense and give the QB an easy running/passing lane where they have the advantage.
In the pass game I would give Benning a C and in the run game an A-. It would be nice to have Kikaha back, but for that we'd have to actually figure out how to a) identify talent and b) recruit it.
I suspect Tryon will be a beast next year.
Buck-type recruits will investigate their role, investigate how they will be potentially used in Petersen's defense.
Once they hear "seal the edge ... containment ... prevent the qb from getting outside and funnel the action through the middle and collapse the field so an opportunistic backer and secondary can take advantage ... Discipline!"
That shit doesn't appeal to croots as much as "coach pete says he'll green light me to just go out there and destroy the quarterback!"
Elite croots typically run the show on the field in high school.
Hearing the message from Washington that says "if you come to Washington you have to buy into the program and if you do what we tell you to do the overall defense will be successful and thus you will be successful."
Takes a mature, slow strategy kid to appreciate that right away. -
It's sales. Close or fuck off.animate said:
Agree, I've been saying this from the beginning. Even had some doogs dismiss this concept.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I think this is the message in recruiting and is why we have trouble closing some top level DE talent. (In addition to our coach recruiting acumen at that position). A lot of top level DE's don't want to hear they are going to be playing contain football as a priority first.Dennis_DeYoung said:
People disappointed with Benning are missing the point of what he's supposed to do. He has basically four responsibilities:bananasnblondes said:Saw the dawgman lazy ass depth chart yesterday and noticed that all they did was take the current depth chart and delete the seniors and guys expected to leave.
Really hoping that some of the rs freshmen and sophomores step up. Those were the classes where the talent really started to level up.
Another year of Benning at buck makes me want to chop my dick off, but then again, maybe he has a Mathis-like jump his senior year.
1. Collapse the pocket without allowing the QB to escape
2. Set the edge on runs
3. Get sacks
4. Cover in flats
Our entire defense is predicated on 1-2. 3 and 4 would be great, but they are above and beyond what's fundamental.
Right now Benning goes in the category of: solid, unspectacular.
He is doing what he's supposed to do, but doesn't make any plays in the pass game (although he's made a couple in the run game). We will level up when we get guys who can do all 3, but again - the key is - our defense is designed to be containment oriented and as such, Benning is doing a good—not great—job.
I hope he can figure out how to get off blocks like the rest of all of us, but I also recognize that he's constantly trying to make sure he doesn't Ryan Bowman-it and get past his guy on the way to the QB only to completely distort the purpose of the defense and give the QB an easy running/passing lane where they have the advantage.
In the pass game I would give Benning a C and in the run game an A-. It would be nice to have Kikaha back, but for that we'd have to actually figure out how to a) identify talent and b) recruit it.
I suspect Tryon will be a beast next year.
Buck-type recruits will investigate their role, investigate how they will be potentially used in Petersen's defense.
Once they hear "seal the edge ... containment ... prevent the qb from getting outside and funnel the action through the middle and collapse the field so an opportunistic backer and secondary can take advantage ... Discipline!"
That shit doesn't appeal to croots as much as "coach pete says he'll green light me to just go out there and destroy the quarterback!"
Elite croots typically run the show on the field in high school.
Hearing the message from Washington that says "if you come to Washington you have to buy into the program and if you do what we tell you to do the overall defense will be successful and thus you will be successful."
Takes a mature, slow strategy kid to appreciate that right away. -
True, but to a FS kid there's no fucking way Gregory is selling a Volvo Wagon over a Maserati. No one is without lying their ass off, which Pete would never allow.Dennis_DeYoung said:
It's sales. Close or fuck off.animate said:
Agree, I've been saying this from the beginning. Even had some doogs dismiss this concept.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I think this is the message in recruiting and is why we have trouble closing some top level DE talent. (In addition to our coach recruiting acumen at that position). A lot of top level DE's don't want to hear they are going to be playing contain football as a priority first.Dennis_DeYoung said:
People disappointed with Benning are missing the point of what he's supposed to do. He has basically four responsibilities:bananasnblondes said:Saw the dawgman lazy ass depth chart yesterday and noticed that all they did was take the current depth chart and delete the seniors and guys expected to leave.
Really hoping that some of the rs freshmen and sophomores step up. Those were the classes where the talent really started to level up.
Another year of Benning at buck makes me want to chop my dick off, but then again, maybe he has a Mathis-like jump his senior year.
1. Collapse the pocket without allowing the QB to escape
2. Set the edge on runs
3. Get sacks
4. Cover in flats
Our entire defense is predicated on 1-2. 3 and 4 would be great, but they are above and beyond what's fundamental.
Right now Benning goes in the category of: solid, unspectacular.
He is doing what he's supposed to do, but doesn't make any plays in the pass game (although he's made a couple in the run game). We will level up when we get guys who can do all 3, but again - the key is - our defense is designed to be containment oriented and as such, Benning is doing a good—not great—job.
I hope he can figure out how to get off blocks like the rest of all of us, but I also recognize that he's constantly trying to make sure he doesn't Ryan Bowman-it and get past his guy on the way to the QB only to completely distort the purpose of the defense and give the QB an easy running/passing lane where they have the advantage.
In the pass game I would give Benning a C and in the run game an A-. It would be nice to have Kikaha back, but for that we'd have to actually figure out how to a) identify talent and b) recruit it.
I suspect Tryon will be a beast next year.
Buck-type recruits will investigate their role, investigate how they will be potentially used in Petersen's defense.
Once they hear "seal the edge ... containment ... prevent the qb from getting outside and funnel the action through the middle and collapse the field so an opportunistic backer and secondary can take advantage ... Discipline!"
That shit doesn't appeal to croots as much as "coach pete says he'll green light me to just go out there and destroy the quarterback!"
Elite croots typically run the show on the field in high school.
Hearing the message from Washington that says "if you come to Washington you have to buy into the program and if you do what we tell you to do the overall defense will be successful and thus you will be successful."
Takes a mature, slow strategy kid to appreciate that right away. -
It's sales. It. Is. Sales. It's sales.UW_Doog_Bot said:
True, but to a FS kid there's no fucking way Gregory is selling a Volvo Wagon over a Maserati. No one is without lying their ass off, which Pete would never allow.Dennis_DeYoung said:
It's sales. Close or fuck off.animate said:
Agree, I've been saying this from the beginning. Even had some doogs dismiss this concept.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I think this is the message in recruiting and is why we have trouble closing some top level DE talent. (In addition to our coach recruiting acumen at that position). A lot of top level DE's don't want to hear they are going to be playing contain football as a priority first.Dennis_DeYoung said:
People disappointed with Benning are missing the point of what he's supposed to do. He has basically four responsibilities:bananasnblondes said:Saw the dawgman lazy ass depth chart yesterday and noticed that all they did was take the current depth chart and delete the seniors and guys expected to leave.
Really hoping that some of the rs freshmen and sophomores step up. Those were the classes where the talent really started to level up.
Another year of Benning at buck makes me want to chop my dick off, but then again, maybe he has a Mathis-like jump his senior year.
1. Collapse the pocket without allowing the QB to escape
2. Set the edge on runs
3. Get sacks
4. Cover in flats
Our entire defense is predicated on 1-2. 3 and 4 would be great, but they are above and beyond what's fundamental.
Right now Benning goes in the category of: solid, unspectacular.
He is doing what he's supposed to do, but doesn't make any plays in the pass game (although he's made a couple in the run game). We will level up when we get guys who can do all 3, but again - the key is - our defense is designed to be containment oriented and as such, Benning is doing a good—not great—job.
I hope he can figure out how to get off blocks like the rest of all of us, but I also recognize that he's constantly trying to make sure he doesn't Ryan Bowman-it and get past his guy on the way to the QB only to completely distort the purpose of the defense and give the QB an easy running/passing lane where they have the advantage.
In the pass game I would give Benning a C and in the run game an A-. It would be nice to have Kikaha back, but for that we'd have to actually figure out how to a) identify talent and b) recruit it.
I suspect Tryon will be a beast next year.
Buck-type recruits will investigate their role, investigate how they will be potentially used in Petersen's defense.
Once they hear "seal the edge ... containment ... prevent the qb from getting outside and funnel the action through the middle and collapse the field so an opportunistic backer and secondary can take advantage ... Discipline!"
That shit doesn't appeal to croots as much as "coach pete says he'll green light me to just go out there and destroy the quarterback!"
Elite croots typically run the show on the field in high school.
Hearing the message from Washington that says "if you come to Washington you have to buy into the program and if you do what we tell you to do the overall defense will be successful and thus you will be successful."
Takes a mature, slow strategy kid to appreciate that right away.
Close or fuck off. -
Sales is always important. I agree with that.Dennis_DeYoung said:
It's sales. Close or fuck off.animate said:
Agree, I've been saying this from the beginning. Even had some doogs dismiss this concept.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I think this is the message in recruiting and is why we have trouble closing some top level DE talent. (In addition to our coach recruiting acumen at that position). A lot of top level DE's don't want to hear they are going to be playing contain football as a priority first.Dennis_DeYoung said:
People disappointed with Benning are missing the point of what he's supposed to do. He has basically four responsibilities:bananasnblondes said:Saw the dawgman lazy ass depth chart yesterday and noticed that all they did was take the current depth chart and delete the seniors and guys expected to leave.
Really hoping that some of the rs freshmen and sophomores step up. Those were the classes where the talent really started to level up.
Another year of Benning at buck makes me want to chop my dick off, but then again, maybe he has a Mathis-like jump his senior year.
1. Collapse the pocket without allowing the QB to escape
2. Set the edge on runs
3. Get sacks
4. Cover in flats
Our entire defense is predicated on 1-2. 3 and 4 would be great, but they are above and beyond what's fundamental.
Right now Benning goes in the category of: solid, unspectacular.
He is doing what he's supposed to do, but doesn't make any plays in the pass game (although he's made a couple in the run game). We will level up when we get guys who can do all 3, but again - the key is - our defense is designed to be containment oriented and as such, Benning is doing a good—not great—job.
I hope he can figure out how to get off blocks like the rest of all of us, but I also recognize that he's constantly trying to make sure he doesn't Ryan Bowman-it and get past his guy on the way to the QB only to completely distort the purpose of the defense and give the QB an easy running/passing lane where they have the advantage.
In the pass game I would give Benning a C and in the run game an A-. It would be nice to have Kikaha back, but for that we'd have to actually figure out how to a) identify talent and b) recruit it.
I suspect Tryon will be a beast next year.
Buck-type recruits will investigate their role, investigate how they will be potentially used in Petersen's defense.
Once they hear "seal the edge ... containment ... prevent the qb from getting outside and funnel the action through the middle and collapse the field so an opportunistic backer and secondary can take advantage ... Discipline!"
That shit doesn't appeal to croots as much as "coach pete says he'll green light me to just go out there and destroy the quarterback!"
Elite croots typically run the show on the field in high school.
Hearing the message from Washington that says "if you come to Washington you have to buy into the program and if you do what we tell you to do the overall defense will be successful and thus you will be successful."
Takes a mature, slow strategy kid to appreciate that right away.
Problem is in the details!
Petersen is selling quality vanilla ice cream. Croots want fucking rocky road with sprinkles and shit.
Petersen is selling honda accords but croots want an Acura nsx.
Petersen is selling Rei but croots want fucking the north face or arcteryx.
That's why Petersen appeals more to slow strategy kids who's culture can appreciate what Petersen is selling.
fast strategy kids are like "why the fuck would i drive an accord?"
You have to salespeople of the year +10 just to even the playing field and currently we're levelling up due to general Petersen success but we're not all there yet.
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dude oregon state closed on edge player better than some of our prospectsUW_Doog_Bot said:
True, but to a FS kid there's no fucking way Gregory is selling a Volvo Wagon over a Maserati. No one is without lying their ass off, which Pete would never allow.Dennis_DeYoung said:
It's sales. Close or fuck off.animate said:
Agree, I've been saying this from the beginning. Even had some doogs dismiss this concept.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I think this is the message in recruiting and is why we have trouble closing some top level DE talent. (In addition to our coach recruiting acumen at that position). A lot of top level DE's don't want to hear they are going to be playing contain football as a priority first.Dennis_DeYoung said:
People disappointed with Benning are missing the point of what he's supposed to do. He has basically four responsibilities:bananasnblondes said:Saw the dawgman lazy ass depth chart yesterday and noticed that all they did was take the current depth chart and delete the seniors and guys expected to leave.
Really hoping that some of the rs freshmen and sophomores step up. Those were the classes where the talent really started to level up.
Another year of Benning at buck makes me want to chop my dick off, but then again, maybe he has a Mathis-like jump his senior year.
1. Collapse the pocket without allowing the QB to escape
2. Set the edge on runs
3. Get sacks
4. Cover in flats
Our entire defense is predicated on 1-2. 3 and 4 would be great, but they are above and beyond what's fundamental.
Right now Benning goes in the category of: solid, unspectacular.
He is doing what he's supposed to do, but doesn't make any plays in the pass game (although he's made a couple in the run game). We will level up when we get guys who can do all 3, but again - the key is - our defense is designed to be containment oriented and as such, Benning is doing a good—not great—job.
I hope he can figure out how to get off blocks like the rest of all of us, but I also recognize that he's constantly trying to make sure he doesn't Ryan Bowman-it and get past his guy on the way to the QB only to completely distort the purpose of the defense and give the QB an easy running/passing lane where they have the advantage.
In the pass game I would give Benning a C and in the run game an A-. It would be nice to have Kikaha back, but for that we'd have to actually figure out how to a) identify talent and b) recruit it.
I suspect Tryon will be a beast next year.
Buck-type recruits will investigate their role, investigate how they will be potentially used in Petersen's defense.
Once they hear "seal the edge ... containment ... prevent the qb from getting outside and funnel the action through the middle and collapse the field so an opportunistic backer and secondary can take advantage ... Discipline!"
That shit doesn't appeal to croots as much as "coach pete says he'll green light me to just go out there and destroy the quarterback!"
Elite croots typically run the show on the field in high school.
Hearing the message from Washington that says "if you come to Washington you have to buy into the program and if you do what we tell you to do the overall defense will be successful and thus you will be successful."
Takes a mature, slow strategy kid to appreciate that right away.
