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#kanye at the white house
RaceBannon
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Whole lot of folks telling him he is on the wrong team @creepycoug
It almost looks like they think skin color should select your political views.
But we know better
It almost looks like they think skin color should select your political views.
But we know better
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The Left cares nothing about race or gender except as a weapon to attack their foes.
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Blacks who go R are regarded as house n____rs to many blacks and white SJW fags
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Hey that must be RACIST!!!!!!!!RaceBannon said:Whole lot of folks telling him he is on the wrong team @creepycoug
It almost looks like they think skin color should select your political views.
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And this is unique to the left you think?Dude61 said:The Left cares nothing about race or gender except as a weapon to attack their foes.
Everybody uses everybody in politics.
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I thought so too but you showed me the error of my ways
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Maybe so.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Blacks who go R are regarded as house n____rs to many blacks and white SJW fags
But does that mean those blacks are racist?
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I'm having fun on twitter because Chelsea Handler decided National Coming Out Day was a good time to call Linzy Graham a faggot. She was getting roasted by the LGBTQ community but my liberal tweet buddies say its cool because Graham is conservativecreepycoug said:
And this is unique to the left you think?Dude61 said:The Left cares nothing about race or gender except as a weapon to attack their foes.
Everybody uses everybody in politics.
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So, is that a bad word?RaceBannon said:
I'm having fun on twitter because Chelsea Handler decided National Coming Out Day was a good time to call Linzy Graham a faggot. She was getting roasted by the LGBTQ community but my liberal tweet buddies say its cool because Graham is conservativecreepycoug said:
And this is unique to the left you think?Dude61 said:The Left cares nothing about race or gender except as a weapon to attack their foes.
Everybody uses everybody in politics.
Welcome.
Honestly, I didn't know that. I wish someone would have told me.
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At least by Webster's definition, and the classical concept of RAYSISM.RaceBannon said:I thought so too but you showed me the error of my ways
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Racism is judging someone or assigning characteristics to someone based solely on their race
I haven't changed or moved
I'm a content of their character guy myself but I was raised in the 60's
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No, no. That's just the way they let them know they are simply on the wrong team. Just ask Coug.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Blacks who go R are regarded as house n____rs to many blacks and white SJW fags
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racism noun
rac·ism | \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi- \
Definition of racism
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles
b : a political or social system founded on racism
3 : racial prejudice or discrimination
Bob has really hung his hat on the pejorative use of Uncle Tom.
If you concede that Uncle Tom is now a racist term because of how it's used or intended to be used, what do you say if Black Person A tells Black Person B that his politics are fucked up because white establishment republicans don't have black people's best interests at heart? Is that racism? Or is A being political?
Similarly, was Kanye being racist when he said George Bush doesn't care about black people? Or was he being political?
Right or wrong in their assertion, Black Person A and Kanye are being political, not racist.
I think my friends like to use this racism shit when it's convenient for the - say, to support black conservatives - and tend to rail against it when it's not - say, to explain why black people tend to have worse outcomes with the police than white people.
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Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep -
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all. -
Its more the white folks getting outraged that is racist. If the brothers want to disagree among themselves over support of Trump I can respect that more
Little shitwads like hondo get no slack -
I actually wrote that reply without seeing creep's post above but it fits
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I'm not going to pretend that there isn't a speckle of truth to what you're saying. That is, I'm not going to be disingenuous (like bob) and pretend I don't know what you're getting at. I do. The idea, loosely described, is that telling a black guy, a pacific islander, a latino, a gay person or any member of an historically marginalized group that their politics are limited is, in a way, denying them the freedoms that the non-marginalized groups enjoy. I get it.RaceBannon said:Its more the white folks getting outraged that is racist. If the brothers want to disagree among themselves over support of Trump I can respect that more
Little shitwads like hondo get no slack
My main point in splitting the hairs is that people use racism to explain too much shit. I stick with the classical conception of it: you can't design bridges because you're not smart enough, and I know this because you're black.
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Ye is clearly a threat to the Democrats control of the black population. What is unique to the left is the level of hysteria we have witnessed over the last two years.creepycoug said:
And this is unique to the left you think?Dude61 said:The Left cares nothing about race or gender except as a weapon to attack their foes.
Everybody uses everybody in politics.
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I told you last week we almost agree on thiscreepycoug said:
I'm not going to pretend that there isn't a speckle of truth to what you're saying. That is, I'm not going to be disingenuous (like bob) and pretend I don't know what you're getting at. I do. The idea, loosely described, is that telling a black guy, a pacific islander, a latino, a gay person any historically marginalized group that their politics are limited is, in a way, denying them the freedoms that the non-marginalized groups enjoy. I get it.RaceBannon said:Its more the white folks getting outraged that is racist. If the brothers want to disagree among themselves over support of Trump I can respect that more
Little shitwads like hondo get no slack
My main point in splitting the hairs is that people use racism to explain too much shit. I stick with the classical conception of it: you can't design bridges because you're not smart enough, and I know this because you're black.
I also agree to an extend that white liberals telling black people how to vote are, at the very least, over-stepping some boundaries.
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If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
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No more invested than you are at dodging the very same point. Don't bring that shit. A conservative could take a shit on your mom's head and a democrat could come help her clean it up, and you'd find a way to blame the Rats.SFGbob said:
If they "take them to task for it" because they believe that to be an authentic and "real" black person you have to vote for Rats, then yes it is racist and you're heavily invested in dodging that point Coug.creepycoug said:
This is the genesis of your confusion.RaceBannon said:Are Trump policies helping Blacks along with everyone else? Are Black economic indicators at historic highs since Trump took office?
Why shouldn't a Black man vote for Trump? Tell us creep
You assume I'm being political. I'm not. I'm telling you that it's not racist. It could wrong, stupid, mis-informed, right, thoughtful, spot-on, etc. etc.
Black people can vote for Trump. IDRGAF. But if another person takes them to task for it, they're not being racist.
TI just took Kanye to task for it in an interview. They argued about it in-person. TI was not being racist ... at ... all.
As for the substance of your post, I simply cannot find another way to explain it to you. You think I'm being political, but what I'm doing, instead, is as Race put it, being semantical.
I acknowledged that I get where you guys are going with this, which leads us to the very original point in the other thread: people use terms and categorical claims for their own benefit all the time. Conservatives hate, HATE, the over-use of the concept of racism to explain everything. I just find it a bit ironical that they use it to defend Allen West when a black guy tells West he's a fuck up.
Political? Yes. Racist? No. TI wasn't being racist with Kanye; and Kanye wasn't being racist with Bush. -
Despite your whitewashing of how the term "Uncle Tom" and "Sellout" and "Oreo" as really just a benign way of saying, "hey, I think you're on the wrong team" the reality is that's not the way any of those insults are used today, especially when they're used by white liberals.
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Why are you so fixated on that point?SFGbob said:Despite your whitewashing of how the term "Uncle Tom" and "Sellout" and "Oreo" as really just a benign way of saying, "hey, I think you're on the wrong team" the reality is that's not the way any of those insults are used today, especially when they're used by white liberals.
Without entirely agreeing with you on it, I've stipulated it because I don't need it.
My point stands w/o having to rationalize those terms.
At this point, you're squeezing blood out of a turnip.
Bottom line is that if you call me a racist for saying Allen West is a dumb fuck for being a staunch right winger, I'm going to tell you to fuck off. If I were black, I'd laff at you and then tell you fuck off.
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No. That’s what you said. Block worthy stuff.RaceBannon said:
I'm having fun on twitter because Chelsea Handler decided National Coming Out Day was a good time to call Linzy Graham a faggot. She was getting roasted by the LGBTQ community but my liberal tweet buddies say its cool because Graham is conservativecreepycoug said:
And this is unique to the left you think?Dude61 said:The Left cares nothing about race or gender except as a weapon to attack their foes.
Everybody uses everybody in politics.
Welcome.
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I am hearing Kanye is a FACIST!!!!1!
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FTFYCuntWaffle said:I am hearing Kanye is a bi-polar!!!!1!
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I'm hearing he's a moron. And I said that way b4 his infatuation with Trump. And before he told the country that GW doesn't care about black people.CuntWaffle said:I am hearing Kanye is a FACIST!!!!1!
The guy seems like a giant tool.
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I too think Kanye is a dickface.creepycoug said:
I'm hearing he's a moron. And I said that way b4 his infatuation with Trump. And before he told the country that GW doesn't care about black people.CuntWaffle said:I am hearing Kanye is a FACIST!!!!1!
The guy seems like a giant tool.
No, I'm not racist.
We stand in solidarity.
It's a start.
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I have all the screen shots I need TommyThomasFremont said:
No. That’s what you said. Block worthy stuff.RaceBannon said:
I'm having fun on twitter because Chelsea Handler decided National Coming Out Day was a good time to call Linzy Graham a faggot. She was getting roasted by the LGBTQ community but my liberal tweet buddies say its cool because Graham is conservativecreepycoug said:
And this is unique to the left you think?Dude61 said:The Left cares nothing about race or gender except as a weapon to attack their foes.
Everybody uses everybody in politics.
Welcome.
It's not what I said
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Fuck that strawman's ass Coug. No one is calling you racist simply for calling a black conservative stupid. I love how you keep fucking this chicken all while avoiding what I'm actually saying. For such a "smart" guy you sure argue like a dishonest dumbfuck.creepycoug said:
Why are you so fixated on that point?SFGbob said:Despite your whitewashing of how the term "Uncle Tom" and "Sellout" and "Oreo" as really just a benign way of saying, "hey, I think you're on the wrong team" the reality is that's not the way any of those insults are used today, especially when they're used by white liberals.
Without entirely agreeing with you on it, I've stipulated it because I don't need it.
My point stands w/o having to rationalize those terms.
At this point, you're squeezing blood out of a turnip.
Bottom line is that if you call me a racist for saying Allen West is a dumb fuck for being a staunch right winger, I'm going to tell you to fuck off. If I were black, I'd laff at you and then tell you fuck off.
Nothing more to add on this point; it's beaten to death.
